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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 11:38:36 GMT -5
The 90s was trickier because airplay and sales weren't as in-line as the 80s. Harder to match up the elements and get that overall #1.
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Post by Fresh on Jul 28, 2010 11:43:20 GMT -5
Pop Songs
*** No. 1 *** "California Gurls" Katy Perry Featuring Snoop Dogg
Greatest Gainer No. 5 "Love The Way You Lie" Eminem Featuring Rihanna
Debut No. 33 "Take It Off" Ke$ha
Debut No. 40 "If It's Love" Train
Adult Contemporary
*** No. 1 *** "Hey, Soul Sister" Train
Greatest Gainer No. 15 "California Gurls" Katy Perry
Debut No. 25 "Slice" Five For Fighting
Debut No. 29 "If It's Love" Train
Debut No. 30 "Misery" Maroon 5
Adult Pop Songs
*** No. 1 *** "California Gurls" Katy Perry
Greatest Gainer No. 8 "Misery" Maroon 5
Debut No. 36 "I Like It" Enrique Iglesias Featuring Pitbull
Debut No. 37 "OMG" Usher Featuring will.i.am
Debut No. 38 "Billionaire" Travie McCoy Featuring Bruno Mars
Dance/Club Play Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Your Love Is My Drug" Ke$ha
Greatest Gainer No. 13 "I Like It" Enrique Iglesias Featuring Pitbull
Hot Shot Debut No. 44 "Ridin' Solo" Jason Derulo
Debut No. 46 "Spaceship" Benny Benassi Featuring Kelis, Apl..de.ap & Jean Baptiste
Debut No. 47 "Say I Love You" Taborah
Rap Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Your Love" Nicki Minaj
Greatest Gainer No. 12 "B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)" Rick Ross Featuring Styles P
Debut No. 24 "Fancy" Drake Featuring T.I. & Swizz Beatz
Rock Songs
*** No. 1 *** "The Crow And The Butterfly" Shinedown
Hot Shot Debut No. 39 "Impossible" Anberlin
Debut No. 43 "Porn Star Dancing" My Darkest Days
Greatest Gainer "Living In A Dream" Finger Eleven
Alternative Songs
*** No. 1 *** "In One Ear" Cage The Elephant
Greatest Gainer No. 23 "Impossible" Anberlin
Debut No. 40 "Careful" Paramore
Country Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Undo It" Carrie Underwood
Greatest Gainer No. 17 "Come Back Song" Darius Rucker
Hot Shot Debut No. 44 "Stuck Like Glue" Sugarland
Debut No. 55 "The Shape I'm In" Joe Nichols
Debut No. 57 "Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not" Thompson Square
Jazz Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Bossa Blue" Chris Standring
Greatest Gainer No. 3 "Christiane" Rick Braun
Debut No. 28 "My Cherie Amour" Rod Stewart Featuring Stevie Wonder
Debut No. 29 "Imagine" Herbie Hancock Featuring Pink, Seal, India.Arie, Jeff Beck, Konono No. 1 & Oumou Sangare
Latin Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Cuando Me Enamoro" Enrique Iglesias Featuring Juan Luis Guerra
Greatest Gainer No. 32 "I Like It" Enrique Iglesias Featuring Pitbull
Hot Shot Debut No. 49 "El Buchon" Los de Sonora
Regional Mexican Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Dime Que Me Quieres" Banda El Recodo
Greatest Gainer No. 24 "El Buchon" Los de Sonora
Debut No. 35 "Mi Necesidad" Grupo Montez De Durango
Debut No. 36 "Por Primera Vez" La Apuesta
Latin Pop Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Cuando Me Enamoro" Enrique Iglesias Featuring Juan Luis Guerra
Debut No. 29 "Estoy Enamorado" Thalia Featuring Pedro Capo
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 32 "La Complicidad" Cultura Profetica
Tropical Songs
*** No. 1 ***/Greatest Gainer "24 Horas" 24 Hrs
Debut No. 28 "Corazon Sin Cara" Prince Royce
Debut No. 36 "Es La Mujer" El Gran Combo de Puerto Rico
Debut No. 38 "Nothin' On You" B.o.B Featuring Bruno Mars
Christian Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Our God" Chris Tomlin
Greatest Gainer No. 7 "Lead Me" Sanctus Real
Hot Shot Debut No. 39 "Lift Up Your Face" Third Day
Debut No. 41 "Walking On The Stars" Group 1 Crew
Debut No. 49 "You Deliver Me" Selah
Debut No. 50 "Closer" Lara Landon
Gospel Songs
*** No. 1 *** "The Best In Me" Marvin Sapp
Debut No. 22 "Rebuild: The Remix" J Moss
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Post by wolfmother on Jul 28, 2010 11:58:41 GMT -5
The 90s was trickier because airplay and sales weren't as in-line as the 80s. Harder to match up the elements and get that overall #1. Not between 1995 to late 1998 as only physicaly released single were able to chart on the Hot 100, hence the multiple #1's debut as record companies would wait untill the airplay peak to release the single and give a greater chance for the single in question to hit the top of the charts. |
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 12:23:04 GMT -5
The 90s was trickier because airplay and sales weren't as in-line as the 80s. Harder to match up the elements and get that overall #1. Not between 1995 to late 1998 as only physicaly released single were able to chart on the Hot 100, hence the multiple #1's debut as record companies would wait untill the airplay peak to release the single and give a greater chance for the single in question to hit the top of the charts. Yes, trickier to get to # 1 in the 90s including 1995 - 1998. Otherwise the following colossal #1 airplay hits would have reached #1 on the Hot 100 easily: Water Runs Dry; I Know; I'll Be There For You; I Love You Always Forever; Missing; You Learn; You Were Meant For Me; Sunny Came Home; Semi-Charmed Life; Foolish Games; Tubthumping; Lullaby. |
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Post by legend1982 on Jul 28, 2010 12:58:46 GMT -5
I think the mid-late 80s and early 90s were a fluke. But, especially the years 1987-1990. All of those people (Paula Abdul, Janet, Michael, Whitney, Mariah, George Michael) all released projects during this time period and had multiple number 1s from the same album. But, this has never been common.
Before MJ (with Off The Wall and Thriller), artists wouldn't release more than 2-3 singles per album because they were releasing albums every year and sometimes 2 in one year (I'm looking at you Elton John and Stevie Wonder). It was uncommon to take 2-3 years between albums. So, those artists never had the opportunity to achieve that particular feat.
I don't know why 1987-1990 produced number ones that way. I suspect it has something to do with MTV. All of those artists were huge on the channel. But, that theory goes to pot when you factor in Like A Prayer, where Express Yourself nor Cherish went to #1 (which to this day I don't get). The theory also goes to pot when you factor in "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" and "Didn't We Almost Have It All" (both #1s without videos) So, basically, I don't know what I'm talking about there.
But another factor could be how radio started to change in the 80s (this theory I believe). Starting in 1981, radio starts to really split itself based on genre. It became uncommon to find country next to rock next to soul. Which is probably why R&B records like Al Green's "Let's Stay Together" or the Chi-Lites' "Oh Girl" could go to #1 on the Pop Charts in the 1970s, but music by artists like Luther Vandross and Anita Baker couldn't in the 80s. The above artists from the 87-90 period were played on both pop and R&B radio (didn't One More Try go to #1 on the R&B charts?), so whenever they released songs they were able to shoot to the top.
And we know the games that the industry played in the mid-late 90s. Although, it should be pointed out that Mariah came the closest during that period with Daydream. If Forever was made a single who knows what would've happened.
And, now because of digital, it seems almost impossible (excluding the BEPs) to score that many #1s from one album without a re-release.
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Post by wolfmother on Jul 28, 2010 13:22:34 GMT -5
Not between 1995 to late 1998 as only physicaly released single were able to chart on the Hot 100, hence the multiple #1's debut as record companies would wait untill the airplay peak to release the single and give a greater chance for the single in question to hit the top of the charts. Yes, trickier to get to # 1 in the 90s including 1995 - 1998. Otherwise the following colossal #1 airplay hits would have reached #1 on the Hot 100 easily: Water Runs Dry; I Know; I'll Be There For You; I Love You Always Forever; Missing; You Learn; You Were Meant For Me; Sunny Came Home; Semi-Charmed Life; Foolish Games; Tubthumping; Lullaby. Again wrong, it wasn't trickier, "I love you always forever" was stuck at #2 during nince weeks because at the time the #1 was the 4XPlatinum seller "Macarena". I don't know who blocked the track "Missing" but as it was a big airplay hit, it wasn't a great seller reaching gold status, in a year when single sales were rather strong. "I'll be there for you" was released as a commercial single well after the airplay pick of the song, as choosed by the record companie. Only in the first half of the 00's, being #1 on the airplay chart was synonyms of #1 on the hot 100. All this talk about how it was trickier to go to #1 in the 90's is non-sense. Execpt from 1995 to late 1998 when record companies would wait for airplay peak to release a commercial single in hope of scoring the highest peak possible by having a huge first week sales number, or wouldn't release a commercial single at all in hope to drive album sales, like for Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn" or "Don't speak" by No Doubt. |
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 13:24:46 GMT -5
Putting aside #1's, it was also common for artists to have huge unbroken top 10 strings. Everyone from Gloria Estefan, Richard Marx, Debbie Gibson, Expose, Bon Jovi, Wilson Phillips, Heart, Taylor Dayne, New Kids - you name it.... when thy were hot, it would be a strange sight to see these artists peak outside the top 10.
Then came Soundscan & BDS and it was an accomplishment if ANYBODY had more than two top 10s in a row!
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Post by kingofpain on Jul 28, 2010 13:28:35 GMT -5
Wasn't Missing blocked by Gangstas Paradise?
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 13:44:40 GMT -5
No, One Sweet Day
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 13:49:04 GMT -5
There were 231 #1 songs in the 1980s
There were 144 #1 songs in the 1990s
It was trickier to get to #1 in the 1990s
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Post by gtomaro on Jul 28, 2010 14:16:44 GMT -5
It seems everyone here likes LTWYL. I never liked it, but now I cannot stand it. It's so mediocre. Me too. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 28, 2010 14:41:58 GMT -5
There were 231 #1 songs in the 1980s There were 144 #1 songs in the 1990s It was trickier to get to #1 in the 1990s Yes because the #1's during the 90's lasted longer than at any other time period as it relates to the HOT 100. |
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Post by kingofpain on Jul 28, 2010 15:13:22 GMT -5
LOL And how many number #1's in the 2000's?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 15:34:28 GMT -5
There were 231 #1 songs in the 1980s There were 144 #1 songs in the 1990s It was trickier to get to #1 in the 1990s Yes because the #1's during the 90's lasted longer than at any other time period as it relates to the HOT 100. Exactly. You had numerous #1's in the 90's that stayed on top for 11, 13, 14, 16 weeks due to strong airplay and the Soundscan conversion. On the other hand there was a period of over 6 years in the 80's and early 90's (1985 to mid 1991) when NOT ONE #1 song stayed on top for more than 4 weeks. |
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 15:59:58 GMT -5
Only in the first half of the 00's, being #1 on the airplay chart was synonyms of #1 on the hot 100. Dude, don't rewrite history - Look at the airplay charts thru the 70s, 80s and early 90s - they almost always lined up with the top of the Hot 100. |
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 16:03:35 GMT -5
LOL And how many number #1's in the 2000's? 130 |
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Post by wolfmother on Jul 28, 2010 16:08:03 GMT -5
Only in the first half of the 00's, being #1 on the airplay chart was synonyms of #1 on the hot 100. Dude, don't rewrite history - Look at the airplay charts thru the 70s, 80s and early 90s - they almost always lined up with the top of the Hot 100. Please, you know what I meant, single sales were abismal, and for that reason the entire hot 100 almost echoed the airplay chart. |
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 16:16:31 GMT -5
On the other hand there was a period of over 6 years in the 80's and early 90's (1985 to mid 1991) when NOT one #1 song stayed on top for more than 4 weeks. God I remember that week in 1991 when Paula was # 1 for a fifth week and we were all thinking, Man, nothing has been this big since January 1985! |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2010 16:16:57 GMT -5
Yes, the conversion of the Hot 100 methodology to BDS and SoundScan resulted in much lengthier stays at No. 1, and longer stays on the chart, in general- hence Billboard compensating for that in recent all-time lists.
"Like a Virgin" spent 6 weeks on top in 1984/1985- and then the next single to spend 5 or more weeks on top didn't come until six-and-a-half years later. These were the number of new #1 hits:
1984: 19
1985: 26
1986: 30
1987: 29
1988: 32
1989: 32
1990: 25
1991: 27
And then, the numbers decreased dramatically. Since 1992, the most #1s has been 18 (2006), with a couple years seeing 17. Not sure off-hand how many there were in 2009.
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 16:23:43 GMT -5
I loved the variety. It may have been less accurate, but it was way more fun
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Post by legend1982 on Jul 28, 2010 16:49:10 GMT -5
Only in the first half of the 00's, being #1 on the airplay chart was synonyms of #1 on the hot 100. Dude, don't rewrite history - Look at the airplay charts thru the 70s, 80s and early 90s - they almost always lined up with the top of the Hot 100. Serious question, since you seem to know your facts: Where can I find airplay charts from the 70s? If I remember correctly, Billboard didn't start its chart until around 1984. I would like to know how popular songs like Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven" or Stevie Wonder's "Isn't She Lovely" (huge songs without singles) were on the radio. Thanks. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 28, 2010 17:01:44 GMT -5
Thank you, Paul Grein!!!
From his Chart Watch blog:
"Love The Way You Lie," Em's smash collabo with Rihanna, tops Hot Digital Songs for the fifth straight week. It sold 332,000 copies this week, bringing its five-week total to 1,620,000. It's only the third song in digital history to top 300K in weekly sales four times. It follows Flo Rida's "Right Round" and "California Gurls" by Katy Perry featuring Snoop Dogg.
"Not Afraid," the first song released from Recovery, tops the 2 million mark in paid downloads this week. It's his biggest solo hit since 2002's "Lose Yourself," which has sold 2,858,000 copies.
The Black Eyed Peas' "I Gotta Feeling" this week becomes the first song to top the 6 million mark in paid downloads. As it happens, the Peas also had the first song to top the 500,000 mark in paid downloads. "Let's Get It Started" topped 500K in February 2005.
I'll tell you about another digital record that the Peas set this week. "Imma Be" tops the 3 million mark in digital sales. It's the third song from The E.N.D. to reach (or exceed) that sales plateau. The E.N.D. is the first album, in its originally released form, to spawn three 3-million-selling digital hits. The expanded versions of Lady Gaga's The Fame and Rihanna's Good Girl Gone Bad also contain three 3 million-sellers, but in both cases only two of the three songs appeared on the original releases. (Gaga's "Bad Romance" was added to The Fame Monster. Rihanna's "Disturbia" was added to Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded.)
"California Gurls" by Katy Perry featuring Snoop Dogg tops the 3 million mark in paid downloads this week. It took just 11 weeks to reach this milestone, which ties Flo Rida's "Right Round" as the fastest that any song has reached 3 million in digital sales. This is Perry's third song to reach 3 million, following "I Kissed A Girl" (3,833,000) and "Hot N Cold" (4,450,000). Perry's sophomore album, Teenage Dream, is due Aug. 24. It has a very good chance of becoming her first #1 album. One Of The Boys debuted (and peaked) at #9 in June 2008. The title song, "Teenage Dream," enters Hot Digital Songs at #11 this week, with first-week sales of 84,000.
Here's the rest of the top 10 on Hot Digital Songs. Taio Cruz's "Dynamite" holds at #2 for the second week (223K), Katy Perry featuring Snoop Dogg's "California Gurls" holds at #3 for the second week (190K), Enrique Iglesias featuring Pitbull's "I Like It" jumps from #5 to #4 (183K), B.o.B featuring Hayley Williams' "Airplanes" dips from #4 to #5 (153K), Mike Posner's "Cooler Than Me" holds at #6 for the second week (137K), Travie McCoy featuring Bruno Mars' "Billionaire" holds at #7 for the second week (137K), Jason Derulo's "Ridin' Solo" holds at #8 for the sixth week (132K), Eminem's "Not Afraid" hold at #9 for the fourth week (123K) and Usher featuring will.i.am's "OMG" holds at #10 for the third week (96K).
Song Scorecard: Daniel Powter's 2006 mope classic "Bad Day" tops the 3 million mark in digital sales this week...Three hits from 2007 top the 2 million mark: Daughtry's "Home," John Mayer's "Say" and Matchbox Twenty's "How Far We've Come." It's the second 2 million digital seller for both Mayer (following 2006's "Waiting On The World To Change") and Daughtry (following 2006's "It's Not Over").
Taio Cruz and Justin Bieber each pick up their second million-selling song of 2010 this week. Cruz scores with "Dynamite." Bieber scores with "Eenie Meenie" (featuring Sean Kingston). The common thread, of course, is that Ludacris was featured on both of their previous 2010 million-sellers: "Break Your Heart" and "Baby," respectively.
A Final Thought: KIIS-FM in Los Angeles plays Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" fairly often as a recurrent. What strikes me every time I hear it is how it still sounds so vital and, well, current. The record is nearly 28 years old. It's as old as Bill Haley And His Comets' 1955 smash "(We're Gonna) Rock Around The Clock" was in December 1982 when Thriller was released. And while "Rock Around The Clock" was (and is remains) a classic, it sounds like an antique. "Billie Jean" sounds as hot and contemporary as any record on the radio. Credit for this goes to Jackson, who wrote and sang it, and to Quincy Jones, who produced it brilliantly. (Jackson has a credit as co-producer.) "Billie Jean" is closing in on sales of 2 million digital copies. As of this week, it has sold 1,931,000 digital copies.
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Post by hitseeker. on Jul 28, 2010 17:30:14 GMT -5
good for TD, it didn't have a full week of sales and without any significant airplay, it managed to sell 83k  |
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Post by Rodze on Jul 28, 2010 17:30:33 GMT -5
All Digital Songs mentioned by Grein so far:
01 Love the Way You Lie - Eminem FT. Rihanna - 332,000 / 1,620,000
02 Dynamite - Taio Cruz - 223,000 / 1,151,000
03 California Gurls - Katy Perry FT. Snoop Dogg - 190,000 / 3,010,000
04 I Like It - Enrique Iglesias FT. Pitbull - 183,000 /
05 Airplanes - B.O.B. FT. Hayley Williams - 153,000 / 2,936,000
06 Cooler Than Me - Mike Posner - 137,000 /
07 Billionaire - Travie McCoy FT. Bruno Mars - 137,000 / 1,875,000
08 Ridin' Solo - Jason DeRulo - 132,000 /
09 Not Afraid - Eminem - 123,000 / 2,007,000
10 OMG - Usher FT. will.i.am - 96,000 / 2,981,000
11 Teenage Dream - Katy Perry - 84,000 / 84,000
Your Love - Nicki Minaj - 51,000 / 376,000
Totals:
Lose Yourself - Eminem - 2,858,000
Need You Now - Lady Antebellum - 3,998,000
American Honey - Lady Antebellum - 826,000
Our Kind of Love - Lady Antebellum - 134,000
Impossible - Shontelle - 837,000
T-Shirt - Shontelle - 697,000
Hot N Cold - Katy Perry - 4,450,000
I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry - 3,833,000
I Gotta Feeling - The Black Eyed Peas - 6,000,000
Imma Be - The Black Eyed Peas - 3,000,000
Holiday - Green Day - 1,452,000
American Idiot - Green Day - 1,371,000
Jesus of Suburbia - Green Day - 204,000
Bad Day - Daniel Powter - 3,000,000
Home - Daughtry - 2,000,000
Say - John Mayer - 2,000,000
How Far We've Come - Matchbox Twenty - 2,000,000
Eenie Meenie - Sean Kingston Justin Bieber - 1,000,000
Billie Jean - Michael Jackson - 1,931,000
3 - Britney Spears - 1,975,000
Piece of Me - Britney Spears - 1,632,000
Gimme More - Britney Spears - 1,593,000
Toxic - Britney Spears - 1,429,000
If U Seek Amy - Britney Spears - 1,144,000
Break the Ice - Britney Spears - 688,000
Everytime - Britney Spears - 469,000
Radar - Britney Spears - 481,000
Baby One More Time - Britney Spears - 352,000
Anyway - Martina McBride - 481,000
Concrete Angel - Martina McBride - 424,000
Independence Day - Martina McBride - 331,000
Broken Wing - Martina McBride - 170,000
Taking Chances - Celine Dion - 455,000
It's All Coming Back to Me Now - Celine Dion - 291,000
A New Day Has Come - Celine Dion - 212,000
All By Myself - Celine Dion - 117,000
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 28, 2010 17:35:26 GMT -5
^Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 17:43:35 GMT -5
On the other hand there was a period of over 6 years in the 80's and early 90's (1985 to mid 1991) when NOT one #1 song stayed on top for more than 4 weeks. God I remember that week in 1991 when Paula was # 1 for a fifth week and we were all thinking, Man, nothing has been this big since January 1985! LOL! So do I. ;) |
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Post by jebsib on Jul 28, 2010 17:53:28 GMT -5
legend1982, You're right, Billboard didn't carry an airplay component chart until October 20, 1984. I've been following charts every week since 1981 and getting your hands on 70s airplay is pretty tricky. I'm not sure if Cashbox or Gavin has their positions online. I always used to use old Radio & Records that were stockpiled in an old radio station I used to work at. I recommend Chartboy's site for r&r peaks. www2.uta.edu/hunt/charts/chart.html prior to 1973 - including your Stevie & Zeppelin songs - we can only guess... |
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Post by fridayteenage on Jul 28, 2010 17:57:58 GMT -5
Oh Cali Girls is the first song digitally released this year to 3 mil, yes? Beating out soon-to-be-there Airplanes/OMG.
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Post by kingofpain on Jul 28, 2010 18:12:54 GMT -5
Funny how sales-wise, Airplanes and OMG are even with each other, yet OMG was the #1 hit.
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Post by legend1982 on Jul 28, 2010 18:21:38 GMT -5
legend1982, You're right, Billboard didn't carry an airplay component chart until October 20, 1984. I've been following charts every week since 1981 and getting your hands on 70s airplay is pretty tricky. I'm not sure if Cashbox or Gavin has their positions online. I always used to use old Radio & Records that were stockpiled in an old radio station I used to work at. I recommend Chartboy's site for r&r peaks. www2.uta.edu/hunt/charts/chart.html prior to 1973 - including your Stevie & Zeppelin songs - we can only guess... Thanks for the info and link. I'll check it out. |
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