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Post by renfield75 on Jun 21, 2010 15:30:37 GMT -5
Oh wow, I didn't know it hit #5, how did I miss that. I thought it stalled at #6, that's cool! Now I'm not so upset that her airplay is on the decline, top 5 on the Hot 100 was better than what I thought "Alejandro" would ever achieve. There were some calculation errors and the Hot 100 was updated on Friday. That shifted "Alejandro" to #5 instead of #6, and pushed Ke$ha down to #6. Check last week's hot 100 thread, there were a few changes (but the "Alejandro" switch was probably the biggest, since that placed it in the top 5).
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Post by sghosal22 on Jun 21, 2010 15:48:41 GMT -5
4. DRAKE - Find Your Love: 87.798 (+ 2.127) £
and its #6 on iTunes!
WOW
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Post by kingofpain on Jun 21, 2010 16:28:13 GMT -5
Wow thanks for the info! I didn't realize there were last minute changes, I thought for a minute l had lost my mind coz I certainly would have remembered GaGa hitting #5! Do you know what the miscalculations were?? This doesn't happen very often...?
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Post by jebsib on Jun 21, 2010 17:44:02 GMT -5
The miscalculations don't happen very often. If memory serves this is only the second time it has happened and the changes are always minimal. This is the trouble with the internet age of instant chart info released to the public versus the age of printed charts.
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Post by bybkt on Jun 21, 2010 18:10:04 GMT -5
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1. USHER - OMG f/will. i. am: 146.232 (+ 0.087) 2. B.O.B - Airplanes f/Hayley Williams: 114.984 (+ 0.573) 3. KATY PERRY - California Gurls f/Snoop Dogg: 110.617 (+ 2.034) 4. DRAKE - Find Your Love: 90.077 (+ 2.279) 5. KE$HA - Your Love Is My Drug: 86.147 (- 0.346) 6. TAIO CRUZ - Break Your Heart f/Ludacris: 82.481 (- 1.930) 7. LADY GAGA - Alejandro: 79.207 (- 0.229) 8. LADY ANTEBELLUM - Need You Now : 77.348 (- 0.790) ▲ 9. B.O.B - Nothin' On You f/Bruno Mars: 76.891 (- 1.364) ▼ 10. TRAIN - Hey, Soul Sister: 74.452 (- 0.938) 11. ALICIA KEYS - Unthinkable (I'm Ready): 67.998 (+ 0.333) 12. TRAVIE MCCOY - Billionaire f/Bruno Mars: 61.839 (+ 1.535) 13. THE SCRIPT - Breakeven: 57.697 (- 0.206) 14. LA ROUX - Bulletproof: 57.135 (+ 0.533) 15. RIHANNA - Rude Boy: 54.342 (- 0.510) 16. MICHAEL BUBLE - Haven't Met You Yet: 54.311 (- 0.326) 17. MIRANDA LAMBERT - The House That Built Me: 52.782 (- 0.333) 18. JASON ALDEAN - Crazy Town: 52.336 (+ 0.184) 19. BRAD PAISLEY - Water: 51.711 (+ 0.574) ▲ 20. JASON DERULO - In My Head Billboard Charts: 50.762 (- 0.546) ▼
MIKE POSNER - Cooler Than Me: 48.076 (+ 1.146) LUKE BRYAN - Rain Is A Good Thing: 46.508 (+ 0.475) CLAY WALKER - She Won't Be Lonely Long: 45.765 (+ 0.570) USHER - There Goes My Baby: 43.681 (+ 0.418) DRAKE - Over: 43.161 (- 0.700) CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Undo It: 41.444 (+ 0.322) ADAM LAMBERT - Whataya Want From Me = 40.720 (- 0.368) BLACK EYED PEAS - Rock That Body: 39.965 (- 0.234) NICKI MINAJ - Your Love: 36.329 (+ 0.855) REBA - I Keep On Lovin' You: 35.518 (+ 0.305) JERROD NIEMANN - Lover, Lover: 34.686 (+ 0.391) KEITH URBAN - I'm In: 33.719 (+ 0.207) YOUNG JEEZY - Lose My Mind f/Plies: 32.857 (+ 0.155) CIARA - Ride f/Ludacris: 29.603 (+ 0.849) MARTINA MCBRIDE - Wrong Baby Wrong: 29.372 (- 0.295) DJ KHALED - All I Do Is Win f/T-Pain: 29.277 (- 0.107) SHONTELLE - Impossible: 29.210 (+ 0.290) LEE BRICE - Love Like Crazy: 28.804 (+ 0.461) JASON DERULO - Ridin' Solo: 27.707 (+ 1.399) USHER - Hey Daddy (Daddy's Home): 27.197 NICKELBACK - This Afternoon: 26.893 (- 0.140) LUDACRIS - Sex Room f/Trey Songz: 24.758 (- 0.095) EMINEM - Not Afraid: 24.130 (+ 0.332) DIDDY-DIRTY MONEY - Hello Good Morning: 24.076 (+ 0.295) JUSTIN BIEBER - Somebody To Love: 24.039 (+ 0.322) MILEY CYRUS - Can't Be Tamed: 21.990 (- 0.838) COLBIE CAILLAT - I Never Told You: 21.764 (+ 0.070) T.I. - Got Your Back f/Keri Hilson: 20.719 (+ 0.528) JOHN MAYER - Half Of My Heart: 20.411 (+ 0.096) ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - I Like It f/Pitbull: 18.588 (+ 1.269) 3OH!3 - My First Kiss f/Ke$ha: 17.959 (+ 0.307) FANTASIA - Bittersweet: 16.057 (+ 0.020) DAVID GUETTA & CHRIS WILLIS - Gettin Over You f/Fergie/LMFAO: 15.211 (+ 0.546) TRAIN - If It's Love: 14.007 (+ 0.257) NE-YO - Beautiful Monster: 13.567 (+ 0.515) ROB THOMAS - Mockingbird: 13.145 (+ 0.141) TAIO CRUZ - Dynamite: 12.950 (+ 0.995) EMINEM - Love The Way You Lie f/Rihanna: 12.800 (+ 1.848) PINK - Glitter In The Air: 12.796 (+ 0.360) TIMBALAND - If We Ever Meet Again f/Katy: 11.985 (- 0.506) SHINEDOWN - The Crow & The Butterfly: 9.894 (- 0.202) DRAKE - Miss Me f/Lil Wayne: 9.790 (+ 0.265) JACK JOHNSON - You And Your Heart: 8.685 (+ 0.196) BRANDON FLOWERS - Crossfire: 3.148 (+ 0.137)
PARAMORE - The Only Exception: 7.532 (+ 0.206) AVENGED SEVENFOLD - Nightmare: 6.566 (+ 0.106) MIRANDA COSGROVE - Kissin U: 6.284 (+ 0.314) KRIS ALLEN - The Truth: 3.752 (+ 0.242) ADAM LAMBERT - If I Had You: 2.435 (+ 0.063) RIHANNA - Rockstar 101 f/Slash: 1.349 (+ 0.062) CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Woo Hoo: 0.189 (+ 0.027) ESMEE DENTERS - Love Dealer: 0.076 SHAKIRA - Waka Waka (This Time For...: 0.015 SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Round & Round: 0
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Post by bruno on Jun 21, 2010 19:00:23 GMT -5
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Round & Round: 0 LOL! I hope it gets some airplay soon! I love that song!
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Post by Alxmrqz on Jun 21, 2010 19:12:33 GMT -5
SHAKIRA - Waka Waka (This Time For...: 0.015 LOL Where is this getting spins?
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Post by Francesa On The FAN on Jun 21, 2010 21:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by kingofpain on Jun 21, 2010 21:54:52 GMT -5
Wow Brandon went solo? Are The Killers done?
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Post by dbt88 on Jun 22, 2010 12:49:47 GMT -5
SHAKIRA - Waka Waka (This Time For...: 0.015 LOL Where is this getting spins? WHERE SWAY PROBABLY LIVES
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Post by felipe on Jun 22, 2010 15:15:12 GMT -5
Lowest peaking in sales, airplay, Pop radio... Hot 100 peaks are just a part of the song's success. Paparazzi was bigger than LoveGame and Alejandro, despite the lower peak. Alejandro has a higher spin-peak than LoveGame on Pop radio so just because there are 4 other massive singles on the radio right now blocking it from achieving a higher chart position doesn't mean Alejandro was spun any less than LoveGame. In fact it's been spun much more. Sales remain to be seen. Alej needs about 1m more to surpass LG. Alej > LG (even at this point) But didn't LG stay on the charts longer before starting to lose airplay?
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Post by Choco on Jun 22, 2010 15:26:08 GMT -5
Yep, also LG topped the Pop chart with less stations, so of course it had less spins.
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Post by bybkt on Jun 22, 2010 15:45:40 GMT -5
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1. USHER - OMG f/will. i. am: 146.425 (+ 0.193) 2. B.O.B - Airplanes f/Hayley Williams: 116.051 (+ 1.067) 3. KATY PERRY - California Gurls f/Snoop Dogg: 112.233 (+ 1.616) 4. DRAKE - Find Your Love: 92.153 (+ 2.076) 5. KE$HA - Your Love Is My Drug: 85.590 (- 0.557) 6. TAIO CRUZ - Break Your Heart f/Ludacris: 80.949 (- 1.532) 7. LADY GAGA - Alejandro: 78.362 (- 0.845) 8. LADY ANTEBELLUM - Need You Now : 76.671 (- 0.677) 9. B.O.B - Nothin' On You f/Bruno Mars: 74.866 (- 2.025) 10. TRAIN - Hey, Soul Sister: 73.550 (- 0.902) 11. ALICIA KEYS - Unthinkable (I'm Ready): 68.213 (+ 0.215) 12. TRAVIE MCCOY - Billionaire f/Bruno Mars: 63.539 (+ 1.700) 13. THE SCRIPT - Breakeven: 57.696 (- 0.001) 14. LA ROUX - Bulletproof: 57.558 (+ 0.423) 15. MICHAEL BUBLE - Haven't Met You Yet: 54.092 (- 0.219) ▲ 16. RIHANNA - Rude Boy: 53.450 (- 0.892) ▼ 17. MIRANDA LAMBERT - The House That Built Me: 52.499 (- 0.283) 18. JASON ALDEAN - Crazy Town: 52.328 (- 0.008) 19. BRAD PAISLEY - Water: 51.872 (+ 0.161) 20. JASON DERULO - In My Head Billboard Charts: 50.007 (- 0.755)
MIKE POSNER - Cooler Than Me: 49.705 (+ 1.629) LUKE BRYAN - Rain Is A Good Thing: 46.711 (+ 0.203) CLAY WALKER - She Won't Be Lonely Long: 45.847 (+ 0.082) USHER - There Goes My Baby: 45.180 (+ 1.499) DRAKE - Over: 42.434 (- 0.727) CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Undo It: 41.888 (+ 0.444) ADAM LAMBERT - Whataya Want From Me = 40.526 (- 0.194) BLACK EYED PEAS - Rock That Body: 39.728 (- 0.237) NICKI MINAJ - Your Love: 37.319 (+ 0.990) REBA - I Keep On Lovin' You: 35.877 (+ 0.359) JERROD NIEMANN - Lover, Lover: 35.299 (+ 0.613) KEITH URBAN - I'm In: 33.710 (- 0.009) YOUNG JEEZY - Lose My Mind f/Plies: 32.979 (+ 0.104) CIARA - Ride f/Ludacris: 30.451 (+ 0.848) SHONTELLE - Impossible: 29.812 (+ 0.602) LEE BRICE - Love Like Crazy: 29.304 (+ 0.500) DJ KHALED - All I Do Is Win f/T-Pain: 29.216 (- 0.061) MARTINA MCBRIDE - Wrong Baby Wrong: 29.156 (- 0.216) JASON DERULO - Ridin' Solo: 28.514 (+ 0.807) NICKELBACK - This Afternoon: 26.694 (- 0.199) LUDACRIS - Sex Room f/Trey Songz: 25.409 (+ 0.651) DIDDY-DIRTY MONEY - Hello Good Morning: 24.387 (+ 0.311) EMINEM - Not Afraid: 24.317 (+ 0.187) JUSTIN BIEBER - Somebody To Love: 24.050 (+ 0.011) MILEY CYRUS - Can't Be Tamed: 21.834 (- 0.156) COLBIE CAILLAT - I Never Told You: 21.773 (+ 0.009) T.I. - Got Your Back f/Keri Hilson: 20.984 (+ 0.265) JOHN MAYER - Half Of My Heart: 20.489 (+ 0.078) ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - I Like It f/Pitbull: 18.863 (+ 0.275) 3OH!3 - My First Kiss f/Ke$ha: 18.416 (+ 0.457) FANTASIA - Bittersweet: 15.758 (- 0.299) DAVID GUETTA & CHRIS WILLIS - Gettin Over You f/Fergie/LMFAO: 15.373 (+ 0.162) EMINEM - Love The Way You Lie f/Rihanna: 14.790 (+ 1.990) TRAIN - If It's Love: 14.079 (+ 0.072) TAIO CRUZ - Dynamite: 13.826 (+ 0.876) NE-YO - Beautiful Monster: 13.774 (+ 0.207) ROB THOMAS - Mockingbird: 13.278 (+ 0.133) PINK - Glitter In The Air: 12.953 (+ 0.157) TIMBALAND - If We Ever Meet Again f/Katy: 11.488 (- 0.497) DRAKE - Miss Me f/Lil Wayne: 9.886 (+ 0.096) JACK JOHNSON - You And Your Heart: 8.720 (+ 0.035) BRANDON FLOWERS - Crossfire: 3.109 (- 0.039)
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Post by Choco on Jun 22, 2010 16:15:21 GMT -5
The fact that If We Ever Meet Again struggled to even go top 40 on the Hot 100 makes me feel frustrated. It's as radio friendly as a song can get, plus it featured Katy Perry... it had everything to be a hit, but seems that minus the Justin collabos, Timbaland isn't getting any airplay soon. Is it the final single? Looks like it.
Drake is doing great! Might get close to #1 on the Hot 100 if the airplay keeps growing.
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jun 22, 2010 16:29:42 GMT -5
EMINEM - Love The Way You Lie f/Rihanna: 14.790 (+ 1.990)
Smash IT
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Post by Bob on Jun 22, 2010 16:46:34 GMT -5
Did they change the Hot 100 formula this year, or the formula for the R&B chart? Because when Trey Songz's "I invented sex" went to #1 on the R&B chart but didn't crack the Top 40 on the Hot 100, it was the first R&B song to do that in 18 years. Since then, a three more R&B songs have done that ("It Kills Me" by Melanie Fiona, "Sex Therapy" by Robin Thicke, and "Everything to Me" by Monica).
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 22, 2010 16:53:10 GMT -5
^ No, it's just that digital sales are stronger than airplay right now and R&B hits don't generate many downloads, so they are more radio-driven.
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Post by flamez on Jun 22, 2010 18:47:43 GMT -5
CIARA - Ride f/Ludacris: 30.451 (+ 0.848) Finally this song is picking up. Wonder why they banned it on BET.
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Post by kingofpain on Jun 22, 2010 19:05:28 GMT -5
Hey I agree with "If We Ever Meet Again". I really liked the song and I thought it was catchy. I have no idea why radio let it flop. It seemed to have steady digital sales (usually stuck in the mid-20's) and if radio had given it exposure, the song would have been fairly big. It was a top 10 hit in the UK and Australia, I have no idea why US radio passed on it? It was as pop-friendly as you could get, yet radio would rather spin the same Usher, BOB, Rihanna and BEP tracks endlessly? And you wonder why mainstream top 40 in the US is stale... It's like they won't play it if it wont cross over to urban. Look how long it took for Lady Antebellum and Train to go top 10 in airplay.. They literally had to have two months of 200k+ digital sales before radio gave them steam... Meanwhile trash like Rude Boy and OMG were flogged by radio right out of the gate. It's an unfair and BS system if you ask me.
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Post by jebsib on Jun 22, 2010 19:31:24 GMT -5
Hot R&B /Hip-Hop chart is not really sales driven anymore (It is, but there are no real physical sales anymore and it doesn't employ digital info yet). It is a mix of mainstream & adult r&b radio.
So when rhythmic started playing more 'pop' fare (Gaga, Kesha) and the Hot 100 started relying on high digital sales, big r&b hits (that didn't cross over to CHR) have gotten kind of lost on the Hot 100. Rap still performs pretty well.
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Post by Spidey on Jun 22, 2010 22:09:13 GMT -5
Katy's got #1 on lock this week!
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Post by J. Rob on Jun 22, 2010 23:50:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know why digital sales aren't factored into the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop charts? It makes no sense to me.
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Post by elementd5 on Jun 23, 2010 0:31:58 GMT -5
Hey I agree with "If We Ever Meet Again". I really liked the song and I thought it was catchy. I have no idea why radio let it flop. It seemed to have steady digital sales (usually stuck in the mid-20's) and if radio had given it exposure, the song would have been fairly big. It was a top 10 hit in the UK and Australia, I have no idea why US radio passed on it? It was as pop-friendly as you could get, yet radio would rather spin the same Usher, BOB, Rihanna and BEP tracks endlessly? And you wonder why mainstream top 40 in the US is stale... It's like they won't play it if it wont cross over to urban. Look how long it took for Lady Antebellum and Train to go top 10 in airplay.. They literally had to have two months of 200k+ digital sales before radio gave them steam... Meanwhile trash like Rude Boy and OMG were flogged by radio right out of the gate. It's an unfair and BS system if you ask me. WRONG. There are only 7 seven songs in the entire Top 50 of the POP chart that get any Urban airplay. So, NEXT!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2010 8:08:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know why digital sales aren't factored into the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop charts? It makes no sense to me. Because when Billboard counted sales towards that chart there was a panel of R&B/Hip-Hop stores that carried CD singles for that genre. That way it was easy for Billboard to track sales that Urban/UAC radio airplay generated. With iTunes and other digital retailers, Billboard can't do that and the chart would be filled with faux Rap-Pop crossovers that don't represent what Urban radio plays. Plus, tracks are often given a wrong genre on iTunes, so they can't even go by that. Most R&B songs and album are labelled as "Pop" on iTunes, for example.
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Post by dcchillin10 on Jun 23, 2010 8:16:35 GMT -5
Cant wait to see the digital sales! :)
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Post by rfucom on Jun 23, 2010 8:36:49 GMT -5
CIARA - Ride f/Ludacris: 30.451 (+ 0.848) Finally this song is picking up. Wonder why they banned it on BET. fck BET.
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Post by jebsib on Jun 23, 2010 8:40:38 GMT -5
The R&B Hip Hop Songs chart has traditionally been in place to track the musical tastes of the Black community. It was easy to do with retail stores selling singles in African American communities, etc. Now they don't know WHO is purchasing Alicia Keys or Snoop Dogg digital singles on iTunes....
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Post by bks on Jun 23, 2010 9:44:36 GMT -5
Katy will easily top the chart again this week w/ 334,381 downloads and 122.5 million in airplay (+17.2 million - Greatest Gainer). #1 Hot Digital Songs, #2 Streaming (up from #8 but behind Alejandro) and #3 Hot 100 Airplay.
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Post by colson on Jun 23, 2010 9:47:25 GMT -5
Thanks, bks!
CG looks to have a long run at #1 if Eminem/Rihanna can't catch it.
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Post by rfucom on Jun 23, 2010 9:47:53 GMT -5
Katy will easily top the chart again this week w/ 334,381 downloads and 122.5 million in airplay (+17.2 million - Greatest Gainer). #1 Hot Digital Songs, #2 Streaming (up from #8 but behind Alejandro) and #3 Hot 100 Airplay. thanks bks
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