carneseca
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Post by carneseca on Aug 1, 2010 22:25:14 GMT -5
Eminem is baaaaack. I love, effing love, LTWYL!!
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BlueSwan
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Post by BlueSwan on Aug 2, 2010 2:07:48 GMT -5
I can understand why older songs keep on selling, but it's hard to understand how they keep selling enough week on week on week to stay amongst the best sellers overall. People still buying "Just Dance" and "Boom Boom Pow" in those quantities? Not to mention "Don't Stop Believing" or "Lose Yourself".
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Post by BlueSwan on Aug 2, 2010 2:10:05 GMT -5
Eminem is baaaaack. I love, effing love, LTWYL!! I've been a massive Eminem fan since 1999, so I'm very happy to see him back on top. Ironically, I happen to think that LTWYL is one of his worst singles and Recovery his second worst album, while I thought Relapse was excellent (despite the accents). Still, I keep cheering for him. |
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 2, 2010 2:29:09 GMT -5
Well the only Eminem album imo that wasnt great was Encore and i even thought that was Good.
In order from release. Not order. Both SSLP and MMLP are classic albums. The Eminem Show and Recovery just miss being classics. They could get to that status. Not yet though. I think Relapse is dang good/Excellent. Regardless if in Em's mind it's not high on his list. Em is his own harshest critic.
SSLP - 5/5
MMLP - 5/5
TES - 4.5/5
Encore - 3.5/5
Relapse 4/5
Recovery 4.5/5
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 2, 2010 6:58:05 GMT -5
Well the only Eminem album imo that wasnt great was Encore and i even thought that was Good. In order from release. Not order. Both SSLP and MMLP are classic albums. The Eminem Show and Recovery just miss being classics. They could get to that status. Not yet though. I think Relapse is dang good/Excellent. Regardless if in Em's mind it's not high on his list. Em is his own harshest critic. SSLP - 5/5 MMLP - 5/5 TES - 4.5/5 Encore - 3.5/5 Relapse 4/5 Recovery 4.5/5 I have to say that I agree with Em's opinion of his last album. |
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Post by felipe on Aug 2, 2010 9:23:48 GMT -5
I can understand why older songs keep on selling, but it's hard to understand how they keep selling enough week on week on week to stay amongst the best sellers overall. People still buying "Just Dance" and "Boom Boom Pow" in those quantities? Not to mention "Don't Stop Believing" or "Lose Yourself". I don't get it either. If these people liked Boom Boom Pow why didn't they buy it one year ago instead of just now? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2010 9:35:34 GMT -5
People discovering older music for the first time happens all the time.
People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it
People could see it on a TV ad for the first time
People could see it in a movie or TV show
Not everyone gets their music exposure off the music charts
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 2, 2010 10:02:22 GMT -5
Maybe they lost it and now want to replace a lost item.
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Post by colson on Aug 2, 2010 11:37:03 GMT -5
People discovering older music for the first time happens all the time. People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it People could see it on a TV ad for the first time People could see it in a movie or TV show Not everyone gets their music exposure off the music charts As always, the voice of reason. :) |
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Post by livelikedying111 on Aug 2, 2010 12:31:27 GMT -5
C'mon, you can't blame him. I get that too, but 20,000 different people discover the song each week? it's hard to comprehend. It's interesting, though, the process of chart run - and sales after the song peaks. Is there a breakdown of this for any song to use as an example?
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Post by felipe on Aug 3, 2010 9:28:04 GMT -5
People discovering older music for the first time happens all the time. People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it People could see it on a TV ad for the first time People could see it in a movie or TV show Not everyone gets their music exposure off the music charts 20 thousand people just discovered I gotta feeling this last week? That's hard to imagine. I agree about the possibility of "People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it", but 20k decided the same week it was time to buy the song? Seems like a large number... |
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Post by pnobelysk on Aug 3, 2010 10:58:39 GMT -5
People discovering older music for the first time happens all the time. People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it People could see it on a TV ad for the first time People could see it in a movie or TV show Not everyone gets their music exposure off the music charts 20 thousand people just discovered I gotta feeling this last week? That's hard to imagine. I agree about the possibility of "People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it", but 20k decided the same week it was time to buy the song? Seems like a large number... more and more ppl get their first ipods each day and thats prbly a staple song to have on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 11:36:20 GMT -5
People discovering older music for the first time happens all the time. People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it People could see it on a TV ad for the first time People could see it in a movie or TV show Not everyone gets their music exposure off the music charts 20 thousand people just discovered I gotta feeling this last week? That's hard to imagine. I agree about the possibility of "People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it", but 20k decided the same week it was time to buy the song? Seems like a large number... Probably very few of the 20,000 know exactly how long it has been out. How many of those 20,000 would know that it has run its course on the Hot 100 and is now on the recurrent aorplay list, for example? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 11:42:06 GMT -5
Same thing happens with albums. Carrie Underwood's "Some Hearts" for an example has been out for years and week after week 5,000(give or take)people buy the 5 year old album. Some songs/albums that are high profiled just countinue to sell week after week. No explanations, they just do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 11:47:50 GMT -5
yes, Dark Side of The Moon, for example has charted for 1700 weeks and is still charting today
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Post by felipe on Aug 3, 2010 16:17:34 GMT -5
Same thing happens with albums. Carrie Underwood's "Some Hearts" for an example has been out for years and week after week 5,000(give or take)people buy the 5 year old album. Some songs/albums that are high profiled just countinue to sell week after week. No explanations, they just do. I do think there is an explanation. We might not know it, but there must be one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 16:21:40 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood's music is popular and those getting a taste of the new stuff are looping back and discovering the old?
This discovering and buying the new stuff may not be the same people who bought the old stuff
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Post by felipe on Aug 3, 2010 16:24:59 GMT -5
20 thousand people just discovered I gotta feeling this last week? That's hard to imagine. I agree about the possibility of "People may have listened to a song for a long time as well and only now decide the time is right to spend money on it", but 20k decided the same week it was time to buy the song? Seems like a large number... Probably very few of the 20,000 know exactly how long it has been out. How many of those 20,000 would know that it has run its course on the Hot 100 and is now on the recurrent aorplay list, for example? But people don't need to know it's on the recurrent airplay list to know it's been playing everywhere (radio, clubs, bars, tv) for ages. It's either: a) someone had never heard the song before until now or b) someone knows this songs and has listened to it many times but last week, after an year, they finally decided to buy it What would be another opition? With albums (or dvds, for instance) the price keeps getting lower with time, so it makes sense that some people should wait to buy it cheaper, or maybe buy it on sale, but that isn't the case with digital singles. |
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Post by felipe on Aug 3, 2010 16:28:13 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood's music is popular and those getting a taste of the new stuff are looping back and discovering the old? This discovering and buying the new stuff may not be the same people who bought the old stuff I agree with you on that. Carrie's album is relatively old, so some people might not have gotten the chance to know it (younger audiences) or are just rediscovering it now. But to me it seems just strange someone should be rediscovering I gotta feeling. Probably because the people who are buying it today already knew it since months ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 16:39:22 GMT -5
Not necessarily, for the same reason as the Carrie Underwood example or the more extreme example I gave of Pink Floyd
6 million is the total that bought the song. 6 million may not be the number that were aware of or even liked the song on the first day.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Aug 3, 2010 16:42:19 GMT -5
Is there any place that has archives for billboards:
a) hot 100 chart
b) pop airplay top 40 chart
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 16:45:11 GMT -5
billboard.biz
subscription 24.99/mo
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Post by street on Aug 3, 2010 20:19:16 GMT -5
The BEP did a concert on GMA this week. They did three or four of their biggest songs and that probably got people in the audience to download some of the older stuff.
Although I now realize this chart is from the week before they appeared on TV. :o
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2010 23:50:09 GMT -5
yes, Dark Side of The Moon, for example has charted for 1700 weeks and is still charting today An even older example: Beatles' records still sell in great quantities every year as new people in each generation discover them for the first time, and that's been going on for 40 years now. |
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