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Post by grey on Nov 26, 2009 22:02:36 GMT -5
Why are people acting like they cancelled for the kiss? ABC was the first network to show two men kissing without a warning (according to my textboox for Humanities) and they didn't edit it out of the performance, so WTF is everyone talking about? I think they took issue with the face to crotch-finger the girl vulgarity of the performance. Quit trying to make him into a martyr for kissing a dude during his performance, that isn't anything groundbreaking.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Nov 26, 2009 22:23:08 GMT -5
^ a week later and you are are still talking about it ... :)
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Nov 26, 2009 22:45:29 GMT -5
^^ Well, Chris Brown did a lot of crap, but none of it on live TV. LOL way to miss the point. It's about the network endorsing an act of violence while punishing a kiss. Unless GMA has Chris Brown beating on a woman on live TV, I don't see how they're endorsing violence. News programs interview icky people all the time, after they have committed the icky acts. They don't actually have people on live TV committing the icky acts, though. And it's not over a stupid kiss. Gah. They didn't even censor the kiss. ^ a week later and you are are still talking about it ... :) Uh, well Adam fans keep bringing it up too... and about how it was about a kiss. When it clearly wasn't. Go watch Brothers and Sisters on ABC (is that show still on?) and you'll see tons of boy-boy kissing.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Nov 26, 2009 23:41:02 GMT -5
^ a week later and you are are still talking about it ... :) Uh, well Adam fans keep bringing it up too... and about how it was about a kiss. When it clearly wasn't. Go watch Brothers and Sisters on ABC (is that show still on?) and you'll see tons of boy-boy kissing. i think those who are bringing it up are those who don't like him, not his fans. if it was up to fans, they would not even bother anymore. but when somebody comes in and calls the guy "SICK" and "disgusting" of course his fans will defend him. these long arguments are usually based on the "h@ters" not the fans :) im on this board for 6 years now ... trust me, i know lol
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Post by desertfloods on Nov 27, 2009 3:53:35 GMT -5
Why are people acting like they cancelled for the kiss? ABC was the first network to show two men kissing without a warning (according to my textboox for Humanities) and they didn't edit it out of the performance, so WTF is everyone talking about? I think they took issue with the face to crotch-finger the girl vulgarity of the performance. Quit trying to make him into a martyr for kissing a dude during his performance, that isn't anything groundbreaking. Because that's how Adam and RCA are spinning the story, hence most people just followed.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Nov 27, 2009 5:06:19 GMT -5
Shocking to come into an Adam Lambert thread after an exhilarating and pretty much pitch-perfect performance on the Today show to still read about something that happened last weekend, LOL. Adam continues to prove that vocally, he is one of the best that EVER did it. Period. I really hope Whataya Want From Me does well for him. He deserves to have people focus on his talent again.
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Post by f*ckyou on Nov 27, 2009 5:12:10 GMT -5
Adam continues to prove that vocally, he is one of the best that EVER did it. Period. are u serious? ??? I hope ur not serious
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Post by eustacia on Nov 27, 2009 5:32:56 GMT -5
Shocking to come into an Adam Lambert thread after an exhilarating and pretty much pitch-perfect performance on the Today show to still read about something that happened last weekend, LOL. Adam continues to prove that vocally, he is one of the best that EVER did it. Period. I really hope Whataya Want From Me does well for him. He deserves to have people focus on his talent again. I have no sympathy for him in this regard, because the reason why people are not focusing on his talent is partly of his own doing. He chose to go that route with his performance on the AMAs, and he knows fully well that it would get people talking. He knows it would be controversial. If he wants people to recognize his talent, he should have gone with a performance similar to his WWFM performance on Letterman. He should be lucky people are so fixated on the overt sexual references in his performance that very few noticed that he really sucked in singing that song.
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Post by LittleMissMoonshine on Nov 27, 2009 6:09:43 GMT -5
^^ Exactly.
I knew even before the AMAs began that Adam will go for shock value, and I imagined it'd be through overt sexuality. The script for how this thing went down was written in advanced, and everything went off without a hitch (Except, probably, for the weak vocals and the tumble). From where I'm sitting, it was cynical and pre-meditated. I have no sympathy for him, he got exactly what he wanted - to be the water cooler convo post AMAs. That his talent takes a backsit doesn't seem to matter to him, why should it matter to me?
Bottom line is I don't think this will hurt his sales whatsoever, I think he's secretly loving the hype and the free publicity, and I think him being a media darling is one HUGE advantage he has over many other Idols. People outside the Idol bubble know who he is, and that's the first major step in getting them to hear and then possibly buy his music.
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Post by Rodze on Nov 27, 2009 7:18:11 GMT -5
^ a week later and you are are still talking about it ... :) The GMA performance was canceled Tuesday, which was three days ago... How is he talking about it a week later? I can see now why you find Adam interesting...
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Post by Kworb on Nov 27, 2009 7:26:26 GMT -5
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Nov 27, 2009 8:16:44 GMT -5
^ a week later and you are are still talking about it ... :) The GMA performance was canceled Tuesday, which was three days ago... How is he talking about it a week later? I can see now why you find Adam interesting... "I can see now why you find Adam interesting..." ... WTF? is that supposed to mean now? i can find interesting anybody i want to. not of your business and comments like that make me wanna barf! Oh, and i was talking about his AMA performance. / next ...
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Post by Rodze on Nov 27, 2009 8:28:17 GMT -5
"I can see now why you find Adam interesting..." ... WTF? is that supposed to mean now? i can find interesting anybody i want to. not of your business and comments like that make me wanna barf! Yeah, I shouldn't have made it personal about you. It's not my place to point out misjudgment by others. Sorry. :)
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Post by aTunes on Nov 27, 2009 9:33:37 GMT -5
Because Adam said that he did a lot of impromptu things during the AMA performance that he didn't do during rehearsal, I can understand how some networks might be concerned with the "unpredictability" issue, not necessarily the gay thing. A network needs to know upfront exactly what they're getting when they book you for a live performance, so they can decide for themselves if they want to take on that controversy.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Nov 27, 2009 9:41:52 GMT -5
Because Adam said that he did a lot of impromptu things during the AMA performance that he didn't do during rehearsal, I can understand how some networks might be concerned with the "unpredictability" issue, not necessarily the gay thing. A network needs to know upfront exactly what they're getting when they book you for a live performance, so they can decide for themselves if they want to take on that controversy. just like they knew about the Madonna/Britney/Christina kiss you mean? ;) i am sure they practiced that a million times during rehearsals ...
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Post by aTunes on Nov 27, 2009 9:45:41 GMT -5
Because Adam said that he did a lot of impromptu things during the AMA performance that he didn't do during rehearsal, I can understand how some networks might be concerned with the "unpredictability" issue, not necessarily the gay thing. A network needs to know upfront exactly what they're getting when they book you for a live performance, so they can decide for themselves if they want to take on that controversy. just like they knew about the Madonna/Britney/Christina kiss you mean? ;) i am sure they practiced that a million times during rehearsals ... I'd be willing to bet MTV knew about the Brit/Madge kiss before hand. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones that asked them to do it.
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Post by blurple on Nov 27, 2009 10:37:25 GMT -5
The situation between this and FYE (both being out at the same time) is so un-RCA. Anyway, count me to those that think that Sleepwalker and If I Had You are smashes waiting to happen. Those are the only 2 tracks that I remember vividly after listening to the album.
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Post by musicluver on Nov 27, 2009 11:31:02 GMT -5
Even without the kiss, the whole performance was just disgusting trashy music. Whatever, I will overlook that. What pisses me off most though is his post show I'm-such-a-superstar persona. I personally don't think he deserves any success after that. There are a lot more struggling talented artists out there who haven't had their chance to shine. I'm one of those who don't "get him." I guess I'm gonna be called a homophobe now and be put in the uncool box along with 80% of America ROFL.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Nov 27, 2009 11:51:37 GMT -5
^ Again, another example that those who bring it up again and again are not his fans. :)
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Post by clarksodi on Nov 27, 2009 11:58:54 GMT -5
Because Adam said that he did a lot of impromptu things during the AMA performance that he didn't do during rehearsal, I can understand how some networks might be concerned with the "unpredictability" issue, not necessarily the gay thing. A network needs to know upfront exactly what they're getting when they book you for a live performance, so they can decide for themselves if they want to take on that controversy. just like they knew about the Madonna/Britney/Christina kiss you mean? ;) i am sure they practiced that a million times during rehearsals ... Are you being sarcastic? Because the producers for the VMA did know about the kiss, and they had a camera ready to capture Justin's reaction, which was more important to them than getting the Maddona/Christina kiss.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Nov 27, 2009 12:15:48 GMT -5
So hawt out the box is Adam. I can't get enough of him and this song.
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Post by P!nkch TheO™ on Nov 27, 2009 12:19:27 GMT -5
Oh so that makes it ok for the ... children? Cuz MTV audience are mostly young kids. Parents a d the rest of America obviously were ok with that and didn't send complaints to the channel cuz it was on ALL stations news the next morning. Please!!!!!
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Post by aTunes on Nov 27, 2009 12:39:19 GMT -5
Oh so that makes it ok for the ... children? Cuz MTV audience are mostly young kids. Parents a d the rest of America obviously were ok with that and didn't send complaints to the channel cuz it was on ALL stations news the next morning. Please!!!!! My point was that MTV knew what they were getting into there. Obviously they wanted the attention/controversy. ABC didn't know what Adam was gonna do. They got blindsided with the whole thing. Therefore I can see why they and other networks would be concerned about being blindsided again with him. I think what Adam did during his performance was perfectly fine, but I understand why GMA canceled him. ABC obviously didn't want the controversy he created.
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Post by Rurry on Nov 27, 2009 12:39:43 GMT -5
Because it was MTV and the VMAs, which have been known for being controversial ever since they began in the 80s. The AMAs are supposed to be somewhat family-friendly, at least more than the VMAs. If Adam had done this performance on the VMAs it wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal.
And the fact that he didn't tell the network is a big deal, he can't just do whatever he wants. This guy seriously has no grasp on how the music industry works it seems.
Anyway has this taken off at all on CHR?
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Post by folkfan on Nov 27, 2009 12:45:21 GMT -5
atgs, Stephen, LittleMissMoonshine, and atunes have so completely covered my thoughts on the AMA "controversy" that was brewed up to help his sales that I don't need to say anymore on it. Heh.
Moving on, I'm also confused as to what is going on with his songs. FYE was definitely being pushed to radio, but then it wasn't taking off, and WWFM seemed to be liked more by at least some radio stations. So then, it seemed like they were backing off of FYE. But then they made the FYE video and announced that it was the AMAs performance, so I thought that maybe they were sticking with FYE after all. But then they shelved FYE for the rest of the media blitz, the video has gotten no play on MTV or VH1 (which makes me think that they didn't send it there), FYE's spins are dropping---and they gave WWFM an add date.
Most confusing launch ever.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 27, 2009 12:58:13 GMT -5
any publicity tho is good publicity. I hope WWFM explodes!
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Post by rellybois on Nov 27, 2009 15:30:50 GMT -5
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Post by ΣGØ.©[/IMG] on Nov 27, 2009 15:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by blue in moonlight on Nov 27, 2009 15:44:58 GMT -5
If I Had You sounds like a 2010 CHR smash in the beginning but then tanks when it goes all '80s movie soundtrack in the chorus. Too bad. I love the throwback chorus of "If I Had You." It fits appropriately given the nods to '70's, '80's and '90's throughout the album. IIHY is the one track that probably would have stuck out like a sore thumb but for its chorus. But I love it particularly the bridge. It should be the third single, IMO.
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Post by blurple on Nov 27, 2009 15:46:15 GMT -5
^ OMG I'm begging you for a second time... please change that avatar LMFAO
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