CHR/Pop Chart July 23, 2004

[Love Plastic Love]

She jumped 11-5 on Billboard this week didnt she?
Her sales have not been explosive but they have not been embarassing either-its not like she is pulling a Pink on us. I would hope that her sales are not hurting her radio success.

Dont Tell Me is still top 30-maybe that is hurting My Happy Ending a tad.

[The Music Man]

Anyone got a recurrent schedule?

[Cerebro]

TheMusicMan said:

Anyone got a recurrent schedule?

Recurrent on 7/23:
3 Doors Down (?) (7/16 was week 21, but it has lost it's bullet now, so maybe...)

Recurrent on 7/30:
Blink-182; Avril Lavigne "Don't Tell Me"

Recurrent on 8/6:
D12 "My Band"; OutKast

Recurrent on 8/13:
Beyonce'

Recurrent on 8/20:
Yellowcard; Mario Winans

Recurrent Whenever They Fall Below #20 (weeks on as of 7/23):
Maroon5 "This Love" (26); Usher "Yeah!" (26); Switchfoot (28); Usher "Burn" (17); Hoobastank (21)

[The Music Man]

The only thing that may block Christina Milian from #1 is...JoJo?!?! Oy...I still think Dip It Low has a chance to go all the way though. I'll be pulling for it.

Get ready for a huge Top 20 and Top 30 turnover over the next few weeks. The entire Top 20 is unbulleted minus Los Lonely Boys and Alicia Keys...the Top 30 is entirely bulleted except Avril (DTM) which will be gone soon. I think the Top 10 is looking awesome (except Ashlee).

What the hell...Trapt and Nickelback are on the verge of losing their bullets!

Nelly goes from zero spins to 888 in less than a week with My Place! A debut in the Top 40 is certain this week.

[Ragin]

TheMusicMan said:

The only thing that may block
What the hell...Trapt and Nickelback are on the verge of losing their bullets!

Well they are both good songs, but my theory is that many PDs were deciding which one they wanted to play as the rock hit of the summer, when all of a sudden Finger Eleven gains momentum, and they decide NEITHER, Finger Eleven's song is the one.

We'll see.

[Mega248]

Ragin said:

Well they are both good songs, but my theory is that many PDs were deciding which one they wanted to play as the rock hit of the summer, when all of a sudden Finger Eleven gains momentum, and they decide NEITHER, Finger Eleven's song is the one.

We'll see.

I don't blame them if that's what they're doing, though I'm surprised they're choosing to play a song by a new group(to pop that is) over "How You Remind Me Part 5".

[Ragin]

Mega248 said:

I don't blame them if that's what they're doing, though I'm surprised they're choosing to play a song by a new group(to pop that is) over "How You Remind Me Part 5".

Maybe they are FINALLY sick of it?

Personally I really like Feeling Way Too Damn Good, and don't consider it at all similar to HYRM, but I can understand how people lump it when they don't like it.

[jaxxalude]

Ragin said:

Maybe they are FINALLY sick of it?

Personally I really like Feeling Way Too Damn Good, and don't consider it at all similar to HYRM, but I can understand how people lump it when they don't like it.

Come on! Those songs are so similar, they could've put a lawsuit on themselves! There's even a website that puts both "How You Remind Me" and "Someday" playing at the same time, so we can tell how similar they are:

www.thewebshite.co.uk/nickelback.htm

If, after this, you still think they are not recycling the same trite s**t over and over... well, more power to you! ???

[mst3k]

jaxxalude said:

http://www.thewebs**te.co.uk/nickelback.htm

LOL... the url got censored.

[HER MINAJesty]

Nelly is #41 and the Greatest Gainer at +888 :o

Wow this song is just blowing the f*ck UP!

It will definitely be an instant impact and debut inside the Top 40, wow!  :o

It might be payola to ensure Nelly finally gets a hit after the flops that were "Iz U" and "Flap", but Flap never got an adds date so I guess it could never be considered a radio flop.

Every song is payola'd these days I think, to some extent, so it's all the same.

I'm so happy, I love this song and Im happy Nelly has another hit on his hands.

It should debut at #38 but could go as high as #35 before the final update on Sunday.

[chebingeo]

TheMusicMan said:

What the hell...Trapt and Nickelback are on the verge of losing their bullets!

Good

TheMusicMan said:

Nelly goes from zero spins to 888 in less than a week with My Place!  A debut in the Top 40 is certain this week.

Not as good

[jaxxalude]

mst3k said:

LOL... the url got censored. 

Well, you certainly know the letters. So, what do you think? They should sue themselves and get extra cheese?

[JayBoozer]

Wow Avril made a sudden turnaround. It really looked like her bullet would decline, but the update this morning shows that her bullet climbed just above +400 from +344.

She also gained more than 100 spins as well as 1.2 million in audience in only one update :o.

[rayato2k4]

Song I'm rooting 4, is Rasmus "In the Shadows". funny enough, the song didn't do well in Alternative, so it will be a surprise hit on POP. The song kicks ass! Plus, love the name.....RASMUS!!!

[j]

EvanEscence0 said:

Wow Avril made a sudden turnaround. It really looked like her bullet would decline, but the update this morning shows that her bullet climbed just above +400 from +344.

She also gained more than 100 spins as well as 1.2 million in audience in only one update  :o.

That's not a turnaround. Some days you gain more, others you lose some, k?

[JayBoozer]

numb said:

That's not a turnaround. Some days you gain more, others you lose some, k?

Actually she hasn't lost any spins any day, she's been gaining every day. I was just saying that because for the past week or so she's been going on a downward trend, and now she's going up. That's a turnaround. And don't talk to me like a child, KTHXBYE.

[j]

EvanEscence0 said:

Actually she hasn't lost any spins any day, she's been gaining every day. I was just saying that because for the past week or so she's been going on a downward trend, and now she's going up. That's a turnaround. And don't talk to me like a child, KTHXBYE.

I never said she lost spins. When I said "lose," I was referring to her spin gain a.k.a. bullet, not spin total. I love the song too and have been watching it everyday, but I don't see the need to trumpet every little increase in spin trend to the world.

[Mega248]

The #50 song has 483 spins right now. Looking back at past charts, the last time it was this low was November 9, 2001, when the #50 song had 474 spins. (Though keep in mind that that 25/-3 recurrent rule was in effect then, so naturally the spin totals at the bottom of the chart were lower than they otherwise would have been.)

[Matt4319]

And if "Away From the Sun" goes recurrent, #50 will have 476 spins.

[singingsparrow]

Los Lonely Boys may be falling just short of the Top 10, unless they can accelerate their spins! :( (Actually, they may be at #11 next week with the closest bullet below them on the chart still a ways away

Still, a #12 peak is extremely handsome and honorable, considering they're a Triple A band! :)

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

[Cerebro]

Wow!  Mediabase did a massive "gold purge".  As of the 5:34 PM update, the following songs were moved from recurrent to gold status (some of these are 4 years old!):

NELLY  Ride Wit Me
MARY J. BLIGE  Family Affair
JOHN MAYER  Your Body Is A Wonde...
FAT JOE  What's Luv (f/Ashant...
NO DOUBT  Hella Good
NO DOUBT  Underneath It All
EVE  Let Me Blow Ya Mind
CALLING  Wherever You Will Go
MICHELLE BRANCH  All You Wanted
JOHN MAYER  No Such Thing
PINK  Just Like A Pill
PINK  Get The Party Starte...
NO DOUBT  Hey Baby
NELLY  Country Grammar (Hot...
KID ROCK  Picture
ASHANTI  Foolish
KYLIE MINOGUE  Can't Get You Out Of...
OUTKAST  Ms. Jackson
PINK  Don't Let Me Get Me
SHAGGY  Angel
JAGGED EDGE  Let's Get Married
JA RULE  Always On Time
TRAIN  Drops Of Jupiter
JENNIFER LOPEZ  I'm Real
BLU CANTRELL  Hit'Em Up Style (Oop...
AALIYAH  Try Again
JAGGED EDGE/NELLY  Where The Party At?
JENNIFER LOPEZ  Ain't It Funny
MICHELLE BRANCH  Everywhere
SHAGGY  It Wasn't Me
K-CI & JOJO  Crazy
LENNY KRAVITZ  Again
LUDACRIS  What's Your Fantasy
JA RULE  Livin' It Up
P. DIDDY & THE BAD..  I Need A Girl pt.1
ALICIA KEYS  Fallin'
112  Dance With Me
UNCLE KRACKER  Follow Me
CITY HIGH  What Would You Do
AGUILERA,LKM,MYA,PNK  Lady Marmalade
DARUDE  Sandstorm
NELLY FURTADO  I'm Like A Bird
LEANN RIMES  Can't Fight The Moon...
PINK  Most Girls
MADONNA  Music
TOYA  I Do
USHER  U Got It Bad
DAVE MATTHEWS BAND  The Space Between
NELLY  E.I.
CRAIG DAVID  7 Days
112  Peaches and Cream
LUDACRIS  Roll Out (My Busines...
MISSY ELLIOTT  Get Ur Freak On
PINK  There You Go
CRAIG DAVID  Fill Me In
MYA  Case Of the Ex
NELLY FURTADO  Turn Off The Light
SHAKIRA  Whenever, Wherever
'N SYNC  Girlfriend
DIDO  Thankyou
JENNIFER LOPEZ  Love Don't Cost A Th...
JENNIFER LOPEZ  I'm Gonna Be Alright
DESTINY'S CHILD  Independent Women
BRITNEY SPEARS  Overprotected
JA RULE  Put It On Me
MISSY ELLIOTT  One Minute Man
NINE DAYS  Absolutely (Story Of...
BRITNEY SPEARS  I'm A Slave 4 U
SUGAR RAY  When It's Over
DJ ENCORE  I See Right Through ...
DAFT PUNK  One More Time
JANET  Someone To Call My L...
JANET  All For You
'N SYNC  Gone
PINK  Family Portrait
SHAKIRA  Underneath Your Clot...
USHER  U Remind Me
EVE 6  Here's To The Night
MADONNA  Don't Tell Me
JENNIFER LOPEZ  Play
SOULDECISION  Faded
DESTINY'S CHILD  Survivor
JEWEL  Standing Still
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS  Hero
SMASH MOUTH  I'm A Believer
DESTINY'S CHILD  Emotion
CORRS  Breathless
GINUWINE  Differences
JASON MRAZ  You And I Both
ATC  Around The World (La...
HOOBASTANK  Running Away
FABOLOUS  Young'n
NELLY  #1
FIVE FOR FIGHTING  Superman (It's Not E...
JAY-Z  I Just Wanna Love U ...
FAITH HILL  The Way You Love Me
LUDACRIS  Move Bitch
JAY-Z  Izzo (H.O.V.A.)
EVAN & JARON  Crazy For This Girl
O-TOWN  All Or Nothing
EMINEM  Stan
DESTINY'S CHILD  Bootylicious
JESSICA SIMPSON  Irresistible
SAVAGE GARDEN  I Knew I Loved You
ALANIS MORISSETTE  Hands Clean
JOE  Stutter
LFO  Every Other Time
JA RULE  Between Me & You
'N SYNC  This I Promise You
BARENAKED LADIES  Pinch Me
FABOLOUS/NATE DOGG  Ya'll Can't Deny It
GIGI D'AGOSTINO  I'll Fly With You
EVE  Who's That Girl
TRICK DADDY  Take It To Da House
JOHN MAYER  Why Georgia
MYSTIKAL  Shake Ya Ass
S CLUB  Never Had A Dream Co...
MATCHBOX TWENTY  Mad Season
ZOMBIE NATION  Kernkraft 400
PINK  You Make Me Sick
VERTICAL HORIZON  You're A God
WILLA FORD  I Wanna Be Bad
OUTKAST  The Whole World
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS  Escape
DREAM  He Loves U Not
BBMAK  Back Here
LEE ANN WOMACK  I Hope You Dance
TONI BRAXTON  He Wasn't Man Enough...
JERMAINE DUPRI  Welcome To Atlanta
USHER  U Don't Have To Call
ENYA  Only Time
'N SYNC  It's Gonna Be Me
DAVE MATTHEWS BAND  Everyday
SAMANTHA MUMBA  Gotta Tell You
CHRISTINA AGUILERA  I Turn To You
'N SYNC  Bye Bye Bye
KHIA  Lick My Neck My Back
MADISON AVENUE  Don't Call Me Baby
311  Amber
BAHA MEN  Who Let The Dogs Out
WYCLEF JEAN  Perfect Gentleman
IIO  Rapture
DJ X  Use Your Love
MR. CHEEKS  Lights, Camera, Acti...
DIDO  Here With Me
WEEZER  Island In The Sun
B2K  Uh Huh
EMINEM  The Way I Am
ASTROLINE  Close My Eyes
INCUBUS  I Wish You Were Here
TRAPT  Still Frame
CITY HIGH  Caramel
QB FINEST  Oochie Wally
DA ENTOURAGE  Bunny Hop
LUDACRIS  Southern Hospitality
BUSTA RHYMES  Pass The Courvoisier
INDIA.ARIE  Video
FAT JOE  We Thuggin'
WISEGUYS  Start The Commotion
BON JOVI  Thank You For Loving...
RUFF ENDZ  No More
LENNY KRAVITZ  Dig In
MODJO  Lady
MANDY MOORE  I Wanna Be With You
BARENAKED LADIES  If I Had $1,000,000
KANDI  Don't Think I'm Not
CHRISTINA MILIAN  AM To PM
DJ KOOL/FATMAN SCOOP  It Takes Two
COLDPLAY  Trouble
LONESTAR  I'm Already There
COURSE OF NATURE  Caught In The Sun
DARUDE  Feel The Beat
JACK JOHNSON  Flake
NO DOUBT  Ex-Girlfriend
D12  Purple Hills
NEXT  Wifey
EVERCLEAR  AM Radio
FRAGMA  Toca's Miracle
LIL' KIM  How Many Licks
CELINE DION  God Bless America
DEBELAH MORGAN  Dance With Me
LEANN RIMES  I Need You
MYA  Free
ATB  Let U Go
TANTO METRO/DEVONTE  Give It to Her
NO DOUBT  Bathwater
SONIQUE  Sky
FAITH HILL  There You'll Be
LIFEHOUSE  Breathing
NELLY  Batter Up
SHAKIRA  Objection
VOODOO AND SERANO  Blood Is Pumping
CELINE DION  That's The Way It Is
PETEY deleted  Raise Up
DA BRAT  What Chu Like
R. KELLY  Fiesta
SOCA BOYS  Follow The Leader
HAMPTON  Hampsterdance 2
LAUT SPRECHER  Omnibus
FAITH EVANS  Back To Love
YING YANG TWINS  Whistle While You Tw...
TRINA  Pull Over
MANDY MOORE  Candy
BRITNEY SPEARS  Boys
BETTER THAN EZRA  Extra Ordinary
MELLOW TRAX  Outaspace
PLUMMET  Damaged
TAMIA  Stranger In My House
BRITNEY SPEARS  Oops...I Did It Agai...
MARC ANTHONY  You Sang To Me
JANET  Doesn't Really Matte...
NO DOUBT  Running
TREVOR & SIMON  Put Your Hands Up In...
BASEMENT JAXX  Where's Your Head At
FINCH  What It Is To Burn
FAITH HILL  The Star Spangled Ba...
504 BOYZ  Wobble, Wobble
BIG TYMERS  Get Your Roll On
LUDACRIS  Saturday (Oooh! Oooh...
BIG TYMERS  #1 Stunna
'N SYNC  Pop
BUBBA SPARXXX  Ugly
DREAM  This Is Me
DJ SPILLER  Groove Jet (If This ...
MARY MARY  Shackles (Praise You...
CHOPPA  Choppa Style
AFRO MEDUSA  Pasilda
JAGGED EDGE  Promise
DA BUZZ  Let Me Love You
LUDACRIS  Area Codes
98 DEGREES  Give Me Just One Nig...
MASTER P  Ooohhhwee
BLACK EYED PEAS  Request Line
KANE & ABEL  Show Dat Work (Shake...
UNDERDOG PROJECT  Summer Jam
DEE DEE  Forever
ASHLEY BALLARD  Hottie
DARREN HAYES  Insatiable
WEST LIFE  Swear It Again
DIANA FOX  Running On Empty
BUSTA RHYMES  Break Ya Neck
BACKSTREET BOYS  Shape Of My Heart
CASE  Missing You
LOUCHIE LOU/MICHIE 1  10 Out Of 10
MANDY MOORE  Crush
SISTER HAZEL  Champagne High
DERB  Derb
AMBER  Yes
SISTER HAZEL  Change Your Mind
JIMMY EAT WORLD  Sweetness

[Cerebro]

SingingSparrow said:

Los Lonely Boys may be falling just short of the Top 10, unless they can accelerate their spins! :( (Actually, they may be at #11 next week with the closest bullet below them on the chart still a ways away

Still, a #12 peak is extremely handsome and honorable, considering they're a Triple A band! :)

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

And they seem to have jumped five spots (17-12) without a bullet. That's a trick you don't see very often.

[JCMF3]

SingingSparrow said:

Still, a #12 peak is extremely handsome and honorable, considering they're a Triple A band! :)

I don't quite see how Los Lonely Boys are a "Triple A" band. I mean, they had one hit over on that chart. Do we call Matchbox 20 or Train or Counting Crows a "Triple A" band because they do well on that chart?

[Hervard]

Mega248 said:

The #50 song has 483 spins right now. Looking back at past charts, the last time it was this low was November 9, 2001, when the #50 song had 474 spins. (Though keep in mind that that 25/-3 recurrent rule was in effect then, so naturally the spin totals at the bottom of the chart were lower than they otherwise would have been.)

Actually, the 25/-3 recurrent rule had been done away with at that point. I believe the last chart with that rule was either November 2 or October 26, though I think the latter was the last chart with 25/-3. I remember because I made up charts for the three month period in which that rule was in place, using the 20/20 rule. And by around the time that rule was brought back, all songs that had been on for 20 weeks had left the chart, even songs that had fallen off via the 25/-3 rule. November 2 was the last chart I did. But, yeah, the fact that the 25/-3 rule was in place for those three months most likely contributed to that low spin total.

[Dan G.]

The final update is up... and 3 Doors Down still hasn't been moved to recurrent. 

Two Top 40 Debuts:
Nelly Featuring Jaheim - My Place (#34)
Lloyd Banks - On Fire (#35)

Two Top 50 Debuts:
Nelly Featuring Jaheim - My Place (#34)
Britney Spears - Outrageous (#46)

Top Five Greatest Gainers:
Nelly Featuring Jaheim - My Place (+1021)
Juvenile Featuring Soulja Slim - Slow Motion (+618)
Ashlee Simpson - Pieces Of Me (+566)
Maroon5 - She Will Be Loved (+525)
Kevin Lyttle Featuring Spragga Benz - Turn Me On (+509)

Top Five New & Active:
Ying Yang Twins - What's Happenin! (#54)
The Rasmus - In The Shadows (#55)
Lloyd Featuring Ashanti - Southside (#57)
Angel - Just The Way I Am (#59)
Brooke Hogan - Everything To Me (#60)

--DanG

[chebingeo]

Also, Blink 182 re-enters the top 40.

[j]

DanG82 said:

The final update is up... and 3 Doors Down still hasn't been moved to recurrent.  

They regained their bullet this morning.

[JCMF3]

numb said:

They regained their bullet this morning.

True, but on the final update I think they were bulletless. But it looks like this is pulling a FoW on the Hot AC chart.

[Ragin]

JCMF3 said:

True, but on the final update I think they were bulletless.  But it looks like this is pulling a FoW on the Hot AC chart.

FoW?

[Mega248]

Ragin said:

FoW?

Fountains of Wayne. Just as "Stacy's Mom" was approaching 20 weeks, it regained it's bullet for a few and reached a new peak. I think it was kept on the chart for 23 weeks or something.