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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2004 14:34:59 GMT -5
Mary is going back into the studio soon to being work on her seventh studio LP which will be out around August. So far, we know that she dumped P. Diddy from the executive producer's chair. She's going to be getting out of the early 90's hip-hop mode and go back to doing the classic songs and writing the lyrics that set her apart from her peers.
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Post by bluenote on Dec 16, 2004 14:41:08 GMT -5
i liked "love and life" and i think i really liked it better than her last 2 albums. its hard to say though because I believe all of her albums have some really good high lights to them even if I dont like the album in its entirety. but i think "love and life" was th 1st Mary J. album in a while where i enjoyed the majority of it instead of just skipping around to the highlights.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2004 14:45:57 GMT -5
I think Love & Life was way better than No More Drama, but they both had their fair share of filler. No More Drama had a lot of senseless hip-hop that ran together and Love & Life had some really weak nonsensical use of samples. The Mary album, while not my favorite, is her most artistically rewarding album. She hasn't described much of the direction of this album but I know she wants to do away with the early 90's sampling sound of Love & Life and not have as many songs about dancing as No More Drama had. I'm pretty sure this album will be more along the lines of an updated Share My World or Mary.
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Post by jlh527 on Dec 16, 2004 14:55:12 GMT -5
I think Love & Life was way better than No More Drama, but they both had their fair share of filler. No More Drama had a lot of senseless hip-hop that ran together and Love & Life had some really weak nonsensical use of samples. The Mary album, while not my favorite, is her most artistically rewarding album. She hasn't described much of the direction of this album but I know she wants to do away with the early 90's sampling sound of Love & Life and not have as many songs about dancing as No More Drama had. I'm pretty sure this album will be more along the lines of an updated Share My World or Mary. I pray that it's a new MJB classic, because her last two efforts sucked big-time and I'm a MJB die-hard. |
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Post by FADE AWAY on Dec 17, 2004 23:11:34 GMT -5
The Mary album, while not my favorite, is her most artistically rewarding album. I agree! I think NMD sucked because the hip hop beats and overall vibe drowned out the material. I like the album though. I love her rapping. "I aint tha same ho givin' away love fa free!" "Love and Life" wasn't bad IMO. It just didn't live up to the hype of those foolish comparisons to "My Life" and "What's the 411?" The samples killed it for me. (BTW why didn't you direct me to this thread?!) Lets see... Mary Jane and Kendoobie just celebrated their first year of marriage! Both of Mary's dvds are in stores! There is supposed to be a remake of LL Cool Jay's "I Need Love" with Jay Z that has been surfacing on some mixtapes. Her messy remake of "Best of My Love" can be purchased online! Her messy remake of "Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word" can be found on that Bridget Jones bitch's soundtrack. She'll make an appearance on former Da Band member, Babs' album which comes out sometime next spring. Go J. Blige!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Ling-Ling on Dec 17, 2004 23:29:16 GMT -5
Mary J. Blige has yet to make a bad album IMO. Love & Life was overproduced in places, but was solid. The original version of No More Drama had some saggy spots, but the re-released version fixed those. She's definately one of our more consistent artists.
As for which direction I want her to go in for this one, I hope she goes the straight soul route again like she did on Mary. That album is classic. Easily her best.
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Post by MikeCheck12 on Dec 18, 2004 10:09:38 GMT -5
I love Mary!!
"Mary" was a great album, but I think my favorite was actually "My Life". The lyrics were pretty deep and introspective and she poured out alot of raw emotion on that record.
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Post by Nick on Dec 18, 2004 10:14:56 GMT -5
She needs a Greatest Hits album by now.
Wasn't there one planned?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2004 10:55:57 GMT -5
She needs a Greatest Hits album by now. Wasn't there one planned? Now that Matthew Knowles is managing Mary, he's trying to bring her back to radio, not put a nail in her coffin. For anyone that's interested in hearing and seeing the hits, Mary released two excellent DVDs this fall.   |
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Post by Nick on Dec 18, 2004 10:59:49 GMT -5
Hmmm. I don't see a Hits collection as the end of a career.
Sure, it can be when an artist is dropped from their label.
I think she's had a lot of hits, and it's time for one. She can always have 2 or 3 new songs on it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2004 11:01:02 GMT -5
Releasing a greatest hits after your biggest commercial failure is the nail in one's own career. It's like saying "Oh well.. my last album didn't do so hot so now I'll just throw out a greatest hits album before people lose interest in me." I think it's much more important that she get back to making hits this year. Mr. Knowles has been doing a fantastic job so far.
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Post by Bob on Dec 18, 2004 17:44:26 GMT -5
josh has a good point about greatest hits mary needs to do another "my life" or "mary" album-- one that doesnt necessarily have big hits, but still sells well b/c the songs are awesome album tracks and have MEANING and fresh vocals, etc etc... not another "no more drama" which was all hits w/ no content, or "love & life" which had neither  |
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Dec 18, 2004 18:14:25 GMT -5
Releasing a greatest hits after your biggest commercial failure is the nail in one's own career. It's like saying "Oh well.. my last album didn't do so hot so now I'll just throw out a greatest hits album before people lose interest in me." I think it's much more important that she get back to making hits this year. Mr. Knowles has been doing a fantastic job so far. Worked for Lenny Kravitz. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2004 6:07:08 GMT -5
Worked for Lenny Kravitz. Huh? The 5 album was a comeback for him. None of the Circus singles charted at CHR/Pop and then he got himself a Top 10 hit and two more pop hits from 5. "Fly Away" is one of his biggest hits. I don't think Love & Life and 5 are the same situation. |
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Post by bluenote on Dec 19, 2004 9:30:53 GMT -5
why the hell is Mathew Knowles managing her? When did this happen? What happened to her husband being her manager?
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Post by Me. I Am Justin... on Dec 21, 2004 15:00:20 GMT -5
After seeing the Fantasia thread temporarily turn into a Mary J. Blige discussion, I just wanna say that I'm really anticipating this new album.
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Post by FADE AWAY on Dec 21, 2004 20:34:06 GMT -5
why the hell is Mathew Knowles managing her? When did this happen? What happened to her husband being her manager? He was pretty much the tour manager, and he comes up with some of the ideas, (like Mary TV) but for the mostpart, he has no major title. Mary left Kirk Burrowes sometime at the end of last year, or the beginning of this year, and she started being managed by Sanctuary (Matthew Knowles' company). Since she got with them, she's been doing about as much as--if not more-- promotion that she did when her album was out. Mary's on her way to becoming the middle-aged Beyonce! UH OH UH OH UH OH OH-NO-NO NO MORE NO MORE NO MOOOOOOOOO---OOOOOOH WHOOOA NO MORE DRAMA YEAH YEAH YEEEEEEEAAAAAAUUUH! |
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Post by bluenote on Dec 21, 2004 20:38:21 GMT -5
Mary had excellent promotion when her album was out. That woman was EVERYWHERE! She had some of the best promotion around next to Beyonce and Britney. I had never seen Mary so mainstream before WITHOUT a major hit single lol! Thats how u know u got clout when u are all over th eplace without a single even blowing up majorly.
Oh and i thought her husband was her manager?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2004 20:41:26 GMT -5
I don't remember Mary being everywhere but I do remember "Love @ 1st Sight" having a +1200 bullet at Urban. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Post by bluenote on Dec 21, 2004 21:30:44 GMT -5
"love @1st sight" may have had a +1200 bullet at the beginning of its run but it was her lead single. what else can u expect? but it didnt match the singles off her prior album and it didnt even make the top 20 of the hot 100. I'm not even sure if it hit the top 30. I believe what I said was she didnt have a major hit single from that album and she didnt. "love @ 1st sight" "oooh" and "not today" all peaked on the Hot 100 close to each to each other within the 30's-40's range. i dont feel like looking up the exact peak positions but i'm sure u will.
The point i was making was that even WITHOUT having a hugely successful hit single like "crazy in love" or "aww baby" which were both 2 big singles out when mary dropped her 1st single, she still had excellent promotion. And most people only get that type of promoition with successful singles. Mary had good promotion throughout the entire run of her album and i was givin Mary her props for that cause not many artists can pull that off. it looked like she was doing better then she actually was with sales and singles but because she has reached such a high level of status and respect it was no bog deal if she didnt have the #1 single in the oc**try or th ebiggest selling labum
As far as her being everywhere i know I saw her on Oprah for the 1st time in her entire career, she did he Halftime show for the thanksgiving football game, she did the NFL kick off off show where Areatha and Britney also performed. I know i saw her on several late shows at various points during the run of "love and life" she also did promotion with Sting on their grammy winning song where she was also a presenter. She also performed at the VMAs for the 1st time in her career. She did alot of major events. You may not consider that to be "everywhere" and maybe its not but its damn good promotion for a urban artist without a major hit and probably her best promotion for any album thus far. And she doesnt even have an album out now and she has peformed at 4 major events: Fashion Rocks and the MOBO awards or whatever the hell its called where she performed and highlighted the show. The tribute show to Ray Charles and The Billboard Awards. And also most recently her gap commercial.
Mary is proving to be a commercial assest off her reputation and status alone without having a hit single out rght now. She doesnt need one to be in demand at any given time.
That's what i am talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2004 21:35:15 GMT -5
For the record, there were two Top 30 hits from Love & Life. What's your latest excuse for that?
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Post by bluenote on Dec 21, 2004 21:41:42 GMT -5
For the record, there were two Top 30 hits from Love & Life. What's your latest excuse for that? what are you talking about an excuse? i think you are totally missing the point of what i wrote. i believe i even said that her singles peaked within the 30-40 range on the Hot 100. All i'm saying is despite the lack of single success she is still commercially sellable and she did alot of major events ashe has NEVER done in her entire career during the run of "love and life." If u think i am implying that her singles were total flops, I am not. but they didnt meet previous singles from her last few albums so none of the singles from "love and life" are major hits at all and once again without major hits she still had the promotion of some1 who was topping the charts. |
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Post by FADE AWAY on Dec 23, 2004 14:22:33 GMT -5
Mary did waaaaaaaaaaay more promotion for "No More Drama." She didn't even do HALF of that with "Love and Life." The only difference is she had a couple of bigger spots like Oprah and the Today Show. And even with that, she did most of her appearances before the album dropped and a couple here and there after. She was a media whore for "No More Drama." She saw that one through and was everywhere to promote it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2004 14:43:01 GMT -5
what are you talking about an excuse? i think you are totally missing the point of what i wrote. i believe i even said that her singles peaked within the 30-40 range on the Hot 100. All i'm saying is despite the lack of single success she is still commercially sellable and she did alot of major events ashe has NEVER done in her entire career during the run of "love and life." If u think i am implying that her singles were total flops, I am not. but they didnt meet previous singles from her last few albums so none of the singles from "love and life" are major hits at all and once again without major hits she still had the promotion of some1 who was topping the charts. This argument always annoys me because the Love & Life singles did as well as Mary always does. No More Drama was a fluke crossover success. |
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Post by FADE AWAY on Dec 23, 2004 16:35:32 GMT -5
This argument always annoys me because the Love & Life singles did as well as Mary always does. No More Drama was a fluke crossover success. :yes: |
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Post by allow that on Dec 23, 2004 17:39:30 GMT -5
This argument always annoys me because the Love & Life singles did as well as Mary always does. No More Drama was a fluke crossover success. This is true. Mary was never a singles artist, she was always more of an albums artist. At Urban radio ir was a different story, because Urban radio always showed love for Mary... but they showed love by consistently playing her music, not by rocketing everything she did to #1 on the charts. I remember when "Not Gon' Cry" was really taking off, the Billboard columnists all made a huge deal about how Mary was so huge but until then never had a single shooting up the Hot 100 like NGC did. The singles from Love & Life peaked just as high as should be expected for Mary J. singles. The only difference is that they lacked the longevity. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2004 19:43:31 GMT -5
Mary will be a featured hook ho on The Game's album.
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Post by Me. I Am Justin... on Dec 24, 2004 20:11:30 GMT -5
Hook Ho!!
Haha.....LOL
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Post by bluenote on Dec 25, 2004 0:06:18 GMT -5
This argument always annoys me because the Love & Life singles did as well as Mary always does. No More Drama was a fluke crossover success. After looking at all of her peak positions i see what u mean. "love @ 1st sight" and "ooh" actually did better than alot of her other singles. I guess the single success from "no more drama" over shadowed the chart positions of her other singles for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2004 19:31:11 GMT -5
Anita Baker has always been honored that Mary J. Blige got her big break singing her song, "Caught Up In The Rapture". She recently wrote a song with Mary in mind. There's no word on whether they'll duet or what will come out of this, but if timing and schedules permit, we may see an Anita penned and possibly co-produced track on Mary's next album.
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