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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 28, 2010 18:29:39 GMT -5
When people start noticing that they're growing blind and fat by staring at computers all day, the CD will come back somewhat.
This generation is bound to have loads of health problems from overusage of Los Computadoras.
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Post by Honeymoon on Jul 28, 2010 19:04:56 GMT -5
^the irony lol
Anyway, I think the decline of the CD is inevitable, painful but inevitable. I feel the only thing the record industry can do is lower the price of the albums on iTunes. I will tell you right now, if the price of songs remain the same but album prices on iTunes lower then people will start buying albums again cause they get more of their money's worth. I don't get why they can't lower the price of the digital album, it costs a lot less surely to stock an album on iTunes or in a digital store than it does to stock physical albums into real brick stores.
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Post by asg4 on Jul 29, 2010 6:59:13 GMT -5
It is becoming increasingly common to hook up your IPod to a car stereo. Newer cars certainly have that function. So I think that's just a matter of time. As the Ipod generation grows older, CDs will disappear from cars. I also believe there is something to the "lesser audio quality" and "no way to back up lost music" ideas. I've heard that no back up reason before from people who buy CDs especially. Not everyone uses ipod i have never found it useful. ipod is expensive junk and doesn't even have basic features like FM. they should have an sd card slot or something.or beter still they should have a wifi connection so u can transfer all the music to ur car
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Post by weaver on Jul 29, 2010 9:26:50 GMT -5
It is becoming increasingly common to hook up your IPod to a car stereo. Newer cars certainly have that function. So I think that's just a matter of time. As the Ipod generation grows older, CDs will disappear from cars. I also believe there is something to the "lesser audio quality" and "no way to back up lost music" ideas. I've heard that no back up reason before from people who buy CDs especially. Not everyone uses ipod i have never found it useful. ipod is expensive junk and doesn't even have basic features like FM. they should have an sd card slot or something.or beter still they should have a wifi connection so u can transfer all the music to ur car Lol there's probably an app for FM radio. There's no reason though, with Pandora et.al. If you are using the phone or the touch that is. Also, you can use the USB connection in your car if you have one- I got an aftermarket unit in my car to do that. I can't actually transfer my music onto it, but I don't think we're far away from that.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 6, 2010 15:47:24 GMT -5
People probably have said that vinyl would die too but it hasn't. There'll always be a market out there for CDs as there is now for vinyl. I just wonder how long it will take until major releases are digital-only.
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Post by Houster on Aug 7, 2010 1:54:30 GMT -5
FYI, the iPod Nano includes an FM radio.
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Post by mechanicallight on Aug 7, 2010 18:50:05 GMT -5
I am an avid collector of CDs. I hate how impersonal digital albums are and I rarely purchase them unless I can't get something any other way.
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Post by popindustrialist on Aug 8, 2010 1:41:56 GMT -5
I thought we were using the term "CD" as mostly a stand-in for "full-length album".
Isn't it the full-length album that's really dying?
IMO, we're getting close to the point where a lot of acts will have hits but no full length album release. These things cost money to record and release and we do now live in an era where you can have 2 or 3 digital hit singles and not even break 100 k in the CD market.
A Taio Cruz or Jay Sean can make millions for a label if they are selling digital singles only. But add in an album and all the expenses related for the label and suddenly they are huge money losers.
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Post by David on Aug 8, 2010 12:46:24 GMT -5
People probably have said that vinyl would die too but it hasn't. There'll always be a market out there for CDs as there is now for vinyl. I just wonder how long it will take until major releases are digital-only. Exactly. Cassettes are dead, but they really do kinda suck. I also think it will be a LONG time before releases are digital only. I mean, its definitely going to be after digital sales surpass physical CD sales. I would like to see someone like Taylor Swift, who has the power to shift albums, release her album to itunes and make the entire thing "album only". Just to see what happens... I think it could be beneficial for a lot of acts to do that, and then just release singles to itunes. However, I think debut acts should just make the entire thing available. Since they typically don't sell that well anyways, and could use the exposure. However, since we still haven't shifted enough in the direction of digital, it may be too soon to test this out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2010 12:50:34 GMT -5
Even though there is still a market for vinyl it is a very small one. You might as well say that market is dead. Its certainly nowhere near the market that CDs or digital have. CDs may not die out completely but it might be a very small niche market like vinyls. People probably have said that vinyl would die too but it hasn't. There'll always be a market out there for CDs as there is now for vinyl. I just wonder how long it will take until major releases are digital-only. Exactly. Cassettes are dead, but they really do kinda suck. I also think it will be a LONG time before releases are digital only. I mean, its definitely going to be after digital sales surpass physical CD sales. I would like to see someone like Taylor Swift, who has the power to shift albums, release her album to itunes and make the entire thing "album only". Just to see what happens... I think it could be beneficial for a lot of acts to do that, and then just release singles to itunes. However, I think debut acts should just make the entire thing available. Since they typically don't sell that well anyways, and could use the exposure. However, since we still haven't shifted enough in the direction of digital, it may be too soon to test this out. Thats the same kind of industry greed that led to the death of the CD single and people turning to Napster etc
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Post by David on Aug 9, 2010 11:55:59 GMT -5
IMO, we're getting close to the point where a lot of acts will have hits but no full length album release. These things cost money to record and release and we do now live in an era where you can have 2 or 3 digital hit singles and not even break 100 k in the CD market. A Taio Cruz or Jay Sean can make millions for a label if they are selling digital singles only. But add in an album and all the expenses related for the label and suddenly they are huge money losers. It's a return to the way music was marketed until about 1966; the 45" single was the dominant medium. I don't think albums will die off entirely, but there are definitely radio-driven pop artists for whom a return to the old singles-marketing strategy is the way to go. Maybe they'll even bring back B sides and give you a second song gratis. I think we will start seeing more EP's or shorter albums. GaGa, Justin Bieber, Robyn.. have all released EP's or albums with about 8 tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2010 19:28:12 GMT -5
Who's still listening to vinyl?By Carly Costello, CNN August 11, 2010 6:50 p.m. EDT
Vinyl accounts for less than 1 percent of music sales, but it is not dying out anytime soon iReporters tell CNN why they prefer listening to vinyl in an age of digital music iReporters predict vinyl will outlive the CD Record industry veteran: "There is no sweeter sound in music than that vinyl crackle" (CNN) -- Chuck Thieroff of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, couldn't escape the Beatles in the early 1960s. He would hear singles such as "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "She Loves You" what seemed like a thousand times a day on the radio and the sound just knocked him out.
Not long after being introduced to the British sensation, Thieroff bought two Beatles albums. Before long, he was hooked on vinyl.
Since he started collecting more than 45 years ago, Thieroff has traveled the country looking for the perfect LP. He currently owns around 4,000 albums, but at one time his collection exceeded more than 25,000 records.
Vinyl records are still a big part of Thieroff's life today, as he currently sells and trades albums. He recently started writing a blog about his collecting adventures called "In Search of the Sound".
CNN asked iReporters to tell us why they love vinyl in an era of digital music. Dozens of responses came in from people of all ages. Some had been listening for decades, while others fell in love with LPs after discovering their parents' or friends' collections.
iReporter Neil Azevedo, general manager of Drastic Plastic Records, an album store and record label in Omaha, Nebraska, fell in love with vinyl at age 11 when he bought the record that he says changed his life, The Clash's self-titled album.
"MP3s are to listening to music as McDonald's is to supper," Azevedo said. "It'll keep you from starving but is in no way meant to and only approximately touches on the authentic experience of what [listening to music] can possibly be."
For many, the need for vinyl in today's world of digital music seems obsolete, but those, like Thieroff, who still listen to vinyl, say that nothing can replace the authentic sound they hear every time they place the needle on the wax.
"I just love records," Thieroff said. "I love how they feel in my hand. I love the liner notes on the back cover. I love the musty smell of a stack of LPs in somebody's game room or garage as I search for a new treasure. I love putting a record on the turntable and placing the tone arm on the vinyl as I await anxiously to hear some new song that I have never heard before or perhaps an old song that I haven't heard in years."
Vinyl might never be what is once was due to the popularity and convenience of digital music, but it's not dying anytime soon. Vinyl sales increased 33 percent from 1.8 million in 2008 to 2.5 million in 2009, according to Nielsen SoundScan. And though that accounts for less than 1 percent of all music sales, it is a record high for vinyl since Nielsen started tracking sales in 1991.
Some iReporters predict that if anything will be dying out soon, it would most likely be the CD. Vinyl aficionados say records hold more sentimental value than CDs do.
"[Vinyl] is much more tangible and personable than clicking skip or scrolling through lists of songs," said iReporter Tim McGuire from Marietta, Georgia.
Jason Krutzky, a musician from Atlanta, Georgia, joked that vinyl might even outlive the MP3.
"I've only had my MacBook Pro for a year and it's already crashed once, so, technically, my records have already outlived all my MP3s once," he said.
iReporters shared that they preferred vinyl over other music formats because of the distinct sound it produces, the participation role involved with listening to vinyl and the alluring visuals that adorn album covers.
"There is no sweeter sound in music than that vinyl crackle," says former radio promoter and A&R representative Beth Alice from New York City. "It's kind of poetic, balanced and imperfect at the same time. A digital track may have the perfect sound and timing, but it hasn't got the soul of vinyl."
Most agreed that digital music is convenient, but it's not they way the song was made to be heard. Most music was and still is recorded with analog technology and does not transfer perfectly to a digital format. And since vinyl is not instantaneous -- it takes extra time and effort to play a song -- it makes you appreciate the music more than listening on an iPod does.
Caroline Grand, a 14-year-old who recently discovered vinyl after finding a collection of records in her grandmother's attic says, "I love the experience of listening to music in the exact format in which it was originally produced ... [The artists] intended for [the songs] to be played on vinyl records, not flat MP3s. Vinyl takes more work. You have to flip it over and set the right speed. I like that user participation part."
Record collectors and listeners also enjoy the extra perks such as the artwork on the album cover or the extra poster or knickknacks that sometimes come with an album.
"I have a four-record Nitty Gritty Dirt Band greatest hits that have something like 16 panels, original poster art, rare photos, etc," comedian and musician Zach Selwyn said. "You can't get that in an MP3 or CD."
iReporter Damo Musclecar, a musician from Melbourne, Australia, found an oversized dollar poster when he bought a copy of Alice Cooper's "Billion Dollar Babies". "These are things I would never find inside a CD...I like these kinds of things. I feel I am being rewarded for making such a purchase."
But perhaps the best part about vinyl is that it's tangible, iReporters say. It is something you can hold, unlike an MP3. Because it is tangible, it holds more meaning than a file on your computer.
"Vinyl prompts you to look at the cover, turn it over, read the notes, pass it around. Has anyone ever passed me an MP3 and said 'look at this'? Not so much," said iReporter Noel Mayeske from Atlanta, Georgia.
Mayeske, a father of two, said he's making sure that his two little boys know the wonders of vinyl. He proudly shares that his son is one of the few 6-year-olds with a turntable and a collection of 45s. For Mayeske, vinyl will live on for many more years, "at least in two little boys from south Atlanta!"
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Post by Bob on Aug 11, 2010 19:40:25 GMT -5
meh. it's not about CDs dying. it's about ALBUMS dying. we're moving to EPs and singles as the driving force. especially dead are the long, 18 track albums we used to get all the time in the late 90s and early 00s. you know what i'm talking about? people like R. Kelly would release a double-CD album with like 18 tracks and 5 interludes each lol. that's over.
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Post by Devin on Aug 11, 2010 20:32:47 GMT -5
^ I like them kind of albums better,, more for your money lol. I've only bothered by buy 2 albums in my life because I prefer physical albums over digital for many reasons (quality, collwctible, booklet, credits, etc); I own over 60 which I bought over 3 years. :)
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Post by Honeymoon on Aug 12, 2010 0:45:03 GMT -5
meh. it's not about CDs dying. it's about ALBUMS dying. we're moving to EPs and singles as the driving force. especially dead are the long, 18 track albums we used to get all the time in the late 90s and early 00s. you know what i'm talking about? people like R. Kelly would release a double-CD album with like 18 tracks and 5 interludes each lol. that's over. I prefer the 10-14 track albums we get more of nowadays, less fluff
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Post by microcuts on Aug 12, 2010 0:56:27 GMT -5
It is becoming increasingly common to hook up your IPod to a car stereo. Newer cars certainly have that function. So I think that's just a matter of time. As the Ipod generation grows older, CDs will disappear from cars. I also believe there is something to the "lesser audio quality" and "no way to back up lost music" ideas. I've heard that no back up reason before from people who buy CDs especially. Not everyone uses ipod i have never found it useful. ipod is expensive junk and doesn't even have basic features like FM. they should have an sd card slot or something.or beter still they should have a wifi connection so u can transfer all the music to ur car With over 14,000 songs on my iPod, i have absolutely no need for FM radio. I can effortlessly shuffle through anything I'd ever want to listen to. Having your own portable library is expensive junk? Ok. CD's and radio can definitely die out for all I care. Digital and vinyl are the only things I buy these days.
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