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Post by tearsdryontheirown on Dec 29, 2010 7:56:01 GMT -5
Not every artist enjoys playing large venues. Some like intimate settings. Not everything is an economical decision. The logic is simple - she likes small venues. It can't be any more logical.
People know she will be late. Everybody knows that. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation. It is what it is. People are paying to see her, and she is making a comeback. It's not as though she doesn't ever show up and sometimes is on time. She is always late and always performs.
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Post by mikeshere on Dec 29, 2010 11:20:54 GMT -5
Does all this performing mean we MIGHT be gettin a single next year??
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Post by JenkseyArt on Dec 29, 2010 13:15:59 GMT -5
I hope so.
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 29, 2010 16:31:15 GMT -5
She's recording a cover for the soundtrack to the Florence Ballard biopic that Faith Evans is starring in; Faith's executive producing the soundtrack and personally asked Lauryn to cover a Supremes track.
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Post by chiguy2006 on Dec 29, 2010 21:35:59 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 29, 2010 21:40:26 GMT -5
She needs to get it together and hit the studio. Please Lauryn!
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Post by grouper6 on Dec 30, 2010 7:23:58 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the clips of this show but I have for Vermount, Ct and Boston. With the voice she has left, she still can create a very good studio album. However, her unexplained cotinuous lateness is a mess! She needs to stop that as that is not a good look but I'd still see her though!
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Post by grouper6 on Dec 30, 2010 7:27:25 GMT -5
Not every artist enjoys playing large venues. Some like intimate settings. Not everything is an economical decision. The logic is simple - she likes small venues. It can't be any more logical. People know she will be late. Everybody knows that. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation. It is what it is. People are paying to see her, and she is making a comeback. It's not as though she doesn't ever show up and sometimes is on time. She is always late and always performs. While the type of venue she chooses is her choice I'm just saying it would save wear and tear on her voice which does have the tendancy to go hoarse but it's her choice. HOWEVER, it absolutely is a problem with her being late as I know someone who saw her at the Rock da Bells concert in MD/DC and many, many people were very upset with her lateness this summer as people continue to be as witnessed in every single review for the last 2 wks. If someone is paying and the time says a certain time being 2-3hrs late is inexcusable everytime for no reason and no, everyone does not know she will be late. I've read all the reviews and in everyone, many, many people were upset and it does affect the atmosphere. Did you not read where people were throwing stuff on stage and booing? Love Lauryn but that lateness is ridiculous!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2010 9:12:20 GMT -5
Sorry but no performer has a "right" to be late to their shows. Now and then if there is an unforeseen circumstance then fine but Lauryn has a reputation for being hours late to shows
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Post by chiguy2006 on Dec 30, 2010 10:44:40 GMT -5
Wall Street Journal Review of her Brooklyn Showonline.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203525404576049772165490858.htmlOn the Road Again, Lauryn Hill Rebuilds Her Brand By Martin Johnson Since her emergence with the Fugees in 1993, there have been two distinct phases to Lauryn Hill's career. For the first nine years, she was a riveting performer, her raps combining intelligent wordplay, vehement delivery and clear diction, often accompanied by her own singing in a compelling, low alto. Since 2002, however, she has often been an indifferent performer, known for incorrigible lateness and apathetic vocals. Ms. Hill's concert Tuesday night at the Music Hall of Williamsburg functioned as a career retrospective, leading with her worst tendencies and finishing with a strong performance. Despite an announced 8:30 p.m. showtime and no opening act, by midnight Ms. Hill still had not appeared. The crowd began to hiss and boo, throwing cups at the stage, leading one keyboardist to post a sign that read "I was on time." When Ms. Hill, 35, finally appeared, at 12:05 a.m., she was met by a smattering of cheers and a chorus of boos. She confronted the crowd by saying "you are always free to go ask for your money back." The opening song was a rendition of "Forever Loving Jah," a lilting Bob Marley classic. The band was a sprawling mess of duplication, with three keyboardists, three guitarists, bass, drums and DJ—none of whom were introduced by Ms. Hill during the show. But it added muscle and variety to the music and grew tighter as the 105-minute performance progressed. Ms. Hill's repertoire included several of her best-known Fugee tracks (including Fu-Gee-La," "Ready or Not" and Roberta Flack's "Killing Me Softly With His Song"), as well as tracks from her 1998 solo album "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill," such as "Zion," "When It Hurts So Bad" and "DooWop." Several of the songs from "Miseducation" were substantially reworked, but Ms. Hill's energetic delivery enabled the crowd to find familiar segments to embrace. With her intelligence, street savvy and classic glamour, Ms. Hill created enormous expectations for herself, and she has spoken at length about her attempts to shake free of them, notably on her 2002 release, "MTV Unplugged 2.0" (Columbia), a rambling mess of a show comprised largely of unfinished songs backed only by acoustic guitar. In the process of discarding the responsibilities of fame, Ms. Hill also appeared to shed her musical values. Her singing on that recording was ragged, and reports from many subsequent shows suggested little improvement. Halfway through her set on Tuesday, it seemed clear that she has renewed her enthusiasm for the music on which she built her reputation. At one point, during "Ready or Not," as she sang the lyric "I'm going to make you want me," Ms. Hill's eyes flashed as if in recognition of how appropriate the statement was for the concert. From that point forward, she repeatedly apologized for her tardiness and thanked the crowd for its patience. Tuesday's highly anticipated show was the first of Ms. Hill's five appearances around the city during the next week, and the start of a national tour. If she can rein in her recent excesses, this could mark yet another turning point in her career. But she will have to work to rebuild her bond with her audience. After the show, the chatter was less about the elation of a cathartic performance and more about the relief that an evening and $75 had not gone to waste. —Mr. Johnson writes about music for the Journal.
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Post by Caviar on Dec 30, 2010 13:22:14 GMT -5
Amazing review. :)
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Post by K. on Dec 30, 2010 13:26:27 GMT -5
If she came that late to a show I was at I would totally call her out from the audience. She's a pretty big deal, and I love her, but that type of behavior is just unacceptable from anyone. That's how she treats her fans who trekked through the worst blizzard in the past ten years to see her? What a pretentious b***h.
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Post by cjay on Dec 30, 2010 13:43:34 GMT -5
If she came that late to a show I was at I would totally call her out from the audience. She's a pretty big deal, and I love her, but that type of behavior is just unacceptable from anyone. That's how she treats her fans who trekked through the worst blizzard in the past ten years to see her? What a pretentious b***h. THIS!!!! My friend asked me last night if I was going to see her tour. I had mixed emotions after her behavior and horrible vocal performance at the MD/DC Rock the Bells. Anyway, I told my friend that I will wait to receive reviews. Ive confirmed that I will NOT be going. I can understand a 30-45 minute delay. But 3+ hours-gurl please.
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Post by JenkseyArt on Dec 30, 2010 13:57:32 GMT -5
LOL.... I love Lauryn Hill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2010 14:06:51 GMT -5
3 to 4 hours late is absolutely ridiculous. People should be allowed to walk out with a refund. Thats completely unprofessional and she does that kind of thing all the time. People like to act like Lauryn is some tortured soul who the public demanded too much from and thats why she hardly makes appearances or releases new music. I think shes just pretentious and full of herself. Demanding to be called Miss Hill or Miss Lauryn Hill, showing up 3-4 hours late to her shows, charging obscene amounts of money for photograph prints of herself on her website, and the same thing for limited access to performances she recorded of herself. She is one of the biggest divas of them all
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Post by cjay on Dec 30, 2010 14:19:16 GMT -5
and if she keeps pulling these stunts, she can kiss a BIG comeback GOODBYE!
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 30, 2010 22:56:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't care how amazing you are, no performer is worth waiting 3-4 hours PAST the scheduled opening time for.
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Post by chiguy2006 on Jan 1, 2011 4:13:22 GMT -5
A couple pics from Lauryn's New Year's Show just a few hours ago at The Gansevoort in NYC:
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Post by mikeshere on Jan 1, 2011 13:54:17 GMT -5
Get it together bitch..
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Post by tamed09 on Jan 1, 2011 15:19:31 GMT -5
If you go to the show knowing about Lauryn's time circumstances then why complain? That wouldn't make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 16:55:57 GMT -5
If you go to the show knowing about Lauryn's time circumstances then why complain? That wouldn't make sense. You assume everybody who buys tickets to her shows knows and expects that she is going to show up 3-4 hours late
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Post by chiguy2006 on Jan 1, 2011 18:15:40 GMT -5
This is from another Lauryn Hill message board: Sounds like Lauryn really pulled it out the bag last night (New Year's show at The Gansevoort in NYC). Everyone is raving about the performance. Hope she maintains the momentum (and is ON TIME!) for tonight's show at the Bowery Ballroom. Maybe the controversy at the Brooklyn show gave her the kick she needed.... Some tweets: @yolanda_renee: And S/O to L-Boogie... She was on FIRE last night. Great way to start the year. And welcome to my new Gansevoort followers @mattimaticus: @gansevoortpark amazing new years eve with Lauryn Hill at the hotel G on Park. @alexanderallen: O-N-E QUESTION: "How you gonna win when you aint right within?" - LAURYN HILL HHHOOOWWW?! #SH!TTED! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! @happy1ne: Saw Lauryn Hill perform live. Can't complain. Its been a good night so far..... @supalaura: LAURYN HILL now on stage @ Gansevoort Hotel Park Avenue !!! AMAZING !!! Happy New Year !!! @claudiajordan: Lauryn Hill is on stage killin it! I was a sophomore in h.s. when Miseducation came out, hell of a year for hip hop when you think about it @claudiajordan: Glad to report #LaurynHill absolutely killed it last night! #GansevoortParkAveNYE A couple more pics:
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Post by tamed09 on Jan 1, 2011 18:20:01 GMT -5
If you go to the show knowing about Lauryn's time circumstances then why complain? That wouldn't make sense. You assume everybody who buys tickets to her shows knows and expects that she is going to show up 3-4 hours late You assume they don't AND WHAT? I was talking about people in the thread
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 18:29:59 GMT -5
Somebody needs to chill. You always copping attitude. Okayyyy. If you are going to get that pissed with your capital letters because someone doesnt understand what you're saying maybe you should say what you mean the first time
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Post by tamed09 on Jan 1, 2011 21:46:45 GMT -5
I'm am Chill
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Post by chiguy2006 on Jan 2, 2011 20:39:49 GMT -5
A review from someone in attendance at Lauryn's show last night at The Bowery Ballroom (NYC) - You can click the link directly under the title of the review to go to the original blog article. L. Boogie Does The Bowerythedrakespot.blogspot.com/2011/01/l-boogie-does-bowery.htmlMiss Lauryn Hill played the classics last night at the Bowery Ballroom, my favorite venue in Manhattan, and left no song unsung and no ear drum, un-blown. I have NEVER been to a show with that much energy and raw emotion. Every single person in the audience was going through an emotional experience listening to her. Let's just say she's still got it. Lauryn stripped down each song on her legendary No. 1 album,The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, including "Lost One", "Do-Wop (That Thing)" and my favorite "Ex-Factor", and played a few do-wop and Bob Marley covers. Not to mention, she pulled out a few Fugee tunes that absolutely turned the place on its ass. She has immeasurable talent that, once witnessed, makes one think about the pathetic, disgraceful state the entertainment industry is in these days. To sum it up, Rihanna ain't got s**t on her. Watching her direct the band as she slides through her riffs and freestyles is something of the greats. Ms. Hill sang a heart-melting Happy Birthday to her daughter Selah (a must hear track, too, by the way) who was in attendance in the balcony with the rest of her children, including Zion, another track she absolutely sang her life into. Sure, some may say the years may not have been kind to her looks or style, but her voice is an indisputable gift from God, not to be denied or taken lightly. P.S.: Lauryn didn't hit the stage until 12:30AM and played until 2:45AM, after the venue posted she was to begin at 11:30PM. P.P.S: The tickets said 8PM.
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Post by pgs71991 on Jan 3, 2011 8:20:21 GMT -5
I saw her perform at my campus' homecoming. Her fans loved her but the general population didn't know who she was and thought she sucked
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Post by chiguy2006 on Jan 3, 2011 12:48:50 GMT -5
I came across this interesting retrospective. Good read.. The link to the source of the article is provided directly under the title. The Re-Education of Lauryn Hill Fans: Lauryn Hill Owes You Nothingwww.flyblackchick.com/2011/01/02/the-re-education-of-lauryn-hill-fans-lauryn-hill-owes-you-nothing/Before Lauryn Hill, was “Lauryn Hill”, she caught my attention as Kira Johnson, the name of her character on As The World Turns, she was one of the few black faces in a slew of white soap opera characters on television. I took notice of her then, not because I was a soap addict, I actually didn’t like soaps, but because she was a young black girl that grew up not to far from my neighborhood. Whether people realize it or not, since that time, Lauryn Hill has practically grown up in the public’s eye and under a microscope. With the Fugees first album, Blunted on Reality, I immediately became enthralled by this chick with the raspy voice and a cadence of her own. Although, most people probably can’t remember one song from Blunted on Reality, till this day, I remember practically every word. It wasn’t until the Fugees second album, The Score, that more people took notice of the gift that Lauryn Hill was given. Sure, the group was a “trio”, but in my mind it was Lauryn Hill that stood out and was catalyst. Without Lauryn, you’d just have Wyclef yodeling & Pras standing somewhere in the background, doing whatever it was that Pras did. After my first Fugees show, I left thinking to myself, “I can’t wait for her to drop those two and go solo”. Eventually, in 1998, she gave birth to The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. Miseducation quickly became every black girl’s story. A holy grail of sorts. Every story, every verse, every bar she dropped, although it was Lauryn’s story, also became everyone else’s story as well. Magazine covers, tour dates, music awards and $25million in record sales later, words like “influential” were used to describe this black girl from Jersey. Could I relate to some of the songs? Sure, but I also realized then, that her music was more about her own experiences. If she didn’t realize it then, I’m sure she realized it during her ‘hiatus’ that unfortunately, there were strangers, people that she would never meet, seemingly depending on her to give them more of her. I’m not sure if it’s safe to say, with every rise there’s a fall, when speaking about Lauryn Hill. If the definition of fall is writing music, like her unplugged album, because it’s something that she felt needed to be said, even though everyone may not “get it” or if the definition of “fall” is starting a family and taking care of your children, then more people should be “falling” instead of ranting & raving about Lauryn Hill on the internet. This past summer, I stood in the heat during the Rock The Bells tour when it came to Columbia, MD, anticipating Lauryn Hill’s performance. A few minutes before her start time, I was speaking with the organizers from Guerilla Union, and it wasn’t looking good. As quick as her set was put up. Her set was taken down. Peter Rosenberg, from Hot 97, amongst boos & heckling from the audience, took the stage to reassure people that the show would be going on. Unfortunately, the natives were restless & weren’t trying to hear that. All I could do was take a few sips from my water bottle, sit back down at the foot of the stage and wait. And wait. And wait. Eventually, her set was back up, the band was on stage, and she came out. Her set was like the movie, fast & furious. The “classics” from Miseducation were more up tempo and nothing like the original arrangements. Was I disappointed? No. Did I feel jipped? No. Do I realize that an artists art may change over time? Yes. It’s their art. Like Bobby Brown used to say, “It’s (their) my prerogative”. Fast forward months later. A different stage, a different show. Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Days after a blizzard. The crowd is impatient. Lauryn Hill is late. The New York Times reports that the singer was due to hit the stage at the Music Hall of Williamsburg at 8pm but did not show up until after midnight. I could only imagine the boos & disgruntled people standing and waiting. Because, I’ve been one of those people standing and waiting. People held up signs, that read, “You Just Lost One” and “This Is Insulting”. Even her keyboard player had one taped to his keyboard saying, “I was on time”, which was rightfully torn down by Lauryn after her first song. Lauryn Hill apologized for being late, some people feel that the following statement she made was a brush off, but would they have been happier if she said nothing at all? No, people would have complained regardless. People love to complain. “I spent my entire 20s sacrificing my life to give you love. So when I hear people complain, I don’t know what to tell you. I personally know I’m worth the wait”, she told the crowd. To the keyboard player she gave these words of advice, “you trying to escape the bottles and the cups. Next time you take it, you take it like a man. We in this together, brother”. For the complainers, I’m truly confused as to what they’re asking from her. Do you want her 6th born? Her blood? A lock of her hair? Do you expect after 12 years that an artist doesn’t change? If you read review after review about her lateness and you still pay $75 for a ticket, are you only going to see if she shows up, or are you going so that you can appreciate her music, regardless if it’s of a faster tempo? Have you ever thought about why there’s lateness from her? Being a performer with her kids in tow, I’m sure there’s countless issues that can come up. Did people fail to realize there was about 3 ft of snow in Brooklyn and New Jersey? Lauryn Hill owes you nothing. Lauryn Hill wrote Miseducation as therapy for herself. She didn’t have any one else in mind. Too often people take it upon themselves, to idolize an artist, when they’re only human and have their fair share of issues just like anyone else. Just like my friend Danielle said today, “You all sound like a bunch of jilted lovers”. If you need someone to write a new story so you can relate it to your life, you’re probably better off doing it on your own. Lateness happens. Shit happens. Chances are, you’ve probably been to work numerous times. Go ahead & lie and say you haven’t. Also, try clowning your “boss” on their lateness with a sign saying “you were on time”. Yeah, that’ll go over well. In the meantime, some of you need to get over yourselves, and hold on to the memories of why you fell in love with an artist from the start, because god forbid they actually change or show you who they truly are.
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Post by K. on Jan 3, 2011 14:20:03 GMT -5
Lol at comparing an artist being on time to an artist giving a fan her 6th born child. Breaking news to Lauryn: every other professional artist and professional in general does it every day. "We in this together, brother." Um, no, you weren't the one getting bottles thrown at you... Girl needs to get her ego in check fast.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Jan 3, 2011 17:42:36 GMT -5
That article went from cool to hella stupid fast.
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