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Post by johnm1120 on Jun 3, 2009 13:08:08 GMT -5
Hitsdailydouble:
Rumor Mill:
RADIO & RECORDS OVER? Internet reports claim that long-standing trade publication Radio & Records will pull the plug on its operations and cease its website, with 40 people being laid off. More news to come on this. (6/3p)
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Post by Timmy on Jun 3, 2009 13:29:39 GMT -5
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Post by johnm1120 on Jun 3, 2009 13:49:55 GMT -5
This is definitely very saddening. I've been following R&R for well more than a decade, this is truly a hard hit.
Also for this board as well as Pulse originated after the R&R boards shut down in 2003 and some of its original members are still around here today.
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Post by cartman2002 on Jun 3, 2009 13:56:11 GMT -5
This is definite shock and surprise for me, I wondering with R&R defunct, will Billboard post the total number plays for its airplay chart like Adult Top 40 and Mainstream Pop
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 3, 2009 14:37:16 GMT -5
^Probably not.
Billboard has such a monopoly.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 3, 2009 15:27:56 GMT -5
Arghhh this bites...wonderin if anyone knows if there's another website which posts station playlists (by spin rotation)
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Post by Slinky on Jun 3, 2009 15:33:32 GMT -5
Arghhh this bites...wonderin if anyone knows if there's another website which posts station playlists (by spin rotation) All Access
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Post by johnm1120 on Jun 3, 2009 15:36:36 GMT -5
I'm trying to get the rest of the charts, but the site's not loading right now. Hope they didn't take it down already :(
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Post by Slinky on Jun 3, 2009 15:41:05 GMT -5
This is definitely sad news, especially considering that R&R is more or less the reason this board even exists in the first place. R&R just never found a niche in the digital age. All Access always beats them to breaking news, and has a lot more features. The boards they created gained a following quickly but they inexplicably shut them down instead of trying to turn them into a revenue stream.
I think R&R's website was handcuffed by the fact that they still had a print edition. They were afraid that if the website gave away too much information, no one would buy the print edition. Once Billboard's parent company bought them out, the end was a foregone conclusion. There was no real reason for Nielsen to keep open a site and magazine that serves the same purpose as their bigger site and magazine, Billboard.
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Post by Cody on Jun 3, 2009 15:49:28 GMT -5
Ill never get to see a full Billboard Modern Rock chart again now :(
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Post by musicfanpete on Jun 3, 2009 15:50:30 GMT -5
This is definite shock and surprise for me, I wondering with R&R defunct, will Billboard post the total number plays for its airplay chart like Adult Top 40 and Mainstream Pop I am shocked too! I guess the bad economy claims another victim. As for charts like the Adult Top 40 chart, I hope they post the whole chart and not just the top 20 like they usually do. Otherwise you have to go to their Billboard.biz website and shell out $20 a month to access their chart archives.
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Post by musicfanpete on Jun 3, 2009 16:05:59 GMT -5
I'm trying to get the rest of the charts, but the site's not loading right now. Hope they didn't take it down already :( It looks like they didn't wait until the 5th. It looks like it's gone already. :(
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Post by Mega248 on Jun 3, 2009 16:39:03 GMT -5
I've honestly paid minimal attention to R&R's charts ever since the buyout 3 years back, but this is very sad nonetheless. They're the ones that first got me into charts way back when. When was this announced anyway? This is the first I've heard of this, but you'd think they would have said something prior to the day that they vanished. For example, I remember Gavin announcing that they were ceasing operations a couple weeks before actually doing so.
I guess those of us who helped with that chart book in 2002 never will get our copies. :(
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Post by Hervard on Jun 3, 2009 16:43:43 GMT -5
I guess those of us who helped with that chart book in 2002 never will get our copies. :( The chart book was never printed, and, even if R&R had not been shut down, the book would never have come out.
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Post by Mega248 on Jun 3, 2009 16:52:46 GMT -5
I guess those of us who helped with that chart book in 2002 never will get our copies. :( The chart book was never printed, and, even if R&R had not been shut down, the book would never have come out. Oh I know. But as long as R&R continued to exist, there was still that 0.1% chance that some day it would have been printed. ;)
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Post by mst3k on Jun 3, 2009 17:04:53 GMT -5
I guess those of us who helped with that chart book in 2002 never will get our copies. :( The chart book was never printed, and, even if R&R had not been shut down, the book would never have come out. What'chu talkin' 'bout, woman? I got my copy.
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Post by Hervard on Jun 3, 2009 17:07:30 GMT -5
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Post by Hervard on Jun 3, 2009 17:08:35 GMT -5
The chart book was never printed, and, even if R&R had not been shut down, the book would never have come out. What'chu talkin' 'bout, woman? I got my copy. You're kidding, right? (The 30th Anniversary special doesn't count, as we did not help on that at all)
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Post by mst3k on Jun 3, 2009 17:16:20 GMT -5
Yes, I'm kidding. :)
I'm honestly surprised R&R lasted as long as it did after BPI bought it. There was really no reason to have two separate publications/websites getting their chart information from the exact same source (Nielsen BDS).
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 3, 2009 17:19:50 GMT -5
:( This makes me sad. :(
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Post by Edf85 on Jun 3, 2009 18:15:26 GMT -5
Lol @ the chart book. I forgot about that. I cant believe they actually sent us all that chart info and we put it in Excel. Did we even get anything for it? I dont remember. :/
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Post by Mega248 on Jun 3, 2009 18:30:59 GMT -5
Did anyone ever hear why exactly it was never published? I don't even think Ron knew what was going on with the book when he left R&R.
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Jun 3, 2009 18:40:30 GMT -5
I still have the materials they sent me, but I never received anything either. I agree that Ron didn't even know about the book.
It's a sad day that the name is going, but I've always considered the "new" R&R to just be the renamed Top 40 Radio Monitor publication. In my mind, R&R went away 3 years ago.
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Post by Pipa on Jun 3, 2009 18:52:57 GMT -5
Now I'll never get to see what's going for adds in Canada again. :(
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Post by somelikeitwhen on Jun 3, 2009 19:06:51 GMT -5
To be honest, I kind of stopped caring about R&R after the BDS changeover, but it's still kinda sad to see it end, because now I can't look at station playlists anymore.
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Post by djfallingupg on Jun 3, 2009 19:09:24 GMT -5
Does anybody know if there's another site with Christian Rock radio airplay charts..... If not, then this is a very sad day for me. I love those charts, I look at them every day :'( :'( :'(
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Post by Cerebro on Jun 3, 2009 19:10:28 GMT -5
I was checking All Access during my lunch break, saw the top story, and did a double-take. R&R, literally, disappeared at the drop of a hat. :(
I learned of R&R back in 1992 when I first discovered Casey Kasem's and Rick Dees', respective, countdown shows. It's been the source of the "official" pop chart for me ever since. It's sad to see it go. I'd love for Billboard to change it's site and give us the kind of in depth chart coverage we got from R&R, but we all know that'll never happen.
Appreciate All Access, folks. It's all we've got left, now.
R.I.P R&R
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Post by S4C on Jun 3, 2009 19:37:31 GMT -5
Does anybody know if there's another site with Christian Rock radio airplay charts..... If not, then this is a very sad day for me. I love those charts, I look at them every day :'( :'( :'( I know! This TOTALLY screws up my whole agenda... :( :'( I don't know what I'll do without Christian charts. The Billboard one DOES NOT cut it for me. Plus, I used all of the charts to keep up with mainstream music... Guess my music collection of non-Country/Christian will begin to dwindle. :( The extremely sad reality is that this messes with my life soooo much. :'(
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 3, 2009 19:50:54 GMT -5
Still can't believe they completely shut down like that...esp. since the economy could turn around in the next year - wonderin why they just didn't cut down costs - feel really bad though for people laid off
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Post by jdelachjr2002 on Jun 3, 2009 19:56:15 GMT -5
Can anybody please mail me these charts? I'm most interested in the Top 40, AC, and Hot AC charts.
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