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Post by aTunes on Apr 20, 2009 16:05:38 GMT -5
This probably would've debuted at #1 on Mod rock if it had had a full week.
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Post by Pipa on Apr 20, 2009 20:45:12 GMT -5
I never noticed this until someone in another forum pointed it out, but the opening drums sound exactly like the ones in The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus' "You Better Pray".
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Post by Cody on Apr 20, 2009 21:08:55 GMT -5
lol I just noticed how the drum line is identical at the start to that of "You Better Pray" by RJA and I pointed that out before DTM posted it on M4B But yeah lol, thats all thats really similar about then thank god, this blows "You Better Pray" out of the water
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Post by fran182 on Apr 21, 2009 13:06:13 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 5 on Mediabase Alternative:
680 4 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1561 1 1560 8.963
80 stations playing.
Today, it reached top 20 on Mediabase Active:
144 17 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 877 8 869 3.752
69 stations playing.
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Post by Matt4319 on Apr 22, 2009 22:22:28 GMT -5
4/17: 000 29 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 0404 0 0404 (+404) 4/18: ??? 4/19: 000 15 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1011 0 1011 (+303) (avg. of 2 days) 4/20: 685 10 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1266 1 1265 (+255) 4/21: 680 04 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1561 1 1560 (+295) 4/22: 664 03 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1850 1 1849 (+289)
It's gaining around 275 a day on average lately; however, it's only 207 spins from #1 and "Feel Good Drag" is falling in spins. Expect this to be #1 tomorrow, which means it could have debuted #1 Mediabase if released on a Sunday (remember, the airplay week runs Sunday-Saturday, and they're updated a day later on Mediabase).
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 22, 2009 22:28:11 GMT -5
Had this come out four days earlier, Anberlin likely never would have had a #1 at mediabase or at billboard, and given Green Day's already had their share, I'm glad this held off just long enough. My question is, will this share any time at #1 with the new 311 track or will "Hey You" be forced to settle for a #2 peak. I think the Silversun Pickups song is also a legit pick to go to #1 if Green Day fails to monopolize.
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Post by when the pawn... on Apr 23, 2009 8:31:47 GMT -5
So now with a full week, KYE is #1 at Alt. I'm wondering if it'll maintain through Sunday though, as it's biggest day was day 1.
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Post by halo19 on Apr 23, 2009 9:37:19 GMT -5
For some reason, I don't think this'll be some blockbuster smash that stays at the top for a long time. I think "Panic Switch" has a legitimate shot to still top. I remember in 2003 fearing "Seven Nation Army" wouldn't be #1 just because of those Linkin Park songs, but it didn't discredit them at all.
Still, I think it could be there for like 3 or so weeks. It also depends when the band decides to release a follow-up.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 23, 2009 9:56:15 GMT -5
Had this come out four days earlier, Anberlin likely never would have had a #1 at mediabase or at billboard, and given Green Day's already had their share, I'm glad this held off just long enough. My question is, will this share any time at #1 with the new 311 track or will "Hey You" be forced to settle for a #2 peak. I think the Silversun Pickups song is also a legit pick to go to #1 if Green Day fails to monopolize. I think this has a monopoly on #1 at Alt for quite some time. I'm guessing Hey You will need to settle for #2.
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Post by fran182 on Apr 23, 2009 15:22:37 GMT -5
Today, it reached #1 on Mediabase Alternative:
668 1 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 2154 1 2153 11.748
81 stations playing.
Today, it reached top 10 on Mediabase Active:
187 8 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1266 5 1261 5.083
71 stations playing.
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Post by Cody on Apr 23, 2009 16:48:53 GMT -5
I hate whoever gave it the one spin last week, the DJ who spinned it should be fired. This should be a #1 debut
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Apr 24, 2009 0:20:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 10:28:46 GMT -5
I really need to move back to the US >>
I'm getting tired of not being able to see any vid because of copyrights
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Post by mcbrearty on Apr 24, 2009 12:08:42 GMT -5
The new video has that whole political theme again, its just gets boring.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 24, 2009 14:05:27 GMT -5
^Yeah the video was boring, and that concept just feels VERY tired. Really had a hard time watching that vid coming right off just seeing Nicjkelback's amazing new one for If Today Was Your Last Day.
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Post by mcbrearty on Apr 24, 2009 15:09:03 GMT -5
^Yeah the video was boring, and that concept just feels VERY tired. Really had a hard time watching that vid coming right off just seeing Nicjkelback's amazing new one for If Today Was Your Last Day. My thoughts exactly.
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Post by Ron57 on Apr 24, 2009 15:38:10 GMT -5
I kinda just noticed, though I'm no Green Day expert, of all the songs I've listened to before, I've never heard him scream like he does towards the end of "Know Your Enemy"...I kinda like it xD.
I hate videos like these, where all they do is perform the songs with flashy effects. They have no replay value whatsoever. They should make videos like, say, Handlebars by Flobots, or Savin' Me by Nickelback even.
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Post by fran182 on Apr 27, 2009 11:13:07 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 5 on Mediabase Active:
21 5 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1457 704 753 5.077
73 stations playing.
It's smashing on rock formats! As of today, it's #13 on Mediabase Triple A. I believe it would have been #1 on Alternative if it was released on a sunday on both Mediabase and Billboard/R&R. I really don't want to see this song as one of those that spent more than 10 weeks at the top.
I mean, it's so damn average! I'm sure there will be much better in the album.
"Last Night On Earth" really put me pumped for the album. Love it! :) It sounds so much like The Beatles and that is just awesome!
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Post by halo19 on Apr 27, 2009 22:21:55 GMT -5
I really don't want to see this song as one of those that spent more than 10 weeks at the top. I mean, it's so damn average! The reason why I don't think it'll be a monopoly smash is just what you said. I don't know if I've heard anyone say anything along the lines of "This is one of Green Day's best songs ever!" or the like, of this song. I don't think it'll go the way of "Brother" and the like, unless they insist promoting another song quickly or something. On that note I think that by the release of 311's album that "Hey You" won't really move up after the point.
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Post by weaver on Apr 28, 2009 7:51:42 GMT -5
This song is good, but totally unsurprising. This seems to be a pattern lately- Incubus, 311, and Green Day all have shockinly predictable new songs out. Those are three of my favorite bands, and I still purchased the tracks on iTunes, but I am less than blown away.
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 28, 2009 13:47:34 GMT -5
It's bad enough that ESPN has to play this song during every sportscenter highlight, but every time they play it the stupid SC anchors keep talking about how much they love the song.
"I think we need to replay that highlight reel just so I can hear that song again. By the way, that was the new song from Green Day, it's called 'Know Your Enemy.'"
"Wow, that song rocks. I don't normally talk about our background music but that new Green Day song is awesome."
ESPN payola?
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Post by pen on Apr 28, 2009 14:04:00 GMT -5
Hahahaha. Every time they mention Green Day their stock options go up.
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Post by singingsparrow on Apr 28, 2009 17:25:56 GMT -5
"21st Century Breakdown" isn't going to be nearly as successful as "American Idiot", and I'll explain why I predict this.
At the time "American Idiot" was released, while it is true former President Bush's approval rating was divided down the line so thus still had considerable support, and the opinion of the war was only somewhat less favorable, it was also this soon when the youngest demographics were already heavily disenchanted with both the previous administration and war. More importantly, however, was that Generation Y in particular thought our country was moving in the wrong direction.
Thus, "American Idiot" simply couldn't have been released at a better time. The read was perfect and Green Day also happened to have written the best grouping of songs to date. It was only fitting that Green Day be the musical torchbearers for Generation Y in particular (but also the older Generation X to a large degree) especially considering that they had already began treading political topics on "Warning", most notably in their chart-topping "Minority" which, in a way, the whole of "American Idiot" expands on the sentiments of that song, as though "Minority" was a mustard seed they were grasping.
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Fast forward to 2009. Now, a new president, which was most enthusiastically supported by the younger demographics, especially Generation Y, is in office, and the war and so-called "faith-based issues" have become overshadowed by unprecedented economic turmoil. In spite of that, more Americans now think our nation is heading in the right direction than going in the wrong direction for the first time since 2002, and younger demographics are those most likely to say we are moving in the right direction. A recent Met Life-sponsored survey even found that Generations X and Y are approaching the economic turmoil more optimistically than their parents and grandparents are, and it has been suggested that it could be explained by that, despite not being any less materialistic than their parents and grandparents, they nonetheless value family, friends and relationships more in terms of getting by, as opposed to older generations citing security as something they depend on day to day.
Therefore, "21st Century Breakdown" maintains that sort of angry, at least somewhat cynical attitude that fueled "American Idiot", and yet, in this post-Bush world, younger generations are actually those most optimistic about what's on the horizon. Ergo, this album doesn't nearly as accurately reflect the mood of much of youthful America at this crossroads. Not to mean to make a hasty generalization, but nonetheless most young Americans are looking ahead to brighter prospects (they certainly recognize to some degree that there will be challenges and hurdles, but seem to be headstrong more or less) and where they felt their anger was justified prior to the inauguration this January, they now want to fuse that anger into either constructive, benevolent purpose or want to move ahead, never speak of the previous president again and get on with their lives step by step.
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"21st Century Breakdown" will still go double platinum, I think, but it'll ultimately sell less than half of what "American Idiot" sold domestically, and it won't be just because record stores are in deeper trouble than ever. My bet is their commercial standing will decrease internationally as well, although they're likely to be more successful elsewhere this era than they will be in the United States.
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by pen on Apr 28, 2009 17:31:15 GMT -5
That was well written. Just a couple points I disagree with.
One is that this album doesn't seem to have anything to do with Bush and I think societal issues are still relevant.
Two, personally, I think no anger ignites the fuse to get pumped and change like rebellious anger.
I know every time I listen to something by Project 86, I'm pumped.
Just some thoughts.
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Post by singingsparrow on Apr 28, 2009 17:45:59 GMT -5
That was well written. Just a couple points I disagree with. One is that this album doesn't seem to have anything to do with Bush and I think societal issues are still relevant. Two, personally, I think no anger ignites the fuse to get pumped and change like rebellious anger. I know every time I listen to something by Project 86, I'm pumped. Just some thoughts. From what I've heard thus far, the album is both an indictment of contemporary religion, as well as living and coping in a post-Bush world. Regarding your second point, I don't disagree with it, but I also think (and have certainly observed) that a lot of younger Americans are channeling their anger into manners such as volunteering in their communities. I for one volunteer via Hands On Portland, and just earlier this month they confirmed a 317% spike in volunteering from a year ago, which my bet is largely due to the economy, but I certainly wouldn't rule out interest in changing the world as well. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by pen on Apr 28, 2009 17:55:29 GMT -5
Hm. Volunteering. I've been thinking about that but I haven't the damndest what I'd volunteer for or if it would do me any good.
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Post by Rumors on Apr 28, 2009 20:01:53 GMT -5
Good post, Noah. I agree that AI came out at exactly the right time. I know there is buzz for the new album but it does seem to be watered down this time around. I can even see that in this thread with the comments about the single being good but nothing really new for the band. Will lightening strike twice? My guess is similiar to Noah's.
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Post by Ron57 on Apr 28, 2009 21:38:46 GMT -5
I don't expect it to live up to American Idiot. Kinda like with Underclass Hero and Chuck for me...Sum 41 being my favorite band, when Chuck was released I listened to it over and over and ended up classifying it as "perfect" in my eyes. It's hard to be introduced to completely new material and think that it'll be the same as it was before, except better. People need to realize that it's just an album and whether it's better than their last, their true fans will eat it up nevertheless. It may not be "better", but it should still at least be a quality album.
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Post by pen on Apr 28, 2009 21:55:50 GMT -5
Underclass Hero was the most disappointing thing I have heard from a band in some time.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Apr 28, 2009 22:45:49 GMT -5
My only comment is to say that honestly Green Day is at the point of their career where they don't need to re-invent themselves on every album. They tried different things on other albums and they were successful to a point. To the average music listener, ie) not us, who pick apart all kinds of things, they could put out new, similar sounding music for another 10-15 years and would be highly successful. They are at the AC/DC crossroads to me, if the sound ain't broke, don't bother fixing it.
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