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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Apr 3, 2009 21:53:09 GMT -5
Dude, Jive has got Nick Cannon. That's all the male talent you need right there!
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Post by musicluver on Apr 3, 2009 22:17:35 GMT -5
Dude, Jive has got Nick Cannon. That's all the male talent you need right there! I didn't know he was with Jive. How come I don't see his name on their official roster?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 22:25:10 GMT -5
Ew. Why make another thread for this flop. Couldn't you have just let it died, so we don't have to crazy princess kid barking about Archie being a huge Disney smash, or beyoncefan claming Archie is the second coming of christ. This song is dead! Let's move on!
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 3, 2009 22:35:23 GMT -5
Ew. Why make another thread for this flop. Couldn't you have just let it died, so we don't have to crazy princess kid barking about Archie being a huge Disney smash, or beyoncefan claming Archie is the second coming of christ. This song is dead! Let's move on! Because David is a male pulse diva that needs 2 threads for each one of his singles--regardless of how well they do.
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 3, 2009 22:51:18 GMT -5
:( I just find it so dumb how Jive and RCA are purposely trying to hurt Archie's career just so AI can seem credible. Disney is smashing this to death, and it's doing well at stations playing it. Doesn't anyone find it suspicious how it was #1 on Z100 and the next day they dropped it? I mean they are known as being shady and willing to do anything for money, so we can only assume Cook and his peeps had something to do with it. It's sad because Archie is so talented.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 3, 2009 23:39:12 GMT -5
:( I just find it so dumb how Jive and RCA are purposely trying to hurt Archie's career just so AI can seem credible. Disney is smashing this to death, and it's doing well at stations playing it. Doesn't anyone find it suspicious how it was #1 on Z100 and the next day they dropped it? I mean they are known as being shady and willing to do anything for money, so we can only assume Cook and his peeps had something to do with it. It's sad because Archie is so talented. Yes, it's weird that Z100 dropped it after reaching #1 and it's weird that AOL only removed his live sessions. I have no answer for you but I highly doubt his own label will sabotage their only revenue producing male artist right now.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 3, 2009 23:47:17 GMT -5
:( I just find it so dumb how Jive and RCA are purposely trying to hurt Archie's career just so AI can seem credible. I feel sorry for you if you actually believe Jive, RCA and AI all have a secret plan to try and bring David down for the sake of David Cook ~being the true winner~. I mean really, think it through. And z100 dropping it and his videos on AOL being removed because the contract expired or whatever highly qualifies as "Jive sabotaging him". It sucks that ALTNOY didn't perform well but it wasn't because of weird conspiracy theories or because his label hates him, it just didn't do well. Instead of making up theories that make no sense let's just accept it and move on.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 4, 2009 1:37:48 GMT -5
I wonder if some of these posters even know what "going to #1 on z100" even means. It got to #1 on one of their countdowns but if they actually think it went to #1 on the entire station they're fools. Clearly, the song never went anywhere in total weekly spinnage on that station.
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 4, 2009 3:07:03 GMT -5
I wonder if some of these posters even know what "going to #1 on z100" even means. It got to #1 on one of their countdowns but if they actually think it went to #1 on the entire station they're fools. Clearly, the song never went anywhere in total weekly spinnage on that station. I know he wasn't #1 on the whole station. But he did make #1 on the noon chart, and was never heard from again. Weird eh? And I'm not the only one who believes this. Go on the Archie site, or the idols forums, and many people believe Jive and/or RCA are purposely trying to deter his career. I'm not the only one who believes this. I just find it sad that some AI contestants(I wont say names because I dont want to make this a Cook vs. Archie thing)get better treatment and pimped to no end. Let's hope his next single(either from the album or for his 2nd one) get's fair treatment. Archie deserves success and he's not fake like most artists.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 4, 2009 3:40:47 GMT -5
Labels don't go all out to sabotage their artists' careers. That's counterproductive to their business model -- they want to make money and killing their artists' careers would only make them lose money. If an artist's product isn't doing well, it's much more likely to be that the general buying public (outside of fanbases) just isn't that interested.
Also, different labels shouldn't be spending time and money to make other labels' acts fail when that time and money would be much better spent promoting their own artists, which is exactly what RCA is doing, which by the way behold their success.
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Post by CowboysForever9 on Apr 4, 2009 3:49:15 GMT -5
I just have to say I've been reading a lot on these forums for months and I finally had to join today and voice my opinion because some people need a reality check bad. To whatever post I read that was complaining about certain AI contestants getting better treatement, here's the deal: David Archuleta lost American Idol and David Cook won American Idol. Cook should be the one getting "better treatment" (as it was put) because he WON THE SHOW. That's how it works and if you don't like it, too bad. Nobody's saying Archuleta isn't talented because he's an excellent performer and singer/artist. I just don't see where you've got any right to complain about Cook getting better treatment (and that's exactly what you were referring to in that last post, you're not fooling anyone) than Archuleta when Cook won the show. To put it into perspective, you didn't see the Arizona Cardinals getting a Lombardi trophy because they came within 35 seconds of winning the Super Bowl this year. It's just not the way things work. Last season of AI was the first year I never rooted for anyone in particular and by no means am I a Cook fan, but the conspiracy theory garbage and whining about Cook getting "better treatment" is getting to a point where it's just sad and pathetic. Move on and hope his next single does better. There's also really no use in trying to justify why ALTNOY didn't do as well as some of you hoped it would. I've seen people blame it flopping on a lack of promotion and while some more promo may have helped it out to a certain degree, the reality is that if a song is meant to do well it should do well without promotion. You don't see every artist promote every hit single they have. I understand it's frustrating to see a song not do well (especially if it's one of your favorites) but the bottom line is not everything is going to be a smash hit. You just need to move on and hope for the best with the next single.
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 4, 2009 4:02:26 GMT -5
I have my opinion and you have your's. And I am not alone. Something fishy is going on. Maybe they are not downright trying to sabatoge Archie, but they are really screwing him over. They are not managing him right or doing their job at promoting. I almost wish his record company would use some payola like that other artist who I won't name..
ALTNOY is a great pop song, and every station that gave it a chance got good responses. Shame radio is too stuck up to play Archie, yet they can overplay BEP, Leona, Flo, and others. Luckily for Brit & GaGa & the Queen or radio would totally be unlistenable.
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Post by CowboysForever9 on Apr 4, 2009 4:04:32 GMT -5
Well that last paragraph you wrote tells me all I need to know
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 4, 2009 4:06:55 GMT -5
Well that last paragraph you wrote tells me all I need to know What! Did I stutter? GaGa is the most successful new artist out right now. Breaking records(both her singles went #1 in the US & UK). Brit is the greatest female entertainer ever and the most famous. And the Queen is an icon. I just wish Archie was getting the success they get :(
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Post by CowboysForever9 on Apr 4, 2009 4:07:59 GMT -5
No, I was referring to the Leona bashing and praising of Spears. For me I respect anyone who can sing live and do it well.
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 4, 2009 4:10:36 GMT -5
I wasn't bashing Leona. And being sucessful isn't about having good vocals. Millions of people can sing, but only some can be icons like Brit. Anyways I want to apologize bashing all artists and Cook. I just get heated with Archie, my views are just my views. No more wrong or right then everyone elses, but I will stop "trolling" against Cook. :)
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Post by CowboysForever9 on Apr 4, 2009 4:14:09 GMT -5
It's understandable. I know exactly where you're coming. It sucks when one of your artists puts out a song you think can do reasonably well and it doesn't do nearly as well as you'd like it to. I'll be honest, I'm a big Leona fan and I had good expectations for IWB and I wasn't pleased with the way it ended up doing but you just gotta move on and hope for the best with the next single that's released. It's frustrating, especially when you really like a song.
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Post by kristal on Apr 4, 2009 7:05:40 GMT -5
I hope Jive doesn't waste David's appearance on AI. We all know he could see huge sales if they do this right.
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Post by Rodze on Apr 4, 2009 8:12:15 GMT -5
This thread should be closed.
The single is dead and people are off-topic.
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Post by LittleMissMoonshine on Apr 4, 2009 8:26:50 GMT -5
This thread should be closed. The single is dead and people are off-topic. Yes it's dead. 46 50 DAVID ARCHULETA A Little Too Not Ove... 480 664 -184 2.789 (waiting for davidprincess to explain why it isn't dead at all)
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Post by frank on Apr 4, 2009 8:40:19 GMT -5
DUHH it's still on Radio Disney, which is, like, the biggest, most popular radio station evarrrrr.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 4, 2009 8:53:04 GMT -5
This thread should be closed. The single is dead and people are off-topic. Yes it's dead. 46 50 DAVID ARCHULETA A Little Too Not Ove... 480 664 -184 2.789 (waiting for davidprincess to explain why it isn't dead at all) This song is actually lucky to still be top 50 IMO; looking at the spin loss on Quick Cut before the update went up on AllAccess (being the only place we can see the 41-50 section of the chart without having to rely on UTR) I was sure the loss would've been enough for it to fall out of the chart. It'll definitely be out of the top 50 tomorrow though.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 4, 2009 9:10:17 GMT -5
I just hope the his next single reaches more audicnce then the lame 3.9M that ALTNOY got. Any good song can't do well if not enough people hear it, which is why you need promotion. I don't understand why people are saying a song doesn't need promotion to be a hit. That may be true for an established artist but not for a new artist.
beyoncefan, if Jive were trying to sabotage David, they wouldn't send him to the UK or Asia where he's a hit. It shows that they're investing in him for the long term, afterall, he's still young.
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Post by Young Money on Apr 4, 2009 9:53:43 GMT -5
Has an AI performance been confirmed? I know it has been rumored
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Post by Choco on Apr 4, 2009 12:37:07 GMT -5
DUHH it's still on Radio Disney, which is, like, the biggest, most popular radio station evarrrrr. lol
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Post by davidprincess on Apr 4, 2009 13:01:56 GMT -5
Archies we should be very happy for our David success, Our David without Ai promotion or exposure, has sold almost 700,000 albums, 1.6M with Crush, 120,000 with ALTNOY, and his 2 videos has made the top 1 and top 3 on itunes.. Thank God, our boy doesn't depend on American idol exposure to succeed, he has proven to be a successful singer without their millionarie promotion.. ;) and AlTNOY is not a flop , maybe on mediabase was, but in other markets this song has been a success!!! with the little promotion that had, this song was a fighter and hung around the top 50 for 3 months, it was #1 on z100 but i don't know what happened there, but it's weird that it was dropped from the playlist when it was the most requested song of the day.. ??? but on the positive, on Radio Disney is a smash hit sold out tour, etc. MTV played it a lot, #1 on XM20, #1 in other countdowns too, but it's obvious that this song was boycotted by AOL, Vh1 and other sites, because it's weird that AOL removed David's live videos without reasons..It's weird that Vh1 always supports all the idols but they made an exception this time, they never played ALTNOY by David. >:( .It's such a shame, that those sites and some radio stations that boycotted David, can't handle his success and they are trying to stop his popularity.. :o but they can't stop his popularity 'cause David is loved by many people and we his true fans are going to keep supporting his career..) also, as long as MTV plays AlTNOY i don't care about vh1 anymore. MTV is a leader not a follower and they love our boy and they didn't get influenced by AOL, Vh1 or payola and they play the videos that the people wants to see!! and still they play our David.. ;)(specially MTV3..) and AlTNoY is another top 10 on MTV3, Great Job Archies!!!
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Post by Young Money on Apr 4, 2009 13:12:23 GMT -5
awesome post
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Post by rince25 on Apr 4, 2009 13:23:21 GMT -5
Has an AI performance been confirmed? I know it has been rumored Yea, it's been confirmed by Ryan Seacrest. And Jeff Archuleta. He'll be on sometime in May. Hopefully he won't be singing ALTNOY.
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Post by Young Money on Apr 4, 2009 13:29:57 GMT -5
That would be horrible if he did Hopefully it is the 3rd single or "Zero Gravity"...I highly doubt it will be ZG though, and it probably won't be the 3rd single either.
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Post by tinawina on Apr 4, 2009 13:35:34 GMT -5
OMG, I am laughing so hard. davidprincess.. I mean all respect to you and all... but are you for real? That was so freaking awesome. You have to be some kind of parody of an OTT idol fan or something. That was unreal. LMAO.
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