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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 29, 2010 1:41:46 GMT -5
"Bad Romance" is the best dance song since "Hung Up" i kinda agree with this. Even though Bad Romance is the better "song" structurally, Hung Up will remain more iconic in the long run...at least worldwide. It's basically Madonna's biggest worldwide hit vs. Lady Gaga's most iconic hit. Wasn't Poker Face a bigger hit? but i agree. They are comparable. In terms of impact, at least. let me put it to you this way: there was a time when Hung Up came out, and regardless of it's US airplay stature, i could literally walk into any gay bar across America and it would be blaring on every speaker in every room at the bar, all in unison. It made a HUGE impact in the gay community, charts or no charts. I don't think Bad Romance came even close to it, but in terms of the charts, it did. Time will tell... sure i'll get some rebuttals saying no no no, Lady Gaga's is more iconic. But coming from firsthand experience, Hung Up was a bonafide US smash, regardless of the airplay charts. It lit the place up, it made people order more drinks, it made people dance. It made people say.."fugg it, i'll stay a little while longer" |
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Post by FSUmcIL on Sept 29, 2010 9:25:46 GMT -5
^^But...I hear Bad Romance in straight bars A LOT more often than I heard Hung up in the same places.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 29, 2010 9:58:42 GMT -5
I think comparing Bad Romance to Hung Up and Poker Face is hard. There are arguments I can think of that make each the "bigger" or more "iconic" hit. I will just be satisfied saying that that all three are excellent songs deserving of being massive worldwide hits.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 29, 2010 11:03:47 GMT -5
^^But...I hear Bad Romance in straight bars A LOT more often than I heard Hung up in the same places. That's probably true, too. |
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Post by Mic Technique on Sept 29, 2010 12:47:42 GMT -5
Unless a decade of offshore pop music happened to pass you by, The Fame is a highly unsatisfying LP.
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Post by Glove Slap on Sept 29, 2010 14:49:27 GMT -5
Unless a decade of offshore pop music happened to pass you by, The Fame is a highly unsatisfying LP. Why even go offshore? One can find better domestic mainstream pop albums than The Fame without ever applying for a passport. |
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Post by when the pawn... on Sept 29, 2010 19:29:06 GMT -5
Unless a decade of offshore pop music happened to pass you by, The Fame is a highly unsatisfying LP. Why even go offshore? One can find better domestic mainstream pop albums than The Fame without ever applying for a passport. There was definitely some filler - if she ended the album at Brown Eyes, it'd be much better overall. |
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Post by discoloser on Sept 29, 2010 21:41:36 GMT -5
Vanity and Fashion instead of BDR and Brown Eyes, that's what i woulda done. lol
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Sept 30, 2010 1:58:54 GMT -5
I'd have had a tracklist like this:
o1. Just Dance
o2. Poker Face
o3. LoveGame
o4. Paparazzi
o5. The Fame
o6. Money Honey
o7. No Way
o8. Fever
o9. Out Of Control
1o. I Like It Rough
11. Starstruck
12. Paper Gangsta
13. Reloaded
14. Brown Eyes
15. Fooled Me Again
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Post by Mic Technique on Sept 30, 2010 13:05:39 GMT -5
Why even go offshore? One can find better domestic mainstream pop albums than The Fame without ever applying for a passport. Can't argue this. Vanity and Fashion instead of BDR and Brown Eyes, that's what i woulda done. lol All four songs should have never seen the light of day. The least crowd-pleasing numbers at The Monster Ball were non-singles sprung from The Fame era. And judging by how GaGa deliberately skimmed them - anxious to get to the acclaimed TFM performances, I assume - we were on the same page. |
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Sept 30, 2010 18:01:52 GMT -5
What's wrong with Brown Eyes and BDR? I agree with the other two, though.
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Sept 30, 2010 18:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by LoveKiller on Sept 30, 2010 18:12:01 GMT -5
I love Second Time Around...I wish that song would show up somewhere.
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 30, 2010 18:22:37 GMT -5
I wish I was at that club!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 30, 2010 22:45:20 GMT -5
The songs I liked on the Fame other than the singles were Beautiful, Dirty, Rich, The Fame, Paper Gangsta, Eh Eh, and Starstruck.
Honestly, better than most debut cds-9 good songs to me puts it on par with other pop debuts by similar pop breakouts. Of course, all my personal opinion since I am sure someone will have tons of pop debuts that they think had ALL great songs or whatever. I always just end updisliking at least 4-5 songs from debut cds though.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Sept 30, 2010 22:53:44 GMT -5
She's giving me Ke$ha vibes in those pics.
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Post by Rurry on Sept 30, 2010 23:01:05 GMT -5
The Fame really wasn't very good. The singles (minus LoveGame) were solid, and I liked Eh Eh, but other than that...bleh.
The Fame Monster was like an improved version of The Fame.
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Post by . on Oct 1, 2010 0:18:13 GMT -5
'The Fame' was all about having money, living a glamorous lifestyle and of course, sexual desire. 'The Fame Monster' in contrast explored a much different side of Gaga, and rather than making a record about making people feel good, the album exposed much darker themes. As the two albums differ in this way, they go together.
I believe the next album is going to head in a completely different direction. She isn't going to go back and do the same thing again, or expand on the previous material because the whole 'fame' thing is done. The title is 'Born This Way' and as Gaga stated, "IT IS THE ANTHEM FOR OUR GENERATION", which leads me to believe that the album will be all about self-empowerment, acceptance, equality and determination.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Oct 1, 2010 0:20:38 GMT -5
I actually believe that debut albums are usually one of any artists best. They have a nearly infinite amount of time to work on it if so they wish (...except idols.). Ke$ha worked on "Animal" for YEARS and it turned out amazing.
However, I prefer TFM over The Fame.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Oct 1, 2010 0:38:07 GMT -5
Wowowow she looks... good! I'm glad she rediscovered brown eyebrows. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Oct 1, 2010 3:31:07 GMT -5
i wouldn't say she looks good. All that bling is so distracting and tired, imo. Love the nails, tho.
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Post by lum on Oct 1, 2010 3:45:05 GMT -5
She looks fantastic! I love her recent look.
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Post by nightshade on Oct 1, 2010 10:50:29 GMT -5
Vanity and Fashion instead of BDR and Brown Eyes, that's what i woulda done. lol Agree...but instead of taking out BDR I'd take out Summerboy. Vanity & Fashion are two of my favorites from The Fame era. The least crowd-pleasing numbers at The Monster Ball were non-singles sprung from The Fame era. And judging by how GaGa deliberately skimmed them - anxious to get to the acclaimed TFM performances, I assume - we were on the same page. I didn't see too many people into Monster. It seemed like it was just there. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 11:09:13 GMT -5
She looks fantastic! I love her recent look. I agree, she's actually starting to look good. I thought there was no hope after the Alejandro video, but I'm glad she is proving me wrong. :) |
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Oct 1, 2010 11:26:45 GMT -5
The Fame really wasn't very good. The singles (minus LoveGame) were solid, and I liked Eh Eh, but other than that...bleh. The Fame Monster was like an improved version of The Fame. Around here, people go wild for LoveGame more than anything else from The Fame. Even at the concert in Charlottesville, people went MAD and CRAZY when the beat started for LoveGame. It's actually my favorite single to dance to from The Fame. It's so infectious. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Oct 3, 2010 17:56:13 GMT -5
^ ppl from here only remember it for its discostick line. it was so funny when it first came out
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Post by Dammn Baby on Oct 3, 2010 17:59:51 GMT -5
I actually believe that debut albums are usually one of any artists best. They have a nearly infinite amount of time to work on it if so they wish (...except idols.). Ke$ha worked on "Animal" for YEARS and it turned out amazing. However, I prefer TFM over The Fame. Ke$ha worked on Animal for years and that's the best she could do? Really?!?!?! |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 3, 2010 18:08:54 GMT -5
I actually believe that debut albums are usually one of any artists best. They have a nearly infinite amount of time to work on it if so they wish (...except idols.). Ke$ha worked on "Animal" for YEARS and it turned out amazing. However, I prefer TFM over The Fame. Ke$ha worked on Animal for years and that's the best she could do? Really?!?!?!Animal is a pretty good pop debut album IMO. There's hundreds of demos out there though. Obviously someone made some unwise tracklisting decisions for her. Otherwise, it's a pretty solid debut pop album. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 3, 2010 18:11:58 GMT -5
Kesha took years because she did different genres of music first. Like, I think that album changed from a country cd to a rock cd to finally the cd we actually got. And, it worked-I doubt it would have been as successful if she did those other genres. Overall, it is a fairly solid pop debut cd. In some ways, more consistent than others. I do think it gets fairly same-soundey at points though and wish some of the demos had made it over the ones that did make it.
When I think of debut cds considering pop artists I rarely find them the best-Britney Spears BOMT her best cd good from first to last song? No. Christina's debut could cut half the songs and no one would care. Katy Perry's debut that was awesome halfway. Gaga another one. Rihanna's debut cd is definitely not her best. Kelly Clarkson's was fun and great, but her best???
There are counterexamples to that but I don't think it is unheard of for baby pop artists to release cds where they have epic singles and some epic album gems, but then also some filler that 5 years later even fans won't care about. Like, I don't see anyone roaring about how they wish Britney would perform random debut album tracks or Rihanna fans wishing she would ditch new cd stuff for deep cuts on her debut lol.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Oct 3, 2010 18:23:22 GMT -5
Ke$ha worked on Animal for years and that's the best she could do? Really?!?!?!Animal is a pretty good pop debut album IMO. There's hundreds of demos out there though. Obviously someone made some unwise tracklisting decisions for her. Otherwise, it's a pretty solid debut pop album. It's a decent debut, but years?!?!?! LOL. I guess I just remember the days when artists didn't take years to assemble something so generic. |
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