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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2005 19:19:04 GMT -5
Here's a radio rip of her first single. I love ya Faith, but try again please. She said she's releasing two singles to lead off the album which leads me to believe that she's just confused and this may be nothing more than a radio heater, but she's calling this a first single. s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2QQ0ITIG2K14I1JOTETY8JLSUB
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Post by Mega248 on Jan 24, 2005 20:22:56 GMT -5
Hot Jeremiah Freed remake!
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Post by bluenote on Jan 24, 2005 20:25:51 GMT -5
WOW I Love it! :o
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Post by FADE AWAY on Jan 24, 2005 20:31:42 GMT -5
Hot Jeremiah Freed remake! No no no. Original Faith Evans Hot Mess!
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Post by mattp650 on Jan 24, 2005 23:45:01 GMT -5
wow...i LOVE it!! i'm not even a Faith fan or ne-thing, but this song is HOTT!!! :o
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Post by jlh527 on Jan 24, 2005 23:57:29 GMT -5
Ok FAITH, PREACH!!!! Let them hater's know you aren't giving up, no matter what they say. She's knows WHO holds her tomorrow.
I'm feeling this song.
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Post by allow that on Jan 25, 2005 0:21:31 GMT -5
Wow this is definitely one of her more catchy songs. I'm feeling it too! ETA: The subject matter is something few can relate to though, which could hurt the song. Almost all other songs that I can think of about the downfalls of being a celebrity have flopped.
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Post by Me. I Am Justin... on Jan 25, 2005 0:29:26 GMT -5
And ya know I'm feelin' it! I was just expecting a club banger for the first single though. Maybe the other lead will be one. But this one could work.....
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 0:29:45 GMT -5
"if i had to do it all again i wouldn't take away the rain 'cause I know it made me who I am"
the hook is really instantly infection. ppl always saying things sound a mess when they here a radio rip, it messes it up. the bass line is REALLY hot (this is way more uptempo than she was letting on), i have a feeling that the full quality, full version will be killer. this is as good as lead single as "you gets no love" if not better.
damn the bass line is doing the damn thing.
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Post by allow that on Jan 25, 2005 0:31:25 GMT -5
this is as good as lead single as "you gets no love" if not better Definitely better. I love the "Mo Money Mo Problems" reference. The chorus is so infectious.
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 0:37:40 GMT -5
www.faithevansonline.com has the full quality streams... the bass is sick, there is one or maybe 2 strong samples... there is a whole "ooh Ooh ooh Ooh" thing going on that you cant hear on the radio edit. it's midtempo but it's totally danceable... damn the "ooh Ooh ooh Ooh" is hot, and with the bass, and the hook... this is pretty strong. and yes, the other single is a club banga.
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Post by allow that on Jan 25, 2005 0:42:12 GMT -5
HOT! Does it sample Chaka Khan?
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 0:45:27 GMT -5
HOT! Does it sample Chaka Khan? yeah I'm trying really hard to figure it out... the sample is killer, and i can't quite place it. arrrrgh. pretty sure it's not chaka.
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Post by Me. I Am Justin... on Jan 25, 2005 1:05:28 GMT -5
After listening to the full version, I can honestly say that this song is HOT TAMALE! Yeah I said it!! I wonder who produced it this? And the sample is so tight (I don't think it's Chaka either). Welcome back, Faith....The 1st Lady!!
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Post by RNMCfan on Jan 25, 2005 1:08:54 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Faith. I like it!!! Can't wait for a full album.
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Post by bluenote on Jan 25, 2005 2:51:02 GMT -5
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 10:54:35 GMT -5
thx for the link, it's almost full quality.
the combo of that bass and those backup singers are killer.
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Post by FADE AWAY on Jan 25, 2005 11:52:44 GMT -5
I hope this is just a buzz track. I don't see it doing well on urban at all. And seeing that's the only format this song could possibly take off on, da furst ladee might be screwed.
I like it a little more after hearing a clearer version and keeping it on repeat, but I still don't think it should be a first single.
Like the sample though. Nice and soulful. What is it?
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 12:17:07 GMT -5
it's not just a buzz track, although another song may be serviced to radio, too. this is going to do just fine, "you gets no love" made it to #7 R&B and this track is more radio friendly, fresher, and Capitol is promoting her better than Puffy did in 2001/2002
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2005 14:52:35 GMT -5
"You Gets No Love" was relatable and that's why it was a hit. I, and I'm sure many other radio listeners, don't give a shit about Faith's personal drama. She can take that back to her album. There are two types of hits now, dance hits and relatable pop ballads. This is neither. This is honestly my least favorite Faith track in the history of her career. I just don't care to hear details of her personal drama.
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 14:59:46 GMT -5
"You Gets No Love" was relatable and that's why it was a hit. I, and I'm sure many other radio listeners, don't give a s**t about Faith's personal drama. She can take that back to her album. There are two types of hits now, dance hits and relatable pop ballads. This is neither. This is honestly my least favorite Faith track in the history of her career. I just don't care to hear details of her personal drama. but you like hearing what Mariah had for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. If you can't relate to "If I had to do it all again, I wouldn't take away the rain, because I know it made me who I am", then I guess you've never gone through any situation that was tough but you feel made you stronger. You're obviously not even giving it a chance, it's not an autobiography, it's about learning from your mistakes and hard times, which is an EXTREMELY relatable thing. Also people don't care THAT much about what a song is saying, you overestimate that.
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Post by bluenote on Jan 25, 2005 15:00:58 GMT -5
I'm not too sure about how well this will do but i like it for some reason. i think its the beat. Maybe it has a old school vibe or something(who produced this sounds like Kanye or something). I think people can relate to the hook of the song which is whats most important. they may not be able to identify with her verses and her drug problem or whatever, but everyone can relate to making mistakes in the past and realizing how they made u who u are today. I think this song is more relatable then you may think.
"if i had to do it all again, i wouldnt take away the rain cause i know it made me who i am. if i had to do it all again, i've learned so much from my mistakes thats how i know he's watchin me." :'(
I think this song is going to fly over VERY well with the URBAN audience.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2005 15:01:02 GMT -5
but you like hearing what Mariah had for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. If you can't relate to "If I had to do it all again, I wouldn't take away the rain, because I know it made me who I am", then I guess you've never gone through any situation that was tough but you feel made you stronger. You're right. I'm not a crackhead with a DL husband. Oh well. Also people don't care THAT much about what a song is saying, you overestimate that. You're right! That's why it worked so well for Whitney!
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Post by bluenote on Jan 25, 2005 15:02:43 GMT -5
but you like hearing what Mariah had for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. If you can't relate to "If I had to do it all again, I wouldn't take away the rain, because I know it made me who I am", then I guess you've never gone through any situation that was tough but you feel made you stronger. You're obviously not even giving it a chance, it's not an autobiography, it's about learning from your mistakes and hard times, which is an EXTREMELY relatable thing. Also people don't care THAT much about what a song is saying, you overestimate that. OMG i agree with Bob for once! :o
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 15:06:59 GMT -5
You're right. I'm not a crackhead with a DL husband. Oh well. Irrelevant. This song is nothing like "Whatchulookinat". Look, Faith did exactly what you're supposed to do for a good song-- draw from personal experience to convey a message that applies to everyone. She talks about what she knows about, and then the chorus and bridge apply to the lesson of it all. I don't know what you're tripping about, really. On top of that, it's a great beat and good vocals. GettinItRight, it's actually a Faith Evans (!)/Carvin/Ivan production.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2005 15:11:01 GMT -5
Faith is singing about all the money she has and how it's changed her life and influenced her to make bad decisions and she sings about the drug bust in her husband's car. She also sings about how the tabloids make up rumors. I don't see how that's relatable. Did you listen to the lyrics?
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2005 15:18:42 GMT -5
Faith is singing about all the money she has and how it's changed her life and influenced her to make bad decisions and she sings about the drug bust in her husband's car. She also sings about how the tabloids make up rumors. I don't see how that's relatable. Did you listen to the lyrics? Did you read my post? In the verses she sings about what SHE'S been through, and in the chorus she relates it to a global audience. It's something that's done by writers, called giving examples. She could have made up generic examples and kept the same theme in the chorus, but then she wouldn't have felt as close to the matter and the song wouldn't turn out again. You relate to the meaning of the song-- you're taking it too literal. You're not supposed to be able to listen to a song and LITERALLY think, "oh yeah, that happened to me yesterday" every time. Name a few songs that are "relatable" and you'll realize that unless they're worded really generically, they're specific things that the songwriter went through. I've never been in a situation like in "Since U Been Gone" or "Live Like You Were Dying" (I don't have cancer or gone sky diving etc etc) but that doesn't take away from those songs. Neither does this.
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Post by Me. I Am Justin... on Jan 25, 2005 15:27:30 GMT -5
You're right! That's why it worked so well for Whitney! I don't think this is as blatant as "Whatchulookinat". Just the chorus alone is uplifting IMO. We'll just have to see how this plays out.
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Post by FADE AWAY on Jan 25, 2005 17:04:50 GMT -5
"You Gets No Love" was relatable and that's why it was a hit. I, and I'm sure many other radio listeners, don't give a s**t about Faith's personal drama. She can take that back to her album. There are two types of hits now, dance hits and relatable pop ballads. This is neither. This is honestly my least favorite Faith track in the history of her career. I just don't care to hear details of her personal drama. I agree. I don't think some of you are understanding the context "relatable" is being used in (or maybe something is just wrong with me, but I seriously doubt it.) But when you say "relatable," it's not saying that the listener is going to hear the song and be like "wow I can totally relate to this." It is more along the lines of "okay this is a realistic situation that I can see happening to me, or to someone I know." And in that standing, "You Gets No Love" is much more relatable than "Again," --not to mention it is just a better song. This is pretty much Faith's "oh woe is me its so hard being a 'celebrity'" track. Nobody wants to hear you whine about how when you got money people started treating you differently. Nobody wants to hear how you think the media made a fool of you because you're an alleged crackhead and this wouldn't have happened if you weren't a "celebrity." Sure, the chorus may be "uplifting," but it isn't lifting anyone out of their seats. And the whole "I've learned from my mistakes so I wouldn't change a thing" mumbo jumbo is pretty cliche. Okay album track. Dumb first single.
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Post by allow that on Jan 25, 2005 18:21:51 GMT -5
No one is saying everyone can relate to every single lyrics of a song. But, 99.9999% of people can't relate to paparazzi exploiting them or whatnot. They don't want to hear it. It didn't work for Whitney. It didn't work for Britney. It didn't work for countless others. But who DID it work for? I can't think of any examples. I don't think some of you are understanding the context "relatable" is being used in (or maybe something is just wrong with me, but I seriously doubt it.) But when you say "relatable," it's not saying that the listener is going to hear the song and be like "wow I can totally relate to this." It is more along the lines of "okay this is a realistic situation that I can see happening to me, or to someone I know." Exactly. And I agree with Bob that the chorus is very relatable, BUT the verses ARE autobiography and as I listened to this on repeat last night, I did get bored with verse 2 as much as I liked the song. It just doesn't connect. Her examples are so specific and factual that you can't relate to them. If she wanted to use personal examples, she could have focused more on the phsychological barriers she had to overcome rather than specific, obscure physical ones. Bottom line imo: This is still Faith catchiest song since "Love Like This," at least to me. I love the bass, great sample, infectious chorus. The overall theme of perseverance is relatable, but the fact that the verses are so out of touch with the average listener overrides that. I could see this going Top 20, but not Top 10. If it were the same exact song with different lyrics, I'd say Top 5.
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