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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2004 13:53:29 GMT -5
Though it's struggling at Country, this got second most added at AC this week with 18 adds. I hope atleast one format will give this song the success it deserves.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 7, 2004 14:21:02 GMT -5
C100 in Halifax is playing it although they haven't played a Shania single since 'Up!' and 'I'm Gonna Getcha Good!' (and boy did they play those two out!)
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Post by Hervard on Apr 7, 2004 15:14:58 GMT -5
Though it's struggling at Country, this got second most added at AC this week with 18 adds. I hope atleast one format will give this song the success it deserves. And let's hope this takes away airplay from that damn overplayed "Forever And For Always"!
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Post by j on Apr 7, 2004 18:11:14 GMT -5
I'm actually hoping for the exact opposite. I hope the song does really well on Country and not so well on AC so "Forever And For Always" can be the Numero Uno of 2004.
I wouldn't call it "struggling" on Country either. If I'm not mistaken, since its release, only Lonestar and Gretchen Wilson has leaped over it (and soon, Toby Keith).
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Post by smack on Jun 7, 2004 15:52:24 GMT -5
I'm guessing this song is almost done. It hasn't picked up at any other AC/top 40 format/ and seems to have stalled at AC, peaking at about 12 or 13 or so. I'm not a big fan of it anyways, even though I love shania. Mike
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Post by roadrunner on Jun 8, 2004 7:28:33 GMT -5
I don't know which song came first, but it's a little too close to Melissa Ethridge's "Breathe" - Melissa's lyrics go, "It only hurts when I breathe".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2004 14:34:48 GMT -5
I don't know which song came first, but it's a little too close to Melissa Ethridge's "Breathe" - Melissa's lyrics go, "It only hurts when I breathe". Shania's came out over a year earlier but Melissa's was a cover of a song that was released before Shania's album came out.
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Post by bambas on Jun 13, 2004 22:30:56 GMT -5
Shania's came out over a year earlier but Melissa's was a cover of a song that was released before Shania's album came out. The song called "Breathe" and was released by Greenwheel as a single in summer 2002. Shania's album was released in november 2002. There is no connection whatever between them, when that song came out Shania started the promotion of UP!.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2004 5:09:45 GMT -5
In my opinion it's a real shame that "It Only Hurts When I'm Breathing" wasn't a hit on at least the AC charts. I think it's a great song and deserved much much better than what it got.
It should have at least gotten in the top 10 on the country charts and, imo, was an obvious # 1 on the AC charts.
I find it odd that "It Only Hurts When I'm Breathing" was doing so great on the AC charts and then it just stopped. It was gaining 200+ spins for a while and I think actually gained 300+ at one time. Then it just...stopped. That is very strange.
The lack of an original video surely can not cause that much of a STOP in airplay.
I don't know. I just have this feeling that there are some big problems between Shania Twain and her Mercury Nashville label. I've been thinking for a while now that she will release 1 more album under Mercury and then leave. Maybe the upcoming "Greatest Hits" release is her final album for them.
I hope it is. They did a pretty lousy job handling "Up!" and the singles that were released off of it IMO.
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Post by drock89 on Jun 20, 2004 13:49:49 GMT -5
You just hit the nail on the head in that post. When IOHWIB was released, Mercury announced it as "By Popular Demand" when NOBODY was talking about it. I guarantee you that Shania was not behind the single (no promotion by her, did you notice?).
About the handeling of UP!..yes Mercury did a HORRIBLE job in the choosing of singles. But, right before the album was released, Shania switched management (to Q-Prime) and they were not able to "get on board" with the album. Shania did have some great media promotion to start and half way through the album's life but..
Shania also only has ONE MORE ALBUM on her contract to Mercury. Whether it has to be a studio album or not, I do not know. Seems a Greatest Hits would be a great way to get out now wouldn't it?
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Post by Mega248 on Jun 20, 2004 20:21:41 GMT -5
I find it odd that "It Only Hurts When I'm Breathing" was doing so great on the AC charts and then it just stopped. It was gaining 200+ spins for a while and I think actually gained 300+ at one time. Then it just...stopped. That is very strange. That's what usually happens to artists who have another song still getting a great deal of airplay. Songs like "Come With Me" by Phil Collins, "One" by Faith Hill and "Alive" by Celine Dion did the same sort of thing: they started off with huge gains, but came to a sudden halt as they neared the top 10.
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Post by jmason on Jun 21, 2004 15:38:41 GMT -5
I was hopeing Forever And For Always could have stayed on the charts longer then Drift Away but IOHWIB killed that idea.
If they would have put it out a weeks later like 10 weeks later it would have made top 5.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2004 4:22:25 GMT -5
Shania also only has ONE MORE ALBUM on her contract to Mercury. Whether it has to be a studio album or not, I do not know. Seems a Greatest Hits would be a great way to get out now wouldn't it? I hope you are right. Shania needs to get away from Mercury. Mercury is wasting all of the promotion money on Julie Roberts and Terri Clark. Neither one of them are selling very good. Julie's sales single took off but her album is dropping fast and Terri's last album did poorly in the U.S. and Canada. Mercury has a Multiple Platinum artist sitting on their label and they do not even spend money on a Congratulations ad when her album debuts with 874,000 copies sold, which is the highest debut ever for a Country Female artist. They do nothing again when "Up!" gets certified Diamond, which makes her the only artist in Music History to have 3 back-to-back-to-back Diamond albums. They just give her the Triple Diamond award plaque on the Red Carpet of the CMT Flameworthy awards. They didn't even present it to her at special ceremony or even on an actual awards show. Luke Lewis, the head of Mercury Nashville, just handed her the plaque during the CMT Flameworthy red carpet show. Mercury again does nothing when she picks up several trophies at the Billboard Awards. Other artists on other labels, including many country artists, get congratulations ads when their album goes Platinum or they get an ACM or CMA nomination or award. Shania gets nothing. No promotion. Period. Any promotion for "Up!" was done by Shania. The tv interviews & appearances, the radio interviews & appearances, and everything. Shania just needs to leave Mercury. Hopefully her "Greatest Hits" album will be the last album on that label.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2004 4:49:52 GMT -5
You just hit the nail on the head in that post. When IOHWIB was released, Mercury announced it as "By Popular Demand" when NOBODY was talking about it. I guarantee you that Shania was not behind the single (no promotion by her, did you notice?). About the handeling of UP!..yes Mercury did a HORRIBLE job in the choosing of singles. But, right before the album was released, Shania switched management (to Q-Prime) and they were not able to "get on board" with the album. Shania did have some great media promotion to start and half way through the album's life but.. I agree with you here, with the exception of the part about Shania's management. I personally feel that Shania's management is partially responsible but I feel that Mercury holds most of the blame. Mercury messed up many many many many times. Before "Up!" was released, Mercury posted incorrect information about Shania's album on their official site. Then it was removed without any word. When fans asked Mercury about it on their official message board, Mercury gave their standard "information is coming soon" line. After "Up!" was released things gradually got worse and worse. It took forever for new singles to be sent out once the current ones had run their course on the charts. Then, once the singles were sent out, more problems began. Incorrect versions of singles were shipped out. AC stations reported getting the Country versions and vice versa. Some stations, both AC and Country, reported not getting Shania's singles on time. Many were late getting there past their official release date. I have friends who are Shania fans who have called both AC and Country stations to request Shania's songs weeks after the official release date only to be told that: "Mercury hasn't sent it to us yet. We'll play it as soon as we get it." If Mercury can't even get the correct singles sent out on time for their biggest star/money maker, what does that say about them? The promotion for Shania's album and push for the singles has also been lacking. Other country artists get ads in Billboard and other magazines when their albums go Platinum or when they get ACM or CMA nominations. Not Shania. Mercury has done nothing like that for Shania. Shania has the highest debut for a female country artist. No ad. Shania sells nearly 3 million copies of her new album in just a few weeks. No ad. Shania takes home 3 or 4 major Billboard awards. No ad. Shania becomes the only artist in music history to have 3 back-to-back-to-back Diamond albums. No congratulations ad. To add insult to injury, the Triple Diamond plaque is presented on the Red Carpet at the CMT Flameworthy awards. How prestigious. Maybe when "Come On Over" is certified for 20 million, which would give Shania her Fourth Diamond award, Mercury will just mail Shania the trophy and the plaque and save themselves time and money. Afterall they have better things to spend their time and money on. They have to promote a veteran artist who can't sell very well {Terri Clark}, a new artist with tons of promotion whose album is still dropping like a rock {Julie Roberts} and an unproven new artist {Billy Currington}. Yeah. It's so much better spending money on artists who can't sell cds rather than spending at least some of that money on the 1 artist you have that does sell BIG numbers. I will never understand Mercury, or their...logic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2004 5:00:54 GMT -5
I was hopeing Forever And For Always could have stayed on the charts longer then Drift Away but IOHWIB killed that idea. If they would have put it out a weeks later like 10 weeks later it would have made top 5. :'( I can't stand "Drift Away." I guess I could understand how other people could like it though. I just do not think it was that good of a song to get the kind of constant airplay it got.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2004 5:58:48 GMT -5
That's what usually happens to artists who have another song still getting a great deal of airplay. Songs like "Come With Me" by Phil Collins, "One" by Faith Hill and "Alive" by Celine Dion did the same sort of thing: they started off with huge gains, but came to a sudden halt as they neared the top 10. I guess that would help explain it but I still think it's strange. Plus the same thing happened on the Country charts. It like "It Only Hurts When I'm Breathing" was just DROPPED as a single. Almost like Mercury pulled it. I don't know. I am just getting sick of waiting to see if there is another single and when it will come out. That has been another major problem throughout up: Way too much time in between singles. Shania goes for many weeks without a single on the charts. Other artists have new singles already on the charts when their current one slides off the charts. That sure has not been the case with the way Mercury has handled the singles off of "Up!" With "It Only Hurts When I'm Breathing" they released it too early and it apparently hurt "Forever and For Always." Can't they get anything right with "Up!"?
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Post by MusicRules on Jun 30, 2004 9:04:22 GMT -5
A few ramblings--
I agree that the singles pulled off Up! were dismal. Some of her best work ever will go unnoticed (I'm Jealous, IOHWIB, Nah, I Ain't Goin Down).
I still wonder about singles selection: did Mercury do market research? If they picked a new single, would they run it by Shania?
I can imagine Shania turning the album over to Mercury at release time and saying "I love all the songs on this album, so I don't care which ones you release--they're all good".
How might all this affect Shania and Mutt's friendship with Luke?
I wish Shania would write an album full of songs that dripped with grit and realism.
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Post by Hervard on Jun 30, 2004 10:21:20 GMT -5
That's what usually happens to artists who have another song still getting a great deal of airplay. Songs like "Come With Me" by Phil Collins, "One" by Faith Hill and "Alive" by Celine Dion did the same sort of thing: they started off with huge gains, but came to a sudden halt as they neared the top 10. Yeah, I remember the very same thing happened with another Phil Collins' song. "Strangers Like Me" was released much too soon after his biggest AC hit "You'll Be In My Heart" and, as a result, had a very quick chart run and had dropped out long before YBIMH had fallen out of the survey. Its chart run may have been impeded by "Forever And For Always", but it looks like the latter won't be the Top song of 2004, as it's fallen off the chart. Though it will surely receive much recurrent airplay, Josh Groban, Sheryl Crow and Train are all ahead of Shania and are gaining much more plays. Of course, the Mediabase YTD chart does not figure in airplay from December of the previous year like R&R does, but still.
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