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Post by LittleMissMoonshine on Apr 4, 2009 13:38:07 GMT -5
You can't buy this kind of entertainment. Priceless.
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Post by Rodze on Apr 4, 2009 13:40:26 GMT -5
You can't buy this kind of entertainment. Priceless. I say I want this locked, but I'm enjoying the joke characters of davidsprincess and beyoncefan4.
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Post by Donnie5 on Apr 4, 2009 13:41:06 GMT -5
Archies we should be very happy for our David success, Our David without Ai promotion or exposure, has sold almost 700,000 albums, 1.6M with Crush, 120,000 with ALTNOY, and his 2 videos has made the top 1 and top 3 on itunes.. Thank God, our boy doesn't depend on American idol exposure to succeed, he has proven to be a successful singer without their millionarie promotion.. ;) and AlTNOY is not a flop , maybe on mediabase was, but in other markets this song has been a success!!! with the little promotion that had, this song was a fighter and hung around the top 50 for 3 months, it was #1 on z100 but i don't know what happened there, but it's weird that it was dropped from the playlist when it was the most requested song of the day.. ??? but on the positive, on Radio Disney is a smash hit sold out tour, etc. MTV played it a lot, #1 on XM20, #1 in other countdowns too, but it's obvious that this song was boycotted by AOL, Vh1 and other sites, because it's weird that AOL removed David's live videos without reasons..It's weird that Vh1 always supports all the idols but they made an exception this time, they never played ALTNOY by David. >:( .It's such a shame, that those sites and some radio stations that boycotted David, can't handle his success and they are trying to stop his popularity.. :o but they can't stop his popularity 'cause David is loved by many people and we his true fans are going to keep supporting his career..) also, as long as MTV plays AlTNOY i don't care about vh1 anymore. MTV is a leader not a follower and they love our boy and they didn't get influenced by AOL, Vh1 or payola and they play the videos that the people wants to see!! and still they play our David.. ;)(specially MTV3..) and AlTNoY is another top 10 on MTV3, Great Job Archies!!! Delusions of grandeur.
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Post by CowboysForever9 on Apr 4, 2009 13:44:09 GMT -5
With all due respect, ALTNOY was a flop and you've gotta be in some serious denial not to see that. Come on now, you could make the case for any song doing well in certain markets.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Apr 4, 2009 13:44:24 GMT -5
You can't buy this kind of entertainment. Priceless. I'm enjoying the joke characters of davidsprincess and beyoncefan4. Me too. You've got conspiracy theories and delusional fan nonsense all in one thread!
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Post by davidprincess on Apr 4, 2009 14:32:32 GMT -5
Thank You!! ;) I see you really like David's music , thanks for your good vibes and positive comments!! ;) ;)
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 4, 2009 14:41:19 GMT -5
Every artist worth anything has those who are... more enthusiastic supporters. So can we just accept those people and move on, please?
And David's career has nothing to do with American Idol anymore. David's promotion has nothing to do with American Idol anymore (save that he gets to be on it once this season). Jive/Azoff doesn't care what RCA/19 does for David Cook. They really don't care how David Cook does. They're two wholly separate artists with wholly separate fan bases and wholly separate careers. In the real music world, they wouldn't be compared at all. David Cook does not deserve anything more than David Archuleta--he'll get more through American Idol-related events and such because he won the show, but that's it. That has nothing to do with David Archuleta's promotion any more than David Cook getting that stuff has to do with Lady Gaga's promotion. Does Cook deserve more of everything in general? No. That's ridiculous--we're in the real world now, not some strange reality show competition. People need to get over the fact that these guys were on American Idol together.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 4, 2009 14:49:31 GMT -5
Ugh, when are they gonna announce TMH? If they don't do it within the next few weeks they need to just close the door on the album and rush out album 2.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 4, 2009 15:11:27 GMT -5
Ugh, when are they gonna announce TMH? If they don't do it within the next few weeks they need to just close the door on the album and rush out album 2. They may be closing the door on this era, actually, which would be fine. Not unheard of, especially for artists that trend younger, to put out new music quicker. And if CHR isn't feeling midtempo pop songs then why put out a midtempo 3rd single? I think Jive's been thinking about putting out album #2 for awhile now, and at least one news report after his Utah show mentioned David would be recording after his UK tour.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 4, 2009 15:45:25 GMT -5
With regard to certain posters, I think it may be easier to just ignore the posts instead of responding. I don't know how much action we'll get as to the next single here in the U.S cuz David Archuleta is currently relaxin' in Singapore. I don't think the boy has had a worry in his life but his fans do a good job of worrying for him
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Post by jaybee on Apr 4, 2009 16:46:41 GMT -5
OMG, I am laughing so hard. davidprincess.. I mean all respect to you and all... but are you for real? That was so freaking awesome. You have to be some kind of parody of an OTT idol fan or something. That was unreal. LMAO. I always thought that was the case...? lol. Anyway, it's amusing.
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Post by FacetheFacts on Apr 4, 2009 17:46:06 GMT -5
;DHEY ARCHIEPRINCESS Yeah Little Archie went on Icarly and all little disney shows but no one wants him! You know why ATNOY flopped because it was a bad song >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Stop bringing DAVID COOOK INTO YOUR PATHETIC RANTS HE IS PLATNIUM WITH ONE SINGLE( THAT DIDN'T EVEN GO TOP 10). ;) ;) ;) ;) LET IT GO and guess what no one cares about stupid radio disney, and Vh1 because in the end -============= David Cook wins He wins on idol, cds, and in life. The sooner you see the better you'll be :) :) :) :) :) :) :) PS all the things you mentioned Cook kills him in so c ya later DO YOU LIKE ALL THE ANNOYING SMILES! i THOUGHT YOU MIGHT.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 4, 2009 18:06:34 GMT -5
;DHEY ARCHIEPRINCESS Yeah Little Archie went on Icarly and all little disney shows but no one wants him! You know why ATNOY flopped because it was a bad song >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Stop bringing DAVID COOOK INTO YOUR PATHETIC RANTS HE IS PLATNIUM WITH ONE SINGLE( THAT DIDN'T EVEN GO TOP 10). ;) ;) ;) ;) LET IT GO and guess what no one cares about stupid radio disney, and Vh1 because in the end -============= David Cook wins He wins on idol, cds, and in life. The sooner you see the better you'll be :) :) :) :) :) :) :) PS all the things you mentioned Cook kills him in so c ya later DO YOU LIKE ALL THE ANNOYING SMILES! i THOUGHT YOU MIGHT. ..and how old are you? Please don't be the next cookprincess. I think you should take your own advice and just LET IT GO. I think it's meaningless to deny the importance of radio disney to a young girl lol
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LittleMissMoonshine
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Post by LittleMissMoonshine on Apr 4, 2009 18:08:44 GMT -5
Oh noes, it's spreading!!!
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 4, 2009 18:18:38 GMT -5
Cook and Archuleta will always be compared to each other, just like Britney and Christina and BSB and NSYNC will always be compared. That's just how it works.
Saying that, users shouldn't go into threads with biased opinions. I'm a huge Cook fan, and I loathe Archie, but ALTNOY and ZG are great songs that deserve(d) success.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 4, 2009 18:36:12 GMT -5
Cook and Archuleta will always be compared to each other, just like Britney and Christina and BSB and NSYNC will always be compared. That's just how it works. Saying that, users shouldn't go into threads with biased opinions. I'm a huge Cook fan, and I loathe Archie, but ALTNOY and ZG are great songs that deserve(d) success. I love your analogies. By label, I'm guessing Archie is the Britney and Cook is the Christina? Haha that gave me a really funny image
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 4, 2009 18:41:29 GMT -5
Cook and Archuleta will always be compared to each other, just like Britney and Christina and BSB and NSYNC will always be compared. That's just how it works. Saying that, users shouldn't go into threads with biased opinions. I'm a huge Cook fan, and I loathe Archie, but ALTNOY and ZG are great songs that deserve(d) success. I love your analogies. By label, I'm guessing Archie is the Britney and Cook is the Christina? Haha that gave me a really funny image Funny imagine indeed. But you did prove my point, in that it would be stupid to compare Britney and Archie because they have nothing in common except a label. The David's, on the other hand, have common ground, in that they are two "idols" competing against each other on the pop charts. I see where the comparisons are coming from.
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LittleMissMoonshine
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Post by LittleMissMoonshine on Apr 4, 2009 19:11:14 GMT -5
Wait. How is being from the same label less ground for comparison than coming from the same reality show? At least the 1st is relevant to the current career, the latter ended almost a year ago.
These comparisons make very little sense, and the people who use them are the AI fans who are used seeing the other as competition from the days of the show. I'm pretty sure a new casual fan would see absolutely no room for comparison between Cook and Archie. Different genres, different labels, different audience.... Different everything.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 4, 2009 19:14:46 GMT -5
At least Britney and Christina are both pop-based females. N'Sync and BSB are both pop-based boy bands. Musically, they have something in common.
Cook is a post-grunge pop-rocker with gruff rock vocals, and Archie is a pop-based male with pop/R&B-tinged vocals. They sound nothing alike and their music is nothing alike. Yes, they're technically competing on the pop charts, but so is Archie and Lady Gaga, yet comparing their careers all the time wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
So musically and career-wise, the two shouldn't be compared. Their fan bases aren't even a whole lot alike. The only thing they ever had in common was that they competed against each other on season 7 of American Idol. So the only reason to compare them is because you're still stuck voting for something that ended almost a year ago. The way people start doesn't define where they end up.
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Post by Baby In a New Dress on Apr 4, 2009 20:49:24 GMT -5
At least Britney and Christina are both pop-based females. N'Sync and BSB are both pop-based boy bands. Musically, they have something in common. Cook is a post-grunge pop-rocker with gruff rock vocals, and Archie is a pop-based male with pop/R&B-tinged vocals. They sound nothing alike and their music is nothing alike. Yes, they're technically competing on the pop charts, but so is Archie and Lady Gaga, yet comparing their careers all the time wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. So musically and career-wise, the two shouldn't be compared. Their fan bases aren't even a whole lot alike. The only thing they ever had in common was that they competed against each other on season 7 of American Idol. So the only reason to compare them is because you're still stuck voting for something that ended almost a year ago. The way people start doesn't define where they end up. No way. It will always matter what the other David is doing. That's just how it works. Someobdy has to "win." Cook's fans are desperate to validate his win. Archie's fans are deperate to prove that he was robbed. The only way it ends is when one of them flops and is dropped from their record label. As long as Archie lingers on blogs and articles, and is getting guest gigs on shows, he hasn't disapeared- therefore Cook's fans don't feel like it's over yet. And until Cook suffers the same fate as he-who-shall-remain-unnamed, then Archie's fans will never be sated. Of course, I'm talking about the hard-core, Aiken type fans. On some Clay boards, they're not allowed to mention Kelly's name- remember when Clay was more popular that Kelly? That pretty much sums it up. Not that this is anything new. People are competitive by nature, and love for their preferences to be validated. Idol is no exception.
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Post by Matt4319 on Apr 4, 2009 21:02:15 GMT -5
LOLOL. Yay, a part 2 thread for a dying song!! Haha. Actually, it's cool--that means David stays as the part 2 thread champ for a pop solo guy, since Crush had a part 2 as well. And my CHR really is upping spins for this song. They love what I love. Damn it... I should have kept the thread open.
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Post by TYRONE™ on Apr 4, 2009 21:04:16 GMT -5
OMG, I am laughing so hard. davidprincess.. I mean all respect to you and all... but are you for real? That was so freaking awesome. You have to be some kind of parody of an OTT idol fan or something. That was unreal. LMAO. I think she's probably like 11 years old or something.... Or maybe she's just trying to be funny...IDK. But she is giving me some laughs, to be honest This song is DONE. Archie's career is probably done too, to be honest. He was just a one hit wonder getting his stretch of fame from AI.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 4, 2009 21:19:17 GMT -5
Wait. How is being from the same label less ground for comparison than coming from the same reality show? At least the 1st is relevant to the current career, the latter ended almost a year ago. These comparisons make very little sense, and the people who use them are the AI fans who are used seeing the other as competition from the days of the show. I'm pretty sure a new casual fan would see absolutely no room for comparison between Cook and Archie. Different genres, different labels, different audience.... Different everything. Because the other examples I mentioned, both acts were competing for the same success in the same era. Same with Davids, and the poster two posts above mine pretty much sums up what I am trying to say here. In something actually related to ALTNOY, this might jump up a few spots this week due to how many recurrents there will be tomorrow afternoon!
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Post by Dammn Baby on Apr 4, 2009 21:49:22 GMT -5
Is the little twink still around, or have they shipped him off to boarding school?
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Post by Rurry on Apr 4, 2009 23:33:08 GMT -5
Ugh, when are they gonna announce TMH? If they don't do it within the next few weeks they need to just close the door on the album and rush out album 2. Even though I think TMH is pretty radio-friendly, I don't think it or anything else on the album (except maybe YEDL which they won't release) has quite enough "pow" to gain back the momentum after ALTNOY'S underperformance...so tbh, I think the smartest move would be to move on the next era since a debut single wouldn't be effected by ALTNOY really, and it kinda looks like that's what they're doing. And seriously, can we at least wait to see how his next album does before we pull the ~omg career is dead~* card? Why are people on this board so impatient? ;DHEY ARCHIEPRINCESS Yeah Little Archie went on Icarly and all little disney shows but no one wants him! You know why ATNOY flopped because it was a bad song >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Stop bringing DAVID COOOK INTO YOUR PATHETIC RANTS HE IS PLATNIUM WITH ONE SINGLE( THAT DIDN'T EVEN GO TOP 10). ;) ;) ;) ;) LET IT GO and guess what no one cares about stupid radio disney, and Vh1 because in the end -============= David Cook wins He wins on idol, cds, and in life. The sooner you see the better you'll be :) :) :) :) :) :) :) PS all the things you mentioned Cook kills him in so c ya later DO YOU LIKE ALL THE ANNOYING SMILES! i THOUGHT YOU MIGHT. Omg Davidprincess has found her match!!! Awww cute.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 4, 2009 23:36:54 GMT -5
'Crush' was a success for him! I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another hit song.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 4, 2009 23:40:56 GMT -5
This thread should be closed. The single is dead and people are off-topic. Yeah, looks like it's just become another opportunity for people to bring up the immature Cook vs. Archuleta BS again. Of course, if this gets closed, all of that will just continue at the Come Back to Me thread so I guess it really doesn't matter :)
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Post by Rurry on Apr 4, 2009 23:41:22 GMT -5
'Crush' was a success for him! I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another hit song. Yeah, I mean if Jesse McCartney was able to get 2 more hits this era...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2009 23:50:30 GMT -5
'Crush' was a success for him! I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another hit song. Yeah, I mean if Jesse McCartney was able to get 2 more hits this era... What is that suppose to mean? >:(
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Post by Rurry on Apr 4, 2009 23:51:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean if Jesse McCartney was able to get 2 more hits this era... What is that suppose to mean? >:( It's nothing personal, but after all of his singles after Beautiful Soul flopped, everyone wrote him off as a one-hit wonder and then he surprised everyone when Leavin' became a huge smash.
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