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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2009 23:59:15 GMT -5
What is that suppose to mean? >:( It's nothing personal, but after all of his singles after Beautiful Soul flopped, everyone wrote him off as a one-hit wonder and then he surprised everyone when Leavin' became a huge smash. U can pass ;)
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 5, 2009 0:19:57 GMT -5
Archie will surprise you all. Even without full backing he was able to almost outsell Taylor Hicks, and has outsold Eliot Yamin, Bucjy, Justin, Kellie(2nd album), Fantasia(2nd album), and will probablly pass Kelly's flop album too!
And good news! It's still smashing on Disney, and still top 50! It's dropping but still holding on. Radio stations that play this, are having great success with it.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 5, 2009 0:23:46 GMT -5
One unsuccessful single doesn't mean somebody's career is dead. If that were the case, 90% of the artists we talk about today would have dead careers. I don't think Jive is as impatient as we seem to be, or as willing to write off their artists. I'd say a gold album, a platinum single, a sold-out tour, good prospects in Asia and the UK, plus an artist that is willing to work super hard and has the ability to really sing, is a reason for a label to work to get them more hits and a bigger audience. He's only been on the music scene for about 8 months. He's got plenty of time. A new album will mean he doesn't need momentum built from a previous single--the momentum will come from the buzz of a new album.
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 5, 2009 0:25:24 GMT -5
Archie has too much potential to fail. Even with limited promotion he can still do great. Next album will even be a bigger hit!
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Post by musicluver on Apr 5, 2009 0:43:58 GMT -5
OMG, I am laughing so hard. davidprincess.. I mean all respect to you and all... but are you for real? That was so freaking awesome. You have to be some kind of parody of an OTT idol fan or something. That was unreal. LMAO. I think she's probably like 11 years old or something.... Or maybe she's just trying to be funny...IDK. But she is giving me some laughs, to be honest This song is DONE. Archie's career is probably done too, to be honest. He was just a one hit wonder getting his stretch of fame from AI. LOL David is an 18 yr old on the hottest record label. His 2nd single only flopped b/c it only reached a puny audience of 3.9M. That's something more promotion can fix. If his career were over now, he probably should extend his international stay and not come back to the states
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Post by street on Apr 5, 2009 7:13:15 GMT -5
Pt 2 OMG
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Post by Rodze on Apr 5, 2009 7:36:21 GMT -5
This thread should be closed. The single is dead and people are off-topic. Yeah, looks like it's just become another opportunity for people to bring up the immature Cook vs. Archuleta BS again. Of course, if this gets closed, all of that will just continue at the Come Back to Me thread so I guess it really doesn't matter :) And that's bad because...?
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Post by FacetheFacts on Apr 5, 2009 10:06:10 GMT -5
It is so aggravating hearing David A id better David Cook . I personally think David C. has more chops then Archie. He is still a formidable artist , but that doesn't mean everything he does should be a ''smash''. So there is no need to bash him every 24 because David Cook went on Ai.
I was only sticking up for David because - someone should. I mean can we both stop the rants because frankly neither of them are even big artists. I bought David Cook's cd and all, but come on its not Nirvina. I doesn't think Archie is the next James Taylor.
So sorry if my expressed feeling that were frowned upon or made fun of. But to be fair when someone makes fun of one of your favorites artists, you bring out the claws. I seen a lot of people in these threads get really angry to, and I believe if a post was absoulety deficient , it must corrected.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 5, 2009 10:13:51 GMT -5
It is so aggravating hearing David A id better David Cook . I personally think David C. has more chops then Archie. He is still a formidable artist , but that doesn't mean everything he does should be a ''smash''. So there is no need to bash him every 24 because David Cook went on Ai. I was only sticking up for David because - someone should. I mean can we both stop the rants because frankly neither of them are even big artists. I bought David Cook's cd and all, but come on its not Nirvina. I doesn't think Archie is the next James Taylor. So sorry if my expressed feeling that were frowned upon or made fun of. But to be fair when someone makes fun of one of your favorites artists, you bring out the claws. I seen a lot of people in these threads get really angry to, and I believe if a post was absoulety deficient , it must corrected. No one is saying that Archie is better than Cook. If they do, it's prob their own personal opinion just like how you just said that you think Cook is better than Archie. But that's just you. They're both so diff so there's no pt saying who's better. Most ppl are just frustrated at the difference in promotion esp with ALTNOY.
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Post by Baby In a New Dress on Apr 5, 2009 10:24:57 GMT -5
^ Really, it's no biggie. I, personally think comparing the Davids is fun! It's like "OMG, don't talk about Cook in the ALTNOY Thread." It's funny seeing people get so riled up about this. The Davids will forever be compared. Live it, learn it, love it.
And to think that not so long ago, people so enthusiastically compared Crush to LO. But that was then and this is now, huh? :)
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Post by tinawina on Apr 5, 2009 10:27:41 GMT -5
I mean can we both stop the rants because frankly neither of them are even big artists. I bought David Cook's cd and all, but come on its not Nirvina. I doesn't think Archie is the next James Taylor. LMAO. I think both fanbases should frame this and hang it where they get reminded 20 times a day. Both are very talented and have great potential for a lasting career, but at this point both are still trying to establish themselves. Neither has recorded to their top potential yet. Neither has become a big "name". And honestly, we won't know what's going to happen on that front for YEARS. 3 albums in, and we'll have a much better idea of how their careers will end up. But by then the whole dueling fanbases thing will be even funnier than it is now. It will just be downright pathetic. Back OT - if Jive is indeed planning for the next album at this point, when would we get news? I agree the longer time goes without a new pop adds date the more it looks like they are moving on - perhaps rushing out the next album. On one hand it makes sense if they are marketing him as a male pop hitmaker, but kinda wanted him to be able to take more time with this one. He has one of the best voices out and he could really work some solid quality pop songs. The more they rush things the more likely we'll get another quickie album. Archie can do more than that. Plus he has some songwriting potential... I'd like to see him get a chance to develop that a little more.
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Post by kristal on Apr 5, 2009 10:53:54 GMT -5
I don't know when we would get news. The only news that I have heard is from a reporter from SLC who said that David was recording an album when he got back from the UK. I do agree that it looks like they are moving on. I would much rather they re-released the album with a few new songs then rushed a new album out. Fans would of course buy the re-release and they could release a new song that was uptempo and catchy to radio. I too would like David to have more time to work on a second album. I would much rather he released albums like Christina and Justin than like Rihanna.
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Post by LittleMissMoonshine on Apr 5, 2009 11:00:49 GMT -5
Well, I think the AI appearance will probably be very telling. I can't imagine they'd have him do Crush or ALTNOY at this point, the only question is what is he going to do instead? Is an AI appearance important enough to tailor a single release around it? Jive can either release a 3rd single from this album, relying mostly on the AI performance and see if it sticks on the radio, or they could release a new song from the next album, but it'd be a real rush job choosing and releasing a single before the work on the album starts, and I'm not sure how the timing works, releasing a single in May for an album coming out in the fall.
Or maybe they'd opt to try and push Crush towards double Platinum, who knows.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 5, 2009 11:22:12 GMT -5
I'm thinking they may let him sing something from his current album for AI and then push the new single from his new album in the summer.
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Post by kristal on Apr 5, 2009 11:54:30 GMT -5
If they really plan on releasing a new album late summer/early fall then performing the single for that album would be the best option. I just hope Jive has something planned and takes advantage of him performing on AI.
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Post by Young Money on Apr 5, 2009 12:02:05 GMT -5
I highly doubt their will be a new album this year...but I would not mind it. :)
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Post by Rurry on Apr 5, 2009 12:10:17 GMT -5
It is so aggravating hearing David A id better David Cook . I personally think David C. has more chops then Archie. He is still a formidable artist , but that doesn't mean everything he does should be a ''smash''. So there is no need to bash him every 24 because David Cook went on Ai. I was only sticking up for David because - someone should. I mean can we both stop the rants because frankly neither of them are even big artists. I bought David Cook's cd and all, but come on its not Nirvina. I doesn't think Archie is the next James Taylor. So sorry if my expressed feeling that were frowned upon or made fun of. But to be fair when someone makes fun of one of your favorites artists, you bring out the claws. I seen a lot of people in these threads get really angry to, and I believe if a post was absoulety deficient , it must corrected. Tbh, I think you (and a lot of other people as well) just need to learn to stop getting so defensive of Cook....every time someone says something negative about Cook you don't need to run to the thread to defend them. People have different opinions and you don't need to get offended and start fights everytime someone says they like Archie better than Cook. And this isn't directed at you, it's for everyone really...if someone makes a negative comment about Cook it's better to just suck it up and move on (or Archie for Archie fans) then start a war over it.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 5, 2009 12:11:40 GMT -5
Well, I think the AI appearance will probably be very telling. I can't imagine they'd have him do Crush or ALTNOY at this point, the only question is what is he going to do instead? Is an AI appearance important enough to tailor a single release around it? Jive can either release a 3rd single from this album, relying mostly on the AI performance and see if it sticks on the radio, or they could release a new song from the next album, but it'd be a real rush job choosing and releasing a single before the work on the album starts, and I'm not sure how the timing works, releasing a single in May for an album coming out in the fall. Or maybe they'd opt to try and push Crush towards double Platinum, who knows. Imo yes, an AI performance is big enough to schedule a single release around. I really hope they don't waste the AI appearance on a song they don't even plan on releasing as a single (or worse - Crush or ALTNOY).
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Post by 0202 on Apr 5, 2009 12:12:20 GMT -5
why does this flop song even have a 2nd part? I Guess fans are dedicated...
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Post by Rurry on Apr 5, 2009 12:14:48 GMT -5
why does this flop song even have a 2nd part? I Guess fans are dedicated... Haha, well actually a fan didn't even start this thread lol.
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Post by davidprincess on Apr 5, 2009 13:00:42 GMT -5
I really don't pay attention to the negative people, they are just jealous of Archie because he has nice fans and because he doesn't need the idol promotion to sell his music, and his tour was sold out, , and without so much radio airplay, he has sold better than Lady gaga and Jesse. (that shows that mediabase airplay is not the most important anymore..)'cause If you manage to be successful in other markets like Radio Disney, Youtube, xm20 etc you can be successful too, and Archie has proved it!!! and Archie and Cook are different artists, we should compare David with pop artists not with Rock artists...Compare Cook with Daughtry and Archie's sales with Jesse or Lady gaga... Ex: Archuleta album sales to date... :) (673,000) Jesse M.. (250,000) Lady Gaga with 2 smash hits on the radio (550,000) I think the numbers speak for themselves!!! ;)
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Post by tarin11 on Apr 5, 2009 13:16:06 GMT -5
Is an AI appearance important enough to tailor a single release around it? RCA obviously thought it was since they revolved Cook's single/video release around an AI appearance so why shouldn't Jive try that approach? IMO it would be smart. ETA: and no I'm not trying to compare the two but rather simply point out an AI appearance does have a large enough audience for any label to consider it a good launching pad for a new single.
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Post by FacetheFacts on Apr 5, 2009 13:42:23 GMT -5
well comparing Cook to Daughtry is not the same David is platnium which is awesome and Little Daivd is Gold which is great for a runner up Lady Gaga has had two number ones so I guess they are not comparable and Jessie came back after a huge flop so all these people you mentioned are going swell..
Princess you should be happy that People like Little David and not get the Talyor Hicks Treatment
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Post by rince25 on Apr 5, 2009 15:12:51 GMT -5
It is so aggravating hearing David A id better David Cook . I personally think David C. has more chops then Archie. He is still a formidable artist , but that doesn't mean everything he does should be a ''smash''. So there is no need to bash him every 24 because David Cook went on Ai. I was only sticking up for David because - someone should. I mean can we both stop the rants because frankly neither of them are even big artists. I bought David Cook's cd and all, but come on its not Nirvina. I doesn't think Archie is the next James Taylor. So sorry if my expressed feeling that were frowned upon or made fun of. But to be fair when someone makes fun of one of your favorites artists, you bring out the claws. I seen a lot of people in these threads get really angry to, and I believe if a post was absoulety deficient , it must corrected. you're doing exactly what you said aggravates you. if you don't like what's being said in archies thread, ignore it and go to cooks. and i doesn't think archie is next james taylor either. thank god.
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Post by street on Apr 5, 2009 15:17:35 GMT -5
They only give the Hicks treatment to the obvious flops. The ones who'll never get radio play. David is doing very well for Jive so he should get decent treatment. It's not like they have a male artist doing better for them right now.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 5, 2009 15:24:33 GMT -5
They only give the Hicks treatment to the obvious flops. The ones who'll never get radio play. David is doing very well for Jive so he should get decent treatment. It's not like they have a male artist doing better for them right now. I agree. There's only Justin and CB and Justin doesn't plan on making an album anytime soon. They're kinda stuck with Archie lol. I hope they don't work the boy to death though if the rumors of 2 albums by the end of the yr are true.
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Post by FacetheFacts on Apr 5, 2009 16:45:29 GMT -5
God your bitter I'm trying to get a balance in both threads that one day neither David will be mentioned in them James Taylor is a legend!
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Post by musicluver on Apr 5, 2009 16:50:30 GMT -5
God your bitter I'm trying to get a balance in both threads that one day neither David will be mentioned in them James Taylor is a legend! Never gonna happen. I find it funny how you're always breaking your own advice lol
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Post by LittleMissMoonshine on Apr 5, 2009 17:05:01 GMT -5
Has ALTNOY been purged? I'm not seeing it on the 51-100 list. ???
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 5, 2009 17:06:40 GMT -5
Has ALTNOY been purged? I'm not seeing it on the 51-100 list. ??? That's because it's still Top 50. :) Actually, I think it went Top 50 again because of recurrents, but allaccess won't let me log in to see this afternoon's update. ??? It did. #50 this week. :)
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