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Post by vinyl on Jul 28, 2007 16:34:03 GMT -5
This wouldn't be so bad if she hadn't said many times that making Breakaway part 2 would be failing herself and things of that nature.
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un4gitible
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Post by un4gitible on Jul 28, 2007 16:38:44 GMT -5
I think we should hear the new cd before we label it Breakaway II.
And, I think there's a difference between coming out with similar cd's back to back, just 2 years apart and coming out with similar cd's what could be 4 years apart and with a totally different cd in between.
I mean, it's not like she put down those kind of cd's and made fun of those singers and then put out a cd chock full of those type songs (yes, Avril, I AM looking at you haha). She has never, ever said she didn't like Breakaway or the songs on it - just that she would be doing a disservice to put out Breakaway part II with the next cd. She even went on to talk about how she felt kind of silly singing SUBG now because it seems too young for her. If Breakaway part II were to be songs like BOY, Walk Away, Hear Me, Addicted and the lot, I think she might have thought differently. But a Lindsey Lohan cover? Come on! Tell me the same people crucifying My December wouldn't have been crucifying THAT even moreso?
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Post by "Raven~Symone" out now! on Jul 28, 2007 16:40:23 GMT -5
Sorry, but Kellys Paris' album was bad...alot of people just dont like it. Her writings songs arent really that good. Paris' Kelly's album got many positive reviews, and many critics thought it was better than anything Britney, Christina, or Jessica have ever released! And I believe Paris' Kelly's album is better than Kelly's Paris', and thats MY opinion as well as others. I DO deserve an opinion, your you're just close minded. Nobody can deny that Paris Kelly had some very good songs and writings on her album. Do not Label Paris as a porn star, because she is not. The tape was released with out her consent. Kelly's Paris' album is ' good' 'craptastic' , or 'dark' s**tty ...With all these "dark" "s**tty" songs, it looks like ' good porn girl playing rocker singer'! Lmmfao. Stop hatin on pimpin' Paris in a Kelly Clarkson thread. There - that reads much better! haha Lmao! That was cute. But like I said, I like Paris' album better and others agree. She's not a porn star, get over the fact that Kelly album sucked hard. She got beat by Hannah Montana! LMAO! Enjoy your copy of My December. Im not gonna be immature like you and call people sluts and whores and porn stars...
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un4gitible
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Post by un4gitible on Jul 28, 2007 16:57:04 GMT -5
Haha - actually, I don't think Paris is a porn star (even though I guess technically she is - she was in a movie having sex and it was sold for money AND she received money from it so in a way she was paid to star in it. ) I personally think she did what lots of people do and was unfortunate enough for it to leak. And I would never call her a slut or whore. How she lives her life in that aspect is of no nevermind to me, you know? I just want to make sure that I am reading that right - Anyone who comes in with less cd's sold in the first week than Hannah Montana should be embarrassed or whatever? It's laughable and it makes their cd bad, is that correct? I personally think that Mandy Moore's cd is great - but has it even hit 50k in sales yet? I guess I don't judge the quality of a cd by sales - and since that sold WAY less than Hannah Montana in it's first week, I guess it's not a good cd after all. :( Isn't Hannah/Miley in like the top 6 or 7 for first week sales for all of 2007? That makes for a lot of LMAO cd's out there. Anywho - not all of Kelly's fans will like My December. It's aight. It happens. Alot of those that liked Breakaway didn't like Thankful either. Who knows what the next cd will bring. Maybe it will be more to your taste.
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Post by desertflower on Jul 28, 2007 17:14:13 GMT -5
mmmm...how many albums did Paris end up selling? I seem to recall not much.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jul 28, 2007 17:16:18 GMT -5
The next person to mention Paris in this thread is getting an official warning. Drop it and move on. This is not a Paris thread or a Paris Vs Kelly bitchfight.
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Post by "Raven~Symone" out now! on Jul 28, 2007 17:17:06 GMT -5
Haha - actually, I don't think Paris is a porn star (even though I guess technically she is - she was in a movie having sex and it was sold for money AND she received money from it so in a way she was paid to star in it. ) I personally think she did what lots of people do and was unfortunate enough for it to leak. And I would never call her a slut or whore. How she lives her life in that aspect is of no nevermind to me, you know? I just want to make sure that I am reading that right - Anyone who comes in with less cd's sold in the first week than Hannah Montana should be embarrassed or whatever? It's laughable and it makes their cd bad, is that correct? I personally think that Mandy Moore's cd is great - but has it even hit 50k in sales yet? I guess I don't judge the quality of a cd by sales - and since that sold WAY less than Hannah Montana in it's first week, I guess it's not a good cd after all. :( Isn't Hannah/Miley in like the top 6 or 7 for first week sales for all of 2007? That makes for a lot of LMAO cd's out there. Anywho - not all of Kelly's fans will like My December. It's aight. It happens. Alot of those that liked Breakaway didn't like Thankful either. Who knows what the next cd will bring. Maybe it will be more to your taste. Your right. No problem here, not trying to argue or anything. No, its not embarrasing to be beaten by Hannah Montana, as EVERYBODY could easily be beaten by her, including Paris' album...
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Post by alias on Jul 28, 2007 18:14:22 GMT -5
Long time lurker, first time poster here! I just wanted to give my two cents. Before I do, please don't label me as a "fanbot." Yes, I'm a Kelly Clarkson fan. But I see her successes and I see her faults. For all those who are saying she's selling out, here's a quote from the LA Times article: Kelly wanted My December to come out, and it did. I agree that this topic should be locked until we get more information. I hardly believe anything Fox "News" has to say, and the little tidbit from Clive doesn't reveal much information either. Kelly herself has said that her next album would be country blues rock. Of course that was a premature statement, but it reveals more than what Clive said. Who knows what her next album will actually be, it's way too early to judge. I certainly hope she writes most of her next album, but I wouldn't mind her having more guidance from the label and professional writers and producer.
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Post by Bluesy on Jul 28, 2007 18:25:20 GMT -5
Anywho - not all of Kelly's fans will like My December. It's aight. It happens. Alot of those that liked Breakaway didn't like Thankful either. Who knows what the next cd will bring. Maybe it will be more to your taste. As a fan, I love 'Thankful' and 'Breakaway.' Found MD too dark, dreary and dull for my tastes, but I don't hate it. Just am very disappointed. It was just the wrong album at the wrong time of year, and it falls short of the excellence I think Kelly is capable of producing. So if she and Clive are ready to move on, I think that's a good thing. I'm placing a lot of hope and faith in Reba and her husband to guide Kelly's career in a good direction from here on out. I think with the right kind of mentoring, Kelly will only benefit and the really great artist within her will flower. One thing's for sure, Clive will listen to Reba and her husband because of their own stature in the business.
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Post by Bluesy on Jul 28, 2007 18:26:44 GMT -5
The next person to mention Paris in this thread is getting an official warning. Drop it and move on. This is not a Paris thread or a Paris Vs Kelly b***hfight. Thank you. I wanted to say something awhile back, but didn't want to come off as bossy.
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Post by tsharky on Jul 28, 2007 18:45:08 GMT -5
I personally love Sober, Hole and Haunted- hate One minute and never again. I think Hole and Haunted could have done well on radio as they are like evanescence kind of.
but anyway- glad she is back on track- clive does deserve some respect. People are so quick to diss him but what do we all know, monday morning quarterbacking? Clive got to where he is today for a reason.
However- I hope kelly doesn't go blonde again and turn anorexic to please everyone. She looked terrible blonde- looks lovely with her long dark hair. IF she goes anorexic hollywood on us, it will look like she sold out completely, and people may lose some respect. I may myself. I like her the way she is- daring to be different- herself......:( It is one thing to go back to commercially viable records- but quite another to change yourself completely. I hope she just changes her songs, but stays the same kelly, and doesn't go too hollywood.
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jul 28, 2007 20:32:57 GMT -5
For the sake of keeping all Kelly-related discussion fluid, I think this should be locked. Discussion should continue in the My December forum (or you could rename the thread to Kelly Clarkson - The Apologetic Era). It would just make things easier if all the information was in one place.
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Post by Tabitha on Jul 28, 2007 22:11:56 GMT -5
so what will happen to my december?! i want atleast another single from the album.
and i am glad people now realize that MD was not good. It might be labeled as a flop depending on sales. i remember 2 months ago people were pissed because Kelly wasn't doing so hot. I even had some stalker who stalked everything i said because i did not like kelly. Now we might see a good change for her and she realizes reality and that fans want something new
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Post by alias on Jul 28, 2007 23:32:58 GMT -5
and i am glad people now realize that MD was not good... Now we might see a good change for her and she realizes reality and that fans want something new What people are now realizing that MD is not good? I certainly respect your opinion, but it is not fact, and I haven't heard anything about masses of people returning their copies of MD. And I do believe if more people had the chance to hear MD, a lot would enjoy it. Of course, she'd lose some fans but she'd also gain some. NA may not have done too hot at radio, but it received good call out scores and a good amount of downloads with little airplay, but for whatever reason or another, NA didn't receive good airplay, and because of that, Sober isn't being given a chance. I'm not going to get into pointing fingers, playing the blame game, or spewing conspiracy theories about the label. The reality is that some people love it, some people couldn't care either way, some people hate it. Is MD better or worse than Breakaway? That is purely opinion. Would MD be selling more if it was handled better (by Kelly, her management, and her label)? Definitely. And fans did want something new. The result was My December. I'm sure fans expect something else new for her next album... Not Breakaway 2, not My December 2. For now, I'm enjoying My December, and I'll wait to see what her next album has to offer whenever that time comes.
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Jul 29, 2007 0:58:49 GMT -5
I hardly believe anything "Fox News" has to say, and the little tidbit from Clive doesn't reveal much information either. Kelly herself has said that her next album would be country blues rock. I totally agree. This article from Fox News is silly. Kelly's next album will be Country Blues Rock. It isn't confirmed that Kelly is letting Clive dictate her career on the next album. I Won't believe it till I hear it from KELLY's mouth. Till then, I'll believe it's haters. Kelly proved that she's gonna have her career her way with the release of this album. She wants street cred. I doubt she'll go back now. I think she got it by releasing "NA" and "Sober". The only BreakAway type song was "How I Feel" (which I actually DO like ). If Kelly wanted to sell out, she would have released it after NA. She didn't. So I think this is just rumours. If Kelly rush releases an album, well I just don't know what I'd believe about that. I'd certainly be disillusioned with this era. She would seem SUPER fake to me. I've seen enough of Kelly to know that she is NOT fake. Let's wait and see what KELLY says. Not Fox News *rolls eyes* Fox News has been negative towards Kelly from the beginning of this era. I wouldn't trust them. In the mean time, call and request "Sober"! Radio gave up on P!nk and came around. Maybe they can with Kelly too!
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Post by GiggaWho on Jul 29, 2007 1:34:19 GMT -5
Let's keep the Kelly discussion to the My December thread until that albums been out for more than a few weeks and there's more information about a new album that a Fox News article.
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