Bluesy
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Post by Bluesy on May 5, 2007 13:49:12 GMT -5
I hate this song. Why does she think she is pop rock now? It's like she's playing dress up. The doctors already told her that her voice is shot. If she keeps screaming she is going to lose her voice for good. And that vid is meh. Nuts to everything you said.
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Post by Focus on May 5, 2007 14:09:28 GMT -5
I hate this song. Why does she think she is pop rock now? It's like she's playing dress up. The doctors already told her that her voice is shot. If she keeps screaming she is going to lose her voice for good. And that vid is meh. Did they?? I missed that. Where did you hear that?
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Post by muscleclub on May 5, 2007 14:20:50 GMT -5
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Post by willis on May 5, 2007 15:25:43 GMT -5
I hate this song. Why does she think she is pop rock now? It's like she's playing dress up. The doctors already told her that her voice is shot. If she keeps screaming she is going to lose her voice for good. And that vid is meh. If Kelly would know she was going to lose her voice, she would not have made this album.
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Post by Lillybean on May 5, 2007 16:40:53 GMT -5
Hopefully the video will help this. I don't love this like I did some of the Breakaway singles but I think this deserves top 10. I agree that her image has been perfectly preserved - she's a great top 40 singer who is a little bad@$$ with her recent single selection but remains sophistocated instead of annoyin ala Avirl. Let's not forget that Avril wrote "Breakaway" one of Kelly's biggest hits, if not her biggest. So Avril helped make Kelly. Kellbotz should should be more thankful.
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Post by unicorns on May 5, 2007 16:50:26 GMT -5
album tracklist : Never Again One Minute Sober Maybe Yeah Be Still Hole Judas Chivas How I Feel Irvine Haunted Can I Have A Kiss? OMGZ those titles suck. Regardless, I love this song. I was SO sick of Kelly last year during the Breakaway era, but I love this song sooo much! And it really pisses me off that this is going to flop, it deserves to be a hit, moreso than "Crap Away" in my book.
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Post by ruby1 on May 5, 2007 16:55:28 GMT -5
album tracklist : Never Again One Minute Sober Maybe Yeah Be Still Hole <--- Judas <--- Chivas <--- How I Feel Irvine Haunted Can I Have A Kiss? wtf Your kidding right?
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 5, 2007 17:26:21 GMT -5
album tracklist : Never Again One Minute Sober Maybe Yeah Be Still Hole <--- Judas <--- Chivas <--- How I Feel Irvine Haunted Can I Have A Kiss? wtf Your kidding right? LOL, no but Judas is suppose to be REALLY emotional, rumor is that its about a real life friend of her's that committed suicide in high school. I might be getting that confused with Haunted though... Chivas ..rofl no clue, she is allowed to have some fun songs amongst all those deep personal emotional tracks lol! So maybe that's one I know for a fact that "Yeah" is, everyones happy that actually made the album. Hole sounds very Kelly though - maybe a darker version of Where Is Your Heart or something totally different pretaining to herself. Girls had a very emotional life already.. I hate this song. Why does she think she is pop rock now? It's like she's playing dress up. The doctors already told her that her voice is shot. If she keeps screaming she is going to lose her voice for good. And that vid is meh. Troll of the week award goes to...
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Post by Lillybean on May 5, 2007 17:38:15 GMT -5
I really hope those titles are a joke.
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 5, 2007 17:42:35 GMT -5
I really hope those titles are a joke. Most are confirmed, those who went to the Addicted Tour heard "Yeah" and depending on location "Anymore" and "Maybe". And from what I can tell you if you think "Never Again" isn't radio friendly its wimpy compared to how rough "Anymore" and "Maybe" sounds, I'm gonna be pissed of if those don't go to rock stations. I'm glad Anymore wasn't the first single but VERY glad it made the album. "Anymore" is vocal suicide to the average singer, I wouldn't expect alot of preformances of that song..infact we didn't get to hear it since we were at the end of the tour and it still needed alot of work (not to mention vocals weren't as ready for that song compared to beginning of the tour). Of the 'sampled' songs song throughout the tour, Anymore definately won it for me, second to Maybe. Maybe would make a GREAT rock ballad.
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Post by SILENCE on May 5, 2007 19:57:57 GMT -5
last time I heard SUBG was Kelly's biggest hit, which is why so many have tried to duplicate it's sound, including Avril herself *shrug*
as for this song flopping well her current stats would indicate that this song has stabilized after receiving giant initial spins due to industry excitement over new Kelly material.
latest update on CHR/POP mediabase chart as of 2:30 pm update
23 22 KELLY CLARKSON Never Again 3453 2971 482 18.816
that's up from yesterday's update so perhaps this song is on the rise again....
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on May 5, 2007 20:04:17 GMT -5
Yes, I would've thought this would be top 10 now.
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Post by Lillybean on May 5, 2007 20:13:20 GMT -5
last time I heard SUBG was Kelly's biggest hit, which is why so many have tried to duplicate it's sound, including Avril herself *shrug* as for this song flopping well her current stats would indicate that this song has stabilized after receiving giant initial spins due to industry excitement over new Kelly material. latest update on CHR/POP mediabase chart as of 2:30 pm update 23 22 KELLY CLARKSON Never Again 3453 2971 482 18.816 that's up from yesterday's update so perhaps this song is on the rise again.... First of all I wrote "one of Kelly's biggest hits" Second of all if indeed Since U Been Gone is her biggest hit, Kelly sure as hell didn't write it. Either way Avril has had more hits as a writer than Kelly. Kelly's new single is NOT doing well as a first single. Anybody who thinks that this song is going as planed is deluding themselves. Let's call a spade a spade. All these rumors would not be going around if the song was performing as intended. Otherwise nobody would pay attention to them. The only reason they are going around is because the song is not doing well. It MAY turn around but it is not doing well NOW. Get real!
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Focus
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Post by Focus on May 5, 2007 20:28:52 GMT -5
Rumor's started by Av's boy Luke. Also, how many songs go Top 10 Pop Airplay in 2 weeks? I don't know many, do you?
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Post by Lillybean on May 5, 2007 20:45:14 GMT -5
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Post by justfloating on May 5, 2007 21:01:02 GMT -5
Next weeks her bullet will be in the 600's mark my words.
Lilybean, you are way off base just to let you, and this is coming from a neutral. It has nothing to do with who writes the songs because she co-writes a lot of songs which leaves a lot of room for disgression. Who writes her songs is irrelevant frankly because it has nothing to do with her success. Avril certainly did not write all of her lyrics and there is a certain "hit" from her that she did not write.
This song is doing as well as any first single from an artist who got burned out last era which Kelly did. People freaked out when it first came out and it is now becoming a "single" if you will. That initial shock is gone and people will begin to appreciate it.
I swear, some people just don't understand the way things work and only see the present and appearances.
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Focus
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Post by Focus on May 5, 2007 21:08:26 GMT -5
Stupes?? The song went for adds two weeks ago.www.radioandrecords.com/formats/charts/pop_chart.aspCheck out "weeks on" Now who's the stupes? ;) As to the rumor. Read the thread you posted. The people that were REALLY there said the rumor the orginal poster posted was UNTRUE.
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Post by top40dj on May 5, 2007 21:34:39 GMT -5
I heard now the album is scrapped and she has to go back because the record company didn't think it was marketable...
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Post by Lillybean on May 5, 2007 21:45:48 GMT -5
Focus Check when it was first played dum**ss Add date means little if it was already added to most stations and played before the "add date" sucoF ???
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Focus
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Post by Focus on May 5, 2007 21:48:53 GMT -5
I heard now the album is scrapped and she has to go back because the record company didn't think it was marketable... Do people just not read before they post completely bogus crap? This has been posted in this thread already, but here it is again. :) eta: sorry to get testy. www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgiThey even give an album date, finally, July 24th.
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Post by justfloating on May 5, 2007 21:52:58 GMT -5
When a song is first played is not an adds date and therefore completely untrue. if she was added to most stations, she would be top 5. she was played at some major stations and some smaller stations. get your facts straight. you're so full of it. i dont even know why you care. if you dont like the song, fine but dont try to argue with your unprovable statemements like your new concept of an unofficial adds date being when a song is first played.
learn what you're talking about and i wouldnt call anyone a dumb**ss because thats what you look like right now. signing off, call me debbie. fulb
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Post by Lillybean on May 5, 2007 21:58:54 GMT -5
Debbie, I see you like Pink. I don't love that song either but it is #1. Something this song will NEVER be. Ever. Ever. Also, in "dunb**ss" what do the two ** stand for? Do you know how to spell?
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Post by Jon on May 5, 2007 22:00:46 GMT -5
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Post by beextina on May 5, 2007 22:01:13 GMT -5
flop comeback!
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Post by dperkins on May 5, 2007 22:02:56 GMT -5
Debbie, I see you like Pink. I don't love that song either but it is #1. Something this song will NEVER be. Ever. Ever. Also, in "dunb**ss" what do the two ** stand for? Do you know how to spell? Apparently you dont since you spelled it with an "n" when she used an "m"! lol
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Post by mamasboy on May 5, 2007 22:09:54 GMT -5
Debbie, I see you like Pink. I don't love that song either but it is #1. Something this song will NEVER be. Ever. Ever. Also, in "dunb**ss" what do the two ** stand for? Do you know how to spell? Sounds like we have another Einstein on our hands folks! BWAH!
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Post by kwab on May 5, 2007 22:09:58 GMT -5
last time I heard SUBG was Kelly's biggest hit, which is why so many have tried to duplicate it's sound, including Avril herself *shrug* as for this song flopping well her current stats would indicate that this song has stabilized after receiving giant initial spins due to industry excitement over new Kelly material. latest update on CHR/POP mediabase chart as of 2:30 pm update 23 22 KELLY CLARKSON Never Again 3453 2971 482 18.816 that's up from yesterday's update so perhaps this song is on the rise again.... First of all I wrote "one of Kelly's biggest hits" Second of all if indeed Since U Been Gone is her biggest hit, Kelly sure as hell didn't write it. Either way Avril has had more hits as a writer than Kelly. Kelly's new single is NOT doing well as a first single. Anybody who thinks that this song is going as planed is deluding themselves. Let's call a spade a spade. All these rumors would not be going around if the song was performing as intended. Otherwise nobody would pay attention to them. The only reason they are going around is because the song is not doing well. It MAY turn around but it is not doing well NOW. Get real! Well let's see here... Breakaway1st wk - 88 2nd wk - 79 3rd wk - 73 4th wk - 45 5th wk - 39 6th wk - 33 7th wk - 28 8th wk - 25 9th wk - 22 10th wk - 21 11th wk - 18 12th wk - 13 13th wk - 8 14th wk - 7 15th wk - 5 16th wk - 2 Since U Been Gone1st wk - 119 2nd wk - 57 3rd wk - 40 4th wk - 33 5th wk - 22 6th wk - 19 7th wk - 17 8th wk - 14 9th wk - 14 10th wk - 11 11th wk - 6 12th wk - 7 13th wk - 3 14th wk - 3 15th wk - 4 16th wk - 2 17th wk - 2 18th wk - 2 19th wk - 2 20th wk - 1 Never Again1st wk - 42 2nd wk - 24 3rd wk - 22 Well, it looks like it's racing up the airplay charts much faster. It also is the highest debuting Hot 100 song for Kelly so far as well at #8. Yeah, it's definitely not going as planned. and just for fun... Behind These Hazel Eyes - 97 79 72 59 47 41 28 20 18 13 6 3 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 Because Of You - 146 113 112 93 73 59 47 35 24 18 16 11 5 2 2 1 2 1 Walk Away - 122 111 101 85 63 48 41 38 31 24 18 16 10 10 9 8 6
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Post by Lillybean on May 5, 2007 22:15:47 GMT -5
Oh ok, so Carrie Underwood and Avril Lavigne both beat Kelly Clarkson. That must be tough defeat for you Kellbotz! I guess more people like Carrie and Avril then. And for Carrie it wasn't her first single either.
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Post by rpclarksonswimmer1 on May 5, 2007 22:21:44 GMT -5
Album out July 24th.
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Post by rpclarksonswimmer1 on May 5, 2007 22:23:26 GMT -5
And the tracklist posted earlier is fake.....those are just the confirmed titles on the album. HAUNTED is the song about her friend's suicide...not Judas.
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