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Post by oscillations. on Apr 10, 2008 20:16:19 GMT -5
Since Radiohead is finally going to release one, the next two that come to mind are Beck and NIN.
Who else?
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Apr 10, 2008 20:24:47 GMT -5
Tool...the basslines would be a pain in the rear...and Pantera for the solos.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 10, 2008 20:29:31 GMT -5
Foo Fighters, and maybe Linkin Park.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Apr 10, 2008 20:36:00 GMT -5
As far as specific songs...I'd have Muse's "Stockholm Syndrome" and Alter Bridge's "Metalingus".
Those would be KILLER!
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 10, 2008 20:37:41 GMT -5
Not Guitar Hero!
Greatest Hits!
hahaha
although I suppose we could discuss both...
sorry I can't fit "greatest hits" into the thread title...
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Post by Pipa on Apr 10, 2008 20:40:22 GMT -5
Alter Bridge's "Metalingus" Practically that whole album is a greatest hits. "In Loving Memory", "Metalingus", "One Day Remains", and "Broken Wings" would all be awesome choices.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Apr 10, 2008 20:43:02 GMT -5
I guess that goes to show how obsessed with that game that I am...I don't even OWN the damn thing...*sigh* So then... Tool (but I know that they're "too cool" for one of those) Nine Inch Nails (I heard a rumor that Interscope was going to release that sometime later this year because it would fulfill NIN's contract.) I think LP needs at least another album... I think Chevelle and Nickelback are in that group too.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Apr 11, 2008 3:23:14 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure these bands dont have GH available, but i dont think i've seen any from
Weezer Matchbox Twenty 3 Doors Down and Distrubed are getting close Death Cab For Cutie could use a compilation in a year or two after this next album, especially to expose some of their older material.
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 11, 2008 9:29:13 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure these bands dont have GH available, but i dont think i've seen any from Weezer Matchbox Twenty 3 Doors Down and Distrubed are getting close Death Cab For Cutie could use a compilation in a year or two after this next album, especially to expose some of their older material. Matchbox just released their's, "Exile on Mainstream"
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Apr 11, 2008 17:59:47 GMT -5
lol, i never even payed enough attention to that album, I thought it was all original material. That's what I get for not actually checking it out first.
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 11, 2008 18:01:20 GMT -5
Weezer should cut their losses and release theirs now. Unless of course, the new album manages to restore some of their credibility.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Apr 11, 2008 18:09:49 GMT -5
^^^^ what an odd comment osci, what exactly do you mean by that. I've been a Weezer fan since day one. I loved pretty much every album they put out, some took longer to get into but I still love them all. Their last album was great and was the highest peak chartwise of their career for an album. I think the next album has the possibiilty of doing what Green Day did. They release an album that has some airplay and a little success to get the name out there again and then hit them with some of the best stuff of their career. I guess though it always comes down to personal taste whether you like something or not but Im still confused how you think they've lost credibility when their last album went platinum. Which is no small feat for an alt/rock band in this day and age.
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 11, 2008 18:18:38 GMT -5
Their last great album was the Green Album. Maladroit & Make Believe were tartar.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 11, 2008 18:41:27 GMT -5
Their last great album was the Green Album. Maladroit & Make Believe were tartar. Heh; most Weezer fans would say Pinkerton was their last great album. While I agree with you on Maladroit, Make Believe wasn't so bad. Well, at least "This Is Such a Pity" wasn't.
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 11, 2008 18:44:51 GMT -5
www.metacritic.com/music/artists/weezer/makebelieveIt's amazing how many ANGRY reviews this album received. Look at the red scores & their comments: 30 The New York Times Infuriatingly plain. [16 May 2005] 26 cokemachineglow Make Believe finds Cuomo donkey-punching the formaldehyde-soaked corpse of his former glory. 10 Playlouder You can feel how dreadful this record is from the very first bar. 4 Pitchfork Sometimes an album is just awful. Make Believe is one of those albums.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 11, 2008 18:50:14 GMT -5
...So?
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 11, 2008 18:51:51 GMT -5
It's just rare that an album elicits so much fury.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 11, 2008 18:55:54 GMT -5
Not really. I mean, it's happened enough times to create an all-time worst page.
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Post by jazklash on Apr 11, 2008 19:25:31 GMT -5
It's just rare that an album elicits so much fury. Pinkerton also had less than stellar reviews at the time. I know. I'm old enough to actually have some living memories of those days. ;) Nowadays, it's justly considered as the album which - for better and for worse - kickstarted a lot of what you, me and the world know as emo. Remember what I said about critical consensus on the Moby thread, and how I was working on it for something related to it for some time now? Now you know and can understand why. ;)
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 11, 2008 19:58:02 GMT -5
I'm no fan of Pinkerton either. Green & Blue only. Someone stole my Green album awhile ago...
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Post by jazklash on Apr 11, 2008 20:08:09 GMT -5
Bottom line: you shouldn't put so much stock into critical consensus. Time is the greatest judge. I mean, how many of the same writers who put The Strokes up in Heaven in 2001 think the same in 2008? How many critics these days are hailing Is This It as one of the greatest albums of the decade? I know not as many as back in the day. And that number will only be smaller as time rolls on. ;)
Appropos, The Strokes could definitely release a Greatest Hits package by now. I know it would be their best album ever by a mile, since all the albums they released so far have lived off the two or three killer singles from it.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 11, 2008 20:12:53 GMT -5
On the contrary, I like The Strokes much more now than I did in 2001.
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 11, 2008 20:15:32 GMT -5
Again, it was just to serve the point that I'm not alone in thinking that Make Believe was trash. And that was just an extension of the argument that Weezer better release a greatest hits before they get any worse.
I wonder if the White Stripes will release one soon. I mean, they have 6 albums. But I kind of doubt that they will.
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Post by oscillations. on Apr 11, 2008 20:19:06 GMT -5
On the contrary, I like The Strokes much more now than I did in 2001. Their old material, their new, or all of it? My opinion is that Is This It was a great album, is a great album, and will be a great album. I mean, its value is not diminishing just because the band's follow-ups weren't so hot. Of course, people will forget about it over time, but people are flaky and transient. The album itself is eternal.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 11, 2008 20:23:52 GMT -5
On the contrary, I like The Strokes much more now than I did in 2001. Their old material, their new, or all of it? All of it. I remember absolutely hating "Last Nite" and liking the nu-metal. I wonder if most casual radio listeners were like that.
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Post by jazklash on Apr 11, 2008 20:30:32 GMT -5
It's not. As time rolls on, it's becoming more and more evident that the whole hype around Is This It was unjustified. I mean, let's face it: they weren't exactly pilfering from places that hadn't been milked to exhaustion already: Velvet Underground, Richard Hell, Television, The Soft Boys, etc, etc, etc. And it wasn't as if they were exactly adding something really new to that formula. Sure there were some memorable pop songs there. But as the years go by, everyone starts realizing they could never be the Holy Grail so many claimed them to be first time around.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 11, 2008 20:35:33 GMT -5
Picpak, none of those Alter Bridge songs were hits. I'm aware of that...I just didn't realize Crushcrushchris was talking about Guitar Hero.
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Post by jazklash on Apr 11, 2008 20:37:53 GMT -5
Furthermore, I should add that the whole New Rock thing was the most obviously music press-created scene of all time. It was the music press trying to create something out of, um, something which didn't have a solid grassroots support to speak of. So of course it fizzled as fast as it did without really exploding either. As much one-dimensional it was, nü-metal had the benefit of having been something that didn't seem like it exploded overnight. It actually had the time to develop a strong support under the radar before it finally went overground. And that's why some of the bands survived the collapse, while The White Stripes are pretty much the only "New Rock" band really left intact from the bubble-burst.
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 11, 2008 22:43:59 GMT -5
Picpak, none of those Alter Bridge songs were hits. ....... as well as Three Days Grace, I don't know about Three Days Grace, not yet anyway. I think you need at least 4 allbums to be able to release a Greatest Hits. 2 more albums form 3dg and then they'll be ready.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 12, 2008 2:40:34 GMT -5
I'm finding that the more time goes on and the more I acquire the mp3s of radio singles from bands whose albums I don't buy, that as much as I used to say "If only they put out a greatest-hits album," I don't really care anymore when they do.
Or they leave off songs I wanted and/or put on songs I don't want and I just feel like, "OK then, I'll create the greatest hits album. Thanks anyway."
The other problem is when bands put out GH albums and then put out another couple of records and break up. Or they just keep on going.
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