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Post by renfield75 on Nov 9, 2013 20:11:01 GMT -5
What was the manipulation of the head chart director jebsib? I'm ashamed to say I'm unfamiliar with this but I'd love to know the story behind it! With 35 #1 hits in '74 and '75 each there was clearly something crazy going on at Billboard.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 9, 2013 20:12:38 GMT -5
I haven't heard of it- which chart director? Cash Box had that big scandal, but that was with less prominent charts.
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Post by jebsib on Nov 9, 2013 21:36:17 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm away on vacation, away from my notes, but google "Bill Wardlow" and "1970s Billboard chart manipulation". He apparently fixed the charts for years until fired in 1983.
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 10, 2013 16:54:24 GMT -5
Larry Flick has mentioned Wardlow in passing on his radio show occasionally. It's never nice.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 10, 2013 17:54:12 GMT -5
I'm not totally sure how all of the years work out, but hasn't Mariah had the longest running #1 of a year 4 times? "Vision of Love" "Dreamlover" "One Sweet Day" "We Belong Together"
Is that a record?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 18:13:34 GMT -5
The year of Vision Of Love and its 4 week run, also featured 4 week runs by Sinead O Connor & Stevie B
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 18:17:28 GMT -5
Probably still a record, I can't find anyone else with three
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 11, 2013 8:22:28 GMT -5
I you're looking strictly at the calendar year, "End of the Road" spent the most weeks at No. 1 in 1992 (as "I Will Always Love You" carried over into 1993, and, at nine weeks, had the most weeks for cal. year 1993).
"I'll Make Love to You" spent 14 weeks at No. 1 in 1994, the longest run that year. And then "Fantasy" logged eight weeks in cal. year 1995 (the most, a few others had seven weeks). And in 1996, "One Sweet Day" logged 11 weeks, topped by "Macarena's" 14 weeks. The mid-90s through 1998 were somewhat marred by the amount of big radio hits not charting, but that was the decision of the labels, so...
However you look at it, Mimi Carey had four years with the single that spent the most week on top. And her cohorts Boyz II Men had three.
And on another note, Boyz II Men spent 17 weeks at No. 1 in 1994. As did Nelly in 2002 and Beyonce in 2003. Monica logged 19 weeks in 1998. Black Eyed Peas spent half a year at No. 1 in 2009. But it looks like Usher holds the record for the most weeks at No. 1 in a calendar year- in 2004, he logged a whopping 28weeks. This was before digital sales entered the mix, though, so it's marred by lack of sales- though to a lesser extent than the mid-90s-1998, as all songs could chart if they had enough airplay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 9:01:32 GMT -5
Semantics I suppose. Mariah had A single with the most weeks on top during 4 years. Mariah had THE single with the most weeks on top for three years. Depending on how you choose to looks at it, it is still 4
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Post by popstop on Nov 11, 2013 10:24:07 GMT -5
Under that standard, the Beatles had three - 1964, 1965, and 1968. If you add in Paul McCartney's duet on "Ebony and Ivory" in 1982, he's been part of four.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 11, 2013 10:25:58 GMT -5
In my above post, I also didn't mention that the Beatles logged 18 weeks at No. 1 in calendar year 1964.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 23:16:55 GMT -5
It's pre-Hot 100 but Elvis has the record for the most weeks at #1 for two consecutive years; 1956 and 1957, with 25 total weeks for each.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 12, 2013 10:35:16 GMT -5
Semantics I suppose. Mariah had A single with the most weeks on top during 4 years. Mariah had THE single with the most weeks on top for three years. Depending on how you choose to looks at it, it is still 4 This. What does it matter if one year there was a tie? Her song still had the most.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 12, 2013 10:37:54 GMT -5
I wonder if Usher's 28 weeks at No. 1 in a calendar year will ever be challenged. Black Eyed Peas came close; I suppose it could happen again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 10:44:37 GMT -5
If not for youtube, Macklemore would have had a good run this year
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Post by WolfSpear on Nov 12, 2013 16:58:37 GMT -5
What was the manipulation of the head chart director jebsib? I'm ashamed to say I'm unfamiliar with this but I'd love to know the story behind it! With 35 #1 hits in '74 and '75 each there was clearly something crazy going on at Billboard. It's claimed that disc jockeys dropped the songs off their playlists and continued playing them on the air. Virtually the same approach as country radio until Nielsen BDS came.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 13, 2013 11:50:41 GMT -5
MOST TOP 10 ALBUMS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 compiled by Chris Bigham
Rolling Stones 36
Frank Sinatra 33
Barbra Streisand 32 "Release Me"
The Beatles 30
Elvis Presley 27
Madonna 20 "MDNA" Bob Dylan 20 "Tempest"
Paul McCartney 19 "New"
George Strait 18 "Love Is Everything" Elton John 18 "The Diving Board"
Bruce Springsteen 17 "Wrecking Ball" Neil Diamond 17 "Hot August Night" Rod Stewart 17 "Time"
Johnny Mathis 16 Mariah Carey 16 "MCIIY"
Dave Matthews 15 "Away From The World" Tim McGraw 15 "Two Lanes Of Freedom" Jay Z 15 "Magna Carta... Holy Grail"
Garth Brooks 14 "Ultimate Hits" Prince 14 "Lotus Flow3r" Van Halen 14 "Different Kind of Truth" The Beach Boys 14 "That's Why God Made the Radio" R Kelly 14 "Write Me Back" Eric Clapton 14 "Old Sock" Toby Keith 14 "Drinks After Work."
Santana 13 "Guitar Heaven" Barry Manilow 13 "15 Minutes" Led Zeppelin 13 "Celebration"
Chicago 12 Rush 12 Alan Jackson 12 "Thirty Miles West" Bon Jovi 12 "What About Now" Korn 12 "The Paradigm Shift" Celine Dion 12 "Loved Me Back To Life" *new*
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 20, 2013 15:18:20 GMT -5
MOST TOP 10 ALBUMS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 compiled by Chris Bigham
Rolling Stones 36
Frank Sinatra 33
Barbra Streisand 32 "Release Me"
The Beatles 31 "On Air: Live at the BBC Volume 2" *new*
Elvis Presley 27
Madonna 20 "MDNA" Bob Dylan 20 "Tempest"
Paul McCartney 19 "New"
George Strait 18 "Love Is Everything" Elton John 18 "The Diving Board"
Bruce Springsteen 17 "Wrecking Ball" Neil Diamond 17 "Hot August Night" Rod Stewart 17 "Time"
Johnny Mathis 16 Mariah Carey 16 "MCIIY"
Dave Matthews 15 "Away From The World" Tim McGraw 15 "Two Lanes Of Freedom" Jay Z 15 "Magna Carta... Holy Grail"
Garth Brooks 14 "Ultimate Hits" Prince 14 "Lotus Flow3r" Van Halen 14 "Different Kind of Truth" The Beach Boys 14 "That's Why God Made the Radio" R Kelly 14 "Write Me Back" Eric Clapton 14 "Old Sock" Toby Keith 14 "Drinks After Work."
Santana 13 "Guitar Heaven" Barry Manilow 13 "15 Minutes" Led Zeppelin 13 "Celebration"
Chicago 12 Rush 12 Alan Jackson 12 "Thirty Miles West" Bon Jovi 12 "What About Now" Korn 12 "The Paradigm Shift" Celine Dion 12 "Loved Me Back To Life"
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 21, 2013 13:27:53 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 21, 2013 16:41:10 GMT -5
Wonder why Babs wasn't mentioned; A Classic Christmas debuted this week- she's had a bunch of entries.
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Post by Daniel Collins on Nov 25, 2013 12:44:41 GMT -5
How many top 10 does Janet Jackson have? It's 27 on most lists but I have listed 28 top 10 of her.
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Post by WolfSpear on Nov 25, 2013 13:36:33 GMT -5
Most #1 Albums in a calendar year (ascended within the year): 40 - 2013 40 - 2006 How many top 10 does Janet Jackson have? It's 27 on most lists but I have listed 28 top 10 of her. Hi Stellards, Is Janet officially credited on Herb Alpert's "Diamonds"? Chances are, this is most likely where the difference comes in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 13:38:42 GMT -5
That has to do with how music is marketed. Like movies, it is all about the first week.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 4, 2013 11:01:00 GMT -5
Albums with over 400k sold:
2011
(1) Born This Way – Lady Gaga – 1.108 (1) Watch The Throne – Jay-Z & Kanye West – 436 (1) Tha Carter IV – Lil Wayne – 964 (1) Mylo Xyloto – Coldplay – 447 (1) Take Care - Drake - 631 (1) Christmas - Michael Bublé - 479 (1) Christmas - Michael Bublé - 448 (1) Christmas - Michael Bublé - 467
2012
(1) 21 – Adele – 730 (1) Babel – Mumford & Sons – 600 (1) Night Train – Jason Aldean – 409 (1) Red – Taylor Swift – 1.208 (1) Take Me Home – One Direction – 540
2013
(1) 20/20 Experience - Justin Timberlake - 968 (1) Magna Carta - Jay Z - 528 (1) Crash My Party - Luke Bryan - 527 (1) Nothing Was The Same - Drake - 658 (1) Marshall Mathers 2 LP - Eminem - 792 (1) Midnight Memories - One Direction - 546
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 4, 2013 11:41:17 GMT -5
Don't forget to post an updated "Most Top 10 Albums". :)
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 11, 2013 11:18:28 GMT -5
MOST TOP 10 ALBUMS ON THE BILLBOARD 200 compiled by Chris Bigham
Rolling Stones 36
Frank Sinatra 33
Barbra Streisand 32 "Release Me"
The Beatles 31 "On Air: Live at the BBC Volume 2"
Elvis Presley 27
Madonna 20 "MDNA" Bob Dylan 20 "Tempest"
Paul McCartney 19 "New"
George Strait 18 "Love Is Everything" Elton John 18 "The Diving Board"
Bruce Springsteen 17 "Wrecking Ball" Neil Diamond 17 "Hot August Night" Rod Stewart 17 "Time"
Johnny Mathis 16 Mariah Carey 16 "MCIIY"
Dave Matthews 15 "Away From The World" Tim McGraw 15 "Two Lanes Of Freedom" Jay Z 15 "Magna Carta... Holy Grail" Garth Brooks 15 "Blame It On My Roots"
Prince 14 "Lotus Flow3r" Van Halen 14 "Different Kind of Truth" The Beach Boys 14 "That's Why God Made the Radio" R Kelly 14 "Write Me Back" Eric Clapton 14 "Old Sock" Toby Keith 14 "Drinks After Work."
Santana 13 "Guitar Heaven" Barry Manilow 13 "15 Minutes" Led Zeppelin 13 "Celebration"
Chicago 12 Rush 12 Alan Jackson 12 "Thirty Miles West" Bon Jovi 12 "What About Now" Korn 12 "The Paradigm Shift" Celine Dion 12 "Loved Me Back To Life" Mary J Blige "A Mary Christmas" 12 *new*
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 11, 2013 11:28:01 GMT -5
Brooks advances on the No. 1s list this week ,too, with his ninth.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 11, 2013 11:31:43 GMT -5
MOST #1 ALBUMS ON THE BILLBOARD 200
Beatles 19
Jay-Z 13
Elvis Presley 10 Bruce Springsteen 10
Rolling Stones 9 Barbra Streisand 9 Garth Brooks 9 *new*
Madonna 8
Elton John 7 Paul McCartney/Wings 7 Led Zeppelin 7 U2 7 Kenny Chesney 7 Eminem 7
Janet Jackson 6 The Eagles 6 Mariah Carey 6 Michael Jackson 6 Britney Spears 6 Nas 6 Dave Matthews Band 6 Kanye West 6
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2013 18:26:42 GMT -5
Is it a chart record for Mariah that her first 11 singles went top 5?
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 13, 2013 18:50:40 GMT -5
I'm also wondering if Mariah has the most year-end top 10s with 7 (Vision of Love at 6, Dreamlover at 8, Hero at 5, Fantasy at 7, One Sweet Day at 2, ABMB at 5, and We Belong Together at 1).
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