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Post by d.t.m on Jan 4, 2007 13:49:27 GMT -5
Congrats to Eddie and Jennifer who got SAG noms! these are the most important than any because they are the real test for the Oscars- and the Dreamgirls cast got nominated for assemble, so that is great. What is interesting is that Eddie's real competition, and the one people have been saying is a shoo-in to win the Supporting Actor Oscar- Jack Nicholson, was not nominated at all- that is a sort of shock- it is still said he will win the Oscar but Eddie might have a real chance here. If Jennifer wins this one, she has the Oscar- but she is facing some competition from this girl named Ninko from Babel who has been picking up some awards though Jennifer is still leading her but it might be tight between them. We'll see! Jennifer needs to start writing her acceptance speech. I said this on another baord--no other Best Supporting Candidate this decade, perhaps with the exception of Renee Zellweger for Cold Mountain, has generated the amount of industry buzz she has for her performance. To have her lose would be the biggest upset of the last 10 years--even the other candidates realize this!
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 5, 2007 16:32:11 GMT -5
Beyonce and academy respond to Oscar song news Yesterday when we broke the news that Beyonce Knowles is not eligible to be nominated for best song at the Oscars as she is at the Globes, we'd received confirmation from the studio. Now we've heard directly from the Oscars and Beyonce's rep. First, here's what academy PR spokesman John Pavlik says: "Various branch executive committees have to make this kind of a decision almost every year, and the decision always comes down to the same thing: who had the most to do with the achievement being considered. It was no different in this case." Beyonce's rep Alan Nierob says, "It's wrong to say that Beyonce was disqualified because she never qualified. Beyonce is aware of the Oscar rule that says only three songwriters can be nominated. It's all about percentages — how much each person contributed to the song. Beyonce contributed greatly to 'Listen,' but her percentage is lower, so she didn't expect to be eligible for nomination. She's very happy that her co-writers may be recognized." Nierob confirms that Beyonce is officially credited as a best-song nominee at the Golden Globes. January 03, 2007 in Academy Awards, Oscars | Permalink Comments if she knew she would not qualify-why even submitt with your name attached. goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/01/beyonce_and_aca.html
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Post by legend1982 on Jan 5, 2007 17:11:55 GMT -5
Congrats to Eddie and Jennifer who got SAG noms! these are the most important than any because they are the real test for the Oscars- and the Dreamgirls cast got nominated for assemble, so that is great. What is interesting is that Eddie's real competition, and the one people have been saying is a shoo-in to win the Supporting Actor Oscar- Jack Nicholson, was not nominated at all- that is a sort of shock- it is still said he will win the Oscar but Eddie might have a real chance here. If Jennifer wins this one, she has the Oscar- but she is facing some competition from this girl named Ninko from Babel who has been picking up some awards though Jennifer is still leading her but it might be tight between them. We'll see! Jennifer needs to start writing her acceptance speech. I said this on another baord--no other Best Supporting Candidate this decade, perhaps with the exception of Renee Zellweger for Cold Mountain, has generated the amount of industry buzz she has for her performance. To have her lose would be the biggest upset of the last 10 years--even the other candidates realize this! It could happen. I doubt that it will, but it could. The acting branch is the only one who votes on the acting awards. If people get tired of all of the hoopla surrounding her (i.e. bruised egos), it could hurt her or if she rubs some people the wrong way they could campaign for someone else. BUT I think her character is the reason she will win. There is something about Effie White that we all can relate to. And I think actors in this business understand being overshadowed and fighting against the system. So, most likely, she will win.
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Post by missclarkson on Jan 5, 2007 17:21:07 GMT -5
Very happy ? yeahhh..right.. ;) happier than agulera of course ...
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Post by d.t.m on Jan 5, 2007 18:02:06 GMT -5
Jennifer needs to start writing her acceptance speech. I said this on another baord--no other Best Supporting Candidate this decade, perhaps with the exception of Renee Zellweger for Cold Mountain, has generated the amount of industry buzz she has for her performance. To have her lose would be the biggest upset of the last 10 years--even the other candidates realize this! It could happen. I doubt that it will, but it could. The acting branch is the only one who votes on the acting awards. If people get tired of all of the hoopla surrounding her (i.e. bruised egos), it could hurt her or if she rubs some people the wrong way they could campaign for someone else. BUT I think her character is the reason she will win. There is something about Effie White that we all can relate to. And I think actors in this business understand being overshadowed and fighting against the system. So, most likely, she will win. No, the acting branch is the only branch that nominates the actors just as only the directors nominate the 5 Best Directors and so forth. Then the entire 5,000+ body of the Academy votes for all of the winners and I'm sure that most of them share the sentiment that the girl's debut is almost legendary in a very weak year for female support players. She also has the critic awards to back up the hoopla. However, you are right about the sympathetic nature of her character being a factor. Dreamgirls is essentially, after all, a feel good flick about making it in showbiz. Effie's plight is sure to stike accord with those who struggled to stay in the spotlight.
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Post by d.t.m on Jan 5, 2007 18:13:49 GMT -5
Beyonce and academy respond to Oscar song news Yesterday when we broke the news that Beyonce Knowles is not eligible to be nominated for best song at the Oscars as she is at the Globes, we'd received confirmation from the studio. Now we've heard directly from the Oscars and Beyonce's rep. First, here's what academy PR spokesman John Pavlik says: "Various branch executive committees have to make this kind of a decision almost every year, and the decision always comes down to the same thing: who had the most to do with the achievement being considered. It was no different in this case." Beyonce's rep Alan Nierob says, "It's wrong to say that Beyonce was disqualified because she never qualified. Beyonce is aware of the Oscar rule that says only three songwriters can be nominated. It's all about percentages — how much each person contributed to the song. Beyonce contributed greatly to 'Listen,' but her percentage is lower, so she didn't expect to be eligible for nomination. She's very happy that her co-writers may be recognized." Nierob confirms that Beyonce is officially credited as a best-song nominee at the Golden Globes. January 03, 2007 in Academy Awards, Oscars | Permalink Comments if she knew she would not qualify-why even submitt with your name attached. goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/01/beyonce_and_aca.htmlYes, and it just so happens that she was the one to go with no fight? Baloney and a quick tactic to save face. I don't really blame them, but if she knew in advance of the rule and that she would be bumped then why not aknowledge more to folks that she had less of a hand in the whole song than she said? That way it wouldn't have come as such a shock to the general public. Better yet, why still submit your name for consideration??? Or if the Knowles did truly know of the rule beforehand something tells me that Matthew probably attempted(albeit unsuccessfully) to buy out one of the two living writer's credit under the table just as he allegedly tried to beefen the character of Deena. But no Oscar is worth compromising for even a million bucks.
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 6, 2007 9:20:34 GMT -5
Well I'm sure she and her publicist want to reiterate she had a big hand in it because she has every intention of going to the podium going to the Globes to accept that award if she gets it, and any others that come her way and if she says she didn't- people will wonder how anyone with any dignity or self-respect would be up there accepting it. But she obviously submitted her name for a reason and i don't buy her story about it at all. But it is great that she still plans and hopes to sing it at the Oscars. You Can't Lose at the Oscars If You Can't Win by Joal Ryan Fri Jan 5, 6:28 AM ET Los Angeles (E! Online) - Beyoncé Knowles cannot lose the Best Song Oscar. Brad Pitt cannot be denied the Best Picture award. That's because Knowles isn't even eligible in the former category; and, as of now, Pitt, a credited producer on The Departed, isn't eligible in the latter category. Such are the breaks of the Oscar ballot. In the case of Knowles, the singer-actor is one of four credited songwriters on the new Dreamgirls tune "Listen." And at the Jan. 15 Golden Globes, she'll be vying for a Best Original Song statuette along with her three collaborators, Henry Krieger, Anne Preven and Scott Cutler. But come the Oscars, should the track rate an Original Song nomination, Knowles won't be one of the nominees. That's because the Academy limits the number of credited songwriters to three per song. And in the credit roll on "Listen," Knowles is fourth, leaving her the odd composer out. "It's no surprise," Knowles spokesman Alan Nierob said Thursday. "It's all good. The rules are the rules." The rules, as they relate to Knowles, were first brought to light Wednesday by the Los Angeles Times' awards-centric Website, the Envelope (theenvelope.com). According to Academy spokeswoman Teni Melidonian, the limit on Original Song personnel was enforced starting with films released in 2005. The move was done, the rep said Thursday, to ensure that songwriters and composers who make the greatest contribution receive the greatest amount of Oscar credit. And on "Listen," it was determined, Knowles' collaborators made greater contributions than Knowles. Which is not the same as saying Knowles didn't contribute. She did, Nierob said. And not only that, she sounds ready to contribute more. "If the song's fortunate enough to be nominated, if they are kind enough to invite her to perform [at the show], no one else is going to perform it, I hope," Nierob said. Pitt, meanwhile, looks to have lost a shot at a potential Best Picture Oscar after the Producers Guild of America on Wednesday nominated The Departed for its top award, but only listed Graham King as the crime drama's producer. In the film, Pitt, King and Paramount honcho Brad Grey are all listed as producers. The PGA's take on who is and isn't a noteworthy producer is key, because the Academy now uses the guild to help vet which producers are eligible for its Best Picture award. "The producers in the Academy were increasingly bothered by the number of individuals given the producer credit," Academy executive director Bruce Davis said Thursday. "They thought it was watering down what it means to be a producer." As far as the Oscars go, the producers' guild word isn't final. Someone who was not deigned creditworthy by the PGA, such as Pitt or Grey, could file an appeal with the Academy should his or her film go on to snag a Best Picture nomination. Last year, three shut-out producers on Crash tried, and failed, to get in the game that way. According to Thursday's Times, Grey was undecided about whether he would pursue an Academy appeal should The Departed end up in the Oscars' Best Picture race come the Jan. 23 nominations. It was not known if Pitt even asked the guild to list him among The Departed's award-worthy producers. A PGA spokeswoman said Thursday that she couldn't comment; Pitt's personal publicist could not be reached for comment. Per the Times, Grey not only asked the PGA for the credit, he lobbied—hard. All is not lost, meanwhile, for Pitt and Knowles. Pitt is still eligible for the acting categories for Babel. Knowles is still being pushed as a Best Actress contender for Dreamgirls. When it comes to the Oscars, it never hurts to diversify. news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20070105/en_movies_eo/cf0fdc3a64af_4c2d_a4fb_e633cf414971
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 7, 2007 6:01:43 GMT -5
As much as I love Jennifer, I'm no sycophant to anyone- and I'm now convinced that Jennifer is not able to sing "And I am telling you" very well LIVE and that is why she is not doing it. I don't believe the story of the Director having the power to tell her when she can sing it because the movie has been out for some time and there is no excuse for her not singing this song on some shows and at her own concert. Granted, her rendition is so sensational, it's hard to live up to it, but her not even trying is now becoming embarrassing and it's beginning to look like she can't do it. If she wants to be a true superstar and live up to all this acclaim, she needs to take the bull by the horns and get her ass out there and start singing it- give it all she's got. I think she can do it but i feel fear is holding her back.
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Post by jdanton2 on Jan 7, 2007 6:55:13 GMT -5
maybe Jennifer is saving it to sing at the Academy Awards . i know it wont be up for song but they might do a Dreamgirls medly i am guessing .
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 8, 2007 16:21:49 GMT -5
Condon has announced he is putting together a video of Jennifer singing "And I am Telling You" but not from the film footage- he hopes it can be circulated and bring in people who were not see it from some other way- I have to admit, I like Hudson's version more and more - I like it better than Holiday's version and that is saying alot.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 10, 2007 11:57:56 GMT -5
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Post by rdh: THE YONKAZ! on Jan 10, 2007 12:02:35 GMT -5
I wonder how the singles did this week.
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Post by chrissy24 on Jan 10, 2007 12:28:40 GMT -5
GO JENNIFER SHE IS ONE OF THE BEST SINGERS RIGHT NOW ALONG WITH CHRISTINA THERE BOTH GREAT!
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Post by chrissy24 on Jan 10, 2007 12:34:09 GMT -5
THAT'S SO NICE YOU WAS THINKING ABOUT CHRISTINA AGUILERA WHEN YOU WERE WATCHING THE MOVIE I TELL YOU WHEN SHE'S GOOD SHE'S GOOD!LOL
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Post by sydneyp on Jan 10, 2007 12:46:30 GMT -5
As much as I love Jennifer, I'm no sycophant to anyone- and I'm now convinced that Jennifer is not able to sing "And I am telling you" very well LIVE and that is why she is not doing it. I think this is one of the reasons why Condon wants to do the video, because he's got concerns about how she would do it live. The best promotion for the movie is to get Jennifer out there and sing that song - that's the one that everyone wants to hear. One Night Only is nice (although, I prefer the disco version), and Love You I Do is nice, but, really, I haven't heard about people standing up and cheering during the movie when she sings those songs. On the other hand, though, her academy award nomination is not supposed to be based on her singing (although, I think it is in this case). She doesn't NEED to sing the song to win any of the awards. I wonder where the video would show. The only places that play music videos these days are MTV and BET/106 and Park. Is that the crowd that he's aiming for?
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 10, 2007 13:35:47 GMT -5
As much as I love Jennifer, I'm no sycophant to anyone- and I'm now convinced that Jennifer is not able to sing "And I am telling you" very well LIVE and that is why she is not doing it. I think this is one of the reasons why Condon wants to do the video, because he's got concerns about how she would do it live. The best promotion for the movie is to get Jennifer out there and sing that song - that's the one that everyone wants to hear. One Night Only is nice (although, I prefer the disco version), and Love You I Do is nice, but, really, I haven't heard about people standing up and cheering during the movie when she sings those songs. On the other hand, though, her academy award nomination is not supposed to be based on her singing (although, I think it is in this case). She doesn't NEED to sing the song to win any of the awards. I wonder where the video would show. The only places that play music videos these days are MTV and BET/106 and Park. Is that the crowd that he's aiming for? I think you have hit it on the head. Instead of singing it "live," which they want, they are going to send out the video instead hoping that will be a substitute. We know how much negativity Tamyra Gray got when she mangled the "Star Bangled Banner" onthe Idol finale- no one wants to take that chance. After the deadline for the Oscar ballots come in, I think she will go out there and sing it- but not before, it's too risky she might come up for ridicule. Jennifer did well for the"live' Idol performances, so there should not be that much hesitation- she proved then she could bring the house down under pressure- but with the ballots in she might feel a little more relaxed that so much is riding on it.
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Post by chrissy24 on Jan 10, 2007 13:49:37 GMT -5
they didn't have to stand up in cheer on all her songs they stood up and clapped for jennifer when she performed one night only and i am telling you when i went to see it really all jennifer music numbers were good i love jennifer version of one night only that's some good singign talent right there and i'm sure she can sing in i'm telling you live i'm sure she will do it at least once!
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Post by chrissy24 on Jan 10, 2007 13:50:33 GMT -5
i meant singing damn typing to fast!lol
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 11, 2007 9:31:04 GMT -5
Certified 1xp by the RIAA.
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Post by sydneyp on Jan 13, 2007 7:57:45 GMT -5
Dreamgirls won big at the Broadcast Film Critics Association awards last night (it and Little Miss Sunshine won four awards). These awards are supposed to be a good predictor of the Oscar.
BEST SONG Listen - Beyonce - Dreamgirls (Hers was the name listed with the nominations, so I wonder if the award is given to the performer)
BEST SOUNDTRACK Dreamgirls
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Eddie Murphy - Dreamgirls
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Jennifer Hudson - Dreamgirls
(The Departed won for Best Picture, and Scorcese for Best Director)
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Post by Pulse on Jan 13, 2007 8:20:07 GMT -5
They have some EP on iTunes with remixes from the original cast album. Looks like a lame cash in LOL!
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Post by sydneyp on Jan 14, 2007 8:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jan 14, 2007 9:24:59 GMT -5
that was amazing. in more ways than one.
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Post by Eu on Jan 14, 2007 9:48:55 GMT -5
lip-synching?
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Post by bubblepop15 on Jan 14, 2007 10:08:50 GMT -5
I watched that last night... so disturbing.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Jan 14, 2007 16:22:20 GMT -5
That was just sooo hilarious! Jake looks surprisingly good in a dress.
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Post by sunpeach on Jan 17, 2007 0:38:57 GMT -5
Diana Ross was on Regis and Kelly and said she is going to be on American Idol mentoring a theme night. Not a word was mentioned about "Dreamgirls." Her new CD- I love you- which are covers and the song she sang seemed like a bad one- is out today- it's going to be hard to promote the album and avoid the Dreamgirls mentions.
And I doubt she will address it since in her 90's autobiography she called Florence a ballard a drunk and all kind of things- Florence's family was so outraged they went on TV bashing Diana for talking about their mother in such a bad way.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 17, 2007 11:34:04 GMT -5
#1 again.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 23, 2007 11:35:36 GMT -5
HITS:
CHART WATCH: It’s looking like a bad day for Dreamgirls. Not only did it lose out on a Best Picture nod at today’s Oscar nominations, but it appears the soundtrack album is about to be unseated at #1 by American Idol rocker Daughtry, whose RCA album appears to have leapfrogged it into the top spot. But that’s not the only news at the top of the chart. Thanks to her appearance on Oprah last week, Capitol Best New Artist Grammy nominee Corinne Bailey Rae will crash the Top 5, with an impressive gain which could double her sales of last week. As always, keep checking HITS’ building album chart to follow the action. (1/23a)
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Post by d.t.m on Jan 23, 2007 12:27:39 GMT -5
Diana Ross was on Regis and Kelly and said she is going to be on American Idol mentoring a theme night. Not a word was mentioned about "Dreamgirls." Her new CD- I love you- which are covers and the song she sang seemed like a bad one- is out today- it's going to be hard to promote the album and avoid the Dreamgirls mentions. And I doubt she will address it since in her 90's autobiography she called Florence a ballard a drunk and all kind of things- Florence's family was so outraged they went on TV bashing Diana for talking about their mother in such a bad way. Yes, but Florence's sister, who is about to release a book about the ex-Supreme, not only defends Ross, but makes it clear that she isn't in agreement with select disgruntled family members after all that Ross has and continues to do for them financially behind closed doors. Even after the TV fiasco, Ross still contributed to the family and set up trust funds for Flo's daughters contrary to popular belief, but it still wouldn't hurt Ross to be more vocal about the positive side of Flo's legacy in the press after all these years.
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