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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 20, 2009 14:36:52 GMT -5
I'm going to argue that more markets does not mean more accurate. While I often like the playlists on small market stations better as they don't have as much of a pressure for high ratings in the market to survive, the inclusion of small-market stations in the survey allows for a single spin of audience of 200 people to count the same as a spin on KROQ. And while I'll probably like what the Podunk station is playing better, it makes the chart a less accurate measure of what's popular nationwide. While BDS has the same problem, it's to a far lesser extent, as the station has to have a decent "metro" area to which it's broadcasting to be monitored.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 21, 2009 22:09:53 GMT -5
You make a fair point. But keep in mind Billboard airplay charts are created for radio stations, not chart fans.
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Post by pen on Jun 21, 2009 22:15:26 GMT -5
Why would a radio station need to know what other radio stations are playing? And before anyone answers that, I know the answer already: so that they know what they should be playing. And honestly, I wish more radio stations would just pick their own playlists. It would make radio so much more interesting.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 21, 2009 22:20:22 GMT -5
Two words. Industry performance. You've narrowed it to a small portion.
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Post by pen on Jun 21, 2009 22:23:21 GMT -5
Well I could tell them how the industry is doing. Badly.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 21, 2009 22:52:02 GMT -5
Theirs is based on data. Yours is merely opinion. But other than satellite radio, I agree.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 21, 2009 22:53:01 GMT -5
I like that satellite radio plays nearly everything that goes for adds. That way their listeners get exposed to the choices, and theoretically, they have more say in what they actually want to listen to.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 22, 2009 11:35:20 GMT -5
Fewer commercials helps to squeeze a few dozen more songs per day.
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Post by fran182 on Jun 22, 2009 13:07:28 GMT -5
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 23, 2009 21:16:38 GMT -5
The longest run to the top ten by a band ever on the Hot 100 turned my head when I read that too. And if the "Mainstream 40" chart represents a lot of what CHR does, I guess they did make it to #3.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 14, 2009 10:46:46 GMT -5
Second Chance this week has just taken over the #1 spot for most played song of 2009 on all three Nielsen rock surveys totalled. It also moves from 19 to 12 on CHR over the past 30 days. This could be December become the most played song on radio period. Impossible to predict when released, and that's more than amazing to me.
I didn't feel the Airplay Bracket pages were the best place to devote one entirely to Shinedown. So with the news of this song becoming the biggest rock song of the year, this may work here.
I have seeded all 10 charting Shinedown singles based on combined peak positions of Active, Heritage, and Alternative charts. The top SIX seeds earned the byes. Instead of the common preset bracket, I will reseed each round like N.H.L.
And despite Second Chance probably ranking as my sixth favorite of the 10, I predict it will win this tourney.
SEEDINGS: #1 Second Chance #2 Save Me #3 Sound Of Madness #4 Devour #5 I Dare You #6 Burning Bright #7 45 #8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside #10 Simple Man
VOTING FOR THIS ROUND:
#8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside
#7 45 #10 Simple Man
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Post by Cody on Jul 14, 2009 12:28:19 GMT -5
I woulda seeded 45 6th and Burning Bright 7th, but ok
#8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside
#7 45 #10 Simple Man
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Post by Matt4319 on Jul 14, 2009 12:40:55 GMT -5
#8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside
#7 45 #10 Simple Man
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Post by lockebox on Jul 14, 2009 12:48:55 GMT -5
This could be a bit one-way.
8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside
#7 45 #10 Simple Man
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Post by PHOBES on Jul 14, 2009 13:33:48 GMT -5
#8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside
#7 45 #10 Simple Man
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 14, 2009 19:43:55 GMT -5
I'll tighten up a little by also choosing Simple Man of 45. But Fly From The Inside gets my vote too.
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Post by Ron57 on Jul 14, 2009 19:46:42 GMT -5
Definitely 45 above Simple Man... And I haven't even heard Heroes. So I gotta go with Fly from the Inside.
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Post by Pipa on Jul 14, 2009 21:00:02 GMT -5
#8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside
#7 45 #10 Simple Man
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 14, 2009 21:26:15 GMT -5
#8 Heroes #9 Fly From The Inside
#7 45 #10 Simple Man
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Post by Matt4319 on Jul 14, 2009 22:35:37 GMT -5
So it's 8-0 FFTI and 6-2 45. Can we move on to the next round?
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 15, 2009 10:40:59 GMT -5
Cody, I did not seed them by my choice. They were ranked by their peaks on the three Nielsen rock charts and Burning Bright peaked higher.
Shinedown singles round two:
#1 Second Chance #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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Post by Matt4319 on Jul 15, 2009 10:58:08 GMT -5
#1 Second Chance (although it's a closer call than it would probably be for most here) #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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Post by Cody on Jul 15, 2009 12:06:58 GMT -5
Artie, Burning Bright both had a #2 peak on Active/BB Mainstream and 45 a #3, and 45 was a #12 on Modern/Alt as oppose to Burning Bright's #22. I may be off a little bit but theres no way whatsoever the Modern/Alt peak gap closes enough for Burning Bright to be considered a bigger hit. peaks of 3 and 12 is bigger than 2 and 22
#1 Second Chance #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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Post by lockebox on Jul 15, 2009 12:17:26 GMT -5
#1 Second Chance #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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Post by PHOBES on Jul 15, 2009 12:25:27 GMT -5
#1 Second Chance #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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Post by Mega248 on Jul 15, 2009 12:45:32 GMT -5
#1 Second Chance #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 15, 2009 13:33:13 GMT -5
#1 Second Chance #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jul 15, 2009 15:33:51 GMT -5
If I had to pick the final four:
#3 Sound Of Madness #9 Fly From The Inside
#4 Devour #7 45
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Post by Cody on Jul 15, 2009 19:13:47 GMT -5
so far it's:
4-3 Second Chance 5-2 Sound Of Madness 5-2 Devour 5-2 45
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Post by Pipa on Jul 15, 2009 19:22:57 GMT -5
#1 Second Chance #9 Fly From The Inside
#2 Save Me #7 45
#3 Sound Of Madness #6 Burning Bright
#4 Devour #5 I Dare You
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