Robert J
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Post by Robert J on Feb 26, 2006 9:02:21 GMT -5
You've proven nothing to me about why my CHR/Pop chart analysis is flawed... I predicted a #9 peak for this song and it looks like I'm going to be close to right on... it it peaks at 7, 8 or 9, I don't really care... you're being very nit-picky... Funny how that really isn't what you've said in the past, and that you made the post around when the song moved up to #8.
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Post by Focus on Feb 26, 2006 10:17:18 GMT -5
It's lookin' real good for WA
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Post by 7thfairway on Feb 26, 2006 10:42:53 GMT -5
I'd also appreciate it if you'd take back that "dunce hat" statement... it's very inappropriate as I have a full head of hair and God willing, I'll NEVER have a need for hats... Well John77 I'm not gonna take it back because you've earned it fair and square. Without a total coplapse WA is solidly headed top 4 or 5 easy and who knows what the video will do for it so your Dunce hat got handed to you. Errr....was it the right size?
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Post by britneyrules on Feb 26, 2006 10:52:41 GMT -5
Ohhhh snappppp!
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Post by MusicJunkie on Feb 26, 2006 10:56:51 GMT -5
I can't believe some of you predict a peak lower than top 5 for this song. This is SO going top 5 for sure.
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Post by Gui393 on Feb 26, 2006 12:06:46 GMT -5
I WANT THE VIDEO RIGHT NOW!!!!!
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Post by musiclives on Feb 26, 2006 12:55:08 GMT -5
For those who said it would peak at #9, HA! Already #8 and growing more and more, it also moved up alot on Itunes where it sets at #24, from in the 40s!
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Post by rpclarksonswimmer1 on Feb 26, 2006 13:06:38 GMT -5
This is from Idol Forums:
According to a radio interview of Mr. Joseph Kahn (Behind These Hazel Eyes---Walk Away), "Walk Away" will not be premiering on TRL this week (Feb 27-March 3). He said that it will need a little more touching up because of the special effects but TRL does have the Video that wasn't touched up! So we can expect it probably March 6th or later in March! And I myself checked the schedule for TRL this week and Kelly premiere is not on it! So better have a little more patience!
It also said to not be surprised if Kelly or Kahn give the go ahead for TRL to premiere the un-touched up version. we are looking at a March 6 - March 10 release date for the final cut.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Feb 26, 2006 13:11:07 GMT -5
They should just wait for the week of Mar. 6 to release the final cut. It's not that far away anyways. But it still sucks we STILL have to keep on waiting.
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Post by Gui393 on Feb 26, 2006 13:24:35 GMT -5
UGH! It sucks. I can't wait so long.
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Post by musiclives on Feb 26, 2006 13:28:10 GMT -5
Up to #22 on Itunes!
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Post by britrocks16 on Feb 26, 2006 13:32:27 GMT -5
The song will probably peak by March 6.
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Post by MinusName on Feb 26, 2006 13:34:53 GMT -5
The bullet is slowly rising again, I don't think this will peak until the end of March/first of April.
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Post by Lee on Feb 26, 2006 13:52:35 GMT -5
Fall Out Boy, All-American Rejects, and Pussycat Dolls will be passed within a week or two putting this song in the Top 5, if that happens it will be Kelly's SEVENTH Top 5 Pop Hit
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Post by clem on Feb 26, 2006 13:58:10 GMT -5
Fall Out Boy, All-American Rejects, and Pussycat Dolls will be passed within a week or two putting this song in the Top 5, if that happens it will be Kelly's SEVENTH Top 5 Pop Hit w00t!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 26, 2006 14:07:24 GMT -5
And good to see it moving up on Itunes even before the video is released! Looks like Kelly has another hit to her name :)
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Post by britneyrules on Feb 26, 2006 14:08:59 GMT -5
Special Effects?????
What's he gonna make another "Toxic" except Kelly Clarkson-ized???????
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Focus
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Post by Focus on Feb 26, 2006 14:15:26 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure special effects weren't invented by Joseph Khan for Britney Spears. ;)
This video sounds interesting. Can't wait!!
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Post by Filthy Pop on Feb 26, 2006 14:47:38 GMT -5
I'm glad it wasn't out yet at least we didn't get something all rushed and thrown together. This will definitely be worth the wait.
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Post by musiclives on Feb 26, 2006 18:31:27 GMT -5
Walk Away is now up to #20 on Itunes! :):)
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Post by Mariam on Feb 26, 2006 23:36:39 GMT -5
Darn it--thats a long wait. Every time I think a video doesnt sound like it would need special effects it somehow does. So maybe not for another 2 weeks--ugh. I know it hasnt hurt her in the past, but wow some I just dont know what team Clarkson is thinking. But I guess they've gotten it right so far.
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Post by John77 on Feb 27, 2006 3:27:15 GMT -5
Hurt me, make me want to write bad checks... this one has exceeded my peak position prediction by a spot. To quote Keith Urban... "tonight I wanna cry"! :'(
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Post by John77 on Feb 27, 2006 3:28:39 GMT -5
I'd also appreciate it if you'd take back that "dunce hat" statement... it's very inappropriate as I have a full head of hair and God willing, I'll NEVER have a need for hats... Well John77 I'm not gonna take it back because you've earned it fair and square. Without a total coplapse WA is solidly headed top 4 or 5 easy and who knows what the video will do for it so your Dunce hat got handed to you. Errr....was it the right size? Once again, I'm not going to lower myself to your level, 7th Fairway.
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Post by John77 on Feb 27, 2006 3:35:13 GMT -5
You've proven nothing to me about why my CHR/Pop chart analysis is flawed... I predicted a #9 peak for this song and it looks like I'm going to be close to right on... it it peaks at 7, 8 or 9, I don't really care... you're being very nit-picky... Funny how that really isn't what you've said in the past, and that you made the post around when the song moved up to #8. I've never said my prediction is a guarantee.... you're expecting a little much of me there, Robert J. ;) For the record, I made that post when the song was still #9... I could care less where this song peaks, but it's sad that a couple of people (not you) have to flame me on this thread just because I disagree with them and am "sticking to my guns".
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Post by 7thfairway on Feb 27, 2006 9:22:30 GMT -5
I could care less where this song peaks, but it's sad that a couple of people (not you) have to flame me on this thread just because I disagree with them and am "sticking to my guns". John77, I'm not picking on you or bashing you - just enlightening you. You're stated chart methodology is deeply flawed because its doesn't take into account extemporaneous factors. The only reason WA isn't top 5 now is because WHTZ (Z100) in New York, the BIGGEST Pop station in america, is playing GONE as the next single instead of WA. Heres todays chart from Z100: 1 1 MARY J. BLIGE Be Without You 101 96 5 10.3321 2 2 CASCADA Everytime We Touch 98 94 4 9.705 4 3 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 81 60 21 8.5277 3 4 NE-YO So Sick 62 76 -14 5.8615 36 5 SEAN PAUL Temperature 62 14 48 6.1296 10 6 RIHANNA SOS 55 49 6 5.3107 9 7 YING YANG TWINS Shake f/Pitbull 55 50 5 4.9026 8 8 JAMES BLUNT You're Beautiful 53 51 2 5.4063 14 9 NICK LACHEY What's Left Of Me 51 41 10 4.9045 11 10 BEYONCE Check On It f/Slim Thug 50 48 2 4.4334 13 11 KELLY CLARKSON Gone 50 46 4 4.8674 5 12 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Stickwitu 46 60 -14 4.6466 15 13 SHAKIRA La Tortura (f/ Alejandro Sanz 46 37 9 4.3282 20 14 FALL OUT BOY Dance, Dance 44 33 11 4.3118 6 15 BLACK EYED PEAS Pump It 43 57 -14 4.0843 7 16 RIHANNA If It's Lovin' That You Want 40 52 -12 3.8942 19 17 RAY J One Wish 37 34 3 3.3433 17 18 STAIND Right Here 35 35 0 3.4734 12 19 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret 34 46 -12 3.6331 21 20 SEAN PAUL We Be Burning (Legalize It) 34 33 1 3.1483 16 21 GWEN STEFANI Crash 34 37 -3 3.1742 22 22 SAVING JANE Girl Next Door 33 31 2 3.1854 23 23 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall, Ali&Gipp) 32 29 3 2.4742 24 24 PINK Stupid Girls 32 28 4 2.9853 25 25 MADHOUSE Like A Prayer 31 27 4 2.9332 42 26 CHRIS BROWN Yo (Excuse Me Miss) 28 9 19 2.5563 30 27 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 27 22 5 2.692 27 28 TEDDY GEIGER For You I Will 26 25 1 2.4641 39 29 GWEN STEFANI Luxurious 26 13 13 2.3395 18 30 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 25 34 -9 2.4997 Clarkson has 3 songs on this chart in the top 30 with total audience impressions of over 10 million - more than anyone except the #1 song by Mary J Blige. This same scenario exists at MANY of the top Pop stations. Clarksons singles have had amazing, UNBELIEVABLE longevity and NO artist in my recent memory, certainly not in this century, has matched her in that distinction. The charts aren't a black and white, numbers only, inanimate object - they live and breathe and get caught up in their own mania and mistakes and it takes a while to work out the kinks. WA will reach the top 5 easily - all you have to do is listen to the song and compare it to its competition in the top 10 to figure that out - forget the actual numbers on the chart. This is Clarksons 75th consecutive week with a song in the top 10 of the Pop charts and WA is going to extend that streak for another 10 weeks with a probable peak in the top 3 - an amazing feat for a 5th single still competing with all of its extremely popular siblings and even a 6th single taking some of its spins and about 5 million of its audience impressions. Natasha is doing great with UNWRITTEN - I love the song - how do you think her 5th single from her album will be doing 14 or 15 months from now? Will it be at #8 with a bullet of +473 headed for a top 3 peak like Clarksons 5th single WA after 21 months and 4 #1s worth of singles releases from one album? You're analysis lacks the depth of historic perspective, impact, experience, and the insight of the LIFE and momentum of the fluid chart conditions.
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Post by OUcultjam on Feb 27, 2006 10:23:51 GMT -5
When I compare this latest single to how BEP, Gwen, Kanye, etc. have done with their latest singles... Walk Away is doing amazingly well. It looks like it will be #5 or 6 with next Sunday's update.
By the way, Breakaway will become THE most played album (across ALL formats) in a matter of weeks when it passes Usher and Maroon 5's albums. That's nothing short of AMAZING.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 27, 2006 10:36:05 GMT -5
John, actually, you said your opinions were the truth, or rather acted as so, and anyone who disagreed is just in denial. I think thats why so many people get annoyed with you, to tell you the truth. Like Gigga said...its all intrepretation and everyone in this thread has a different intrepretation...but no one likes to repeatedly be told that they are in denial of the truth because they think WA will peak somewhere else in comparison to you.
We are all just Kelly fans, right? And in the long run it doesnt really matter if it peaks at #3 or #7...I mean, years from now no one will be lamenting that (At least, I hope not...). Cant we just be happy that to some extent, it is a hit and that Kelly has continued her top 10 streak? I mean, look at all the other artists struggling to go top 30 and Kelly has had how many stretches of weeks in the top 10? Amazing airplay.
That being said, bullet is back UP again, song is on the UP on Itunes, and still no video. SMASH for a fifth single! (In my opinion-not the truth ;) )
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Post by OUcultjam on Feb 27, 2006 11:01:38 GMT -5
John, actually, you said your opinions were the truth, or rather acted as so, and anyone who disagreed is just in denial. Ahh, finally, some truth! That's why I completely ignore the man now.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Feb 27, 2006 11:26:29 GMT -5
In all honesty, I don't think "Walk Away" will go top 3, just because Z100 are being morons. (It's also going to hurt it's Hot 100 peak b/c much of their huge audience isn't going to it). There are quite a few lemming stations in smaller markets that basically follow whatever they do, and if they don't see Z100 upping spins for WA they might decide not to either. I might have to revise my prediction and say top 5 is a possiblity, though..
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Post by John77 on Feb 27, 2006 12:47:57 GMT -5
I could care less where this song peaks, but it's sad that a couple of people (not you) have to flame me on this thread just because I disagree with them and am "sticking to my guns". John77, I'm not picking on you or bashing you - just enlightening you. You're stated chart methodology is deeply flawed because its doesn't take into account extemporaneous factors. The only reason WA isn't top 5 now is because WHTZ (Z100) in New York, the BIGGEST Pop station in america, is playing GONE as the next single instead of WA. Heres todays chart from Z100: 1 1 MARY J. BLIGE Be Without You 101 96 5 10.3321 2 2 CASCADA Everytime We Touch 98 94 4 9.705 4 3 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 81 60 21 8.5277 3 4 NE-YO So Sick 62 76 -14 5.8615 36 5 SEAN PAUL Temperature 62 14 48 6.1296 10 6 RIHANNA SOS 55 49 6 5.3107 9 7 YING YANG TWINS Shake f/Pitbull 55 50 5 4.9026 8 8 JAMES BLUNT You're Beautiful 53 51 2 5.4063 14 9 NICK LACHEY What's Left Of Me 51 41 10 4.9045 11 10 BEYONCE Check On It f/Slim Thug 50 48 2 4.4334 13 11 KELLY CLARKSON Gone 50 46 4 4.8674 5 12 PUSSYCAT DOLLS Stickwitu 46 60 -14 4.6466 15 13 SHAKIRA La Tortura (f/ Alejandro Sanz 46 37 9 4.3282 20 14 FALL OUT BOY Dance, Dance 44 33 11 4.3118 6 15 BLACK EYED PEAS Pump It 43 57 -14 4.0843 7 16 RIHANNA If It's Lovin' That You Want 40 52 -12 3.8942 19 17 RAY J One Wish 37 34 3 3.3433 17 18 STAIND Right Here 35 35 0 3.4734 12 19 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS Dirty Little Secret 34 46 -12 3.6331 21 20 SEAN PAUL We Be Burning (Legalize It) 34 33 1 3.1483 16 21 GWEN STEFANI Crash 34 37 -3 3.1742 22 22 SAVING JANE Girl Next Door 33 31 2 3.1854 23 23 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall, Ali&Gipp) 32 29 3 2.4742 24 24 PINK Stupid Girls 32 28 4 2.9853 25 25 MADHOUSE Like A Prayer 31 27 4 2.9332 42 26 CHRIS BROWN Yo (Excuse Me Miss) 28 9 19 2.5563 30 27 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 27 22 5 2.692 27 28 TEDDY GEIGER For You I Will 26 25 1 2.4641 39 29 GWEN STEFANI Luxurious 26 13 13 2.3395 18 30 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 25 34 -9 2.4997 Clarkson has 3 songs on this chart in the top 30 with total audience impressions of over 10 million - more than anyone except the #1 song by Mary J Blige. This same scenario exists at MANY of the top Pop stations. Clarksons singles have had amazing, UNBELIEVABLE longevity and NO artist in my recent memory, certainly not in this century, has matched her in that distinction. The charts aren't a black and white, numbers only, inanimate object - they live and breathe and get caught up in their own mania and mistakes and it takes a while to work out the kinks. WA will reach the top 5 easily - all you have to do is listen to the song and compare it to its competition in the top 10 to figure that out - forget the actual numbers on the chart. This is Clarksons 75th consecutive week with a song in the top 10 of the Pop charts and WA is going to extend that streak for another 10 weeks with a probable peak in the top 3 - an amazing feat for a 5th single still competing with all of its extremely popular siblings and even a 6th single taking some of its spins and about 5 million of its audience impressions. Natasha is doing great with UNWRITTEN - I love the song - how do you think her 5th single from her album will be doing 14 or 15 months from now? Will it be at #8 with a bullet of +473 headed for a top 3 peak like Clarksons 5th single WA after 21 months and 4 #1s worth of singles releases from one album? You're analysis lacks the depth of historic perspective, impact, experience, and the insight of the LIFE and momentum of the fluid chart conditions. And I'm enlightening you too... funny how I've been posting the same way about Gwen's "Crash" and not getting any of this negative feedback... I'm simply being realistic... if you don't like it that's fine... We are all entitled to our opinions and I'm not changing mine anytime soon. I'm also very well aware of what Z100 is doing, and frankly I agree with them... IMHO, "Gone" is a much better song and should have been the single choice... I was VERY disappointed that they chose WA.... I'm very well aware of what "Breakaway" has done in a singles perspective (though that part of your post belongs on the album thread)... I think it's great what Kelly's been able to do with the album...
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