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Post by gardyfan on Aug 2, 2020 10:28:04 GMT -5
I guess the only problem is that songs like “I Hope” , “Chasin’ You” or “The Bones” all deserves #1 due to their high streaming and digital sales numbers so it makes sense they weren’t retired early. There is a lot of disconect between the high streaming and digital numbers. 1.The majority of the people in this country are low income, and can't afford streaming access. 2.People do not have a credit card to buy digital sales. 3.There are people who stream the same song over and over again which throws everything off. 4.The most requested songs are not the songs like the Bones and them. They are usually traditional songs like Ain't Always a Cowboy, or in Wyoming Ned LeDoux's Dance With Your Spurs On. The charts used to tally the number of requests in the total of spins. The number of spins do not say the song is popular. It is the radio companies forcing these songs to be played when in reality, they are being rejected. I consider Gabby Barrett as a rock star in the line of Pat Benetar, Heart, Joa Jett, Lita Ford and the likes. Gabby belongs in the Rock Genre. 1. Not true when you have companies like Spotify who have a free option. 2. Definitely not true. 3. So you think everybody should only listen to a song once? That is really silly to expect. 4. Again this is simply not true. As long as I have followed the charts requests were never counted as a spin. It's always been what's played, and in more recent years includes sales and streams. When a song is rejected it is very obvious on the charts. Are radio companies forcing some songs? Sure. As much as you may want it to be, Gabby is country. You don't get to decide she doesn't get played on country radio. I don't know where you get things like this from but they are simply not true. When you say the indicator chart has a bigger audience that is flat out wrong. The numbers are right on the charts so maybe you don't understand how to read them? The one thing I do agree with you on is airplay from non-country stations should not count on the country sales Hot Country chart. But I don't consider that to be a true measure of airplay anyways.
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Post by davidcountry on Aug 2, 2020 14:07:10 GMT -5
There is a lot of disconect between the high streaming and digital numbers. 1.The majority of the people in this country are low income, and can't afford streaming access. 2.People do not have a credit card to buy digital sales. 3.There are people who stream the same song over and over again which throws everything off. 4.The most requested songs are not the songs like the Bones and them. They are usually traditional songs like Ain't Always a Cowboy, or in Wyoming Ned LeDoux's Dance With Your Spurs On. The charts used to tally the number of requests in the total of spins. The number of spins do not say the song is popular. It is the radio companies forcing these songs to be played when in reality, they are being rejected. I consider Gabby Barrett as a rock star in the line of Pat Benetar, Heart, Joa Jett, Lita Ford and the likes. Gabby belongs in the Rock Genre. 1. Not true when you have companies like Spotify who have a free option. 2. Definitely not true. 3. So you think everybody should only listen to a song once? That is really silly to expect. 4. Again this is simply not true. As long as I have followed the charts requests were never counted as a spin. It's always been what's played, and in more recent years includes sales and streams. When a song is rejected it is very obvious on the charts. Are radio companies forcing some songs? Sure. As much as you may want it to be, Gabby is country. You don't get to decide she doesn't get played on country radio. I don't know where you get things like this from but they are simply not true. When you say the indicator chart has a bigger audience that is flat out wrong. The numbers are right on the charts so maybe you don't understand how to read them? The one thing I do agree with you on is airplay from non-country stations should not count on the country sales Hot Country chart. But I don't consider that to be a true measure of airplay anyways. 1.Who said spotified? I am talking about your internet provider charge you extra if you go over your limits in a month. 2.I don't have a credit card and a lot of other do not. 3.I am talking about people who stream songs over and over again like they did with Ol' Town Road which was the number one country song last year. 4.Long Hot Summer was the most requested song on a pop station back in 2010, and that song never hit the pop charts. I think you are young. I am 51, and many of these artists do not belong on the country charts because they belong on a different chart. There are so many people just like me want to hear traditional country sound and not the Nashville pop sound. That is why acts like Cody Jinks, Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childers, Johnny Cash, Dolly Partons and others are getting more stream play on Spotify/ITunes than many of today's artists. That is why Texas radio stations broke away from Nashville. Nashville forgot where their roots are. I have many friends from the plain states want their radio stations to break away from Nashville and build onto what Texas done. When smaller radio stations across this country go back to traditional country music? Their audience went up. There is a rebellion against Nashville right now from young and old a like.
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Post by gardyfan on Aug 2, 2020 14:14:56 GMT -5
I'm done with you. You're either trolling or are very confused about how charts and streaming work.
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Post by raylatch98 on Aug 2, 2020 14:48:56 GMT -5
1. Not true when you have companies like Spotify who have a free option. 2. Definitely not true. 3. So you think everybody should only listen to a song once? That is really silly to expect. 4. Again this is simply not true. As long as I have followed the charts requests were never counted as a spin. It's always been what's played, and in more recent years includes sales and streams. When a song is rejected it is very obvious on the charts. Are radio companies forcing some songs? Sure. As much as you may want it to be, Gabby is country. You don't get to decide she doesn't get played on country radio. I don't know where you get things like this from but they are simply not true. When you say the indicator chart has a bigger audience that is flat out wrong. The numbers are right on the charts so maybe you don't understand how to read them? The one thing I do agree with you on is airplay from non-country stations should not count on the country sales Hot Country chart. But I don't consider that to be a true measure of airplay anyways. 1.Who said spotified? I am talking about your internet provider charge you extra if you go over your limits in a month. 2.I don't have a credit card and a lot of other do not. 3.I am talking about people who stream songs over and over again like they did with Ol' Town Road which was the number one country song last year. 4.Long Hot Summer was the most requested song on a pop station back in 2010, and that song never hit the pop charts. I think you are young. I am 51, and many of these artists do not belong on the country charts because they belong on a different chart. There are so many people just like me want to hear traditional country sound and not the Nashville pop sound. That is why acts like Cody Jinks, Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childers, Johnny Cash, Dolly Partons and others are getting more stream play on Spotify/ITunes than many of today's artists. That is why Texas radio stations broke away from Nashville. Nashville forgot where their roots are. I have many friends from the plain states want their radio stations to break away from Nashville and build onto what Texas done. When smaller radio stations across this country go back to traditional country music? Their audience went up. There is a rebellion against Nashville right now from young and old a like. Ok this is just ridiculous. 1. Stuff like Spotify, YouTube, Pandora, etc is free to the user to have an account and as for Internet Provider, most people either use Internet/Wifi they don't have too pay for (see fast food places, grocery stores, school). 2. Since I am not knowledgeable in this subject I am not going to talk about it 3. Wait, what? Are people supposed to stream a song once and be done with it? That makes no sense, music is meant to be listened to again and again if you like said song, 4. Request does not equal spin, since radio themselves decide what gets played and not Also this whole traditional rebellion does not make any sense, like both traditional fans and modern fans can and do co-exist first of all. Second of all I find it hard to believe that this rebellion is even that popular since country radio is having it's biggest year of exposure with all these songs that have cracked the ALL Genre Hot 100's Top 40: ["10,000 Hours", "After A Few", "Beer Can't Fix", "Bluebird", "The Bones", "Catch", "Chasin You", "Die From A Broken Heart", "Does To Me", "Hard To Forget", "Here and Now", "Homemade", "Homesick", "I Hope", "I Hope You're Happy Now", "Kinfolks", "More Hearts Than Mine", "Nobody But You", "One Margarita", "Slow Dance In A Parking Lot". "What If I Never Get Over You"] For a grand total of 21 songs that have cracked the Top 40 this year and the one song this year that really goes to old school country in "Heartache Medication" that saw success was a pretty middle of the road hit with the public. Regardless given your previous posts this post is probably my last post addressed to you.
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Post by bigd79 on Aug 2, 2020 15:30:17 GMT -5
I guess the only problem is that songs like “I Hope” , “Chasin’ You” or “The Bones” all deserves #1 due to their high streaming and digital sales numbers so it makes sense they weren’t retired early. There is a lot of disconect between the high streaming and digital numbers. 1.The majority of the people in this country are low income, and can't afford streaming access. 2.People do not have a credit card to buy digital sales. 3.There are people who stream the same song over and over again which throws everything off. 4.The most requested songs are not the songs like the Bones and them. They are usually traditional songs like Ain't Always a Cowboy, or in Wyoming Ned LeDoux's Dance With Your Spurs On. The charts used to tally the number of requests in the total of spins. The number of spins do not say the song is popular. It is the radio companies forcing these songs to be played when in reality, they are being rejected. I consider Gabby Barrett as a rock star in the line of Pat Benetar, Heart, Joa Jett, Lita Ford and the likes. Gabby belongs in the Rock Genre. 1. there are places you can stream for free(albeit its more limited) but i believe amazon music unlimited is still $7.99 a month which is pretty affordable if you ask me 2. there's not a single adult person i know that doesn't have a credit card, or at the very least a debit card so i'm not sure where you are getting that from(and you don't need a credit card if you don't want to use one anyways, as you can go to target or walmart and buy i tunes giftcards which work just as good) 3. this is true, hardcore fans of certain artists will do this 4. Where's your source for this? I highly doubt any Ned Ledoux or even Jon Pardi is out-requesting Maren Morris. And Gabby Barrett if anything should be listed as pop, if not country. But i guess thats why people will call her a pop country singer. If she had come out in the 80s then i could maybe see where you might see her as a rock singer as she most likely would be promoted as a rock/pop singer back then. But times have changed, and not always for the better.
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Post by bdrm87 on Aug 2, 2020 17:33:14 GMT -5
Why is this thread giving me a headache?
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Post by davidcountry on Aug 3, 2020 1:10:08 GMT -5
There is a lot of disconect between the high streaming and digital numbers. 1.The majority of the people in this country are low income, and can't afford streaming access. 2.People do not have a credit card to buy digital sales. 3.There are people who stream the same song over and over again which throws everything off. 4.The most requested songs are not the songs like the Bones and them. They are usually traditional songs like Ain't Always a Cowboy, or in Wyoming Ned LeDoux's Dance With Your Spurs On. The charts used to tally the number of requests in the total of spins. The number of spins do not say the song is popular. It is the radio companies forcing these songs to be played when in reality, they are being rejected. I consider Gabby Barrett as a rock star in the line of Pat Benetar, Heart, Joa Jett, Lita Ford and the likes. Gabby belongs in the Rock Genre. 1. there are places you can stream for free(albeit its more limited) but i believe amazon music unlimited is still $7.99 a month which is pretty affordable if you ask me 2. there's not a single adult person i know that doesn't have a credit card, or at the very least a debit card so i'm not sure where you are getting that from(and you don't need a credit card if you don't want to use one anyways, as you can go to target or walmart and buy i tunes giftcards which work just as good) 3. this is true, hardcore fans of certain artists will do this 4. Where's your source for this? I highly doubt any Ned Ledoux or even Jon Pardi is out-requesting Maren Morris. And Gabby Barrett if anything should be listed as pop, if not country. But i guess thats why people will call her a pop country singer. If she had come out in the 80s then i could maybe see where you might see her as a rock singer as she most likely would be promoted as a rock/pop singer back then. But times have changed, and not always for the better. I am a fan of all kinds of music. In the 1980s, I listened to the pop stations that do play artists like Gabby Barrett, Jason Aldean, Eric Church, Brantley Gilbert, Travis Denning and the likes as rock stars. Dan + Shay, Brett Young, Kane Brown and others like them be considered acts like Prince, Michael Jackson, Rick Springfield, Rick Astley and the likes. Kelsea Ballerini, Lauren Alaina and the likes would be like Debbie Gibson, Donna Summer, and others like that. In the 90s, you did have cross over acts like Wynnona with No One Else On Earth, Mary Chapin-Carpenter with Passionate Kisses, Blackhawk with Every Once In Awhile, Smoking Armadillo with Red Rock and since this was an Oklahoma City pop station, they played the hell out of Garth Brooks which he racked up more spins than other artists.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 3, 2020 1:19:21 GMT -5
davidcountry I think I can speak for most here when I say that I respect your viewpoint, but I think you're doing a lot of projecting and assuming when you speak on certain topics like this. To say things like that most people don't have a credit card, or access to streaming, or that Gabby Barrett should be considered "rock music" of all things, is all sorts of reaching.
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Post by davidcountry on Aug 3, 2020 9:18:15 GMT -5
davidcountry I think I can speak for most here when I say that I respect your viewpoint, but I think you're doing a lot of projecting and assuming when you speak on certain topics like this. To say things like that most people don't have a credit card, or access to streaming, or that Gabby Barrett should be considered "rock music" of all things, is all sorts of reaching. It is the generation gap that is the issue. Older country music fans reject the majority of these artists. The issue is that the problem is the record label exects who put non-country music leaders to run the record label out of Nashville. In the 1970s, you got the Outlaw Country artists forming to reject country leaning towards pop. When the 1980s came about, neo-traditional music came about and with help from former pop stars who went from pop to country like Dan Seals (England Dan and John Ford Coley), Marie Osmond, B. W. Stevens (My Maria pop fame), Michael Martin Murphy and others including Vince Gill. Cody Johnson explains this better than me. Can you picture Dan + Shay singing traditional country music? They would never sell any records. But, Hank Williams sold a lot of albums for an old style country, and get number 1 pop songs singing true country songs proves that a song can still sell no matter what genre it is in. Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, Glen Campbell, Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline, Gene Autry, George Jones, Bobbie Gentry, Jeannie C. Riley, to name a few reaced number one on radio pop charts because they were who they were. Different sounds and popular. As it is, these traditional country artists like Cody Johnson, George Strait, Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, Jason Isbell and the likes have come out and slamming Nashville for losing the neo-traditional sounds. The neo-traditional sounds are making a come back with Luke Combs, Jon Pardi, Miranda Lambert, Cody Johnson, Randall King, Riley Green, Midland, Blake Shelton switched back lately, Gary Allan, Larry Fleet, Dillion Carmichael, Parker McCollum, The Desert City Ramblers, Joe and Martina, Tiffany Woys, Randy Rogers Band, Cody Jinks and many others are making a say that true country can still sell. The record studio wanted Jon Pardi on his first album to be a pop/rock album for country which really flopped, but he sold records and got number one with Red Dirt/Honky Tonk/Western Swing sound for his number 1 songs. It does tell you that country fans want traditional country. As it is, there was an interview from George Strait recently that Nashville turned their backs on him since they never really pushed his album or his songs to radio. I can not believe that his album failed. He was the best selling country artist of all time selling albums.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 3, 2020 20:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 3, 2020 20:57:47 GMT -5
Zero songs went Top 10 Airplay last week.
One song goes Top 10 Airplay this week.
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Post by 🌺CountryLineDancer on Aug 6, 2020 14:39:43 GMT -5
Video of the week. - Good to see Taylor back, betty is the best song from the album for sure. - Langston is back as well, I like Now You Know, but it's pretty old and not so popular. Never entered Hot Country Chart, even when it peaked at #32.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 10, 2020 19:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by 🌺CountryLineDancer on Aug 11, 2020 17:55:22 GMT -5
1 new song and 2 new re-entries. Shame that Some People Do did not become a hit.
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 14, 2020 14:28:53 GMT -5
Does anyone have the first chart for 2020 with audience numbers? It’ should be the January 5, 2020 chart where Beer Can’t Fix debuted. I need it for a project and need it with audience numbers.
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Post by raylatch98 on Aug 14, 2020 14:33:20 GMT -5
Sorry I mean the following week, Luke's 5th, that was a typo. lol Does anyone have the first chart for 2020 with audience numbers? It’ should be the January 5, 2020 chart where Beer Can’t Fix debuted. I need it for a project and need it with audience numbers. This should be it
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 14, 2020 14:51:36 GMT -5
Does anyone have the first chart for 2020 with audience numbers? It’ should be the January 5, 2020 chart where Beer Can’t Fix debuted. I need it for a project and need it with audience numbers. This should be it Thanks! Much appreciated!
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 14, 2020 17:40:20 GMT -5
Ok so here is another question. When Billboard compiles the year end chart do they count the audience at the end of the year for the week a song doesn't chart or do they just count the audience for when the song is in the top 60? For example Lauren Alaina's Getting Good dropped off the chart then re-entered this week so do they count the audience for the week she was out of the top 60?
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Post by raylatch98 on Aug 14, 2020 18:03:02 GMT -5
Ok so here is another question. When Billboard compiles the year end chart do they count the audience at the end of the year for the week a song doesn't chart or do they just count the audience for when the song is in the top 60? For example Lauren Alaina's Getting Good dropped off the chart then re-entered this week so do they count the audience for the week she was out of the top 60? No I am like 100% sure they only count when a song appears on the chart.
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Aug 14, 2020 18:54:47 GMT -5
raylatch98 is correct. In fact, this is the reason the MB and BB song of the year can be very different sometimes. MB counts all Airplay throughout the year whether it is current or recurrent, BB does not.
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Aug 15, 2020 10:24:58 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post but does anyone have a list, or know if one exists of every song to enter the Hot Country Songs chart (I’m talking radio + streams + Airplay) at #1? I am interested in knowing how many songs have been able to accomplish that feat. I know Garth is the only person to ever do it on the Airplay chart.
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Post by liza on Aug 17, 2020 1:12:07 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post but does anyone have a list, or know if one exists of every song to enter the Hot Country Songs chart (I’m talking radio + streams + Airplay) at #1? I am interested in knowing how many songs have been able to accomplish that feat. I know Garth is the only person to ever do it on the Airplay chart. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_number-one_country_hits
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 17, 2020 7:29:28 GMT -5
So 2 questions. Did Billboard stop sending these out by email? Also didn’t they use to send out a pdf by email for all charts?
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Aug 17, 2020 19:54:28 GMT -5
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 17, 2020 20:51:46 GMT -5
^Thanks!
2 songs went Top 10 Airplay last week. Zero songs this week.
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Post by recordyear on Aug 17, 2020 22:20:18 GMT -5
So 2 questions. Did Billboard stop sending these out by email? Also didn’t they use to send out a pdf by email for all charts? I still received the latest charts in PDF by email.
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 19, 2020 14:21:42 GMT -5
So “Somebody Like You” was the #1 song of the 2000’s on Billboard. The song was not #1 on a year end chart. My question is how did Billboard compile the decade end chart? Did they use recurrent spins when songs were not on the chart? Just curious to see how hard it would be to try to compile a decade end for Billboard since they didn’t for the Airplay. If they did and someone has it could you please message me it. I know “Barefoot Blue Jean Night” took Mediabase’s
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Post by 🌺CountryLineDancer on Aug 19, 2020 15:37:45 GMT -5
Video of the week. Extremely quiet week. Y'allsome came back, but not a fan of that one, hope it wont do well on the chart...
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 25, 2020 8:42:27 GMT -5
This may sound like a weird question but how many of you download or own every song that enters the top 60 on Airplay?
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