JamaicaFunk²
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Oct 22, 2005 12:20:51 GMT -5
who cares about just the pop chart? it's bragging rights, but really not a big deal.
what are going to be the top 5 songs of the year over all?
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Post by britrocks16 on Oct 22, 2005 12:23:19 GMT -5
^We Belong Together will easily be the #1 song overall.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Oct 22, 2005 12:50:32 GMT -5
^We Belong Together will easily be the #1 song overall. that's what i like to hear.
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Post by top40dj on Oct 22, 2005 18:53:09 GMT -5
1) SUBG 2) BTHE 3) WBT 4) 1,2S 5) BOBD
This is what I'm gathering....am I mistaken??
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Post by mst3k on Oct 22, 2005 20:07:30 GMT -5
who cares about just the pop chart Well, this is the CHR/Pop forum, after all. :)
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Post by Marv on Oct 22, 2005 22:47:37 GMT -5
As I mentioned earlier, do not be surprised if 1-2 Step winds up #2 for the year, due to its December spins, but 'SUBG' will unquestionably be #1 for 2005.
Regarding the 'superior female' issue, I'm delighted that Ms. Carey has had such a spectacular comeback; the fact that she was a 20-year old neophyte when 'Vision Of Love' hit #1 boggles my mind.
But I do agree that the females who were HUGE at both CHR/Pop and AC in the early nineties when Ms. Carey exploded are MUCH better singers than Ms. Clarkson's competition at today's CHR/Pop.
I'm not trying to disaparage Ms. Clarkson, but I just happen to feel that 1990 was an exceptional year for female vocalists, and no year since then has even come close, although 1989 & 1991 weren't too shabby either for females.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 22, 2005 23:00:14 GMT -5
who cares about just the pop chart Well, this is the CHR/Pop forum, after all. :) If a certain chart doesnt favor some peoples favorite artist, all of a sudden its not even worth discussing. Thats just the way it is for some people.
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Post by britrocks16 on Oct 23, 2005 0:05:55 GMT -5
Well on tonights update...Kelly passed Mariah :'( Looks like Kelly will easily get 2 songs in the Top 3 and definetly #1 and maybe #2 (I still think Ciara will take #2 though).
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Post by babyboylrtm on Oct 23, 2005 0:08:21 GMT -5
Go Kelly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO at you having 1,000 posts already
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Post by britrocks16 on Oct 23, 2005 0:32:10 GMT -5
Go Kelly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO at you having 1,000 posts already LOL!
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Post by die Lotterie on Oct 23, 2005 1:41:41 GMT -5
Well on tonights update...Kelly passed Mariah :'( Looks like Kelly will easily get 2 songs in the Top 3 and definetly #1 and maybe #2 (I still think Ciara will take #2 though). Sipping Bailey's Cream By the stereo Trying to find relief On the radio I'm suppressing the tears But they start to flow 'Cause the next song I hear Is a song I wrote Getting Surpassed On the top 100 by Kelly
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Post by Adz on Oct 23, 2005 3:22:21 GMT -5
Hollaback Girl will be top 5 by years end.
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Post by thirddegree50123 on Oct 23, 2005 9:44:23 GMT -5
???I'm confused here. On my YTD chart, Kelly is still about 2000 spins behind Mariah and Gwen is 20000 spins away from passing Ciara for top 5. Am I looking at something different? If not, Pussycat Dolls look likely to pass Black Eyed Peas for #10. :'(
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Post by MinusName on Oct 23, 2005 9:52:42 GMT -5
I don't know how Gwen Stefani would make the top 5, she barely made 20 weeks on the chart, sure she had some 9000+ weeks but I don't think that's going to get her a top 5 finish, top 10 is possible.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Oct 23, 2005 10:59:54 GMT -5
Well, this is the CHR/Pop forum, after all. :) If a certain chart doesnt favor some peoples favorite artist, all of a sudden its not even worth discussing. Thats just the way it is for some people. favorite artist? i own the top 6's albums. i'd say it favors my favorite artists quite nicely. and i'll discuss the top 100 on pop radio any time.
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Post by pce2b on Oct 23, 2005 19:14:21 GMT -5
Point is, Kelly is a pop singer and regardless of the competition from females, males or bands in 2005, she is the pop act of the year. Credit where credit is due I say. 4 huge hit singles with tons of spins and ridiculous longevity. I wish the stats extended to hot 100 overall, but they dont, so you take what you can get, and Kelly's stats in her genre are impressive to say the least.
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Post by top40dj on Oct 24, 2005 11:05:54 GMT -5
Remember 2003? Jennifer Lopez had 4 songs in the top 100...now this year its Kelly....I perfer Kelly :)
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 24, 2005 11:53:15 GMT -5
Hollaback Girl will be top 5 by years end. How? She's #6 right now, and all of the 5 songs ahead of her either have a large enough margin (e.g., WBT and BTHE) or have December spins to be factored in as well (the other songs in the top 5). Based on what I see, Hollaback Girl will likely be #8 or #9 for the year. Have you even looked at the Year To Date Chart?
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Post by joyride on Oct 24, 2005 13:03:45 GMT -5
my predictions:
top 5 yearend 1.WBT 2.SUBG 3.BOBD 4.BTHE 5.1,2 STEP and mark my words,err...post...December spins are always killer slow jams!
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 24, 2005 13:19:30 GMT -5
my predictions: top 5 yearend 1.WBT 2.SUBG 3.BOBD 4.BTHE 5.1,2 STEP and mark my words,err...post...December spins are always killer slow jams! I think you may be confused... the December spins are from December 2004, not December 2005. There is NO WAY WBT will get ahead of SUBG in the next month.
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Post by MinusName on Oct 24, 2005 15:35:31 GMT -5
^^^ 2 posts up (Sorry, my stupid right click button isn't working)
It is basically impossible for "WBT" to catch-up to "SUBG" unless Mariah started getting like 6000 spins a week again, and even if that happened (which it won't) she would still be cutting it close. Why can't people just accept the fact that your Queen Mariah will not be #1 this year even if she did spend the most weeks at #1. It is pretty clear that most of the longest running #1's don't make #1 for the year, several #1 songs of the year don't even make #1 period. Is there a problem with Kelly Clarkson being #1 and having 2 songs in the top 5? You know that if it were Mariah a lot of you would be having a huge party (not like you don't already have something to celebrate) Some people need to accept the fact that there are some people (yes, it is hard to believe) who would prefer Kelly over Mariah anyday - case in point, yours truly. ;) Go Kelly! You deserve all the success you've gotten this year and more!
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Post by die Lotterie on Oct 24, 2005 18:04:38 GMT -5
Because to many, it feels like Mariah deserves it with WBT.
Either way, I'm glad because I still like Kelly.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Oct 24, 2005 18:19:44 GMT -5
I don't mind giving kelly a year...... compared to mariah's many.......
even though some of us prefer kelly over mariah, or mariah over kelly........... i at least prefer kelly over anyone else!!!! (i.e. gwen, green day, coldplay, 50, pussycat girly girls, etc.)
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Post by cking33 on Oct 24, 2005 23:50:45 GMT -5
It's too bad that WBT fell pretty steeply, because it stayed in the 8000 + spin range for a lonnnnnng time. Well it fell steeply b/c she's released two singles, SIO and DFAU in the same time-span that other artists have only put out one.
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Post by Marv on Oct 25, 2005 16:25:36 GMT -5
But the fact remains that 'SUBG' had a THREE-MONTH head start on 'WBT' (including December 2004 spins), which is why KC will finish at #1. There have been some years where the number one single of the year came out much later, but with the chart methodology which R&R used, December spins in any given year are VERY important in determining year-end results. Even with the unprecedented SPSPW (Spins Per Station Per Week) which 'Over & Over' enjoyed during its stay at #1 in R&R, its late fall release was too early for it to finish at Billie last year, even considering the fact that it barely clared NINETY percent of R&Rs reporters. If 'WBT' had been released in mid- February and racked up airplay numbers similar to what it did this past summer, it would have easily wound up #1 for the year, as Jennifer mentioned.
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Post by MinusName on Oct 25, 2005 19:33:13 GMT -5
"We Belong Together" would be the #1 song of the year in a year to year period which someone usually updates once a month, I'm guessing she'd probably be #1 in the May-May period. So really there are usually 12 #1 songs a year, but Mariah will probably be #1 for more than just 1 month because she was at #1 for 11 weeks, so she could very well be #1 for all of May-May through July-July (maybe even August-August). It does suck that not every artist gets recognized as having the #1 song during a 12-month period, like "My Happy Ending" which was the #1 song of the year during a 12-month period earlier this year. A year-end chart should be done every month!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2005 19:36:32 GMT -5
Year-end charts aren't really meant to be a list of the biggest songs to come out of a certain year. It's a list of the songs with the most spins from January to December, nothing more, nothing less. People place too much value on it because they become fans of the chart. It's just a list of spins over a designated 12 month period.
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Post by Marv on Oct 26, 2005 11:32:50 GMT -5
As I stated earlier, R&R's chart year ENDS with the Mediabase report which ends at mifnight (EST) on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
THAT's why December spins mean a LOT, & another reason why 'SUBG' will be #1 for the year.
A similar episode took place in 2002, when 'Complicated' was #1 for eight weeks, but couldn't catch 'When I'm Gone' by Three Doors Down for the same reason; it came out too late.
You could CERTAINLY make a case that both 'Complicated' and 'WBT' were the TRUE #1 singles of their respective years, and you're VERY likely to have LOTS of folks agreeing with you!!!!
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Post by Hervard on Oct 26, 2005 12:04:04 GMT -5
A similar episode took place in 2002, when 'Complicated' was #1 for eight weeks, but couldn't catch 'When I'm Gone' by Three Doors Down for the same reason; it came out too late. You could CERTAINLY make a case that both 'Complicated' and 'WBT' were the TRUE #1 singles of their respective years, and you're VERY likely to have LOTS of folks agreeing with you!!!! Of course "Complicated" couldn't gain more points than "When I'm Gone". It had pretty much run its course by the time 2003 began. Or were you talking about a different song? I'm confused by the two above paragraphs.
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Post by Longshot on Oct 26, 2005 13:06:51 GMT -5
Ok, I'm confused. Which song will be overall year-end #1 and which will be Pop #1?
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