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Post by CammyCan on Feb 16, 2009 21:01:36 GMT -5
Actually she said something like she would have no problem singing other people's songs if she liked the material. She also said something about not wanting to sing something that was just on someone else's album just a year prior.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Feb 16, 2009 21:03:23 GMT -5
Regarding Kelly's comments on Katy Perry's song... it just brought to my mind her comments on how angry and disappointed she was when the label sent her Lindsay Lohan's rejects and other rejects for her to sing on her 3rd album. She said something like she was not at that level and she was fighting for new material and not rejects... right? Interesting to see how things can turn out in the lapse of an album era... Exactly. |
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Post by circadian on Feb 16, 2009 21:06:15 GMT -5
I don't get all the hate for Hook Up, I'm sure if we didn't know it was a Katy Perry penned song, the song wouldn't get all this bashing. And I'm not in Katy's side, I'm just saying that we haven't even heard Kelly's version... we don't know how much she changed the melody or the instrumentation. Remember SUBG is the way it is because of Kelly. We should give her a little more credit. Yeah, she's following the label's advice this time around, but I'm sure she's not willing to get crap from them. She has stand up for herself a lot of times since the Thankful era, I don't know how some of you think she's just being a Clive's/RCA's/whoever's puppet this time around.
And about the Lindsay song, she never said she was offended because it was a Lindsay song, she said she was mad because the label wanted her to sing a song that was on an album that had just been released... or something like that. If she didn't like the songs intended to be for other people, she wouldn't have recorded neither SUBG nor Save You nor the Aranda's songs
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Post by Philippe on Feb 16, 2009 21:12:52 GMT -5
Regarding Kelly's comments on Katy Perry's song... it just brought to my mind her comments on how angry and disappointed she was when the label sent her Lindsay Lohan's rejects and other rejects for her to sing on her 3rd album. She said something like she was not at that level and she was fighting for new material and not rejects... right? Interesting to see how things can turn out in the lapse of an album era... I think this is more about maturity than something else. She was pretty a young woman (and she still is) at the time and when she saying stuff like that. I always felt this was coming from the influence her ex manager had on her. I guess she was feeling that way too, but a good manager would have told her that she was still new in this industrie and that people at her lebal knew what was good or not of her career. Now she grew up, she's with a new manager so maybe she just sees things differently now...with more maturity. |
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Post by Focus on Feb 16, 2009 21:13:05 GMT -5
Actually she said something like she would have no problem singing other people's songs if she liked the material. She also said something about not wanting to sing something that was just on someone else's album just a year prior. Exactly. |
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Post by ƒreakshow on Feb 16, 2009 21:16:11 GMT -5
Actually she said something like she would have no problem singing other people's songs if she liked the material. She also said something about not wanting to sing something that was just on someone else's album just a year prior. Finally someone who has the facts right. |
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Post by FacetheFacts on Feb 16, 2009 21:19:54 GMT -5
Also SUBG was written for Pink and Duff
I just want her to have no material because MLWSWY is really making me mad because it is really boring and has the same formula , i have heard a million times.
I know their is compromising but why is she giving up on everything she stood for in MD
I feel like this era is so forced because even her look on the album cover and the sad impersonations on poppy wanna be singers.
I just can't look anymore because I am so disappointed I wanted her to be the next Alanis Morrissete or to have a career like her, because she could rock and still have great song. Like the likes of Jagged Little Pill a great rock confessional cd.
All those people who wished for B2 really make me mad because look what she is turning into ... a leftover, a copy, a fake, and that is nothing like the My December Kelly I once knew.
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Post by - d!Va - on Feb 16, 2009 21:20:36 GMT -5
Yeah, the song seems perfect for someone with that "sorority girl" type image like Katy Perry, but it in no way fits Kelly to me. What? Sorority girls do hook up. They are mostly slut. Hook Up fits kelly's wholesome girl next door image perfect. |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Feb 16, 2009 21:20:57 GMT -5
I don't get all the hate for Hook Up, I'm sure if we didn't know it was a Katy Perry penned song, the song wouldn't get all this bashing. I don't agree with this. I'm not questioning I Do Not Hook Up as a second single because Katy Perry wrote it (as she has the ability to write/make some really good material ala Hot N Cold). My issue is with the song itself. It's average, too average to be the second single. But as I said before, maybe Kelly's vocals will give the song that much needed umph. I definitely believe that Kelly was happy with I Do Not Hook Up being the second single. She has said many times in various interviews how much she relates to it. |
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Post by ƒreakshow on Feb 16, 2009 21:23:26 GMT -5
I definitely believe that Kelly was happy with I Do Not Hook Up being the second single. She has said many times in various interviews how much she relates to it. Naah, Clive's forcing her to say that!  [/sarcasm] |
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Post by - d!Va - on Feb 16, 2009 21:23:57 GMT -5
Hook Up isn't katy's leftover. It doesn't matter anywAy. Have you all forgotten about breakaway being avril's? Also miss independent? It won't matter, it's still going to be a big hit
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Post by picklerclarkson on Feb 16, 2009 21:25:31 GMT -5
I didn't know everyone here has ties to the record label and know exactly what Kelly is thinking and feeling!
Why don't you wait to hear the album before you say she is selling out. This is a compromise.
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Post by FacetheFacts on Feb 16, 2009 21:27:18 GMT -5
IDC is it is a hit , i want music with substance. I think to many people in this board only like the song if it can get top 20 on radio.
In 20 years people are going to remember songs that were either smashes, cultral revoultions, or something with immpecable substance, and IDHU is none of those
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Post by CammyCan on Feb 16, 2009 21:28:05 GMT -5
In other news, MLWSWY is up to #5 in Australia, and gets certified Gold.
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Post by picklerclarkson on Feb 16, 2009 21:30:12 GMT -5
IDC is it is a hit , i want music with substance. I think to many people in this board only like the song if it can get top 20 on radio. In 20 years people are going to remember songs that were either smashes, cultral revoultions, or something with immpecable substance, and IDHU is none of those You haven't even heard it yet! Gosh |
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Post by - d!Va - on Feb 16, 2009 21:35:21 GMT -5
I don't really mind I Do Not Hook Up. It's not very strong or weak, it's just average. The second single is the most crucial single in determining an albums longevity. They came out of the gate strong with My Life Would Suck Without You and while some may not believe it's her best material it has a strong hook and created the buzz needed for All I Ever Wanted. The second single is where they should dip into the quality tracks of the album. By listening to the demos alone I can say that Save You or The Day We Fell Apart would have been better choices to release next. I Do Not Hook Up just isn't catchy enough. While I could see it being a moderate hit I couldn't see it exploding (and an explosive second single is just what they need). Oh well, maybe Kelly will bring the song to another level, at least I hope so. Bad second single choices can really derail an era. Very disagree! I think hook up is a very strong single. Just listen to that catchy hook, it stays in your head. Wait til we hear her version, it'll be another classic power pop clarkson. The Day We Fell Apart is not single material at all. It would never be considered to be even a contender. That song is all wrong for pop radio, especially from Kelly. While Save You is a great song, I'm not too sure about it as a pop single. I think they would go with a different ballad as 3rd single ("already gone" maybe) Save You and The Day We Fell are better songs than hook up. But Hook Up is a far better/stronger pop single. No doubt! The 3rd single , probably be the quality track, while first and second bubblegum singles would put Kelly back to the top of the chart. |
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Post by - d!Va - on Feb 16, 2009 21:40:18 GMT -5
Regarding Kelly's comments on Katy Perry's song... it just brought to my mind her comments on how angry and disappointed she was when the label sent her Lindsay Lohan's rejects and other rejects for her to sing on her 3rd album. She said something like she was not at that level and she was fighting for new material and not rejects... right? Interesting to see how things can turn out in the lapse of an album era... 2 different situation. Lindsay's "black hole" was released and is the track on her last CD. Hook up, breakaway, miss independent are all never released by katy,avril or xtina |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Feb 16, 2009 21:45:31 GMT -5
While Save You is a great song, I'm not too sure about it as a pop single. I think they would go with a different ballad as 3rd single ("already gone" maybe) Of course they're going to most likely go with Already Gone third, it's already being printed on the promotional posters beside I Do Not Hook Up and My Life Would Suck Without You. lol |
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Post by picklerclarkson on Feb 16, 2009 21:48:01 GMT -5
While Save You is a great song, I'm not too sure about it as a pop single. I think they would go with a different ballad as 3rd single ("already gone" maybe) Of course they're going to most likely go with Already Gone third, it's already being printed on the promotional posters beside I Do Not Hook Up and My Life Would Suck Without You. lol Gone was also on the sticker for Breakaway. So it can be misleading. I kind of hope it is Already Gone. I want Kelly to get one single that she wrote on. |
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Post by FacetheFacts on Feb 16, 2009 21:54:45 GMT -5
IT IS A KATY PERRY SONG
Katy has her own style cammpy, novelty, sonic, yet catching, great, pop rock tracks, and that is not kelly.
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Post by Cold as Ice on Feb 16, 2009 21:56:32 GMT -5
Word. A sloppy Katy Perry leftover as the second single from KELLY CLARKSON'S 'comeback' album? Disgusting. |
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Post by - d!Va - on Feb 16, 2009 22:01:24 GMT -5
Avril did release a good quality ballad 'when you're gone' after the embarassing smash girlfriend. It pretty much killed that album's momentum. Her third single was ignored.
I never doubt kelly's vocal. She would make Hook Up another power pop anthem. It'd be another 1~2 punch like subg, bthe.
Although this will be interesting cuz Howard Benson produced this. Had she gone to max/luke, it would have been another guarantee smash. Max n luke have been behind all the no 1 female poprock hits since subg.
It probably won't be as poppy as luke/max sound.
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Post by - d!Va - on Feb 16, 2009 22:13:02 GMT -5
All these Hook Up hating are fun! Similar to breakaway, when we found out it's an avril song. I can't wait to see if their opinion changes when hook up blows up on pop radio. Wait for it!
Kellys been saying about a different genre /style of ballads she's never done (with Ryan tedder). I bet it's another bleeding love/better in time ish. And I bet it's Already Gone. They did many different style of songs.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Feb 16, 2009 22:15:48 GMT -5
She said that all her songs she did with Ryan are all very different from each other - so it seems like there's going to be a lot of variety there.
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Post by clarksodi on Feb 16, 2009 22:20:33 GMT -5
First, I, too, dislike Katy's version of Hook Up. However, I have not listened to Kelly's yet and have no idea what she has changed on the song. The slightest melody changes, emphasis on words, raspiness, emotion, higher notes, and the best pop voice can improve a song tremendously. MLWSWY's lyrics were awful when I first read them, but after I heard Kelly sing the song, I fell in love with it (as did millions of other people). In addition, the label would not let her release a song that could flop. This era is extremely well planned and calculated for success.
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Post by clarksodi on Feb 16, 2009 22:26:03 GMT -5
IT IS A KATY PERRY SONG Katy has her own style cammpy, novelty, sonic, yet catching, great, pop rock tracks, and that is not kelly. Kelly co-wrote on "Walk Away" along with Kara DioGuardi, who co-wrote with Katy on "Hook Up". Take a moment to read both of the song's lyrics. Both songs share a similar message and share the same lyrical structure. The reason why Kelly liked "Hook Up" was because she felt it was something she could have written, which if you read WA's lyrics, it is not hard to believe. I'll even make it easy for everyone: You've got your mother and your brother Every other undercover Tellin' you what to say (say) You think I'm stupid But the truth is That it's cupid, baby Lovin' you has made me this way So before you point your finger Get your hands off of my trigger Oh yeah You need to know this situation's getting old And now the more you talk The less I can take, oh I'm looking for attention Not another question Should you stay or should you go? Well, if you don't have the answer Why are you still standin' here? Hey, hey, hey, hey Just walk away Just walk away Just walk away I waited here for you Like a kid waiting after school So tell me how come you never showed (showed)? I gave you everything And never asked for anything And look at me I'm all alone (alone) So, before you start defendin' Baby, stop all your pretendin' I know you know I know So what's the point in being slow Let's get the show on the road today Hey I'm looking for attention Not another question Should you stay or should you go? Well, if you don't have the answer Why are you still standin' here? Hey, hey, hey, hey Just walk away Just walk away Just walk away I wanna love I want a fire To feel the burn My desires I wanna man by my side Not a boy who runs and hides Are you gonna fight for me? Die for me? Live and breathe for me? Do you care for me? 'Cause if you don't then just leave I'm looking for attention Not another question Should you stay or should you go? Well, if you don't have the answer Why are you still standin' here? Hey, hey, hey, hey Just walk away If you don't have the answer Walk away Just walk (walk) away (Just walk away) Then just leave Yeah yeah Walk away Walk away Walk away |
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Post by Cold as Ice on Feb 16, 2009 22:26:38 GMT -5
All these Hook Up hating are fun! Similar to breakaway, when we found out it's an avril song. I can't wait to see if their opinion changes when hook up blows up on pop radio. Wait for it!Kellys been saying about a different genre /style of ballads she's never done (with Ryan tedder). I bet it's another bleeding love/better in time ish. And I bet it's Already Gone. They did many different style of songs. Some of us are not as shallow as you, missclarkson. |
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Post by repentyourself on Feb 16, 2009 23:15:18 GMT -5
you guys do realize kelly is an extremely versatile singer, right? she loves and sings all types of songs, and so what if she sings a couple formulaic & shallow songs? she has 100 other songs to make up for it if you prefer her deeper songs! (BOY, addicted, hear me, and pretty much all of MD) from my knowledge of kelly, i'm pretty sure she doesn't hook up. she's said herself she doesn't want to always put out an album of the same material, tbh i don't want another MD so soon, because i want my girl to get her chance to be in the spotlight. |
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Post by rellybois on Feb 16, 2009 23:29:59 GMT -5
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Post by jessayli on Feb 16, 2009 23:31:42 GMT -5
I think all of the songs that Kelly wrote on AIEW will keep the many of us that are fans of her songwriting as well as non-cookie cutter pop music (aka not MLWSWY) happy. Moreover, many songs that she did not write should also have a fresh pop sound that is different from current female pop artists (such as Whyyawannabringmedown).
I am not a Katy Perry fan, but I like IDNHU, and am taken aback by how many on this board are turned off by it. To me, it is catchier than MLWSWY and has stronger lyrics. Moreover, it seems very Kelly in the sense that she, well, does not hook up. To me, the song kind of has that head-banging pop/rock sound reminiscent of SUBG; try listening to it with headphones... you may like it more, especially after a few listens. How many songs over the last decade have been about hooking up or wanting to in one way or another? More than we can count. How many songs have been about NOT hooking up? Exactly. I think the content of the song will cause many to embrace it and give it an edge.
Finally, I take Kelly's word when she says that she would not record something that she doesn't like. Yes, she even admits that MLWSWY is formula, and it may not be her favorite song that she has done, but I believe she thinks it has a nice beat and is a fun song. She isn't being forced into anything, and I think (particularly in regards to her writing) there will be a lot on AIEW that is creative and different. Kelly did say that AIEW pushes the [artistic] envelope more than MD.
I am a Kelly Clarkson fan because of her incredibly powerful and emotive voice, as well as her desire to make music that is pop (which I like) but also unique in some way or another, which I expect to see on AIEW.
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