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Post by pen on Jun 1, 2009 14:45:56 GMT -5
Rev Theory - Far From Over
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 1, 2009 15:41:02 GMT -5
I had that, and it was a very close second place. It charted, then fell off for two weeks, during that time Lowlife debuted. I guess it is the only current one charting. But I may have missed one from a CD I don't have.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 1, 2009 21:45:24 GMT -5
I'd guess Call Me would fail miserably on rock radio. Besides, not too many last songs on an album get released. I love how out of all the songs mentioned in the Shinedown topic, "45" gets omitted.
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Post by pen on Jun 2, 2009 0:09:00 GMT -5
I'd guess Call Me would fail miserably on rock radio. Besides, not too many last songs on an album get released. I love how out of all the songs mentioned in the Shinedown topic, "45" gets omitted. Ha! Nice one.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 2, 2009 15:53:55 GMT -5
Yeah, didn't notice that either.
I'm betting This Afternoon will be the next last song to chart.
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Post by lockebox on Jun 2, 2009 16:35:34 GMT -5
I doubt that Nickelback will release "This Afternoon" ahead of "Shakin' Hands", "Next Go Round", "Just to Get High", etc. It may well be one of the finer cuts on the album, but I don't see them releasing it at all really. Will most likely remain as an decent album track. So, I would rule that one out ha.
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Post by Ron57 on Jun 2, 2009 19:39:38 GMT -5
I doubt that Nickelback will release "This Afternoon" ahead of "Shakin' Hands", "Next Go Round", "Just to Get High", etc. It may well be one of the finer cuts on the album, but I don't see them releasing it at all really. Will most likely remain as an decent album track. So, I would rule that one out ha. I wouldn't rule it out. They've been actually playing it at all their shows, and haven't been playing any of the other 3 you've mentioned. Plus I think it stands out more than any of those other songs. (I'm personally not a fan of any of those 3)
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 2, 2009 20:15:21 GMT -5
Thanks, but I'll stick with my bet. This is the return to country rock since before their label days. "Last call you sons of bitches" will even chart them on C&W possibly. This is the track that will break them from their sex / love / redemption cycle of singles.
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Post by pen on Jun 2, 2009 20:25:54 GMT -5
Thanks, but I'll stick with my bet. This is the return to country rock since before their label days. "Last call you sons of b***hes" will even chart them on C&W possibly. This is the track that will break them from their sex / love / redemption cycle of singles. Nickelback was never country rock so I'm not sure how it's a return to anything, and I think breaking the sex cycle with a song about drinking isn't a step up.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 3, 2009 19:55:23 GMT -5
^Alternative/Active aren't gonna be all over "country rock" anyway - if they didn't like ITWYLD, really don't think they're gonna jump on This Afternoon - HAC might but IMO not ahead of Never Gonna Be Alone
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Post by Gravity. on Jun 3, 2009 20:45:44 GMT -5
If Nickelback doesn't release Never Gonna Be Alone to HAC, they have completely lost it. That song screams HAC hit. Shakin' Hands is my favourite from the album, but I don't know if they'll release that or not.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 4, 2009 11:24:37 GMT -5
Rockstar was their last and biggest attempt at country rock, if you will. And it barely dented Modern if I remember right. This Afternoon won't score high on Modern, but it will on its rock counterparts and possibly CHR. Back to topic, I think Shinedown's Call Me could have a similar path.
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Post by pen on Jun 4, 2009 14:36:34 GMT -5
I really wouldn't consider "Rockstar" to be country rock, but okay.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 4, 2009 14:48:34 GMT -5
On another note: "Second Chance" is now number one on HAC.
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Post by pen on Jun 4, 2009 15:02:25 GMT -5
Well there goes Shinedown's alternative career.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 5, 2009 15:26:03 GMT -5
It did not hurt Green Day too bad, although the backlash is starting to hit. I think Shinedown will survive nicely.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 5, 2009 21:25:38 GMT -5
Well there goes Shinedown's alternative career. Actually think Shinedown's gonna be under a lot of pressure, esp. if they get more than one CHR hit from this CD...CHR is basically starving for rock right now (and Nickelback and Daughtry don't seem to be doin it) - someone's gonna want them to become the next big CHR rock band IMO...whether or not they'll do it...dunno - think it's similar though to the position Nickelback was in in 2005
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jun 6, 2009 2:39:13 GMT -5
I really wouldn't consider "Rockstar" to be country rock, but okay. Clearly, CMT disagreed with you. ;)
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 6, 2009 7:53:27 GMT -5
...whether or not they'll do it...dunno - think it's similar though to the position Nickelback was in in 2005 Im not sure Shinedown would envy that position to be honest.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 6, 2009 13:41:12 GMT -5
^Yeah same...only thing is when you get all that $$$$ thrown at you from someone that wants you to be the next CHR-crossover band, just wonder if they'll hold their ground - back in '01 I never would've guessed Chad Kroeger would've wanted to write songs like Why Don't You And I, Far Away, and Gotta Be Somebody
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 6, 2009 13:59:58 GMT -5
^Yeah same...only thing is when you get all that $$$$ thrown at you from someone that wants you to be the next CHR-crossover band, just wonder if they'll hold their ground - back in '01 I never would've guessed Chad Kroeger would've wanted to write songs like Why Don't You And I, Far Away, and Gotta Be Somebody Come on, do you really think Chad Kroeger, the guy who owns his own record label, was forced to write those songs against his will. I think that was more of his change in a softer direction, rather any pressure by anyone. They were never slipknot, they always had soft songs, like "How You Remind Me" , "Someday" , "Feelin' Way Too Damn Good" etc. They have siad it many times before that they made "The Long Road" and "All the Right Reaons" by themselves. No deadline or pressure. The Santana songs ("Into the Night" and "Why Dont You and I") especially are a showcasing of Chad going out on his own and collabrating with Carlos and showing his interest in softer music.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 6, 2009 15:08:09 GMT -5
^Yeah same...only thing is when you get all that $$$$ thrown at you from someone that wants you to be the next CHR-crossover band, just wonder if they'll hold their ground - back in '01 I never would've guessed Chad Kroeger would've wanted to write songs like Why Don't You And I, Far Away, and Gotta Be Somebody Come on, do you really think Chad Kroeger, the guy who owns his own record label, was forced to write those songs against his will. Naw I was assuming he did want to write all those songs...I meant that from hearin Chad's early stuff I never would've guessed that he had that pop-songwriting side to him, so you never know with Shinedown
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 7, 2009 9:57:20 GMT -5
Nobody, especially Shinedown, would turn down the success the likes of Nickelback. That's the foundation of rock 'n roll I guess. But Second Chance may just be a fluke popular hit that will never happen again for them.
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Post by Gravity. on Jun 7, 2009 13:35:50 GMT -5
I really wouldn't consider "Rockstar" to be country rock, but okay. Clearly, CMT disagreed with you. ;) CMT also played Colbie Caillat's Bubbly and Realize all summer last year.
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Post by Cody on Jun 7, 2009 13:57:02 GMT -5
Nobody, especially Shinedown, would turn down the success the likes of Nickelback. That's the foundation of rock 'n roll I guess. But Second Chance may just be a fluke popular hit that will never happen again for them. Rare intelligent post from you, I actually agree, though Im hoping Shinedown can score some more pop hits
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 7, 2009 15:32:54 GMT -5
I think they seem to have a unique sound (vocals especially) that is proving sucessful for them. It was evident with "I Dare You" and now more so with "Second Chance", that would suggest they might have further success.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 7, 2009 22:20:35 GMT -5
But I think the bigger question is does Shinedown want the huge CHR success? Second Chance has given them a taste, but I'm not sure they're cut out for that like Nickelback is.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 13, 2009 0:17:45 GMT -5
This is the third song in history to have completed a Billboard "Hat Trick" (Yeah, I'm just now learning of this too). Apparently, one of billboard's hat tricks (assuming there's more than one, don't really know, this could be the only one) involves the Mainstream Rock Chart, the Modern Rock Chart, and the Adult top 40 chart. Basically, when a song hits number one on all 3 charts, they are granted the hat trick. The other two songs? "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and "One Headlight." Not bad company.
To give you an idea, "How You Remind Me" missed out when it peaked at number 2 on the Adult Top 40 chart. Pretty cool, I guess.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 13, 2009 23:57:15 GMT -5
I don't think the "hat trick" is anything but a manipulation of statistics. But I wonder what will happen when all three of those charts no longer exist as they are now.
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Post by Cody on Jun 14, 2009 8:26:35 GMT -5
well why doesnt the Top 40 Mainstream Chart count
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