I WISH PREMIERE CANCELLED AT40 WITH RYAN SEACREST!

[dth1971]

I have stopped listening all the time to Ryan Seacrest's American Top 40 in January 2004 because he installed a no recurrent rule to his AT40 chart and now since he still has the no recurrent rule (just to keep for at least 1 more week "Stronger" and "The Way I Are" on the AT40 chart) rather than the recurrent rule USA Today chart format...

I WISH PREMIERE CANCELLED AMERICAN TOP 40 WITH RYAN SEACREST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ALL BECAUSE OF THIS!

(Of course, Premiere/Clear Channel will keep Casey Kasem's American Top 10 AC and Casey Kasem's American Top 20 Hot AC shows; but if Ryan's AT40 gets pink slipped sometime this Summer and possibly get the rights to replace AT40 CHR and Hot AC with Hollywood Hamilton's Weekly Top 30 in CHR Mainstream, a new Hot AC format, and add the CHR Rhythm Hollywood Hamilton countdown versions for rhythm leaning KIIS Los Angeles and rhythm leaning WKSC Chicago - just like in Summer 1994 when ABC/Watermark cancelled the old Shadoe Stevens American Top 40 in favor of getting the rights to Rick Dees Weekly Top 40!)

Could the withdrawing of Ryan's AT40 occur even if Ryan Seacrest replaces Larry King on CNN? Let's hope during the end credits of the last AT40 with Ryan Seacrest if it ever happens has played in the background at the end "Happy Trails to You" like for the last heard in foreign markets only AT40 with Shadoe Stevens in 1995 did. >:( ??? :o :(

[atlantaboy]

^Yeah that AT40 "not puttin songs into recurrent" thing does make the show less exciting to die-hard music fans (like most of the people on this board, who love to hear new releases), but pretty sure it majorly boosted the show's ratings (and caused more CHRs to pick it up instead of Rick Dees/or switch over)

The problem is IMO there are a whole lot of markets where CHR listeners wanna hear the songs they know and really like, and will change the station if an unfamiliar song comes on (or one that might be gettin marginal callout in their market)

[cartman2002]

Now we don't want to cancelled At40 again but maybe have Seacrest quit or get fired by the end of the year and maybe replace him with Casey's son on the show and focus on the charts rather than gossip

[Johnser]

May 10, 2008 13:19:20 GMT -5 cartman2002 said:

Now we don't want to cancelled At40 again but maybe have Seacrest quit or get fired by the end of the year and maybe replace him with Casey's son on the show and focus on the charts rather than gossip

That would be better yet. Get rid of Seacrest and have Mike take over. Maybe if he were to take over there would be more focus on the music and much less on Hollywood gossip.

[dth1971]

Mike Kasem did guest host for Casey once on American Top 10 AC/American Top 20 Hot AC, so if PREMIERE lays off Ryan Seacrest Mike Kasem with be the better and new AT40 host but Mike's father Casey will still do AT10/AT20 until he retires.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I think this is an unhealthy obsession... Why don't you just listen to another chart program or just move on? Have you thought about making your own personal chart?

[atlantaboy]

^Yeah it kinda seems like at least 60% of CHRs nationwide (that air countdown shows) are airing AT40 with Seacrest, while about 40% are airing Rick Dees, so IMO no one's cancelling AT40 with Seacrest

Rick Dees actually is pretty much quicker about adding new songs onto his chart, and I think it might have hurt his number of affiliates (not convinced that stations care that much about the "dartboard" thing cause pretty sure most listeners don't really care if the show is accurate to Mediabase or not)...thinkin Dees does better in smaller markets, where stations don't have to worry as much about listeners changin the station when they hear new/unfamiliar songs in the 30s

[Slinky]

I think there's two factors why AT40 is preferred over WT40 on most CHRs:

- Dees is considered to be a has-been, while Seacrest is still considered a hot property. Dees' humor hasn't changed since the 80's and it's gotten a bit stale. I don't think Seacrest is that good either, but at least his countdown is free of 20 year old Dees schtick.

- Premiere distributes AT40. Clear Chanel owns Premiere. Clear Channel owns most big-market CHRs. CC probably requires its big stations to clear AT40 so they can increase national ad sales. Even if CC didn't require it, it's just easier to go in-house than to reach out to another company for a countdown show. Conversely, the fact that Premiere owns AT40 may hurt AT40's chances of being carried on non-CC CHRs, because it would be seen as helping the competition.

[jazklash]

As I said in the "Shadoe vs Ryan" thread, the Seacrest version of AT40 was never syndicated here in Portugal. But if you ask me, I don't think Seacrest's über-toolness (from what I've heard from both Premiere Radio's online demos and seen on random American Idol's videos on YouTube) is their biggest problem. AT40's problem lies on the fact that it just never was the same the minute they snubbed the Hot 100 and employed various random less authoritative charts along the way. I think somehow the aura and, most importantly, the impression that you were listening to something that felt DEFINITIVE went away with the chart switch.
Now I know why AT40's team took that decision in late 1991. But it was counterproductive in the long run. It was as if, to win the fight with rival countdown shows, AT40 felt it had to lower itself to the other's standards in order to survive. And we all know that paring down is never the best solution if you want to make something last.
So, in a way, the current state of AT40 is just the peak of a series of misjudgments and wrong shots which started way back in the day, really.

[johnm1120]

Mike would be a good host and like several others have said, make the show about the music. If I wanna hear celebrity gossip, I'll put on Access Hollywood or something.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I'd be willing to record a weekly Top 40 based on R&R if I could get people to find me a few artist interviews a week and write me short stories like Casey used to do and ensure I have good quality mp3s of the entire Top 40. haha! It would be a fun for-Pulse countdown.

[johnm1120]

I sometimes do stuff similar for my chart.

[somelikeitwhen]

May 22, 2008 14:11:52 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

I'd be willing to record a weekly Top 40 based on R&R if I could get people to find me a few artist interviews a week and write me short stories like Casey used to do and ensure I have good quality mp3s of the entire Top 40. haha! It would be a fun for-Pulse countdown.

That would be awesome.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

The biggest thing I'd need are jingles.

[620 Soul Train]

May 22, 2008 21:31:40 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

The biggest thing I'd need are jingles.

Man, I would love to become involved in this thing (if you are serious about this). As far as jingles have you looked at different prices for jingles? I seroiusly thought about using jingles for my podcast, but I am not on that road just yet.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Well, I don't think I'm into it enough to actually buy jingles. I figured maybe they could be made, whether by me or someone else around here.
This would just be a for-fun thing for Pulse. ;)

[shadster]

I used to do this for myself, only in a top30 variety. I started it back in the mid 80s an ripped jingles from Countdown America (using only the instrumental ones, not the ones w/ singers). I stopped using those in '89. I have 'number jingles' as well as jingle/id "Top 30 countdown". Originally I recorded a show every week, then it got to be every other week....then once a month. I stopped doing it for 3 years in 1994 (not sure why). Started up again in '97 and havent done a show since probably 2002. The chart was always a 'vanity' chart made up by me based on my personal insterests in current CHR music and when I started up the show again in '97, I would pad the show w/ #1 flashbacks of years gone by, as I still have all the charts. I even started AND ended the show w/ a top5 recap. I'm sure I could dig up the last show I recorded if anyone wants to hear it.

Sooo...you can use the jingles *I* have, but I would need something that said "The pulse" so I could edit it in to create "The pulse top30 countdown". Anyone have an aircheck or somethin w/ the the words "the pulse"? There used to be a station around here called the Pulse but I never did get an aircheck from them *shrug*. maybe I did, I'll hafta do some digging.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

That'd be pretty cool!! I'd like to give a hand in doing hosting duties perhaps! lol!

[dth1971]

If AT40 and Ryan Seacrest gets canned by Premiere/Clear Channel if it ever happens, besides Hollywood Hamilton's Weekly Top 30 a candidate to replace AT40 after and if Premiere/Clear Channel inks a deal, Elvis Durant's Top 30 Hitlist or Billy Bush's CHR countdown could be Premiere/Clear Channel acquisations/candidates to be AT40 replacements. Why not? I mentioned ABC/Watermark in Summer 1994 acquired Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 to replace Shadoe Stevens AT40!

Update: Elvis Durant no longer does a CHR Top 30/40, and Billy Bush's CHR is Westwood One owned (Westwood One used to own Casey's Top 40 from 1989 to 1998, Billy Bush's CHR Weekend Countdown recently replaced AT40 with Seacrest on WZOK Rockford, IL - sign of things to come?). So I guess Hollywood Hamilton could 100% replace Ryan Seacrest's AT40 with his true to Mediabase with recurrents Top 30 countdown.

[threedollafoaholla]

I'd be willing to do a countdown for Pulse, but - due to time constraints - I'd probably have to limit it to the top 15-20 songs, at the most.

[dth1971]

As of September 27, 2008: Ryan is still snubbing "Cry For You" by September from the AT40 chart!

[patstop40]

Ok I have the perfect solution. What you do is fire Ryan Seacrest, lets face it yes it is hard to come in and take over foer any radio host but he will never be Casey! Hire Mike Kasem to take over Ryan's AT40 CHR version. Cancell AT20 and have Casey Kasem host the top 40 Hot AC version of AT40. By doing this fans would be happy that Casey would be doing AT40 again. I wopuldnt mind a Top 40 version of AT20 hosted by Casey. Plus he could still do AT10. I dont see Casey coming back to CHR but why not a AT40 Hot AC with Casey Kasem. The only thing I would still complain about is Casey should still do the LDD'S which he has not done in several weeks now!

[johnm1120]

I kinda have a feeling this will probably be Casey's last year of hosting. His contract is up next year, and I cannot see Premiere renewing AT20. AT10 he will probably hand over to Mike Kasem. Ryan will continue to anally rape AT40, and at40 Hot AC will probably totally replace AT20..

[John77]

Freaking just get Ryan off the radio period... keep on AI and that's it.

[johnm1120]

Take him off AI too.

[Marv]

It's really a shame that Ryan has destroyed the gold standard of all countdown shows by his incessant and irrelevant interviews, as well as by refusing to mention the title and artist of every song, which has always been complaint #1 of radio listeners for years.

Casey always mentioned the title and artist of every song on 'AT 40' and and he continues to do so on 'Casey's Top 20'

2007 and especially 2008 were very strong years for the top 40 format, thanks to a very wide variety of great debut singles and solid debut CDs, but you'd never know it because Seacrest won't shut up!!!

Can anyone recommend any entertaining CHR countdown shows which are focused on the music, either by local personalities or syndicated ones besides Seacrest & Dees?

[friday]

Honestly, do you guys think if they replaced Seacrest that they would change the format of the show back to the way it was before?