doodlebug
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Post by doodlebug on May 15, 2007 21:16:31 GMT -5
Negative articles are fine, but trying to create controversy where there isn't one is b.s. I don't think I totally understand this post. The negative articles are what is causing the controversy. The fact that they are appearing and people are giving their impressions, their previous thoughts or knowledge, their predictions for the future are what is being given here. I don't get that you think that someone is trying to create controversy. That is what is going on apparently between Kelly and RCA, or at least Clive. Trying to tell people not to have opinions or discuss is not really fair, and it shouldn't be labeled as "trying to start a controversy" just because they may look at what's going on differently than other fans or nonfans do. This may be normal in the record industry, behind the scenes of putting out a record, but it certainly is rare that it becomes as public as this has and that an artist goes on record as much as Kelly is, saying she is right and they are wrong, and treating it as though she is being persecuted or something. Most artists keep their dirty laundry and disagreements with labels behind the scenes. Someone is this case decided not to do that. It's out there and people are seeing and hearing it. Kelly is not going to be perceived by everyone as being right /wrong and neither is RCA.
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pyrates
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Post by pyrates on May 15, 2007 21:30:10 GMT -5
^^ Uh, I'm talking about the AI v. Kelly ones.
Kelly has created a musical identity for herself outside of Idol. But that isn't the same thing as dumping Idol and bashing it. She, herself, has never said that Idol was a bad thing for her. In fact, in regards to her own career, she only talks about Idol positively (other than J2K :) ). Wanting to be her own person and not just a puppet of Idol is, IMO, perfectly fine.
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Post by pollyannacat on May 15, 2007 21:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by dperkins on May 15, 2007 21:57:26 GMT -5
:O OMG! That album cover is sick! WOW! Hotness!
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Post by pollyannacat on May 15, 2007 22:02:30 GMT -5
I Love It!!!
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Post by blurple on May 15, 2007 22:17:11 GMT -5
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polly
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Post by polly on May 15, 2007 22:17:39 GMT -5
Perfection. Beautiful!
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JayBoozer
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Post by JayBoozer on May 15, 2007 22:18:43 GMT -5
Picture was removed
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Post by polly on May 15, 2007 22:19:47 GMT -5
Look on the later pages. There are other links. Page 11 I think has one.
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JayBoozer
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Post by JayBoozer on May 15, 2007 22:21:32 GMT -5
Ooh great album picture, second best to McPhee's for AI album covers.
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Post by desertflower on May 15, 2007 22:48:17 GMT -5
It doesn't even look like Kelly.
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Focus
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Post by Focus on May 15, 2007 23:05:08 GMT -5
I can see her in there, just barely.
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Post by JORDAN on May 15, 2007 23:39:04 GMT -5
Its so dark and sexy. i love it. its Nothing like the Breakaway and Thankful covers, and nothing like i would expect . :)
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OUcultjam
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Post by OUcultjam on May 15, 2007 23:39:05 GMT -5
^ that's the color saturated version. The real one is slightly more muted... Personally, I LOVE the romantic picture. It surprised me at first, but I'm really loving it now.
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MOWE
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Post by MOWE on May 15, 2007 23:53:48 GMT -5
I gotta agree with 'focus,' none of these quotes come from Kelly herself. These quotes were clearly exaggerated. One of them states that Kelly "won't be making any more Idol appearances." But wait, didn't she JUST appear on Idol Gives Back? Look, I'm not saying that Kelly never said some things regarding AI and not wanting to be known as just another contestant. I do believe that Kelly wanted to distance herself from the show SOMEWHAT. She wants to be known as an artist, not just as a reality show contestant. However, that doesn't mean she wants people to completely forget about where she came from. (If that was her goal, she never would have gone on AI ever again.) These quotes are 1.) taken out of context and 2.) not even from Kelly herself. So, I still don't think there's any proof that Kelly is 'ungrateful,' which was the original poster's point that you argued against.
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MOWE
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Post by MOWE on May 16, 2007 0:02:09 GMT -5
Negative articles are fine, but trying to create controversy where there isn't one is b.s. I don't think I totally understand this post. The negative articles are what is causing the controversy. The fact that they are appearing and people are giving their impressions, their previous thoughts or knowledge, their predictions for the future are what is being given here. I don't get that you think that someone is trying to create controversy. That is what is going on apparently between Kelly and RCA, or at least Clive. Trying to tell people not to have opinions or discuss is not really fair, and it shouldn't be labeled as "trying to start a controversy" just because they may look at what's going on differently than other fans or nonfans do. This may be normal in the record industry, behind the scenes of putting out a record, but it certainly is rare that it becomes as public as this has and that an artist goes on record as much as Kelly is, saying she is right and they are wrong, and treating it as though she is being persecuted or something. Most artists keep their dirty laundry and disagreements with labels behind the scenes. Someone is this case decided not to do that. It's out there and people are seeing and hearing it. Kelly is not going to be perceived by everyone as being right /wrong and neither is RCA. Doodlebug, I think I might be able to clear up some of the confusion here. It seems to me that it's not the appearance of the negative articles that has gotten people mad. Most of us here understand that not every post has to be 'go kelly!' and all. What got a lot of people angry was that the poster used (misused?) those articles to claim that Kelly was ungrateful to AI. I think a bunch of people have pointed out that those quotes were not really saying what the poster claimed they said.
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Post by Positive Tension on May 16, 2007 0:13:17 GMT -5
Awesome album cover. It seems like it'll be a great representation of what the album will be like.
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Post by thedoctorluke on May 16, 2007 5:25:38 GMT -5
21 KELLY CLARKSON Never Again +22
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Post by justfloating on May 16, 2007 5:51:15 GMT -5
one of the best album covers in a long time...definately the best of 2007
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Post by beaston on May 16, 2007 6:01:06 GMT -5
22 21 KELLY CLARKSON Never Again 3483 3497 -14 19.941
OUCH!
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Post by winner2000 on May 16, 2007 6:54:46 GMT -5
Wow...so this song is done? Yikes.
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Post by oscillations. on May 16, 2007 7:05:09 GMT -5
Two options: 1. Payola 2. New single
at this point, I'd recommend a new single
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Felicia
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Post by Felicia on May 16, 2007 7:08:13 GMT -5
The banner on the album cover is hideous. It doesn't fit in at all. Other than that it's a really good cover.
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Post by eljefro on May 16, 2007 7:14:16 GMT -5
I say New Single...but not for at least 3-4 weeks...she can perform it during album promo in June...
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Post by reckster on May 16, 2007 7:17:53 GMT -5
She needs to quick release "One Minute" or "All I Know".
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Post by vevey on May 16, 2007 7:34:49 GMT -5
Yay! One fewer dumb song on the radio. It's not even nearly catchy enough to compensate for its dumb and incoherent lyrics. Even this much airplay is far too much already when some of the most exquisite and intelligent music such as Dixie Chicks' latest can't get any. So yay!
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 16, 2007 8:07:36 GMT -5
Two options: 1. Payola 2. New single at this point, I'd recommend a new single Payolla doesn't work and we know that. I don't know why people even bring it up like it's a valid option that actually works. Don't be fooled people. Payolla can not make people like a song more than they do.
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Post by mugshot on May 16, 2007 8:11:56 GMT -5
^No but it makes it chart higher and gives it more exposure. Its the difference between having a song nobody hears and at least exposing it to the most potential buyers as possible.
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Post by desertflower on May 16, 2007 8:19:32 GMT -5
Funny how her bullet is dropping but Never Again is #4 on I-tunes. I wonder if RCA is trying to teach Kelly a lesson? Perez has another Blog up this morning about Kelly...and he had 2 up yesterday. They are NOT complimentry. Funny how he never went after her until she started fighting with RCA. I wonder if Kelly is doing damage control?
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Post by jenglisbe on May 16, 2007 8:41:08 GMT -5
^No but it makes it chart higher and gives it more exposure. Its the difference between having a song nobody hears and at least exposing it to the most potential buyers as possible. Yet its download totals fell last week despite all of her TV appearances.
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