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Post by sunpeach on Dec 26, 2006 15:38:24 GMT -5
I saw it at the Galleria in Sherman Oaks. The 4:45 show was sold-out so had to wait until the next one- it became sold-out too- I think everyone seat was filled. There was a little applause during Jen's "And I am telling you" and more at the end of the song. Beyonce got a little applause at the end when her name came up- Eddie got a little more and Jennifer got the most. It was a mixed crowd- more white than African-American.
The lip-syncing IS off- it was noticeable more than once- and it looked one or two times the expression did not match what was being sung- I think the film will be lucky if it gets a "Best Picture" nomination- I don't think it has a chance at a "Best Director" nom- but Jennifer is almost a sure-thing to win the Supporting Oscar. Eddie will be nominated too and he might win, as well, although his chances are not as good as Jennifer's.
Beyonce won't be nominated and she is handicapped by a major blunder. Her song "Listen," which is a great song which she sings awesome, seems almost as much of show-stopper as Jen's "And I am Telling You"- when I first heard it, it seems to convey the character's feelings- but while Jennifer gets to act out her song, they have Beyonce in a "recording booth" singing it with earphones on- that negates any real power the song might have had- in fact, it even gets a little dull just watching her in the booth singing it.
As a Jen fan, I would like nothing better than people thinking it is a "masterpiece"or what-not, but from where I was sitting, it was a major disappointment.
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Post by **Alpha Loves Bee And Akon** on Dec 26, 2006 16:24:02 GMT -5
I saw the movie and I thought it was great. My only complaints were this: Beyonce's acting was wayyyyy too stiff and dull. Thats funny cuz thats exactly what Deena jones/Diana Ross is supposed to be
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Post by d.t.m on Dec 26, 2006 16:58:48 GMT -5
I saw the movie and I thought it was great. My only complaints were this: Beyonce's acting was wayyyyy too stiff and dull. Thats funny cuz thats exactly what Deena jones/Diana Ross is supposed to be I just saw Dreamgirls, and yes, Hudson brought down the house. I actually thought that the 3 supporting stars(Hudson, Rose, Murphy) outshined the two leads. It was a given that Foxx was going to be upstaged as his role was in the play, but it was a huge mistake to downplay the character of Deena in the film adaptation. This could have been the chance to make Deena, the supposed star, more complex and juicier, matching the fiery Effie blow for blow. Instead, a true Diva war is reduced to one brief screamfest scene, preceding Jen's breakout "And I Am Telling You." Love Diana Ross or hate her, no one can deny that she was anything but dull. She didn't require anyone to push her into the spotlight like Deena, rather she was ready to push herself. Sure, she was Berry Gordy's muse, but she instinctively opposed anyone who stood in her way towards success-a true Diva in every sense of the word. Several reviewers have noted this and I believe it was this error and a uneven performance that will cost Beyonce, whom I surprisingly found to be the weakest link, an acting nomination. Golden Globe nod nonwithstanding, I'm sure the acting branch of the Academy won't feel compelled to include her just as they won't Jamie. Beyonce has a few good scenes, but by the time they arrive she's fell off the radar and leaves one wishing for Hudson's return. If anything Beyonce's beauty and voice(particularly in Listen) was expertly utilized by director Bill Condon, it's just that what's left afterwards pretty much fell flat. Even Anika's characterization inspired more attention and sympathy. Now I'm beginning to believe those pesky Knowles family-director-Hudson drama rumors. Oh, any for the poster who implied Ray's Oscar nods didn't help its B.O., the film was pulled early from theatres by distributors instead of maximizing its post Oscar nod run. Nevertheless, it still snagged 75mil and a record 44mil on first day DVD sales(where most of a movie's returns are coming from nowadays, really).
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Post by sunpeach on Dec 26, 2006 18:17:45 GMT -5
I don't know why Diana Ross would be upset over the movie- Deena plainly says she should not be the lead and she does not want to be and that Effie is a better singer and at the end, Deena is practically a "saint" helping Effie make a comeback.
Diana Ross was a bitch in real life and everyone knows it. I read where there was a good group- maybe the Bluebells, who were going to perform after Diana and the Supremes and Diana went and found out what they were wearing, had her and the Supremes wear the same outfit to make them look like fools when they came out after her. She was "evil" and this Deena is portrayed nothing like that at all.
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Post by **Alpha Loves Bee And Akon** on Dec 26, 2006 18:20:02 GMT -5
Thats funny cuz thats exactly what Deena jones/Diana Ross is supposed to be I just saw Dreamgirls, and yes, Hudson brought down the house. I actually thought that the 3 supporting stars(Hudson, Rose, Murphy) outshined the two leads. It was a given that Foxx was going to be upstaged as his role was in the play, but it was a huge mistake to downplay the character of Deena in the film adaptation. This could have been the chance to make Deena, the supposed star, more complex and juicier, matching the fiery Effie blow for blow. Instead, a true Diva war is reduced to one brief screamfest scene, preceding Jen's breakout "And I Am Telling You." Love Diana Ross or hate her, no one can deny that she was anything but dull. She didn't require anyone to push her into the spotlight like Deena, rather she was ready to push herself. Sure, she was Berry Gordy's muse, but she instinctively opposed anyone who stood in her way towards success-a true Diva in every sense of the word. Several reviewers have noted this and I believe it was this error and a uneven performance that will cost Beyonce, whom I surprisingly found to be the weakest link, an acting nomination. Golden Globe nod nonwithstanding, I'm sure the acting branch of the Academy won't feel compelled to include her just as they won't Jamie. Beyonce has a few good scenes, but by the time they arrive she's fell off the radar and leaves one wishing for Hudson's return. If anything Beyonce's beauty and voice(particularly in Listen) was expertly utilized by director Bill Condon, it's just that what's left afterwards pretty much fell flat. Even Anika's characterization inspired more attention and sympathy. Now I'm beginning to believe those pesky Knowles family-director-Hudson drama rumors. Oh, any for the poster who implied Ray's Oscar nods didn't help its B.O., the film was pulled early from theatres by distributors instead of maximizing its post Oscar nod run. Nevertheless, it still snagged 75mil and a record 44mil on first day DVD sales(where most of a movie's returns are coming from nowadays, really). Im sorry i meant Deena Only not Diana
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Post by d.t.m on Dec 26, 2006 18:36:14 GMT -5
I just saw Dreamgirls, and yes, Hudson brought down the house. I actually thought that the 3 supporting stars(Hudson, Rose, Murphy) outshined the two leads. It was a given that Foxx was going to be upstaged as his role was in the play, but it was a huge mistake to downplay the character of Deena in the film adaptation. This could have been the chance to make Deena, the supposed star, more complex and juicier, matching the fiery Effie blow for blow. Instead, a true Diva war is reduced to one brief screamfest scene, preceding Jen's breakout "And I Am Telling You." Love Diana Ross or hate her, no one can deny that she was anything but dull. She didn't require anyone to push her into the spotlight like Deena, rather she was ready to push herself. Sure, she was Berry Gordy's muse, but she instinctively opposed anyone who stood in her way towards success-a true Diva in every sense of the word. Several reviewers have noted this and I believe it was this error and a uneven performance that will cost Beyonce, whom I surprisingly found to be the weakest link, an acting nomination. Golden Globe nod nonwithstanding, I'm sure the acting branch of the Academy won't feel compelled to include her just as they won't Jamie. Beyonce has a few good scenes, but by the time they arrive she's fell off the radar and leaves one wishing for Hudson's return. If anything Beyonce's beauty and voice(particularly in Listen) was expertly utilized by director Bill Condon, it's just that what's left afterwards pretty much fell flat. Even Anika's characterization inspired more attention and sympathy. Now I'm beginning to believe those pesky Knowles family-director-Hudson drama rumors. Oh, any for the poster who implied Ray's Oscar nods didn't help its B.O., the film was pulled early from theatres by distributors instead of maximizing its post Oscar nod run. Nevertheless, it still snagged 75mil and a record 44mil on first day DVD sales(where most of a movie's returns are coming from nowadays, really). Im sorry i meant Deena Only not Diana Yeah, but since the filmmakers are implying that Deena IS Diana I figured I'd still throw that out there. ;)
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Post by **Alpha Loves Bee And Akon** on Dec 26, 2006 18:38:51 GMT -5
Im sorry i meant Deena Only not Diana Yeah, but since the filmmakers are implying that Deena IS Diana I figured I'd still throw that out there. ;) No both group stories look alike but Deena character is so different from Diana Ross Ballard is also so different from effie
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 26, 2006 20:02:00 GMT -5
The album was in such full stock every since its release at tonight @ Target, it was completely sold-out!!
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Post by d.t.m on Dec 26, 2006 20:27:28 GMT -5
Yeah, but since the filmmakers are implying that Deena IS Diana I figured I'd still throw that out there. ;) No both group stories look alike but Deena character is so different from Diana Ross Ballard is also so different from effie Yes, they're different but there are so many similarities with Deena and Diana that it's a no brainer(the hair, rise, dresses, mannerisms on stage). It's like the borrowed all the frivolous elements instead of the true substance. Nonetheless, even if they wanted to keep the Diana similarities at a minimum they could have made Deena more livlier than what she was and allow her to want something. Every character, even passive ones, should want something and it seems as if Deena just exists for much of the film...boring. This is why critics have suggested that Hudson go lead at the Oscars instead of Knowles. It has nothing to do with the performances, it's just that Effie is a fully drawn out, central character with real wants and that's what drives the film.
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Post by britneyrules on Dec 26, 2006 21:44:31 GMT -5
I laugh at anyone who says Deena & Diana were nothing alike.
They were both bitches. Had lots of attitude. Great voices. Did they same facial expressions in them low down cheap-ass photoshoots and both fogot to shave they cooches. Yeah Beyonce had some extra bulging in that area if u get my drift.
J/P about that last part LOL
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Post by elphabanc on Dec 26, 2006 22:31:14 GMT -5
I have been anticipating this movie since it was first announced. I loved the play and the music, and grew even more excited from all the positive buzz posted online and in the media. I finally saw the movie last night (25th) in Dallas, and I was underwhelmed. I really wanted to love the movie, but I left the theater disappointed. The acting was okay (Jennifer and Eddie M. did a very nice job) and I loved the music, but it didn't seem to have much spark to me. I couldn't help but compare it to the film version of Chicago a few years ago. I saw that stage show and hated it. However, while watching the movie, I sat thrilled the whole time because of the visuals, the music, etc. With Dreamgirls, it seemed to be the opposite. I loved the stage version, but the movie didn't live up to it. I'm a big Diana Ross fan and know a lot about the Supremes/solo Diana story. In fact, half the time, I kept seeing "Deena" and thinking, "That looks just like Diana Ross in Mahogany" or "I've seen those shots of Diana Ross before!" I will definitely see the movie again to give it another chance, but my impression was definitely just "eh!"
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Post by d.t.m on Dec 26, 2006 23:58:57 GMT -5
I have been anticipating this movie since it was first announced. I loved the play and the music, and grew even more excited from all the positive buzz posted online and in the media. I finally saw the movie last night (25th) in Dallas, and I was underwhelmed. I really wanted to love the movie, but I left the theater disappointed. The acting was okay (Jennifer and Eddie M. did a very nice job) and I loved the music, but it didn't seem to have much spark to me. I couldn't help but compare it to the film version of Chicago a few years ago. I saw that stage show and hated it. However, while watching the movie, I sat thrilled the whole time because of the visuals, the music, etc. With Dreamgirls, it seemed to be the opposite. I loved the stage version, but the movie didn't live up to it. I'm a big Diana Ross fan and know a lot about the Supremes/solo Diana story. In fact, half the time, I kept seeing "Deena" and thinking, "That looks just like Diana Ross in Mahogany" or "I've seen those shots of Diana Ross before!" I will definitely see the movie again to give it another chance, but my impression was definitely just "eh!" Yeah, the producers were most likely interested in paying a homage to La Ross by glamorizing yet sweetening her image. Curiously, I believe Beyonce broke the record for most number of costume changes in a film that was previously held by Ross in Mahogany! The gays in the theatre were wilding out when they saw the pretty Diana Ross connections toward the end lol.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Dec 28, 2006 19:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by onevoice20 on Dec 28, 2006 19:43:16 GMT -5
I thought the movie was remarkably good. Probably the best I've seen in 2006. Jennifer's "And I Am Telling You I Am Not Going" received a huge applause. She also got a lot of reception when the credits were playing.
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on Dec 29, 2006 0:35:16 GMT -5
I thought the movie was remarkably good. Probably the best I've seen in 2006. Jennifer's "And I Am Telling You I Am Not Going" received a huge applause. She also got a lot of reception when the credits were playing. Definately
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Post by josh on Dec 30, 2006 22:25:27 GMT -5
Hey folks,
I heard (maybe on this board), that Jennifer Hudson will be coming to Sydney for the Australian premiere of Dreamgirls. Does anyone here know where she'll be appearing here and what day, time, etc.? I can't find anything about her schedule on her myspace or website.
I'd love to go see her.
Thanks! Happy New Year!
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 31, 2006 0:45:30 GMT -5
Jennifer OWNS "And I'm Telling You"!! It is officially HER song now!!! Best moment in a movie all year!
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Post by britneyrules on Dec 31, 2006 0:47:14 GMT -5
Heh. I got a DVD Screener of it today down in chicago :)
LOVES IT!
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 31, 2006 0:47:29 GMT -5
Jennifer OWNS "And I'm Telling You"!! It is officially HER song now!!! Best moment in a movie all year! You're crazy. That song will forever belong to Jennifer Holliday.
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Post by musicmania001 on Dec 31, 2006 3:21:17 GMT -5
Exactly, JHud did a great job, but she doesnt compare hardly to Jennifer Holliday at all!!!
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Post by sunpeach on Dec 31, 2006 5:02:02 GMT -5
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Dec 31, 2006 15:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by britneyrules on Dec 31, 2006 16:51:08 GMT -5
I watched this 3 times today :)
I LOVE THIS MOVIE!
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Post by rdh: THE YONKAZ! on Dec 31, 2006 17:29:40 GMT -5
Not feeling those pics of Jenn, but the movie was wonderful!
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Post by sydneyp on Dec 31, 2006 17:41:49 GMT -5
I went to see it today. I'm not planning to buy the soundtrack. I don't mind watching them perform the songs, but, without the visuals, I'm really not interested in the songs.
The movie was good and I enjoyed it. I wouldn't say it's best picture material, but it was enjoyable - a crowd pleaser. I won't see it again at the theater, but I'll probably get the DVD.
As far acting, Jennifer really shined when singing, but, between songs, I didn't think there was anything special about her acting. She does have a nice presence in front of the camera, very relaxed and natural, so I can see her in other roles. As for whether she deserves an Oscar, well, she was playing a singer who gets shoved to the background in favor of another singer (sound familiar?). Not sure how much acting that took. But, if Whoopi Goldberg can get an Oscar for Ghost, and Marisa Tomei for My Cousin Vinny, then there's no reason why Jennifer can't get one for this role. There are a few other actresses, though, that I think are equally deserving of Supporting Actress this year, so I wouldn't be disappointed or think she was robbed if she lost.
Beyonce was fine. I wasn't sitting there thinking, gosh, this girl cannot act, like I did in other movies that i saw with her - but I think she should stick with singing. She was Deena, the way the character was written. But, when singing, like Jennifer, Beyonce came alive and was great. Clearly, the movie was written to showcase Effie/Jennifer, though, so I can see why she's getting most of the attention.
Eddie and Jamie were fine in their roles. I also think the guy who played Effie's brother was very good.
Overall, a good movie. It didn't measure up to all the hype, but I wasn't disappointed.
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 3, 2007 15:46:01 GMT -5
Wow- Dreamgirls is now number 3. Jennifer's album is outselling Fantasia's.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 3, 2007 15:58:03 GMT -5
4 COL 41 31 3 DREAMGIRLS SOUNDTRACK 104,366 -17% 125,272 385,638
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Post by britneyrules on Jan 3, 2007 15:59:55 GMT -5
This is gonna go platinum
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Post by d.t.m on Jan 3, 2007 16:00:06 GMT -5
Wow- Dreamgirls is now number 3. Jennifer's album is outselling Fantasia's. This isn't Jennifer's album.
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 4, 2007 12:42:52 GMT -5
Congrats to Eddie and Jennifer who got SAG noms! these are the most important than any because they are the real test for the Oscars- and the Dreamgirls cast got nominated for assemble, so that is great. What is interesting is that Eddie's real competition, and the one people have been saying is a shoo-in to win the Supporting Actor Oscar- Jack Nicholson, was not nominated at all- that is a sort of shock- it is still said he will win the Oscar but Eddie might have a real chance here.
If Jennifer wins this one, she has the Oscar- but she is facing some competition from this girl named Ninko from Babel who has been picking up some awards though Jennifer is still leading her but it might be tight between them. We'll see!
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