Kelly Clarkson 'Never Again' (Now on iTunes!)

[carriefan0209]

true. and the conspiracy theories are getting OLD. fans of beyonce, britney, or xtina never blamed the record label for "ruining the song" just because it underperformed. its actually kinda ridiculous attacking clive for "manipulating the radio to hurt kelly". i just wish people would breath in, get a grip, and move on. kelly's next single, according the trend, should be BIG!.

[eljefro]

carriefan0209 said:

true. and the conspiracy theories are getting OLD. fans of beyonce, britney, or xtina never blamed the record label for "ruining the song" just because it underperformed. its actually kinda ridiculous attacking clive for "manipulating the radio to hurt kelly". i just wish people would breath in, get a grip, and move on. kelly's next single, according the trend, should be BIG!.

I think the label deserves SOME blame for all the negative press and leaked info. Not for the way the song has turned out but all this negative press and drama is unfortunate and puts Kelly in an odd position, especially since she has never really been a controversial figure.

All it would take is Clive Davis making some kind of brief statement in support of Kelly but he isn't doing that...so....

[oscillations.]

adonis said:

cherrycrush said:

Two options:
1. Payola
2. New single

at this point, I'd recommend a new single

Payolla doesn't work and we know that. I don't know why people even bring it up like it's a valid option that actually works. Don't be fooled people. Payolla can not make people like a song more than they do.

Not to make people like it, but to give people the appearance it is doing better that it is. Payola CAN work wonders in that regard. A temporary, unsatisfactory solution at best. They really do need to bring on the (hopefully) redeeming second single, ASAP. Hopefully, this album is singles-deep, despite the rumors that it is one note & not all that promising.

[Patches]

Please he will pimp Kelly @ the AI Finale

[eljefro]

Clive didn't even show up on top 3 night like he always does, so I doubt it...he's either done with Idol or he hates this season...

[Peach]

wolfpack said:

Well its still doing well on downloads and she should see a surge after her AI performance too. Meh @ radio...it could be like Candyman and do decent download figures.

You know a song isn't doing so well when it starts being compared to "Candyman". :(

[Patches]

Ya'll know Candyman was a hot flop.

[oinapead]

Maybe Kelly has become uptight and arrogant, might happen to persons who aren't strong enough to cope with superstar dust....

[Patches]

[derek]

realnewlight said:

I really dont think their is any RCA conspiracy going on here...this is not the first time that very hyped first singles by female artists underperform...Deja Vu, Wind It UP, What You Waiting For, It's Like That, Dirrty, Me Against the Music and now Never Again...I think sometimes hype is its own worst enemy, because it sets expecationts too high, and then when the song fails to meet expectations on radio, it "flops".

But all those songs (other than Never Again as of yet) have one other thing in common...they were all followed up by HUGE 2nd or 3rd singles.

A little late, but Britney's with Jive, hun.

WHOA @ Never Again flopping! I knew it! She went too hardcore! :'(

[kellyfan1232]

I hope her next single is going to kick a$$!

[doodlebug]

eljefro said:

carriefan0209 said:

true. and the conspiracy theories are getting OLD. fans of beyonce, britney, or xtina never blamed the record label for "ruining the song" just because it underperformed. its actually kinda ridiculous attacking clive for "manipulating the radio to hurt kelly". i just wish people would breath in, get a grip, and move on. kelly's next single, according the trend, should be BIG!.

I think the label deserves SOME blame for all the negative press and leaked info. Not for the way the song has turned out but all this negative press and drama is unfortunate and puts Kelly in an odd position, especially since she has never really been a controversial figure.

All it would take is Clive Davis making some kind of brief statement in support of Kelly but he isn't doing that...so....

I think it's a little crazy to assume that Clive would or should lend a big statement of support at this point since she has been basically bashing him everywhere and taking credit for "winning" over him. After all, she is a 25-year-old with just 2 CDs out, and she is trying to imply she beat the big bad wolf when everyone else has to give in. What she has said and implied is her biggest hurt right now. There's no way he is going to come out and say "oh yeah, I bow down to her cause she's so right and smart and I'm dumb and mean." Seriously, do you really expect the man to say or admit anything, even if it were true. He can't back her up and then keep control over everyone else. As much as her fans want to think she is that special, she's really not. There are tons of stars who have been much bigger and better than Kelly who have to compromise. She has tried to imply she fought and won since day one and that all the "right choices" were hers. The girl needs to step back and keep her mouth shut and get her foot out of it at this point. Now she is trying to backtrack what she has been saying for over 2 weeks. She is just looking worse to a lot of people. So much for down-to-earth Kelly who doesn't lie or say anything she shouldn't. She may have dug herself a big grave this time. If this CD isn't big enough and good enough to pull her out, she may be in trouble. This song is just not that good for a variety of reasons, and a lot of people don't like it for many of those reasons. If it's the best she has to offer it could be bad news coming. It's also apparently not a good song to perform live, as so far the performances have not been that good. I'm seeing lots of people criticizing practically every performance of it so far and that includes a lot of her fans, let alone others who aren't that invested in her.

[realnewlight]

derek said:

realnewlight said:

I really dont think their is any RCA conspiracy going on here...this is not the first time that very hyped first singles by female artists underperform...Deja Vu, Wind It UP, What You Waiting For, It's Like That, Dirrty, Me Against the Music and now Never Again...I think sometimes hype is its own worst enemy, because it sets expecationts too high, and then when the song fails to meet expectations on radio, it "flops".

But all those songs (other than Never Again as of yet) have one other thing in common...they were all followed up by HUGE 2nd or 3rd singles.

A little late, but Britney's with Jive, hun.

WHOA @ Never Again flopping! I knew it! She went too hardcore! :'(

Huh, i know Britney is with Jive...what does that have to do with anything?

[missclarkson]

carriefan0209 said:

true. and the conspiracy theories are getting OLD. fans of beyonce, britney, or xtina never blamed the record label for "ruining the song" just because it underperformed. its actually kinda ridiculous attacking clive for "manipulating the radio to hurt kelly". i just wish people would breath in, get a grip, and move on. kelly's next single, according the trend, should be BIG!.

unfortunately i agree with this.
please dont become agulera fans with excuses and all the blames.
the song just simply isnt a good radio single. as simple as that.

[kellyfan1232]

Song is great, but not what radio wants.

[missclarkson]

kellyfan1232 said:

Song is great, but not what radio wants.

AMEN!
the song is great, better than SUBG WA MI etc .. but it's not what top 40 radio wants..
the song has lots of stuff going, in your face, angry, hard .... not what u usually hear on top 40 radio, especially from a pop female artist.
please dont blame RCA/clive or anybody ...

[Focus]

oh come on chexxxy, you know that Kelly didn't say anything until reporters started asking her questions about the label and what Clive said at that big HUGE Sony/BMG conference where Clive got up and trashed her and her album. What would you have her do?
I'm glad she had the balls to tell them the truth. You know the old saying "the truth will set you free". I hope it works for her.

[Focus]

missclarkson said:

kellyfan1232 said:

Song is great, but not what radio wants.

AMEN!
the song is great, better than SUBG WA MI etc .. but it's not what top 40 radio wants..
the song has lots of stuff going, in your face, angry, hard .... not what u usually hear on top 40 radio, especially from a pop female artist.
please dont blame RCA/clive or anybody ...

I would never blame anyone. I don't like what went on around this song and album, I think that was dirty pool, but I don't think there's any conspiracy. I love the song and I don't think it's done yet. I HOPE!! You never know though. It's a great and emotional song with such huge vocals, but much different than what you normally hear on Pop. I guess we'll know if it's done in a couple of weeks. Until then I'm going to keep requesting it at my local radio station, who by the way, also love it. :)

[sillyfunny]

it's not conspiracy, no sabotage etc . the song just simply isnt top 40 friendly.it's not a bad song at all, it just doesnt make a great radio single. the beat is inconsistent and it's not that catchy.

I completely DISAGREE!!! I'm not buying this BS anymore. The song is fine for radio. I can't believe that they would play songs by someone that humped a 14-year-old on stage (AKON) and not play Kelly's song. That's disgusting. He's nasty and foul. There's NO SUCH THING as radio friendly. It's whatever they want to play and what the label will pay for.

This is 100% Clive Davis and RCA!!! It's their fault. And radio has absolutely no backbone. They can't think for themselves. They've been brainwashed.

They all get an F for not supporting her song. Radio and Clive FLOPPED!!! These people are really pathetic. I can't even sympathize with this kind of mediocrity. What a bunch of brainless idiots.

[desertflower]

Who is Chexxxy? *confused*

New [url=hxxp://i4.tinypic.com/54ci1k2.jpg
]EW Cover[/url]

FINALLY a good picture of Kelly!

[realnewlight]

sillyfunny said:

it's not conspiracy, no sabotage etc . the song just simply isnt top 40 friendly.it's not a bad song at all, it just doesnt make a great radio single. the beat is inconsistent and it's not that catchy.

I completely DISAGREE!!! I'm not buying this BS anymore. The song is fine for radio. I can't believe that they would play songs by someone that humped a 14-year-old on stage (AKON) and not play Kelly's song. That's disgusting. He's nasty and foul. There's NO SUCH THING as radio friendly. It's whatever they want to play and what the label will pay for.

This is 100% Clive Davis and RCA!!! It's their fault. And radio has absolutely no backbone. They can't think for themselves. They've been brainwashed.

They all get an F for not supporting her song. Radio and Clive FLOPPED!!! These people are really pathetic. I can't even sympathize with this kind of mediocrity. What a bunch of brainless idiots.

Simple, because Akon's songs are instantly catchy and Never Again is not

[missclarkson]

i'm gonna repeat myself now.

if kelly had came up with SUBG part 2 and it's stalling outside the top 20, we could be suspicious on RCA/cilve's shadiness.
but this is a totally different situation. NA is raw, dark, angry, hard, in your face vocal. it has inconsistent beat and breaks, and the hook is not that catchy.
compare NA to the chick pop/rock songs that are doing well right now, GF and UUH. you'll see what i was talking about.
to me NA is a much better song than GF and UUH, especially GF lol. but for radio single? not so much.

[kellyfan1232]

UUH is a pretty good song, and it's catchy. NA is a great song and it's kind of catchy. GF sucks and it's extremely catchy.

Now which do you think top 40 radio likes the most? lol.

[sillyfunny]

Song is great, but not what radio wants.

Who cares what radio wants? It's not about them. Who died and said they had a kingdom? They're not the eighth wonder of the f*****g universe. It should be about promoting the record. The music industry b*****s and whines about CD sales being low, yet they're going to all sit back and watch Clive, RCA, and radio screw over Kelly Clarkson. They're fools.

They're going to have to lay in whatever bed they make. In the end, they can only blame themselves. They need to stop blaming iTunes, MySpace, and YouTube because they look stupid. Music Industry, take a good look in the mirror. You've dug your own grave!!! Your s**t STINKS!!!

But I don’t want to sound like a broken record or an angry b***h. So this is all I’m going to say. Good luck to everyone.

THE END.

[Deleted]

I'm curious how much recurrent play with previous hits Clarkson is getting at the moment? Could that be a factor in this stalling? Too much competition from herself?

I personally like the song, and am a bit shocked that it's already stalled.

Never-the-less, it hit N0.8 on the chart that counts and I'm happy with that. Radio hit or not.

[realnewlight]

???

[justfloating]

Umm U + Ur Hand is a great song and is catchy...im not just saying that because im a Pink fan. Its a catchy, upbeat, song. Thats all there is to it. The lyrics are smart, her voice is perfection, and it appeals to a large audience.
NA is great and catchy and her label does have something to do with its stalling, not all of it but record has more of an influence with advertising and marketing than some of you think.

[Modern Myth]

I still hear this all the time.
None of my friends would call it a flop because they hear it 24/7, hah.

Has this lost its bullet yet?

[desertflower]

Kelly is being played in re-currents ALOT. Maybe people are tired of Kelly...over-exposure. I live in Phoenix and I haven't heard Never Again, but they still play Breakaway and SUBG alot.

It's like she never took a break.

Has this lost its bullet yet

Yep, now -46. If RCA doesn't do something, it is going to go in major freefall.

[missclarkson]

i dont even what to think about MD era now ... it started out so well as the most anticipated album of the year and kelly as the most played artist on radio 2006...
well, this is the reality now. we have some artists who are successful and are sticking with that, no risk, no changing direction, the if it aint broke, dont fix it idea ..
another kind is the opposite... they want to sing what they love, follow their heart and soul ...keep growing as artists, keep changing their sound, take risks, which unfortunately is seen as rebel by the record label.

back to MD, now NA might be peaking (more than 1 month b4 CD release), RCA better think hard and act quick. I hope they dont do their usual waiting forever on releasing single kindda thing.
It'll be interesting to see how much support RCA will give to MD. Singles timing on breakaway were perfect!
They probably will wait awhile until idol finale performance of NA ... If that doesnt help, what are they going to do?
Will the 2nd single be another hard hitting uptempo? or will it be a ballad? given that NA didnt do much...

Before NA, people were already talking about her first week sales, how it probably would match beyonce debut on 500K+ (including me)... now i cant even predict her first week sales

well this all could be turned around by tomorrow for all i know .. kelly has proven me wrong so many times before ..
one thing for sure though, WE ARE GOING TO GET A GREAT ALBUM, GREAT SONGS, ALL KELLY AND ABOUT KELLY.