American Top 40: The Unpublished Years 2000-2001

[somelikeitwhen]

For just about a year, AT40 chose to use a different chart than Radio and Records. back then I didn't know anything about the charts, so I didn't care, but I think there was quite a reaction to it on the R&R boards. Does anybody have any copies of the charts used in these shows? I only have the R&R charts, and I would like the unpublished ones because that time period is where my memories of this show really lie. (I'm only 15.)

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

I do but they're all on paper. I think the online files I have are strictly of R&R's charts but I could double check. I remember this period in AT40 history had some odd chart droppers and stuff. It was never figured out.
Personally, I was slightly in favour of this chart because then I could no longer cheat by looking ahead at R&R to see what the show would look like when it aired. On the other hand though, when referring back to past charts, I always used AT40 stats but when AT40 and R&R have different information, there's a conflict there on which one I'd use.
I think if I were still following AT40, I'd probably continue using all AT40 stats but I've since moved on and now just refer to my own personal charts for the most part, lol.

[Hervard]

Actually, I believe it was just 2000 that had their own year-end chart, since they went back to using the R&R chart in August, 2001 and used that year-end chart, regardless of the fact that they used their own chart for most of that year.

I never got to hear the 2000 year-ender, since no station in my listening area carried AT40, but I did hear that several songs to make the R&R chart were absent from the chart, most notably "He Wasn't Man Enough" by Toni Braxton, which I believe was somewhere in the 20s or 30s on the R&R chart. That made it clear that whoever was in charge of proofreading the chart did a very careless job.

[somelikeitwhen]

I really only want the weekly charts. I can get the yearends from another source.

[johnnywest]

"Only Time" made quite a plunge during that time. It went from something like #10 to off the chart.

[somelikeitwhen]

It reentered though, for some odd reason. The first show I listened to in 2001, which was October, had this on the chart.

[Hervard]

^ Wow, I never knew that "Only Time" dropped from the chart from so high up. Are you sure that was during the time that AT40 was using that oddball chart? I could have sworn that song wasn't on the chart (at least not so high up) before August, when they switched back to using R&R.

I do know that "Doesn't Really Matter" by Janet fell clean off the chart from #10, and some song by 'N Sync fell off from just outside the Top Ten.

Anyway, the only charts I have are the AT20 AC charts from that era, since I took notes on the entire chart instead of just the "extra" songs, until they reverted back to R&R.

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

I actually have a quick list on my old AT40 website (that I haven't updated in five years but it is still there) regarding songs that fell off from high. Here's the list and the position they were last on the chart.

Position Title - Artist Weaks in Top 40
10 Doesn't Really Matter - Janet 16
11 Don't Tell Me - Madonna 17
11 Nobody Wants To Be Lonely - Ricky Martin &
Christina Aguilera 9
12 Dance With Me - Debelah Morgan 24
12 Come On Over, Baby - Christina Aguilera 18
12 If You're Gone - Matchbox Twenty 26
13 He Wasn't Man Enough - Toni Braxton 21
13 Country Grammar - Nelly 14
13 Shape Of My Heart - Backstreet Boys 13
13 Most Girls - Pink 23
13 Independant Women - Destiny's Child 22
13 He Loves U Not - Dream 27
13 Never Had A Dream Come True - S Club 7 14
13 Angel - Shaggy featuring Rayvon 23

Here is that site. www.geocities.com/americantopforty/
I think I should bring this site back up again maybe but focus only on R&R's chart from post-PPW (mid 1994-present) because I think it's interesting and fun. The only thing stopping me now though is that all of my information isn't in one place. I don't have a single Excel file that contains all of R&R's charts. My excel file ends at 2002, I believe, and I think it is only R&R charts so it didn't convert with AT40 when they did... but I'm not positive about that.
Either way, we should have a topic here at least, that can extend/update on the records I have listed in there, and more! It would be neat!

[BillboardBoy]

"Only Time" dropped off the chart on Dec. 8-9, 2001 from #13.

[somelikeitwhen]

I take it it went recurrent on a skipped chart week because of the yearend?

[somelikeitwhen]

Just to remind everyone, if anybody has any complete records of the unpublished AT40 charts, I would please like a copy. PM me for more details.

[Hervard]

somelikeitwhen said:

I take it it went recurrent on a skipped chart week because of the yearend?

It wasn't a skipped chart. It had just been on the CHR/Pop chart for 20 or more weeks and took an unusually large drop out of the Top 20. I guess its popularity brought on by the September 11 attacks had worn off by then.

[somelikeitwhen]

I've got the 2001 charts, even though a few songs are missing. If anybody send me the 200 charts, I would prefer if they were in a chart listing format and not a spreadsheet.

[dth1971]

Wasn't there one more AT40 Mediabase used chart in the last weekend of September 2001 since R&R chart suspended all its charts for a week following the September 11, 2001 tragic events?

[BillboardBoy]

dth1971 said:

Wasn't there one more AT40 Mediabase used chart in the last weekend of September 2001 since the R&R chart suspended charts for a week following the September 11, 2001 tragic events?

That is correct. I do remember not getting a copy of R&R that week.

[somelikeitwhen]

The only information on the 2000 charts I have is from this link:
www.angelfire.com/fl3/musicdays/at40songs2001.html
(There are a few 2000 holdovers from November and December.)
If anyone has any of the charts specifically from late 2000 (and 2001 if you can; the spreadsheet I was sent was corrupted by my e-mail scanner) I would greatly appreciate it.

[somelikeitwhen]

From scouring the old R&R forums on the Wayback Machine, I managed to obtain a few more charts. The only ones I need now are:
11/5
11/12
11/19
11/26
12/3
12/10
12/17
I think that's all the rest of the 2000 charts. I might also need the first 2001 chart as well. And just to clarify, these are AT40 charts and not R&R. Thanks in advance to anyone who isn;t sick of me yet and tries to help me out here.

[cartman2002]

May 11, 2008 11:19:51 GMT -5 somelikeitwhen said:

From scouring the old R&R forums on the Wayback Machine, I managed to obtain a few more charts. The only ones I need now are:
11/5
11/12
11/19
11/26
12/3
12/10
12/17
I think that's all the rest of the 2000 charts. I might also need the first 2001 chart as well. And just to clarify, these are AT40 charts and not R&R. Thanks in advance to anyone who isn;t sick of me yet and tries to help me out here.

What is the web address for the R&R forums on the Wayback Machine

[somelikeitwhen]

www.rronline.com. Then click on Message Boards. Be careful though, only a handful of the links work.

[cartman2002]

I couldn't find Message Boards on the Wayback Machine website

[somelikeitwhen]

www.bibalex.org/isis/frontend/archive/archive_web.aspx
Use this instead.

[somelikeitwhen]

Bump just in case anyone has the charts.

[johnnywest]

I wish AT40 now would use charts that have radical recurrent rules.

[johnnywest]

Jun 13, 2007 13:43:16 GMT -5 Devil Marlena Nylund said:

Here is that site. www.geocities.com/americantopforty/

I've been Rick-rolled!

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

Aww... my old AT40 website. I kinda miss it. But yeah, geocities closed down shop years ago.