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Post by mcbrearty on Nov 4, 2010 9:02:35 GMT -5
Wow people think things through too much. Hotness is hotness.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Nov 4, 2010 12:22:59 GMT -5
Wow people think things through too much. Hotness is hotness. Dude it's not like Nick is sitting there thinking "I don't think I should find this attractive, therefore I don't." Things have either revved his engine in the past or they haven't and he's just observing his own tendencies and analyzing them in retrospect. People do that all the time...analyze their emotions retrospectively, while in the moment it was strictly an impulse. As for Artie's comment, there's more to say about the ?hot? girl than Hinder's music. That said, given who they are, this is the perfect song for them. It's exactly who they want to be, and as much as I despise them, this is their best representation of themselves that they've put forth thus far.
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Post by mcbrearty on Nov 4, 2010 13:07:11 GMT -5
Hinder are tryig too hard to be Aersomith or Guns N' Roses but that era is long gone. Playing that sort of music is fine but trying to live that life and mimic those bands is dumb.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Nov 4, 2010 21:14:30 GMT -5
A bit surprised this isn't doing anything on Alternative yet.
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Post by Devin on Nov 5, 2010 13:46:27 GMT -5
A bit surprised this isn't doing anything on Alternative yet. Really? I don't think "All-American Nighmare" if reached Top 15 on active, and it's not like Hinder's a staple alternative artist. So it'll probably do something on alternative by the time this gets to Top 10 or even Top 5. By the way, their only alternative hit was "Lips of an Angel", which is understandable, but this isn't an alternative song. For crying out loud, "Use Me" only reached #23 I think on alternative, so do the math.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Nov 5, 2010 22:41:45 GMT -5
I would think it would hit at least Top 40 based on how fast Use Me shot up, even though it ended up stalling like 3 weeks later.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Nov 6, 2010 5:20:32 GMT -5
This song will go top 30 on alternative; Its run should occur in parallel to its active run in a similar way to 10 Years, My Darkest Days, and Saving Abel. It'll get there, but it's probably gonna crack the top 10 on active before we see it make a move on alt.
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Post by Devin on Nov 6, 2010 8:34:18 GMT -5
I would think it would hit at least Top 40 based on how fast Use Me shot up, even though it ended up stalling like 3 weeks later. "Use Me" only started strong on alternative because it was coming off "Lips of an Angel". It stalled later because people realized that it wasn't really alternative material. "Use Me" charted similar to "Too Drunk..." by Buckcherry, which only started charting on alternative for the same reasons. Then Buckcherry's next album's lead single, "All Night Long", failed to even make a scratch on alternative, although it went Top 10 on active. So I think "All-American Nightmare" will chart similar to "Use Me" but end up peaking lower on both formats. Peak Predictions: #6 Active #29/32 Alternative ^ Either one. Depends on if songs go recurrent, lose bullets, blah blah blah, and makes it to Top 30 by fluke.
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Post by mcbrearty on Nov 6, 2010 8:40:12 GMT -5
"Use Me" is much better than this I think.
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Post by lockebox on Nov 6, 2010 18:50:58 GMT -5
"Use Me" is much better than this I think. Hell no. That song was terrible.
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Post by lockebox on Nov 9, 2010 12:21:50 GMT -5
Top 10 - Active
13 10 HINDER - All American Nightmare 939 825 114 2.355
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Nov 9, 2010 13:32:56 GMT -5
I wonder if this album will have similar chart performances of their singles as their last album.
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Post by pen on Nov 9, 2010 13:34:08 GMT -5
One can only hope.
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Post by mcbrearty on Nov 10, 2010 14:09:08 GMT -5
"Use Me" is much better than this I think. Hell no. That song was terrible. Use Me was nothing great but its a much better song than this, to me anyway.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Nov 10, 2010 14:16:36 GMT -5
I'll put another vote in for All-American Nightmare being the less terrible of the two songs.
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Post by rockmaniac on Nov 11, 2010 8:12:29 GMT -5
music video
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Post by Devin on Nov 11, 2010 13:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by mcbrearty on Nov 11, 2010 14:50:06 GMT -5
Sweet video.
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Post by Devin on Nov 12, 2010 9:55:58 GMT -5
Is it the same female from the album cover? Yes, Artie, it's the same female. Her name is Jesse Lee Denning.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Nov 14, 2010 18:48:16 GMT -5
Top 50 on Alternative:
52 49 HINDER All American Nightmare 118 110 8 0.193
Lol, not a very promising start.
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Post by rockmaniac on Dec 7, 2010 9:52:43 GMT -5
#1 iTunes Rock album top 5 overall
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Post by rockmaniac on Dec 8, 2010 17:00:56 GMT -5
album's projected to sell 25-30K
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Dec 10, 2010 5:00:51 GMT -5
album's projected to sell 25-30K to be honest i didn't expect that sales, extreme behavior peaked at #6 (mainly because of lips of an angel's success, i know it wasn't first week position) and take it to the limit debuted at #4 (peak position), well this one is going to debut way lower since the top 20 album will be around 50k. another interesting thing is that "the life" is the only other song from the album that is currently in the itunes top 200 songs, 2nd single?? definitely has the CHR/POP sound taste
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Dec 10, 2010 9:42:54 GMT -5
These guys are pretty much on their way out.
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Post by lockebox on Dec 10, 2010 13:08:35 GMT -5
I think it's a bit premature to say they're on their way out, considering "All American Nightmare" looks like hitting Active's top 5. A successful follow-up single could help re-cement their place as a big player. I doubt that happens, though.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Dec 10, 2010 15:01:25 GMT -5
Considering they pulled 9 top 40s from their first two albums, I'm not sure they'll find much resistance from radio to play the follow-ups.
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Post by pen on Dec 10, 2010 20:25:46 GMT -5
Considering they pulled 9 top 40s from their first two albums, I'm not sure they'll find much resistance from radio to play the follow-ups. You mean top 40 on Active, right? Do bear in mind that the singles from their second album did 3, 32, 16, and 37 respectively. Other than the first single, which was expected, none of them really burned up the charts like the first album's cuts did.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Dec 12, 2010 12:22:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I was going from Nielsen Active airplay. I never implied they'd score multiple #1s from this album, especially since I haven't heard it yet. I only meant they're becoming a hard rock / pop metal staple for radio.
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Post by pen on Dec 12, 2010 20:00:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I was going from Nielsen Active airplay. I never implied they'd score multiple #1s from this album, especially since I haven't heard it yet. I only meant they're becoming a hard rock / pop metal staple for radio. Right, I know what you meant, and if you read what I said, then my point is that their last album mostly tanked singleswise, so they are hardly remaining a staple.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Dec 13, 2010 11:06:08 GMT -5
And that's kinda why I said becoming a staple, not remaining one.
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