Billboard chart trivia

[imbondz]

What is Canada's longest running #1 song?

[Future Captain]

^I Gotta Feeling - Black Eyed Peas 16 weeks.

In addition, it also has the longest run in Canadian Hot 100 history, with 76 weeks run. Which mean, it's probably the biggest hit ever in Canadian Hot 100 history.

[badrobot]

^That's actually since 2007.

Elton John's "Candle in the Wind 1997" spent 46 weeks at #1 in Canada and 3 years in the top 20. But, that's largely because the Canada singles market was basically dead at the time and unlike the US, they didn't incorporate airplay.

[onebuffalo]

Dec 26, 2014 22:15:53 GMT -5 imbondz said:

What is Canada's longest running #1 song?

Anyone have the country version of this answer? Thanks!

[Deleted]

Dec 27, 2014 15:03:47 GMT -5 badrobot said:

^That's actually since 2007.

Elton John's "Candle in the Wind 1997" spent 46 weeks at #1 in Canada and 3 years in the top 20. But, that's largely because the Canada singles market was basically dead at the time and unlike the US, they didn't incorporate airplay.

Where do you get the info for pre-June-2007 Canadian charts?

[badrobot]

^I don't know the best resource. I just knew Candle in the Wind had a crazy run: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candle_in_the_Wind_1997

[Gary]

It was all sales based too, I believe.

[imbondz]

Dec 27, 2014 15:03:47 GMT -5 badrobot said:

^That's actually since 2007.

Elton John's "Candle in the Wind 1997" spent 46 weeks at #1 in Canada and 3 years in the top 20. But, that's largely because the Canada singles market was basically dead at the time and unlike the US, they didn't incorporate airplay.

Ugh. That's crazy. Kinda awkward chart wise.

[brady47]

Dec 28, 2014 6:24:07 GMT -5 imbondz said:

Dec 27, 2014 15:03:47 GMT -5 badrobot said:

^That's actually since 2007.

Elton John's "Candle in the Wind 1997" spent 46 weeks at #1 in Canada and 3 years in the top 20. But, that's largely because the Canada singles market was basically dead at the time and unlike the US, they didn't incorporate airplay.

Ugh. That's crazy. Kinda awkward chart wise.

Canada didn't have a legitimate singles chart before 2007. I mean a single can sell a couple hundred copies and be number one on the single charts for weeks.

The Canadian Hot 100 was refreshing and I loved finally having a way to see the musical tastes of people in my country and not having to solely follow the Hot 100.

There are small differences between Canadians and Americans in musical taste that I wouldn't be able to appreciate or know about without the Canadian Hot 100.

[Gary]

Exactly, kind of taints the 46 weeks number a bit.

[DJ General]

Anyone have a full list of all albums to ever sell over 500,000 units in a week, not just opening week?

[crystalphnx]

not sure if this is the right place, but here goes: does anyone know the first album to get a re-release in the vein of The Emancipation Of Mimi: Ultra Platinum Edition, Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded, Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection, etc., where a few brand-new tracks are tacked onto a recently-released album to extend its promotional cycle and pad overall sales?

typically, one of these new tracks is released as a single and the album receives a slight name change (like the examples I mentioned.) I wouldn't count re-issues of "classic" albums that come out years or decades after the album's initial run, or production errors when a track is mistakenly left off and the album is re-run to include a track that was always meant to be a part of the original tracklist.

hope this makes sense! apologies if it belongs elsewhere.

[areyoureadytojump]

^Mary J Blige's No More Drama?

[renfield75]

Jan 27, 2015 15:17:19 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

^Mary J Blige's No More Drama?

That's the earliest one I can think of…2 years later (2004) Usher's "Confessions" got the same treatment and sent "My Boo" to number one. Prior to these type of re-releases most artists just did separate remix albums, like J. Lo's 2002 remix record. But that practice goes back as far as Paula Abdul ("Shut Up And Dance" in 1990), Bobby Brown ("Remixes In The Key of B" in 1993), and Madonna ("You Can Dance" in 1987). I don't know for sure that Madonna's record was the first but I don't know of any before her.

In the days of physical singles, artists would remix album cuts for single release to extend eras: for example, the version of George Michael's "Monkey" that topped the Hot 100 was not the same version that originally appeared on Faith. There were quite a few singles back then that were different from their album-cut counterparts. That practice also helped eventually sell greatest hits albums, since those compilations were the only way to get the hit version of songs you remembered after the physical singles had long-since vacated stores.

[areyoureadytojump]

^Those remix albums are in a whole different category.

[renfield75]

Jan 27, 2015 16:05:33 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

^Those remix albums are in a while different category.

Yes of course, but it was still the precursor to the idea of getting new singles and remixes out in-between album cycles. Madonna could've just re-released "True Blue" with some remixes and included "Spotlight" (the new song on You Can Dance) but people weren't doing that back then.

[jerz]

Who are the Asians that appeared on Billboard Hot 100 (including both Top 40 and bottom Top 40)?

Is PSY, Kyu Sakamoto and The Far East Movement are on the list?

[rimetm]

Nobody / Wonder Girls debuted at #76, being the first K-Pop song to make the chart.

[jerz]

Aside from Wonder Girls, who are the Asians that appeared on Billboard Hot 100 (including both Top 40 and bottom Top 40)? PSY?

[WotUNeed]

Mar 5, 2015 20:24:17 GMT -5 jerz said:

Aside from Wonder Girls, who are the Asians that appeared on Billboard Hot 100 (including both Top 40 and bottom Top 40)? PSY?

Psy, Wonder Girls, and Kyu Sakamoto have all charted.

Far East Movement are American-born, but they have also charted, if you're counting acts of Asian descent.
Along those same lines, British-born Jay Sean has also charted.

[rimetm]

If we're counting UK Asian Underground artists, Panjabi MC hit #33 with Beware of the Boys (Mudian to Bach Ke)

[suth]

Pink Lady got to #37 with "Kiss in the Dark".

[jenglisbe]

Dec 29, 2014 0:28:46 GMT -5 Gary said:

Exactly, kind of taints the 46 weeks number a bit.

Sure, but saying a song is longest-running #1 in Canada but only talking about 7-8 years of charts is even more tainted.

[Gary]

Mar 6, 2015 10:26:45 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 29, 2014 0:28:46 GMT -5 Gary said:

Exactly, kind of taints the 46 weeks number a bit.

Sure, but saying a song is longest-running #1 in Canada but only talking about 7-8 years of charts is even more tainted.

LOL - Had to take a second to figure out what we were talking about.  The #1 song in Canada probably gets about the same sales numbers as the #1 song in the USA(in some weeks).   (Keep in mind, during this era, there is no digital songs and the movement towards restricting physical singles was in full swing)

So if a song sells 500 copies in a week, regardless of radio play and album sales(I say album sales because sometimes people buy the album because the song is on it), would you really say that was the #1 song in the country?

[jenglisbe]

Mar 6, 2015 10:48:05 GMT -5 Gary said:

Mar 6, 2015 10:26:45 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Sure, but saying a song is longest-running #1 in Canada but only talking about 7-8 years of charts is even more tainted.

LOL - Had to take a second to figure out what we were talking about.  The #1 song in Canada probably gets about the same sales numbers as the #1 song in the USA(in some weeks).   (Keep in mind, during this era, there is no digital songs and the movement towards restricting physical singles was in full swing)

So if a song sells 500 copies in a week, regardless of radio play and album sales(I say album sales because sometimes people buy the album because the song is on it), would you really say that was the #1 song in the country?

I think you missed my point. The initial question was, "What's the longest running #1 in Canada?" Someone replied with a stat based on the charts since 2007. I am saying if I ask about longest-running #1 ever in a country, and I get a response based on information from only the past 7 years I would feel misled.

[Gary]

Mar 6, 2015 11:31:32 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Mar 6, 2015 10:48:05 GMT -5 Gary said:

LOL - Had to take a second to figure out what we were talking about.  The #1 song in Canada probably gets about the same sales numbers as the #1 song in the USA(in some weeks).   (Keep in mind, during this era, there is no digital songs and the movement towards restricting physical singles was in full swing)

So if a song sells 500 copies in a week, regardless of radio play and album sales(I say album sales because sometimes people buy the album because the song is on it), would you really say that was the #1 song in the country?

I think you missed my point. The initial question was, "What's the longest running #1 in Canada?" Someone replied with a stat based on the charts since 2007. I am saying if I ask about longest-running #1 ever in a country, and I get a response based on information from only the past 7 years I would feel misled.

I think you got your answer.  My one line comment three months ago was about the "quality" of those 46 weeks.   The popularity chart in those years was very restricted and confined to a sales-only singles market where not all singles were released.   That is why I said the number was tainted.

That doesn't make it wrong or right but when you take that number and put it in a "longest running #1 ever" context, you start to compare things that can't be compared.  Would this song have spent 46 weeks at #1 today?  Probably not.  Which is why I gave the "tainted" comment three months ago.



 

[jenglisbe]

In other words there is no good answer to the Canada question.

[brady47]

Mar 6, 2015 11:52:15 GMT -5 Gary said:

Mar 6, 2015 11:31:32 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

I think you missed my point. The initial question was, "What's the longest running #1 in Canada?" Someone replied with a stat based on the charts since 2007. I am saying if I ask about longest-running #1 ever in a country, and I get a response based on information from only the past 7 years I would feel misled.

I think you got your answer.  My one line comment three months ago was about the "quality" of those 46 weeks.   The popularity chart in those years was very restricted and confined to a sales-only singles market where not all singles were released.   That is why I said the number was tainted.

That doesn't make it wrong or right but when you take that number and put it in a "longest running #1 ever" context, you start to compare things that can't be compared.  Would this song have spent 46 weeks at #1 today?  Probably not.  Which is why I gave the "tainted" comment three months ago.



 

I get what Gary is saying. The Canadian singles chart didn't have any correlation to what was popular in Canada pre-2007, before the Hot 100 came out, I just used the Canadian BDS Airplay Chart to get an idea of what was popular.

I guess to be fair you can just say I Gotta Feeling is the longest running #1 since 2007 since there was no Canadian Hot 100 before that.

It's unfortunate - I would have loved to see how Canadian hits like Say It Right, I'm Like a Bird, Complicated and I'm With You would have done in Canada.

[Musicguy]

As Billboard reported that Rihanna moves closer to Madonna's total of Top 20 hits on Billboard's Hot 100, I decided to make this video ranking the top female acts with the most Top 20 hits. :)

[mkarns]

In response to the Canada discussion, from 1964 to 2000 "RPM" magazine was published there which served seemingly as a Canadian Billboard, with a representative looking chart of the Canadian top 100 incorporating sales and airplay. The list of Canadian #1's in Wikipedia for those years uses RPM, and it doesn't have the dubious results like "Candle...1997" being in the top 10 for two years or whatever it was.

But even using that, there's a pretty recent gap (2000-07) for which I can't seem to settle on a definitive, usable singles chart. Any suggestions?