When was the last time CHR/Pop shared a #1 with...

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

I was thinking, when Green Day hit #1 on CHR/Pop, they also had #1 on five other formats and it got me wondering, how often does it happen that CHR/Pop shares a #1 with even one other of those other five formats?
Rock songs usually top the Rock, Alternative and Active Rock charts first before even crossing over to CHR/Pop. Triple A songs usually peak faster and if they even crossover to CHR/Pop, it takes a while and Hot AC songs catch on longer than they do at CHR/Pop.
It really puts it into perspective how amazing Green Day's record really is. Not only to share #1 at the same time at Active Rock and CHR/Pop, for example, but at Active Rock AND Hot AC or Triple A and Hot AC.
So when was the last time CHR/Pop shared a #1 at the same time with the other five formats?

[Topay]

I know "She Will Be Loved" was #1 on Pop and Hot AC at the same time. I couldn't tell you about the other formats.

Come on, Country and Christian! If everything else under the sun can go #1 on Pop, then why not these :) .

[agon666]

The said:

I was thinking, when Green Day hit #1 on CHR/Pop, they also had #1 on five other formats and it got me wondering, how often does it happen that CHR/Pop shares a #1 with even one other of those other five formats?
Rock songs usually top the Rock, Alternative and Active Rock charts first before even crossing over to CHR/Pop. Triple A songs usually peak faster and if they even crossover to CHR/Pop, it takes a while and Hot AC songs catch on longer than they do at CHR/Pop.
It really puts it into perspective how amazing Green Day's record really is. Not only to share #1 at the same time at Active Rock and CHR/Pop, for example, but at Active Rock AND Hot AC or Triple A and Hot AC.
So when was the last time CHR/Pop shared a #1 at the same time with the other five formats?

The six formats was a R&R record. Before that, "One Sweet Day" by Boyz II Men and Mariah Carey had 5 formats (Urban AC, Pop, Rhythmic, and two I can't recall)

[JayBoozer]

Avril did it with two records:

"Complicated' and "I'm With You"

[GordonUM]

I did a couple topics on this last month:

CHR/Pop Shared #1s:
pulsemusic.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=pop&action=display&thread=1108854804

Multi-Format Smashes:
pulsemusic.proboards12.com/index.cgi?board=radio&action=display&thread=1108853701

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

I mean at the same time. I'm sure it's quite common that a song can top CHR and another chart but probably weeks or months apart.

[JCMF3]

1998:
Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On - topped Pop and AC simultaneously from 2/6/98 to 3/27/98

Savage Garden - Truly Madly Deeply - topped pop and AC on 4/10/98 together.

Natalie Imbruglia - Torn - Topped Pop and HAC simultaneously from 4/17/98 to 6/26/98

Goo Goo Dolls - Iris - Topped pop and HAC from 7/24/98 to 8/7/98 together.

Shawn Mullins - Lullaby - Topped pop and HAC from 12/4/98 to 1/15/99 (total runs at #1 ran the same on both charts!)

1999:
Sugar Ray - Every Morning - Topped pop and HAC 3/26/99 - 4/30/99 together. Topped pop and alternative 3/19/99 - 3/26/99. Topped pop, alternative, & HAC 3/26/99.

Ricky Martin - Livin' La Vida Loca - Topped pop and HAC simultaneously 6/11/99 - 7/2/99.

Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way - Topped pop and AC 7/23/99.

Santana f/ Rob Thomas - Smooth - Topped pop and HAC 11/5/99 - 12/17/99 simultaneously.

2000:
Savage Garden - I Knew I Loved You - Topped pop and AC 1/7/00 - 2/4/00.

Matchbox Twenty - Bent - Topped pop and HAC 8/18/00 - 8/25/00. Topped pop, HAC, and AAA 8/18/00.

Creed - With Arms Wide Open - Topped pop and HAC 10/27/00 - 11/24/00.

Destiny's Child - Independent Women Part I - Topped pop and RHY 12/1/00 - 12/8/00

2001:
Christina Aguilera, Mya, Pink, & Lil' Kim - Lady Marmalade - Topped pop and RHY 5/18/01 - 5/25/01.

2002:
Nelly - Hot In Herre - Topped pop, RHY, and Urban 7/5/02 - 7/12/02

Avril Lavigne - Complicated - Topped pop and HAC 7/26/02 - 9/6/02

Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland - Dilemma - Topped pop, RHY, & Urban 9/13/02 - 10/11/02

Eminem - Lose Yourself - Topped pop and RHY 12/13/02 - 12/20/02

2003:
Avril Lavigne - I'm With You - Topped pop and HAC 2/14/03 - 2/21/03.

50 Cent - In Da Club - Topped pop and RHY 3/28/03 - 4/18/03. Topped pop, RHY, and Urban 3/28/03 - 4/4/03.

Beyonce f/ Sean Paul - Baby Boy - Topped pop and RHY 10/31/03.

[johnm1120]

topay said:

Come on, Country and Christian!  If everything else under the sun can go #1 on Pop, then why not these  :) .

You really want me to answer that? ;)

[DuckHead]

Here are the complete lists for a couple of formats.

Pop/Alternative

11/28/1997- Tubthumping- Chumbawamba
12/05/1997- Tubthumping- Chumbawamba

07/17/1998- Iris- Goo Goo Dolls

03/19/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray
03/26/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray

02/25/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/04/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/11/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/18/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day

Pop/Hot AC

06/10/1994- I'll Remember- Madonna

10/21/1994- All I Wanna Do- Sheryl Crow
10/28/1994- All I Wanna Do- Sheryl Crow
11/04/1994- All I Wanna Do- Sheryl Crow
11/11/1994- All I Wanna Do- Sheryl Crow

02/17/1995- Take A Bow- Madonna
02/24/1995- Take A Bow- Madonna
03/03/1995- Take A Bow- Madonna
03/10/1995- Take A Bow- Madonna

06/23/1995- I'll Be There For You- Rembrandts
06/30/1995- I'll Be There For You- Rembrandts
07/07/1995- I'll Be There For You- Rembrandts
07/14/1995- I'll Be There For You- Rembrandts
07/21/1995- I'll Be There For You- Rembrandts
07/28/1995- I'll Be There For You- Rembrandts

08/11/1995- Kiss From A Rose- Seal
08/18/1995- Kiss From A Rose- Seal
08/25/1995- Kiss From A Rose- Seal
09/01/1995- Kiss From A Rose- Seal
09/08/1995- Kiss From A Rose- Seal
09/15/1995- Kiss From A Rose- Seal
09/22/1995- Kiss From A Rose- Seal

12/22/1995- One Sweet Day- Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men
01/12/1996- One Sweet Day- Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men
01/19/1996- One Sweet Day- Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men
01/26/1996- One Sweet Day- Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men
02/02/1996- One Sweet Day- Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men
02/09/1996- One Sweet Day- Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men

04/26/1996- Because You Loved Me- Celine Dion
05/03/1996- Because You Loved Me- Celine Dion
05/10/1996- Because You Loved Me- Celine Dion
05/17/1996- Because You Loved Me- Celine Dion
05/24/1996- Because You Loved Me- Celine Dion
05/31/1996- Because You Loved Me- Celine Dion
06/07/1996- Because You Loved Me- Celine Dion

06/21/1996- Give Me One Reason- Tracy Chapman

09/20/1996- I Love You Always Forever- Donna Lewis
09/27/1996- I Love You Always Forever- Donna Lewis
10/04/1996- I Love You Always Forever- Donna Lewis
10/11/1996- I Love You Always Forever- Donna Lewis
10/18/1996- I Love You Always Forever- Donna Lewis
10/25/1996- I Love You Always Forever- Donna Lewis

01/10/1997- Don't Speak- No Doubt
01/17/1997- Don't Speak- No Doubt
01/24/1997- Don't Speak- No Doubt
01/31/1997- Don't Speak- No Doubt
02/07/1997- Don't Speak- No Doubt
02/14/1997- Don't Speak- No Doubt

04/04/1997- You Were Meant For Me- Jewel
04/11/1997- You Were Meant For Me- Jewel
04/18/1997- You Were Meant For Me- Jewel
04/25/1997- You Were Meant For Me- Jewel
05/02/1997- You Were Meant For Me- Jewel

09/19/1997- Foolish Games- Jewel
09/26/1997- Foolish Games- Jewel
10/03/1997- Foolish Games- Jewel
10/10/1997- Foolish Games- Jewel

12/12/1997- Tubthumping- Chumbawamba
12/19/1997- Tubthumping- Chumbawamba
01/09/1998- Tubthumping- Chumbawamba

04/17/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
04/24/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
05/01/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
05/08/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
05/15/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
05/22/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
05/29/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
06/05/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
06/12/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
06/19/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia
06/26/1998- Torn- Natalie Imbruglia

07/24/1998- Iris- Goo Goo Dolls
07/31/1998- Iris- Goo Goo Dolls
08/07/1998- Iris- Goo Goo Dolls

11/20/1998- Thank U- Alanis Morissette

12/04/1998- Lullaby- Shawn Mullins
12/11/1998- Lullaby- Shawn Mullins
12/18/1998- Lullaby- Shawn Mullins
01/08/1999- Lullaby- Shawn Mullins
01/15/1999- Lullaby- Shawn Mullins

03/26/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray
04/02/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray
04/09/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray
04/16/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray
04/23/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray
04/30/1999- Every Morning- Sugar Ray

06/11/1999- Livin' La Vida Loca- Ricky Martin
06/18/1999- Livin' La Vida Loca- Ricky Martin
06/25/1999- Livin' La Vida Loca- Ricky Martin
07/02/1999- Livin' La Vida Loca- Ricky Martin

07/30/1999- All Star- Smash Mouth
08/06/1999- All Star- Smash Mouth
08/13/1999- All Star- Smash Mouth
08/20/1999- All Star- Smash Mouth
08/27/1999- All Star- Smash Mouth

11/05/1999- Smooth- Santana f/ Rob Thomas
11/12/1999- Smooth- Santana f/ Rob Thomas
11/19/1999- Smooth- Santana f/ Rob Thomas
11/26/1999- Smooth- Santana f/ Rob Thomas
12/03/1999- Smooth- Santana f/ Rob Thomas
12/10/1999- Smooth- Santana f/ Rob Thomas
12/17/1999- Smooth- Santana f/ Rob Thomas

08/18/2000- Bent- Matchbox Twenty
08/25/2000- Bent- Matchbox Twenty

10/27/2000- With Arms Wide Open- Creed
11/03/2000- With Arms Wide Open- Creed
11/10/2000- With Arms Wide Open- Creed
11/17/2000- With Arms Wide Open- Creed
11/24/2000- With Arms Wide Open- Creed

07/26/2002- Complicated- Avril Lavigne
08/02/2002- Complicated- Avril Lavigne
08/09/2002- Complicated- Avril Lavigne
08/16/2002- Complicated- Avril Lavigne
08/23/2002- Complicated- Avril Lavigne
08/30/2002- Complicated- Avril Lavigne
09/06/2002- Complicated- Avril Lavigne

02/14/2003- I'm With You- Avril Lavigne
02/21/2003- I'm With You- Avril Lavigne

05/07/2004- This Love- Maroon 5
05/14/2004- This Love- Maroon 5

07/09/2004- The Reason- Hoobastank

09/24/2004- She Will Be Loved- Maroon 5
10/01/2004- She Will Be Loved- Maroon 5
10/08/2004- She Will Be Loved- Maroon 5
10/15/2004- She Will Be Loved- Maroon 5
10/22/2004- She Will Be Loved- Maroon 5

02/25/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/04/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/11/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/18/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day

[DuckHead]

Here are the rest of the formats (since 2000):

Pop/Active Rock

12/14/2001- How You Remind Me- Nickelback

02/25/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/04/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day

Pop/Rock

02/25/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/04/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/11/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day
03/18/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day

Pop/AAA

08/18/2000- Bent- Matchbox Twenty

02/25/2005- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams- Green Day

Pop/AC

01/07/2000- I Knew I Loved You- Savage Garden
01/14/2000- I Knew I Loved You- Savage Garden
01/21/2000- I Knew I Loved You- Savage Garden
01/28/2000- I Knew I Loved You- Savage Garden
02/04/2000- I Knew I Loved You- Savage Garden

Pop/Rhythmic

12/01/2000- Independent Women Pt. 1- Destiny's Child
12/08/2000- Independent Women Pt. 1- Destiny's Child

05/18/2001- Lady Marmalade- Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mya & Pink
05/25/2001- Lady Marmalade- Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mya & Pink

07/05/2002- Hot In Herre- Nelly
07/12/2002- Hot In Herre- Nelly

09/13/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
09/20/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
09/27/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
10/04/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
10/11/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland

12/13/2002- Lose Yourself- Eminem
12/20/2002- Lose Yourself- Eminem

03/28/2003- In Da Club- 50 Cent
04/04/2003- In Da Club- 50 Cent
04/11/2003- In Da Club- 50 Cent
04/18/2003- In Da Club- 50 Cent

10/31/2003- Baby Boy- Beyonce f/ Sean Paul

04/09/2004- Yeah- Usher f/ Ludacris & Lil' Jon
04/16/2004- Yeah- Usher f/ Ludacris & Lil' Jon
04/23/2004- Yeah- Usher f/ Ludacris & Lil' Jon
04/30/2004- Yeah- Usher f/ Ludacris & Lil' Jon

Pop/Urban

07/05/2002- Hot In Herre- Nelly
07/12/2002- Hot In Herre- Nelly

09/13/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
09/20/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
09/27/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
10/04/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland
10/11/2002- Dilemma- Nelly f/ Kelly Rowland

03/28/2003- In Da Club- 50 Cent
04/04/2003- In Da Club- 50 Cent

04/09/2004- Yeah- Usher f/ Ludacris & Lil' Jon

I don't have the data for 01/07/2005 through 02/18/2005 for Rhythmic or Urban, so I'm not sure if "Let Me Love You" accomplished the feat on either format.

[Libra]

DuckHead said:

I don't have the data for 01/07/2005 through 02/18/2005 for Rhythmic or Urban, so I'm not sure if "Let Me Love You" accomplished the feat on either format.

I would imagine it shared with at least one, but probably both during that time.

[Marv]

Mario did hit #1 with 'LMLY' simultaneously at CHR/Pop, CHR/Rhythmic & Urban, at least in R&R.

[Marv]

Since CHR/Pop and AC can't play the same music anymore, it made sense that a rock/alternative song would have accomplished what Green Day.

Hitting #1 at SIX formats is astonishing, to put it bluntly, but an exceptional accomplishment.

[Pink Champagne Ricochet]

Since CHR/Pop and AC can't play the same music anymore,

yeah, it'll never happen. Even if a Pop hit does eventually become an AC hit, it takes months for the latter to pick up on it. Was AC radio so slow back in the days when Celine, etc. could have simultaneous chartoppers on those 2 formats?

[johnm1120]

MHWGO I'm sure was #1 on Pop/AC at the same time.

[DuckHead]

chbigemi said:

MHWGO I'm sure was #1 on Pop/AC at the same time.

It was, for 8 weeks. Also in 1998, "Truly Madly Deeply" did it for the week of 4/10/1998. And in 1999, "I Want It That Way" did it on 7/23/1999.

[JCMF3]

chbigemi said:

MHWGO I'm sure was #1 on Pop/AC at the same time.

Did you completely miss my post above?

[Marv]

When CHR/Pop playlists were much better balanced and less overloaded with rhythmic music, as was the case during the eighties and the early nineties, I'm sure that there were far more songs which hit #1 @ both Top 40 & AC almost simultaneously.

Artists which immediately come to mind would include George Michael, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Phil Collins/Genesis, Roxette, Wilson Phillips & Bruce Hornsby.

Since Celine hit #1 with MYWGO, hardly anybody's done it since, and it will undoubtedly be awhile before it happens again.

[DuckHead]

Marv said:

When CHR/Pop playlists were much better balanced and less overloaded with rhythmic music, as was the case during the eighties and the early nineties, I'm sure that there were far more songs which hit #1 @ both Top 40 & AC almost simultaneously.

Artists which immediately come to mind would include George Michael, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Phil Collins/Genesis, Roxette, Wilson Phillips & Bruce Hornsby.

Since Celine hit #1 with MYWGO, hardly anybody's done it since, and it will undoubtedly be awhile before it happens again.

I think the reason Pop and AC no longer share # 1's at the same time has less to do with Pop's playlists than the fact that AC no longer plays current music. AC's idea of a "current" song is something like "Breakaway", which is several months old. Pop and AC have shared a couple of # 1's in recent years ("Beautiful" and "A Thousand Miles"), but they hit # 1 on AC months after doing so on Pop.

[KikiMets]

DuckHead said:

I think the reason Pop and AC no longer share # 1's at the same time has less to do with Pop's playlists than the fact that AC no longer plays current music. AC's idea of a "current" song is something like "Breakaway", which is several months old. Pop and AC have shared a couple of # 1's in recent years ("Beautiful" and "A Thousand Miles"), but they hit # 1 on AC months after doing so on Pop.

To further delve into the example of "Breakaway," that song went for adds on Pop, Hot AC, and AC at the same time last summer, but did not debut on the AC chart until its 9th week on the Pop chart. It was #20 on the AC chart when it hit #1 on Pop, and by the time it hit #1 on AC more than 4 months later, Kelly's next single was #2 on Pop(a couple of weeks later, she became the first artist to top both charts simultaneously with two different songs). If that doesn't illustrate the snail-like pace at which AC picks up current songs, I don't know what will.

[Michael1973]

That's because today's AC radio is mostly concerned with playing "familiar" music, hence the heavy focus on recurrents and older music and the tendency to add "new" songs only after they've been out for a good long time.

[Marv]

Actually, the fact the the CHR/Pop and AC formats are so far apart in terms of targeted demographic audience is the main reason why breaking a single at both formats simultaneoulsy is a thing of the past.

It happned lots of times during the eighties and nineties, when both formats could play the same music, before the CHR/Pop took a dramatic lurch towards the rhythmic side.

Most of the artists I mentioned earlier in this thread had no problem being serviced to AC & CHR/Pop simultaneously, you can certainly add Daryl Hall & John Oates to that list, as well as Taylor Dayne, Huey Lewis & The News, Tina Turner & LOTS of other artists.

[Hervard]

agon666 said:

The said:

I was thinking, when Green Day hit #1 on CHR/Pop, they also had #1 on five other formats and it got me wondering, how often does it happen that CHR/Pop shares a #1 with even one other of those other five formats?
Rock songs usually top the Rock, Alternative and Active Rock charts first before even crossing over to CHR/Pop. Triple A songs usually peak faster and if they even crossover to CHR/Pop, it takes a while and Hot AC songs catch on longer than they do at CHR/Pop.
It really puts it into perspective how amazing Green Day's record really is. Not only to share #1 at the same time at Active Rock and CHR/Pop, for example, but at Active Rock AND Hot AC or Triple A and Hot AC.
So when was the last time CHR/Pop shared a #1 at the same time with the other five formats?

The six formats was a R&R record. Before that, "One Sweet Day" by Boyz II Men and Mariah Carey had 5 formats (Urban AC, Pop, Rhythmic, and two I can't recall)

I know that it hit #1 on the AC chart. I would imagine the remaining format would be either Hot AC or Urban, most likely the latter, since Boyz II Men sang on it.

[Matt4319]

"Check On It" is about to be #1 on Pop and Rhythmic.

[britrocks16]

There have been many #1's on Pop Urban and Rhythmic at the same time (Yeah, WBT, LMLY)

[OUcultjam]

^ they're practically the same chart now.

[MusicJunkie]

oucultjam said:

^ they're practically the same chart now.

unfortunately :(

[Marv]

CHR/Pop will never return to it's glory days until it quits pursuing the same 12-24 audience that CHR/Rhythmic stations (at least those owned by Emmis, such as KPWR and WPLJ) have been focused on for several years.

CHR/Pop hasn't been a songwriter-driven (or song-driven) format for several years now.

[JCMF3]

marv said:

CHR/Pop will never return to it's glory days until it quits pursuing the same 12-24 audience that CHR/Rhythmic stations (at least those owned by Emmis, such as KPWR and WPLJ) have been focused on for several years.

"Glory days" is all relative. Pop radio still has a lot of listeners, and, though not performing as it has before in terms of ratings, in still a major force in radio. Artists like Kelly Clarkson would be nowhere near her popularity now if not for pop radio, despite her success on AC and most recently on HAC.

True, I do not care much for the heavy emphasis on hip-hop and rap on pop radio today, I still listen to it over AC mainly because it has a much fresher sound. Really, I think the AC and HAC formats need a major overhaul. The same accusations you push on pop radio could be applied to those formats. Why has AC radio abandoned core format artists like Jim Brickman and Celine Dion? Why have their playlists turned stale? Why are some songs like This Love getting heavy recurrent play on a format the song was not designed for?

[Marv]

My biggest problem with AC radio is that it plays VERY little new music, and the charts in BOTH trades are a JOKE; I have no idea what the recurrent rule in either trade is, but when I see songs that have been on the chrats at either trade in either the AC or Hot AC format for over FORTY weeks, then something is REALLY wong.

As I've said earlier, you'd be VERY hard-pressed to find aformat that hasn't deteriorated from a listenability and freshness standpoint due to an overreliance on consultants and research.

I've also said that the two best sounding formats on the air SHOULD be Hot AC and Oldies, but most formats seem to opeate with a library of no more than 250-300 songs, which makes for some VERY stale radio!!!!!!!

Some AC stations COULD also sound much better if not for that 300-title limit in their libraries as well.