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Post by carriefan0209 on Feb 11, 2009 10:04:10 GMT -5
I bet they are delaying the announcement of album of the year so they can redo the criteria for it so they can include worthy nominations...
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Post by drock89 on Feb 11, 2009 10:25:38 GMT -5
If Carrie wins EOTY, they need to have the last solo female who won the award present it to her. Reba gave it to Shania, it's only fitting that Shania gives it to Carrie. (should it happen...)
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Post by robrt30 on Feb 11, 2009 10:55:50 GMT -5
I wonder how much emphasis will be place on the fan voting as far as percentages? IIRC, it was 100% fan voted last year, at least that's what this article below says. (I did vote and I voted for Kenny because I thought he was most deserving). Rascal Flatts were within the rules, but perhaps a little unethical, when they tried to entice fans to vote for them with a free downloaded song: www.theboot.com/2008/05/19/kenny-chesney-questions-entertainer-win/This year, it is a mix of academy votes and fan votes: www.acmcountry.com/awards/votingcriteria.phpSorry, jp, I know none of that answers your question. I'm just kind of brainstorming out loud here.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 11, 2009 10:58:11 GMT -5
What is up with the "Johnny and June" love? I am shocked that got 3 nods, and "Just A Dream" didn't get in Single or Song.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 11, 2009 11:22:46 GMT -5
And Rascal Flatts doesn't make it into EotY for a second straight country awards show. I think this is notable because I would have thought that if ACM members felt strongly enough about Flatts not getting the EotY nod at the 2008 CMAs, this was their chance to send a message.
Surprised at the "Johnny & June" love, but not upset to see Heidi Newfield get some recognition. She wasn't exactly an obvious candidate to crack the top-10 on country radio as a female without the critical and/or commercial momentum of Carrie, Miranda and Taylor.
The love for "I Saw God Today" mystifies me but it has done so well across the awards board.
Alan Jackson is nowhere to be found in these nominations and I'm especially surprised (and none too pleased) that he isn't in the Male Vocalist of the Year category. I would rather see Alan in there over Toby Keith.
I'm really glad to see Lee Ann Womack nominated and hope that she performs at the ACMs.
Also really pleased to see Carrie Underwood make the Entertainer of the Year category. Surprised not to see "Just a Dream" in the Single/Song categories.
I'm a little surprised that Zac Brown Band didn't make the Top Vocal Group category in addition to the Top New Vocal Group category. I'm also surprised that Darius Rucker didn't figure at all into these nominations. I thought "Don't Think I Don't About It" had a real shot of getting nominated in the Single or Song of the Year categories.
Nice to see the Jamey Johnson love. I would have been happy if James Otto had scored some love for "Just Got Started Lovin' You," as well.
I'm puzzled by the delay in announcing Album of the Year. I wonder if there's some late re-evaluation of the eligibility criteria going on because of how many albums the current eligibility criteria excludes. I would be very happy if somehow revised criteria resulted in AotY nods for Jamey Johnson and Lee Ann Womack.
ETA: robrt30, I'm pretty sure last year's ACM EotY vote was also a fan/ACM mix -- we found that out the day after last year's awards show, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Feb 11, 2009 11:29:11 GMT -5
I think Johnny and June is a great, underrated song, and while I dont think it will win much, I too am glad it has a chance to be recognized.
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Post by jptexas on Feb 11, 2009 11:50:27 GMT -5
I think Johnny and June is a great, underrated song, and while I dont think it will win much, I too am glad it has a chance to be recognized. Although, I think Johnny and June is a good song, the title helped in the nominating process. Anytime you can get Johnny Cash into your song, even as a title, you have a shot at recognition. The same could be said for "Tim Mcgraw". That was a good song also, but it got alot of attention for Taylor. Smart move on both counts. Having said that, to leave a song like JAD out of the nomination list is really disappointing. Just look at the number of hits on utube. Well, the EOTY nomination supercedes all this, so again, I'm happy for Carrie.
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Post by Zach on Feb 11, 2009 12:10:07 GMT -5
Good to see some mix-up in the nominations, shocked to see Heidi Newfield nominated so much! Also extremely pleased to see LeAnn Rimes finally gettin' recognized for her efforts in always giving 100% in charity and related works.
Does anybody have a link to video of the announcements from the Early Show?
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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Feb 11, 2009 12:17:18 GMT -5
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Post by hoosy on Feb 11, 2009 12:26:45 GMT -5
Biggest surprise in the nominations is no Alan Jackson....I am stunned.
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Post by sbp17 on Feb 11, 2009 12:36:51 GMT -5
Glad to see the love for Heidi.
Glad to see an Entertainer nomination for Carrie.
Disappointed to see a video nomination for Roman White.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Feb 11, 2009 13:13:10 GMT -5
No Martina for Female Vocalist? Not that I'm complaining, but when was the last time she wasn't nominated? Very well-deserved nom for Carrie in Entertainer. When was the last time a solo female was nominated? Well, leila, the last solo female to be nominated for EOTY was Faith Hill in 2000. The last solo female to win EOTY was Shania Twain in 1999. As for Martina, she's been nominated for Top Female Vocalist every year since 1997. Glad to be of help ;)
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Post by jeff on Feb 11, 2009 13:31:57 GMT -5
I wonder how much emphasis will be place on the fan voting as far as percentages? IIRC, it was 100% fan voted last year, at least that's what this article below says. (I did vote and I voted for Kenny because I thought he was most deserving). Rascal Flatts were within the rules, but perhaps a little unethical, when they tried to entice fans to vote for them with a free downloaded song: www.theboot.com/2008/05/19/kenny-chesney-questions-entertainer-win/This year, it is a mix of academy votes and fan votes: www.acmcountry.com/awards/votingcriteria.phpSorry, jp, I know none of that answers your question. I'm just kind of brainstorming out loud here. ETA: robrt30, I'm pretty sure last year's ACM EotY vote was also a fan/ACM mix -- we found that out the day after last year's awards show, if I'm not mistaken. the exact mix/weight of the fan vote was never mentioned was it? im actually thinking the fan vote will only be significant if there is a close race.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 11, 2009 14:10:34 GMT -5
No Martina for Female Vocalist? Not that I'm complaining, but when was the last time she wasn't nominated? Very well-deserved nom for Carrie in Entertainer. When was the last time a solo female was nominated? Well, leila, the last solo female to be nominated for EOTY was Faith Hill in 2000. The last solo female to win EOTY was Shania Twain in 1999. As for Martina, she's been nominated for Top Female Vocalist every year since 1997. Glad to be of help ;) Hee!! Well done, leilamaurizia. I'm just going to point out that while Shania did indeed win for the 1999 calendar year and Faith did indeed get nominated for the 2000 calendar year, the actual nominations/ceremonies took place in 2000 and 2001, respectively (if I'm not mistaken). So it has been eight years since a solo woman has been nominated for Entertainer of the Year. The Dixie Chicks took home EotY in 2001 (the same year that Faith was nominated). jeff, there was no weight publicly assigned to fan voting versus ACM membership voting last year, that I recall.
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Post by cufan7 on Feb 11, 2009 16:32:13 GMT -5
Yes Carrie got an Entertainer nod! Even though I'm a biased Carrie fan I'm kinda surprised "Just A Dream" didn't get a single or song nomination!
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Post by zaclord on Feb 11, 2009 16:46:29 GMT -5
is voting for Entertainer closed already? it wont let me vote!
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Post by Blake on Feb 11, 2009 16:56:13 GMT -5
The Heidi Newfield nominations are the big surprise, obviously. She's full of potential, but her debut disc was a bit of a disappointment, and "Johnny and June" is just OK in my book. Still, she's a talented singer (love that feisty growl) with great stage presence. She's not a favorite in her categories, but good for her. Hopefully it inspires her creatively on the next album. I'm surprised she beat out "Just a Dream," though. Namedropping a couple legendary figures sure didn't hurt.
Jamey Johnson earned some richly-deserved rewards today. I'm surprised that his co-author, James Otto, didn't claim a nod for "Just Got Started Loving You." The ACM loves big chart hits, and that was the biggest of them all last year. Interesting that of the Single nominees, there are two No.1's ("Waitin' on a Woman," "You're Gonna Miss This"), a No. 7 ("Gunpowder and Lead"), a No. 10 ("In Color") and a No. 11 ("Johnny and June"). I only wish the Album category would not rely on just the top-selling releases.
The Flatts are in a bad patch right now; their new single is screaming up the charts, but I'm betting that their reign near the top is drawing to a close. Glad Underwood is in EOTY, but Sugarland should've pushed Strait out. Also happy to see Womack and Yearwood, two of the genre's greatest singers, at least receive some recognition.
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Post by zaclord on Feb 11, 2009 17:17:23 GMT -5
i wish Sugarland got EOTY instead of Strait too. :(
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Post by storm on Feb 11, 2009 17:42:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised with all of the Heidi Newfield nominations as well. I'm not sure I agree with them but it is nice to see some mix up.
I'm so proud of LeAnn. I hope this means she will finally perform "What I Cannot Change" that night.
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Post by Dustin J. on Feb 11, 2009 20:31:05 GMT -5
Randy Rogers Band for Top Vocal Group was somewhat of a shock for me. I'm not saying they don't deserve it... it was just a little surprising.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Feb 12, 2009 1:26:09 GMT -5
i wish Sugarland got EOTY instead of Strait too. :( Or instead of Carrie. Sugarland has paid their dues WAY more than Carrie has....and I know they haven't been a group that long, but individually, Kristian and Jennifer have paid WAY more dues than Carrie.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Feb 12, 2009 1:35:06 GMT -5
Well obviously the country music PTB disagrees, as Carrie is the Opry member...
Sugarland got the CMA nom, Carrie got the ACM nom. It all balances out
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Post by Lee on Feb 12, 2009 1:53:06 GMT -5
I'm surprised with all of the Heidi Newfield nominations as well. I'm not sure I agree with them but it is nice to see some mix up. I'm so proud of LeAnn. I hope this means she will finally perform "What I Cannot Change" that night. I agree about the performance. This would be a great opportunity to finally sing it on national television.
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Post by bigbluenote on Feb 12, 2009 2:05:08 GMT -5
This is the PERFECT opportunity for Shania to come bursting back into the country scene by opening the show!
If that happens, I don't care about anything else.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Feb 12, 2009 8:27:08 GMT -5
Peter Cooper of The Tennessean reports why the AOTY noms are yet to be announced: Brad Paisley leads surprising ACM packI guess it's safe to predict that That Lonesome Song will get an AOTY nom come March.
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Post by hoosy on Feb 12, 2009 8:39:13 GMT -5
^ Nice to see the ACM's rethink this. Smart move.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Feb 12, 2009 9:11:05 GMT -5
AotY contenders (IMO):
Lee Ann Womack Jamey Johnson Zac Brown Band Carrie/Taylor ?
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Post by couldbe on Feb 12, 2009 10:17:30 GMT -5
If Carrie wins EOTY, they need to have the last solo female who won the award present it to her. Reba gave it to Shania, it's only fitting that Shania gives it to Carrie. (should it happen...) I believe this is just the ACM. Reba gave it to Shania at the CMA, that is a big difference. The CMA are taken more seriously. I don't even think Shania was in attendance when she received this award at the ACM in 1999, she on tour in Australia. but it was important for her to be there for the CMA even though the CMA has never been that nice to Shania. I think the winner will be Brad paisley or maybe Kenny Chesney again. I just can't see Carrie Underwood in this category. I wouldn't consider her an entertainer and her concerts were averaging less than 7000 a show. That is far less than other woman who have won in this category.
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Post by what on Feb 12, 2009 10:34:22 GMT -5
i wish Sugarland got EOTY instead of Strait too. :( Or instead of Carrie. Sugarland has paid their dues WAY more than Carrie has....and I know they haven't been a group that long, but individually, Kristian and Jennifer have paid WAY more dues than Carrie. i didnt know that was part of the criteria. i would have preferrd both carrie and sugarland in there. together with kenny, brad and keith. that would have been an awesome EOTY lineup. entertainer is not just abt concerts. or else just rename the award to biggest tour award. its got a lot of factors. it embodies all the success of an artist, nt just ticket sales. tht argument of yours could also be used against sugarland, but id argue they should have been in the category too, not bec they headline some gigantic tour, but theyre one heck of great, compelling performaers, and their performances are always a blast to see. imo, carrie got in bec shes the best ambassador of country music right now. while her shows may nt have been as massive as kenny's, she played to a decent sized crowd. bt i think more than that, its just her overall presense and impact on country music in general that garnerd her the slot.
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Post by jptexas on Feb 12, 2009 12:19:21 GMT -5
If Carrie wins EOTY, they need to have the last solo female who won the award present it to her. Reba gave it to Shania, it's only fitting that Shania gives it to Carrie. (should it happen...) I believe this is just the ACM. Reba gave it to Shania at the CMA, that is a big difference. The CMA are taken more seriously. I don't even think Shania was in attendance when she received this award at the ACM in 1999, she on tour in Australia. but it was important for her to be there for the CMA even though the CMA has never been that nice to Shania. I think the winner will be Brad paisley or maybe Kenny Chesney again. I just can't see Carrie Underwood in this category. I wouldn't consider her an entertainer and her concerts were averaging less than 7000 a show. That is far less than other woman who have won in this category. I think the EOTY is more than just about how many people that pay to see you. It's about the artist and his/her contribution to country music, the awards, the sales, the way they represent country music and it's tradionions. Carrie outsells Kenny, she continues her number one streak for singles, her awards are numerous for an artist with two cds out, her induction into the Opry, etc. Just to add: if you don't consider her an entertainer, what did we all see at the most recent grammy awards. Her performance was seen as one of the best by alot of critics. I'm happy just to see Carrie's name on the list, but she earned it. Whether she'll ever get the win or not, it's still breaking that glass ceiling that so far has been dominated by the men in country music. So far, it's been dominated by a marketing artist that is really good at getting people in stadiums, good for Kenny. Is he really the best entertainer/singer/artist out there, I think not. Personally, I'd rather hear Carrie, or any other singer, in a smaller setting, sing her songs, and be entertained in that fashion. I don't want to be in a stadium with a blasting sound system that really doesn't do justice to the artist, while in the midst of a bunch of drunks partying and really not listening to the music, but just being in their own fantasy "country woodstock". But that's just me.
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