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Post by EvanJ on Oct 7, 2008 19:06:47 GMT -5
Today Radio and Records reports that starting Monday October 13, "On-Air With Ryan Seacrest" will air on WHTZ from 10:00 A.M. to 1:00 P.M. Shelley Wade will be moved to 2:00 A.M.-5:00 A.M.
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Post by threedollafoaholla on Oct 8, 2008 11:01:12 GMT -5
It's a sad day for radio when the nation's largest market loses a live and local talent in a rated daypart. Shelley Wade is a great talent and does not deserve to be shuffled off into overnights. I'd rather see Z100 adopt a 6-10, 10-1, 1-3, 3-7, 7-10, 10-2A setup for their shifts and have Shelley do the 1-3P.
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Post by johnm1120 on Oct 8, 2008 14:28:50 GMT -5
BOO! I like Shelley! TO replace her with HIM??? EWWWWW
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 19, 2008 20:56:50 GMT -5
Poor Shelley.
She's been there for 7 years so they probably want to get rid of her so they can hire someone else for cheaper pay.
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Post by nitro on Oct 19, 2008 23:42:06 GMT -5
Shelley was my favorite DJ on Z100. That's so sad that they're losing her. They should have replaced Elvis Duran with Seacrest... he annoys me so much now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2008 23:43:29 GMT -5
Shelley was my favorite DJ at Z100, and I'd usually only listen to Z100 during her shift. That's really sad. I used to send her e-mails, and she'd always personally reply and answer my questions. I'll miss her.
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Post by MJM on Oct 20, 2008 9:39:34 GMT -5
Poor Shelley. She's been there for 7 years so they probably want to get rid of her so they can hire someone else for cheaper pay. I don't think they will be paying Ryan Seacrest less than they do Shelly Wade.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 20, 2008 15:23:05 GMT -5
^I'm talking about the night shift. She is probably way overpaid for the night shift.
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Post by John77 on Oct 20, 2008 15:42:20 GMT -5
When will these corporate bean counters EVER learn? Oh, never...
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Post by Slinky on Oct 20, 2008 15:57:27 GMT -5
I don't think they will be paying Ryan Seacrest less than they do Shelly Wade. I think the Seacrest show is supposed to be cheaper than a live jock. That's one of the reasons it's catching on.
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Post by John77 on Oct 21, 2008 10:39:53 GMT -5
I don't think they will be paying Ryan Seacrest less than they do Shelly Wade. I think the Seacrest show is supposed to be cheaper than a live jock. That's one of the reasons it's catching on. All the more reason why stations shouldn't be doing this... I already had to tolerate him on KIIS... now one of my Hot AC's has his show on... Incompetent idiot beancounters!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 21, 2008 12:21:16 GMT -5
Z100's morning show is now broadcast on 3-4 different stations.
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Post by John77 on Oct 22, 2008 1:50:50 GMT -5
Z100's morning show is now broadcast on 3-4 different stations. At the rate we're going, in 5 years we will have the 3-4 morning shows playing across the country and syndicated programming running the rest of the days with no "real DJ's" at the stations...
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Post by Marv on Oct 22, 2008 15:09:48 GMT -5
It's not 'catching on'; it's being stuffed down the throats of CHR PDs by a company whose #1 obssession is saving money and pleasing the actuaries on Wall Street, as opposed to serving the listening audiences whom they are required to serve, and serves as the foundation for their federally-mandated requirement to serve the public interest.
That's one extremely stupid Hot AC programmer who's airing this CHR-Pop formatted show on his/her station.
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Post by beejus on Oct 23, 2008 9:49:43 GMT -5
That's one extremely stupid Hot AC programmer who's airing this CHR-Pop formatted show on his/her station. Eh... not REALLY. The show can be formatted musically to fit your station's sound. Sure... Seacrest's guests and topics are more CHR sounding... but for some Hot ACs out there, it may fit pretty well. That being said... I hope the show absolutely tanks so the big corporations realize they can't just axe a local jock and insert syndication. In Philly... they cut Booker's morning show for Elvis Duran piped in from NYC... and Booker was at or close to #1 in many big demos. Booker said it himself. "I've been fired before... but not for being #1."
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Post by johnm1120 on Oct 23, 2008 14:34:20 GMT -5
In Miami they forced Footy to retire after over 30 years and replaced him with Elvis Duran.
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Post by John77 on Oct 23, 2008 16:26:54 GMT -5
That's one extremely stupid Hot AC programmer who's airing this CHR-Pop formatted show on his/her station. Eh... not REALLY. The show can be formatted musically to fit your station's sound. Sure... Seacrest's guests and topics are more CHR sounding... but for some Hot ACs out there, it may fit pretty well. That being said... I hope the show absolutely tanks so the big corporations realize they can't just axe a local jock and insert syndication. In Philly... they cut Booker's morning show for Elvis Duran piped in from NYC... and Booker was at or close to #1 in many big demos. Booker said it himself. "I've been fired before... but not for being #1." Actually, it really sounds out of place on my Hot AC, ("Live 105.5" KFYV)... the songs are fine, but the topics and other stuff just don't mesh very well with the DJ's and the rest of the dayparts. I'm actually listening to them a lot less now during that daypart. Just as I'm listening to KBIG a lot less now during the 7-minight daypart now that they have a nationally syndicated show there. These bean counters simply don't get it. The listeners WANT local programming and people/DJ's they can relate to, not Hollywood people that they could care less about or not relate to... This Seacrest stuff may work for a short while in a large market like L.A. or N.Y., but in smaller market such as Oxnard-Ventura-Santa Barbara??? Heck no!
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Post by threedollafoaholla on Oct 24, 2008 12:09:35 GMT -5
They're trying to push Seacrest down our throats, but I haven't budged yet... and have no intention of doing so. Nobody else in my market is likely to pick it up, so I'm not in any hurry to even THINK about reconsidering.
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Post by John77 on Oct 24, 2008 17:06:12 GMT -5
They're trying to push Seacrest down our throats, but I haven't budged yet... and have no intention of doing so. Nobody else in my market is likely to pick it up, so I'm not in any hurry to even THINK about reconsidering. Kudos, threedolla! Hopefully things won't change in your market anytime soon...
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Post by banks on Oct 24, 2008 18:36:55 GMT -5
My station runs AT40 and OHP (Saturday and Sunday), but there's no plans to pick up "On Air" anytime soon.
Ryan's TV show was a flop, so there's hope this (and Billy Bush on Cume-less) would follow suit and bomb too. The bean counters need to realize that people don't watch Idol for Seacrest and this is part and parcel as to why radio's in decline, at the stock market, in monthly revenues, and in essence, in the minds of its audience.
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Post by Marv on Oct 24, 2008 23:51:20 GMT -5
Billy Bush's show is nothing more than a four-hour 'Entertainment Tonight' style radio show, with very safe music which is horrendously over-researched, and with gold and/or recurrent tunes which are burnt to a crisp.
The #1 reason that Seacrest's show won't work on a Hot AC station is because KIIS plays very little rock music, and is very fixated on English-speaking Hispanic females in their late twenties and thirties.
He could certainly do another show with a radically different playlist for Hot AC stations, but I'm not aware of him doing that.
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Post by John77 on Oct 25, 2008 1:35:05 GMT -5
Billy Bush's show is nothing more than a four-hour 'Entertainment Tonight' style radio show, with very safe music which is horrendously over-researched, and with gold and/or recurrent tunes which are burnt to a crisp. The #1 reason that Seacrest's show won't work on a Hot AC station is because KIIS plays very little rock music, and is very fixated on English-speaking Hispanic females in their late twenties and thirties. He could certainly do another show with a radically different playlist for Hot AC stations, but I'm not aware of him doing that. Well said, Marv. I was going touch a little deeper on the Billy Bush (KBIG) stuff this weekend, but you summed it up nicely. Great point about the "Seacrest demo" as opposed to the Hot AC target demo as well. It's too bad our unfriendly beancounters can't see it.
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Post by Slinky on Oct 25, 2008 16:23:51 GMT -5
He could certainly do another show with a radically different playlist for Hot AC stations, but I'm not aware of him doing that. The Seacrest show comes in two different forms: 1) With pre-programmed music 2) With music programmed by the local PD. Hot AC's (and even most CHRs) run the second version. They basically just put Seacrest's voice tracks between their own programmed music.
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Post by Marv on Oct 25, 2008 23:49:56 GMT -5
If they do run the second version, how can they mix his dialogue/intros/backselling with the PDs and/or MDs choosing the music?
Given his abominable and unconscionable destruction of 'AT40' by ignoring the mentioning of the song titles and the artists, those PDs and MDs are hopefully comfortable with his horrendous on-air material, even as they try to make the pieces fit.
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Post by tico on Oct 26, 2008 11:48:13 GMT -5
It's a very sad day when a local, major-market personality is replaced or moved to a different shift for a canned voicetrack. Why couldn't Z100 put Seacrest on at 2am?
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Post by radioguru979 on Oct 27, 2008 6:32:56 GMT -5
Damn for real?!?! I liked her man!
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Oct 28, 2008 11:45:48 GMT -5
If they do run the second version, how can they mix his dialogue/intros/backselling with the PDs and/or MDs choosing the music? All segments of On-Air come without any backselling or promo-ing of upcoming music, so that any station can air the segments between any song. However, Seacrest also has a folder of "song backsells" so that if the station happens to have a song coming up after Seacrest, they can attach the "song intro" to the voice track so that it sounds like he's actually introducing the song. Some stations take advantage of the song backsells and intros, while others don't.
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Post by MJM on Oct 28, 2008 12:28:15 GMT -5
It's a very sad day when a local, major-market personality is replaced or moved to a different shift for a canned voicetrack.
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Post by Slinky on Oct 28, 2008 12:40:13 GMT -5
If they do run the second version, how can they mix his dialogue/intros/backselling with the PDs and/or MDs choosing the music? All segments of On-Air come without any backselling or promo-ing of upcoming music, so that any station can air the segments between any song. However, Seacrest also has a folder of "song backsells" so that if the station happens to have a song coming up after Seacrest, they can attach the "song intro" to the voice track so that it sounds like he's actually introducing the song. Some stations take advantage of the song backsells and intros, while others don't. That's sort of what I figured about the back-selling. I remember they used to do that with Carson Daly's syndicated "Most Requested" show for stations that wanted to run their own music. It was pretty noticeable on Daly's show; all of the backsells had the exact same inflection in the voice, and they didn't really flow into the next thing Carson said. I haven't gotten much of a chance to listen to Seacrest's new show yet, but I would bet they sound similar.
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Post by allow that on Oct 29, 2008 13:04:04 GMT -5
That really sucks. Shelley is one of their most popular DJ's and with Z100 on her resume, I'm sure another major market will pick her up in no time for a shift that she actually deserves.
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