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Post by Monroe on Feb 16, 2009 17:23:50 GMT -5
What I really find disturbing about Hook Up being the 2nd single is, besides it just being a sub par song, the song is also a freakin Katy Perry LEFTOVER! Am I the only one who's extremely perturbed that someone of Kelly's caliber is using Katy Perry rejects as her 2nd single? What's even worse is that it doesn't even sound like a Kelly song. It's like they lobotomized all of her personality and just told her to sing songs this time around. Not a fan of the singles this era at ALL.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Feb 16, 2009 17:25:20 GMT -5
What I really find disturbing about Hook Up being the 2nd single is, besides it just being a sub par song, the song is also a freakin Katy Perry LEFTOVER! Am I the only one who's extremely perturbed that someone of Kelly's caliber is using Katy Perry rejects as her 2nd single? Nope. You're not the only one.
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Post by Haley on Feb 16, 2009 17:27:33 GMT -5
Yeah, it will be interesting to hear Kelly put her twist on these Katy Perry songs
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Post by Monroe on Feb 16, 2009 17:29:02 GMT -5
The funny thing is I don't even think Katy pulled that song off well and I would think she would fit that song better then Clarkson. lol.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Feb 16, 2009 17:33:13 GMT -5
The funny thing is that when Kelly's been asked about Hook Up in recent interviews, she says that she loves the song and that "it's very much something she would say". I couldn't disagree more with that. None of Kelly's (written) songs are nothing like that (granted, a lot of them are boy-bashing, depressing songs, but I still don't think she would write anything like in Hook Up)
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Post by Monroe on Feb 16, 2009 17:34:58 GMT -5
The song sounds like something a sorority girl would sing and Kelly isn't a sorority girl.
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Post by aTunes on Feb 16, 2009 17:37:25 GMT -5
Yeah, the song seems perfect for someone with that "sorority girl" type image like Katy Perry, but it in no way fits Kelly to me.
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Post by sweptaway on Feb 16, 2009 17:51:16 GMT -5
wow...who knew the experts knew Kelly better than she knew herself LOL
If Kelly says the song sounds like something she would say I suppose it would make sense to believe her since I'm sure none of us are privy to her personal life and how she interacts with guys who may approach her.
The fact that she doesn't date around would be a good indication that Kelly, in fact, does not hook up, would it not? just sayin.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Feb 16, 2009 17:56:34 GMT -5
I for one, am not questioning her beliefs, it's just that the song Hook Up is horribly written, and I don't think Kelly would write anything like that. I realize I don't know her personally and I'm not trying to come off like I know everything about her - it's just so different than all her other songs, that's all, and I'm not a fan of the song in its current form.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Feb 16, 2009 18:01:14 GMT -5
I don't really mind I Do Not Hook Up. It's not very strong or weak, it's just average. The second single is the most crucial single in determining an albums longevity. They came out of the gate strong with My Life Would Suck Without You and while some may not believe it's her best material it has a strong hook and created the buzz needed for All I Ever Wanted. The second single is where they should dip into the quality tracks of the album. By listening to the demos alone I can say that Save You or The Day We Fell Apart would have been better choices to release next. I Do Not Hook Up just isn't catchy enough. While I could see it being a moderate hit I couldn't see it exploding (and an explosive second single is just what they need). Oh well, maybe Kelly will bring the song to another level, at least I hope so. Bad second single choices can really derail an era.
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Post by aTunes on Feb 16, 2009 18:05:58 GMT -5
I don't really mind I Do Not Hook Up. It's not very strong or weak, it's just average. The second single is the most crucial single in determining an albums longevity. They came out of the gate strong with My Life Would Suck Without You and while some may not believe it's her best material it has a strong hook and created the buzz needed for All I Ever Wanted. The second single is where they should dip into the quality tracks of the album. By listening to the demos alone I can say that Save You or The Day We Fell Apart would have been better choices to release next. I Do Not Hook Up just isn't catchy enough. While I could see it being a moderate hit I couldn't see it exploding (and an explosive second single is just what they need). Oh well, maybe Kelly will bring the song to another level, at least I hope so. Bad second single choices can really derail an era. I completely agree with everything you said there. I've always considered the 2nd single to generally be the most important single form an album, because of the longevity factor you mentioned. I just will really hate to see her get off track by releasing something like Hook Up, when MLWSWY has done such a great job establishing her again. It would be heartbreaking to see this album only have 1 big hit (not that I'm saying if they release Hook Up that will for sure happen, but I think it makes that scenario a stronger possibility).
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Post by ba19 on Feb 16, 2009 18:19:30 GMT -5
I always thought the 3rd single was the most important in determining the era(except of course after the first), if it does well then your album will likely have great longevity.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Feb 16, 2009 18:20:29 GMT -5
The first single got people's attention, now with the second, they (RCA) need to keep that attention. If IDNHU underperforms/flops/whatever, it could screw up the entire era, which is something I don't want to see happen at all.
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Post by otternobetter87 on Feb 16, 2009 18:33:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised by all the hate for IDNHU.. Personally, I like it even BETTER than LWS.. its catchy, and I love the build up to the chorus.
I also wouldn't consider it a "katy Perry reject" either.. which to me implies that it wasn't good enough to make the album. Like Kelly has stated, the song didn't make the cut because she couldn't have IKAG and IDNHU on the same album.. its a bit contradicting.
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Post by atgs on Feb 16, 2009 18:36:00 GMT -5
Not that I doubt Kelly, but I think in this new era she's always going to say she loves the stuff on her album and the singles. I have problems believing the Kelly who fought for My December loves Hook Up all that much. I think even the bonus song would be a better single than Hook Up.
You are not. It's just wrong, it should be a bonus track at the very best.
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Post by blurple on Feb 16, 2009 18:36:01 GMT -5
IDHU is pretty sassy. I think it's a great 2nd single IMO.
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Post by Revelry on Feb 16, 2009 18:36:15 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of IDNHU but i hope it does well for Kelly's sake. I would really like her to have at least one song that she co-wrote as a single this era. Regarding Kelly's comments on the song, She's not an idiot, she knows she has to sell it to the public. She can't be like yeah its a leftover that the label wanted me to record lol.
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Post by picklerclarkson on Feb 16, 2009 18:46:05 GMT -5
I actually think the song suits Kelly really well.
I love the buildup. I have a feeling its going to be a lot rockier than the demo. I also like it better than MLWSWY. She said she changed it a little.
Why are you all writing off IDNHU before you even heard it?
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Post by aTunes on Feb 16, 2009 18:50:06 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of IDNHU but i hope it does well for Kelly's sake. I would really like her to have at least one song that she co-wrote as a single this era. Regarding Kelly's comments on the song, She's not an idiot, she knows she has to sell it to the public. She can't be like yeah its a leftover that the label wanted me to record lol. Exactly. We don't have any clue what her real feelings about the song are. I mean I doubt she hates it, because I'm sure she would have fought it being on the album if she did, but I also doubt she loves it.
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Post by picklerclarkson on Feb 16, 2009 18:55:49 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of IDNHU but i hope it does well for Kelly's sake. I would really like her to have at least one song that she co-wrote as a single this era. Regarding Kelly's comments on the song, She's not an idiot, she knows she has to sell it to the public. She can't be like yeah its a leftover that the label wanted me to record lol. Exactly. We don't have any clue what her real feelings about the song are. I mean I doubt she hates it, because I'm sure she would have fought it being on the album if she did, but I also doubt she loves it. She said it will be her favorite song to perform even over her OWN material. I think that speaks for itself....
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Post by aTunes on Feb 16, 2009 18:57:42 GMT -5
Exactly. We don't have any clue what her real feelings about the song are. I mean I doubt she hates it, because I'm sure she would have fought it being on the album if she did, but I also doubt she loves it. She said it will be her favorite song to perform even over her OWN material. I think that speaks for itself.... Not necessarily. If the label's telling her to hype up the song because they want it as the 2nd single, I doubt she's gonna try to fight them. She's knows what happened when she fought the label so much with MD, she didn't sell.
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Post by atgs on Feb 16, 2009 19:02:09 GMT -5
That's true. To be honest, I think I just want her to do so well this time, to be really big, that I probably worry too much.
I can imagine IDNHU beeing fun to perform.
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Post by handler on Feb 16, 2009 19:08:15 GMT -5
I'm a big Kelly fan but I think Hook Up is awful and MLWSWY is just okay. Two formula by-the-numbers songs, and this is coming from someone who loves ear candy.
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Post by elessar on Feb 16, 2009 19:09:59 GMT -5
Why are you all writing off IDNHU before you even heard it? IA. I don't know how people can already be complaining about the single choices this era when we've only heard Kelly's version of one song. (Well, and The Day We Fell Apart, but I doubt a bonus track will end up being a single.)
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Post by aTunes on Feb 16, 2009 19:13:28 GMT -5
Maybe she does really love the song, and maybe her final version will be a lot better,. All I know is the version we have is very underwhelming, and I still don't like the idea of her having to take Katy's leftovers, especially when said leftover is going to be a single (and sorry but I don't buy that bit for one second about IDNHU not being on Katy's album because she couldn't have that and IKAG on the same album).
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Post by blurple on Feb 16, 2009 19:15:56 GMT -5
I have no problems with IDHU being in Kelly's album. I do have a slight issue with Long Shot being in her album too though because while IDHU is catchy and a real good pop song, LS sounds horrid to me.
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Post by JORDAN on Feb 16, 2009 19:16:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm reserving my judgment of the second single until I hear Kelly's version. She said hers is different..
And I agree with the whole , having trouble believing how Kelly feels this era. I hate Clive..
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Post by atgs on Feb 16, 2009 19:19:32 GMT -5
Me too...
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Post by Callmeatomic on Feb 16, 2009 20:31:48 GMT -5
It's not awful, it will sound much better then Katy as well. It's catchy, not as as big/brash as MLWSWY, but thank god it's not a ballad.
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Post by Juanca on Feb 16, 2009 21:00:17 GMT -5
Regarding Kelly's comments on Katy Perry's song... it just brought to my mind her comments on how angry and disappointed she was when the label sent her Lindsay Lohan's rejects and other rejects for her to sing on her 3rd album. She said something like she was not at that level and she was fighting for new material and not rejects... right? Interesting to see how things can turn out in the lapse of an album era...
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