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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 13:43:45 GMT -5
her reputation wasnt tainted i just think if they are going to tell her story do it right. Use her music, tell the story the way it should be told. The movie only damaged those in it currently not Aaliyah.
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Post by allow that on Nov 19, 2014 14:01:06 GMT -5
Yes keep justifying your salacious appetite for tabloid drama by telling yourself you knew Aaliyah so well that her life is summed up by playing tiddlywinks with her cousins and telling yo mama jokes. Tiddlywinks might be what ling ling do but that is none of my business. :kii:
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 19, 2014 14:03:36 GMT -5
Yes keep justifying your salacious appetite for tabloid drama by telling yourself you knew Aaliyah so well that her life is summed up by playing tiddlywinks with her cousins and telling yo mama jokes. Tiddlywinks might be what ling ling do but that is none of my business. I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Because the vast majority of people don't want to see a movie about Aaliyah playing tiddlywinks with her cousins growing up. A movie with Aaliyah telling Missy "yo mama" jokes in the studio? Puhlease. People want drama, conflict, scandal, catharsis in their biopics. [/quote Salacious? LMAO. And clearly I was being sarcastic about the tiddlywinks and yo mama jokes. Hell, maybe I'm overly cynical... who knows. But you're being naive if you think anyone wants to watch a biopic about a nice person being angelic and doing nothing but pleasant things. What world are you living in? Also incredibly naive to think that a biopic isn't going to deal with the more scandalous, well-known aspects of a person's life. Better yet, let's make a Rihanna movie with no mention of Chris Brown. Let's make a Michael Jackson movie with no mention of his plastic surgery and child molestation allegations. Let's make a Whitney movie and mention none of her drug use and ultimate downfall. Let's make a James Dean movie and not deal with the fact that he was a repressed homosexual and died in a horrible car accident. Let's make whitewashed, boring, dishonest movies about everyone! Of course the movie was garbage, it was ALWAYS going to be garbage. The minute Lifetime became involved. As for the family not being involved? They were never going to be, because they refuse to be honest and her estate is in a perpetual state of MESS. The fact that they were against it doesn't bother me at all. Aaliyah is just a celebrity like hundreds of other celebrities that had a sh*tty movie made about them. Which is why none of this is a big deal to me. If anything else, it's put her on people's minds once again and got people in her corner. What they f**k are we debating about again?
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Post by allow that on Nov 19, 2014 14:08:15 GMT -5
But you're being naive if you think anyone wants to watch a biopic about a nice person being angelic and doing nothing but pleasant things. I don't see anyone saying that though...
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 19, 2014 14:16:51 GMT -5
But you're being naive if you think anyone wants to watch a biopic about a nice person being angelic and doing nothing but pleasant things. I don't see anyone saying that though... You said it yourself, "who was Wendy to drag the R. Kelly skeleton out of the closet?" That's what started this entire argument. Of course the R. Kelly incident was going to be addressed. How could it not be? Not only from an origin story standpoint and the production of her first album, but obviously her scandalous teenage marriage. Anything else would be completely dishonest and whitewashed. What do you want? A movie that completely skips that chapter and just focuses on Aaliyah being a saint?
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Post by allow that on Nov 19, 2014 14:23:57 GMT -5
I don't see anyone saying that though... You said it yourself, "who was Wendy to drag the R. Kelly skeleton out of the closet?" That's what started this entire argument. Of course the R. Kelly incident was going to be addressed. How could it not be? Not only from an origin story standpoint and the production of her first album, but obviously her scandalous teenage marriage. Anything else would be completely dishonest and whitewashed. What do you want? A movie that completely skips that chapter and just focuses on Aaliyah being a saint? Where do my words you quote say I want to see her sitting around and playing whatever the fuck twiddlytwinks is though? This has turned into a movie ABOUT an R. Kelly scandal rather than a movie that chronicles Aaliyah's life and career. Address it, sure, but then shove it under the carpet and continue telling Aaliyah's story. She left that period of her life in the dust and only two years later dropped an album launching an era much more successful than her Kelly-plagued debut. She shaped the face of late 90's R&B and put Timbaland and Missy on the map; does that happen without a compelling story to go along with it??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 14:26:54 GMT -5
I don't think anyone means that the R. Kelly marriage should be ignored or glamorized. I think the sentiment is that it was kind of gross how Wendy's movie retold that story like it some great lost love. To me, the Lifetime depiction of that story was a lot more dishonest and glamorized than the real story would be.
I agree that Aaliyah's estate will probably never (or at least not now) be open to telling an honest, raw look at her life. But the solution to that isn't to make some cheap bulls**t ass movie against their wishes that makes a script out of her Wikipedia page. It might be to just not make a movie unless you can make it like it needs to be.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 19, 2014 14:40:14 GMT -5
Were we watching the same movie? The R. Kelly part wasn't even overly intrusive? Meeting her, producing her album, their marriage? Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but you're acting like it took up the whole movie. It was definitely badly written and terribly cast/acted, but that's not even an argument at this point.
And the film addressed her avoiding a sophomore slump, as a matter a fact, that was verbalized numerous times through really horrendous dialogue. It also showed her desire to work with Missy and Tim and putting them on the map. But that stuff isn't compelling enough to take up a huge chunk of screen time.
Aaliyah's life is better suited to a documentary than an actual film IMO. Biopics are about a journey, not everyday life. Here's Aaliyah in the studio, here's Aaliyah at TRL, here's Aaliyah at a party with Damon Dash. Those things can take up screentime to help build character, but they don't make a particularly fascinating film. And Aaliyah changing the face of R&B in the late 90's is a soundbite, it's not something that's filmable. How exactly would they film Aaliyah changing the face of R&B?
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Post by Ling-Ling on Nov 19, 2014 14:52:20 GMT -5
I don't think anyone means that the R. Kelly marriage should be ignored or glamorized. I think the sentiment is that it was kind of gross how Wendy's movie retold that story like it some great lost love. To me, the Lifetime depiction of that story was a lot more dishonest and glamorized than the real story would be. I agree that Aaliyah's estate will probably never (or at least not now) be open to telling an honest, raw look at her life. But the solution to that isn't to make some cheap bulls**t ass movie against their wishes that makes a script out of her Wikipedia page. It might be to just not make a movie unless you can make it like it needs to be. I agree, but that's just not reality. Which is why it doesn't upset me. Look at all the hideous biopics Lifetime has released recently without ANY involvement from the stars or their estates... Donatella Versace, Anna Nicole Smith, Whitney Houston (this of course will suck and her family has been publicly against it) and Brittany Murphy. And those are just off the top of my head. I think the gist of my original argument was that it's just not that big a deal because it happens to tons of celebrities at some point. And some people were acting so over-dramatic like it was the end of the world. When it's not even a blip on the radar. A wasted opportunity? Obviously. But something to get your panties in twist over? Certainly not.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Nov 19, 2014 17:02:21 GMT -5
I like the Brittany murphy one, it was funny. that Alicia Silverstone wig is legendary
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Post by newpower on Nov 28, 2014 13:07:27 GMT -5
I got the Aaliyah vinyl today. Very nice white vinyl, includes 'The Thing I Like', an international bonus track I was not aware of.
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Post by MiniMusic on Dec 19, 2014 20:50:38 GMT -5
Her last album was just absolute perfection. Like I will literally never get over how timeless and perfect it is. "We Need a Resolution" is something that gives me life.
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 19, 2014 21:23:44 GMT -5
Her last album was just absolute perfection. Like I will literally never get over how timeless and perfect it is. "We Need a Resolution" is something that gives me life. I still don't feel I've yet to hear another R&B album quite like it.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Dec 20, 2014 9:00:55 GMT -5
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Post by Call Me Crazy on Dec 20, 2014 9:17:15 GMT -5
Can anyone please tell me where I can get Aaliyah's music? I'm a little on the young side so I missed purchasing all her albums before they became out of print.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by George on Dec 20, 2014 21:36:47 GMT -5
Can anyone please tell me where I can get Aaliyah's music? I'm a little on the young side so I missed purchasing all her albums before they became out of print. Thanks in advance. Her debut is available on iTunes and other digital outlets, plus you can probably find a physical copy for like $5 at Best Buy/Walmart. It'd be best to just get used copies of "One in a Million" "Aaliyah" and the compilation "I Care 4 U" and rip them since her fam has them LOCKED from digital outlets in the US. people.half.ebay.com/Aaliyah_W0QQmZmusicQQcidZ14128423357Digital has "One in a Million" and "I Care 4 U" but they're UK-based. www.7digital.com/artist/aaliyah/
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Post by MiniMusic on Dec 21, 2014 1:19:44 GMT -5
Why are they locked?
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Dec 21, 2014 15:51:38 GMT -5
Can anyone please tell me where I can get Aaliyah's music? I'm a little on the young side so I missed purchasing all her albums before they became out of print. Thanks in advance. All the pieces in my Aaliyah collection I bought on eBay and at www.discogs.com and I have every album on CD, AALIYAH & ONE IN A MILLION on vinyls and all the singles, various magazines + two autographs, and signed copy on AANBAN CD, so when you're lucky you can get whatever you want there :) .
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Post by Ginger Spice on Dec 21, 2014 23:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by allow that on Jan 6, 2015 14:06:25 GMT -5
Sam Sparro just released a cover of "Rock The Boat."
https%3A//soundcloud.com/sam-sparro/rock-the-boat
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 6, 2015 15:58:59 GMT -5
^I can't wait to check that out later! I love me some Sam Sparro
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Post by die Lotterie on Jan 6, 2015 20:13:00 GMT -5
I'm a for sure a fan of that. Holy shit, Sam!
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 14, 2015 23:18:53 GMT -5
Now THAT is how you cover a song! Well done Sam Sparro *claps*
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Post by allow that on Jan 16, 2015 16:06:58 GMT -5
Today would have been Aaliyah's 36th birthday.
Quite staggering to type out "36th." It's difficult to imagine her as a woman in her mid/late 30's but I have no doubt that she'd have made the transition into adult star gracefully and meaningfully.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jan 16, 2015 16:39:47 GMT -5
Jan 16th is my Aaliyah day ever since I was 12, but I prefer not to think 2 much about her future she was robbed from. Rashad posted this today... I won't let my imagination go wild about these new thing his talking about... So far, they uploaded the entire MTV Diary in HQ on youtube... Thank you to MTV for a beautiful production. We love you Baby Girl, we miss you!
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Post by think pink. on Jan 16, 2015 19:36:05 GMT -5
I'll just never get over her death.
Happy Birthday Baby Girl ♥
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jan 18, 2015 12:06:42 GMT -5
COMPLEX uploaded this RARE footage in HD
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 12:18:32 GMT -5
I'm curious what her family has planned for this year since they seem so against releasing new material and anyone profiting off her.
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 19, 2015 14:53:13 GMT -5
I was watched all her One in a Million videos the other night as well as some interviews for Romeo Must Die/self-titled album.
All I could think of was that she has "it," whatever "it" is. Something about her just made you want to watch her, learn more, be her best friend, and build hype for whatever she was working on without being contrived. She just had this mature attitude and star quality lacking in so many others both back then and today. There will never be another like her, RIP.
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