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Post by Focus on May 4, 2007 6:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by samsa on May 4, 2007 7:01:21 GMT -5
someone needs to tell Z100 this is "flopping" because they have bumped up spins over the last 2 days
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Post by colson on May 4, 2007 7:04:34 GMT -5
Why are ppl hoping this song flops? Geez.
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Post by Felicia on May 4, 2007 7:21:05 GMT -5
Why are y'all Kelly fans so defensive? What you guys are doing will only make the others want to put down the song even more.
I like the song now but this isn't No. 1 material. Most neutrals will probably not like it as it doesn't have the catchy hook.
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Post by pce2b on May 4, 2007 7:57:28 GMT -5
The thing that I dont get are haters coming in and acting like this song doing badly would be the start of some flop and ruin Kelly's career. Exactly what female artist has come out with a smash CD (relatively speaking) since 2006??? Look at Beyonce(Deja Vu, Ring the Alarm), Pink(Stupid Girls, Who Knew), Christina had one,/maybe two singles that did well along w/not that overwhelming album sales, Avril's Under My Skin didnt do nearly as well as Let Go...I could go on and on...I am not dissing any of the above list. I am just saying that EVEN if this song ends up doing poorly and EVEN if her album sales aren't up to Breakaway - there are no females with albums out in the last couple of years(other than Carrie) with prestine track records. So why cant we just wait a year or so and then start judging!
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Post by skaterboyccs on May 4, 2007 8:53:27 GMT -5
Why are y'all Kelly fans so defensive? What you guys are doing will only make the others want to put down the song even more. I like the song now but this isn't No. 1 material. Most neutrals will probably not like it as it doesn't have the catchy hook. You're totally right!!! I love Kelly and loved even more Breakaway... but Never Again isn't a good song by her standarts.. And about Kelly fans... you're really annoying :S I don't like to post or read this thread often because there are mad, blind and close minded people posting here ... moderators should be here frecuently..
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Post by Repent Yourself Away on May 4, 2007 9:13:43 GMT -5
^To an extent you are right; but don't generalize. I'm a huge Kelly Fan and if someone wants this to flop w/e that's their problem. You can't see that there aren't idiots on both sides of the debate in this thread though. It's kind of pathetic how people keep going back and forth non stop.
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Post by skaterboyccs on May 4, 2007 9:19:04 GMT -5
I think that this isn't deserves become a hit... She needs release a really good song... she isn't a rock artist...
She is a pop singer and that's her main format and her song must be good and had a good hook... That's pop music
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 4, 2007 9:20:12 GMT -5
This song is clearly under performing at this point in time. Things could change though...(no matter how unlikely).
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 4, 2007 10:28:17 GMT -5
Why are y'all Kelly fans so defensive? What you guys are doing will only make the others want to put down the song even more. I like the song now but this isn't No. 1 material. Most neutrals will probably not like it as it doesn't have the catchy hook. VVV - KELLY CLARKSON Never Again 3397 2935 462 18.501 Great great flop, this feels good, hopefully will miss top 20 altogether!! someone needs to tell Z100 this is "flopping" because they have bumped up spins over the last 2 days Anymore questions? And the recent 'defensiveness' I see is just eye rolling without much words after that. Sure we can just ignore them till Thread part 4 when this song will be top 20 by then, probably very close to top 10 when they will become 'suddenly silent' (funny how that happens huh?) but some people ; it gets to em.
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Post by Felicia on May 4, 2007 10:36:32 GMT -5
Yep one final question. Do getting more defensive against them gain anything for you fans? Like I say it's only going to give them another reason to hate on. Ignore them and they'll go away quietly when no one pays attention.
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 4, 2007 10:47:36 GMT -5
Yep one final question. Do getting more defensive against them gain anything for you fans? Like I say it's only going to give them another reason to hate on. Ignore them and they'll go away quietly when no one pays attention. Its hard to answer your question because I am simply defending the defenders if you will lol. (I've posted twice, maybe three times in this thread) For the most part I do ignore and have ignored them, I don't try to convince them otherwise, just general explinations of why x happens then I leave. If they have a problem with that I don't say anything more - No fan wars, no arguing to try to convince them otherwise. As for your general assessment, you are correct.
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Post by nucker on May 4, 2007 11:03:37 GMT -5
Just ignore the trolls. They are starved for attention so don't give it to them.
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Post by Focus on May 4, 2007 11:14:27 GMT -5
Courtesy the KCExpresss:
This is from the "Ask the GM" section on the RCA site. (Questions are answered by Richard Sanders)
Question: Why aren't you promoting Kelly Clarkson's new single?
Answer: We are. You will see her new video shortly, as well as many TV performances.
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Post by mugshot on May 4, 2007 11:18:44 GMT -5
RCA is OBVIOUSLY promoting it. They had behind the scenes segments on 'Access Hollywood' for the video and Kelly's been doing a bunch of radio interviews etc...
They can't really do more then that right now.
IF this song flops, I know the official line from fans will be that RCA didn't promote it, but that's just not true at all.
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Post by Focus on May 4, 2007 11:22:43 GMT -5
PLUS, what are they doing promoting a scrapped album. So much for that bullsh*t rumor.
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Post by mugshot on May 4, 2007 11:26:43 GMT -5
^Very true!
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Post by circlecircledotdot on May 4, 2007 11:53:13 GMT -5
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 4, 2007 12:21:02 GMT -5
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Post by Felicia on May 4, 2007 12:30:20 GMT -5
I won't be surprise if it's true.
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Post by esoteric76 on May 4, 2007 12:33:49 GMT -5
This song is done. +490, and while I understand how most will say, "Wlwlwlwlwwlllll it's at +490 and #4 on iTunes"...come on, by her standards, unless a "Lonely No More" is pulled, which it won't, this song is done, and will peak at about #17 in two weeks. What a great disappointment. This song really bit it hard. I'm really intrigued to see what's coming out next. OH NO! It better not peak at #17!! Does everyone remember around the beginning of the year when I posted the similarities between P!nk & Kelly's success?? How their carreers have somewhat been the same?? Well, just an FYI, Trouble (the first single from P!nk's 3rd album), had a more hard rock sound too and that peaked at #17 really early and then dropped off the charts! Soo, I hope this doesn't do that cause I was scared it might! I wasn't a huge fan of P!nk's "Trouble" but at LEAST that song had a hook. I can actually still remember that song's chorus (and I haven't heard it in a long time) and "Never Again" leaves my brain immediately after hearing it. Kelly is allowed to have a single that falters, but I really hope the next song has got that spark!
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Post by samsa on May 4, 2007 13:13:41 GMT -5
so that contactmusic story and all earlier incarnations of that story all come from the same source, right? basically Luke told that story to one person (or several people) privately, and those people chose to share it publicly, and it grew and grew and grew? And now radio stations and news outlets all over the country are reporting it as fact. as far as I am concerned, every bonehead that repeated and spread that story is guilty. now Kelly and her management and RCA look like a bunch of amateurs, imo
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 4, 2007 14:22:15 GMT -5
Oooh Kelly Clarkson your so cute with your little risky-to-radio song, look at what a simple release like this has caused people to jump too. Un-fricken-believable lol. I wonder if she knew all of this would come just by releasing a single, I think if she knew all this stuff she would laugh.
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Post by dperkins on May 4, 2007 14:24:47 GMT -5
I am not sure if this has already been posted...Soo, dont shoot the messenger, but I heard that if Never Again flopped the label was gonna force Kelly to go back into the studio and record some more songs for the album. And apparently they are already forcing her to do so now. Like I said, don't get mad at me. Its just what I heard! But the person who claimed so isn't very reliable. *cough*Britnasty*cough. ;)
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 4, 2007 14:26:59 GMT -5
I am not sure if this has already been posted...Soo, dont shoot the messenger, but I heard that if Never Again flopped the label was gonna force Kelly to go back into the studio and record some more songs for the album. And apparently they are already forcing her to do so now. Like I said, don't get mad at me. Its just what I heard! But the person who claimed so isn't very reliable. *cough*Britnasty*cough. ;) *gets mad* !!! Nah bro, that's pretty old news that was first made by Dr. Luke back about 2-3 weeks ago, its all good. Its still up in the air if that rumor was ever true or not (course, *I* could be behind on that) So when is Britnasty making his trumphed return instead of tell people old news behind the scenes?
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Post by dperkins on May 4, 2007 14:29:28 GMT -5
Okay! lol I wasn't sure. This thread goes insane from time to time! Then I got banned for a week! Sooooo yeah. I wasn't sure. I just figured I would post that though. I guess that is why there hasn't been a scheduled date for the album yet.
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Post by Focus on May 4, 2007 14:30:51 GMT -5
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 4, 2007 14:31:44 GMT -5
Okay! lol I wasn't sure. This thread goes insane from time to time! Then I got banned for a week! Sooooo yeah. I wasn't sure. I just figured I would post that though. I guess that is why there hasn't been a scheduled date for the album yet. Yah its cool, you made such a SMASHING return hehe, however as a Kelbot this is unacceptable and I'm gonna have to ask you for your paycheck as punishment! (Common, I'm too lazy to go get mine right now, it sucks anyway )
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Post by dperkins on May 4, 2007 14:32:34 GMT -5
okay! cool. i can't wait for the album. Even if it flops as long as its what she wanted to do and the album is hot, i don't care!!
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 4, 2007 14:37:31 GMT -5
*High fives Focus* So anyway, lets continue our talk about Kelly's mermaid outfit....very hot, what? Oh..right Never Again - bullet will go back up this weekend since she did about a 200 daily increase compared to LW, it will further increase as LLW will be cut off after Sunday evenings official update. It wont be anything earth shattering though, maybe push it near 600.
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