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Post by substantial on Aug 28, 2010 17:33:18 GMT -5
BS -- I want to see the medical report on "kidneys". If this was real, they would have postponed the CD. Somehow almost offing yourself and then doing normal promo a couple of weeks later doesn't sync. Shouldn't she be trying to put her life back together? Are the reasons why she did this suddenly gone? Fantasia just go away. How and why is she accountable to you? Nobody said she did permanent irrevocable damage to her kidneys...they said she did damage to them. You are not owed an explanation. What do you mean "real"? As I said, the police call, the report and Fantasia's explanation all corroborate. I just don't know how something like this could be "faked"...say it was a 'stunt' how would they know how many pills to give her before they were going to kill her for sure? Or do you think they were all willing to take that risk in the hope of snatching a few thousand more sales? What do you think the suicide note to her daughter read..."Sorry baby, I just wanted to go Gold"? Your dislike for Fantasia and incredulity that she went back to work so quickly has no baring on the authenticity of her attempt, nor her motives behind it. People throw themselves into the thing they love when they fall, it happens every day, in all types of different situations. Your judgment is indicative of a particular brand of nastiness from ill-wishers, but has no basis in fact. You, nor I, have the right to judge. Nor do we have the right to cobble together half baked theories based on hunches laced with disregard for Fantasia. Could not have said it better. Amen & amen. ;) Congrats Fantasia~!  |
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Post by David on Aug 28, 2010 17:48:51 GMT -5
I can't believe people think it was staged. Is it so hard to believe she's going through a tough time right now? Just because she has an album coming out doesn't mean she's some happy, skipping down the streets Mary Poppins. If its that unfathomable that she could possibly be depressed right now, then you're sadly mistaken.
She had an affair ran all over the tabloids. Fantasia hasn't exactly had an easy life. Just because you gain fame doesn't mean you suddenly gain happiness. I don't understand why celebrities are somehow always doing something for fame. Is it that hard to believe she really attempted suicide? Call it coincidence if you must, but it wasn't staged.
I also agree with yoKC on this one 100%. Risking your own life just to have a big opening week is far more unrealistic than it just being a coincidence.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 18:06:39 GMT -5
Most non-celebrities without albums to promote who try to commit suicide would be spending time in the hospital under supervision to make sure that there isn't another attempt, rather than rushing out to do promotional appearances for the album
Coincidence or not, it seems to raise a valid question about the timing.
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Post by MaterialGirl on Aug 28, 2010 18:27:57 GMT -5
No offense to Fantasia and I'm not saying it was staged...BUT I can't believe people are making it seem like it's impossible for it to be staged or that it's totally inhuman for someone to think it is. Labels are desperate.
I'm not too sure about the whole ordeal myself, and at the end of the day we will never know anyway.
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Post by David on Aug 28, 2010 20:15:13 GMT -5
Most non-celebrities without albums to promote who try to commit suicide would be spending time in the hospital under supervision to make sure that there isn't another attempt, rather than rushing out to do promotional appearances for the album Coincidence or not, it seems to raise a valid question about the timing. It was reported on the 10th (13 days before the GMA appearance) that she she was rushed to the hospital. It was reported on the 12th that she had left the hospital. So I wouldn't say she rushed out to promote the album. How long should someone stay in the hospital for an overdose? And no, not all people are put on "suicide watch" after 1 attempt. We live in America where we happen to have idiots in hospitals as well. So, I can't really buy that. I have known people who overdosed and were out a couple days later, and were only on "suicide watch" by their family. There's a lot of other aspects that go into putting someone on watch, and they may have thought she wasn't a big risk, but just "had a bad day". Like I said, its not our call what the doctors decided to do, whether it was a good or bad decision is irrelevant. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 20:22:14 GMT -5
Fantasia Barrino on Good Morning America - Was suicide attempt a publicity stunt? (Video) August 24, 2010 10:49 PM EDT Fantasia Barrino seems to be doing SO much better since trying to kill herself two weeks ago. The American Idol winner took a bottle of aspirin and some sleeping agent pills and was rushed to the hospital in what was a speculated suicide attempt. In her recent interview with VH1, she admitted that she tried to kill herself. However, just a couple of days after the incident, Barrino was outside of her house with her married boyfriend, Antwaun Cook, and a camera crew. Huh. That's weird. And today? Barrino hit up Good Morning America for some chit-chatting. Evidently the show must go on. Now people are wondering if Barrino's suicide attempt was a publicity stunt. Most people who attempt suicide (and are serious about it) succeed. If they don't succeed, they are usually seeking medical treatment ... or forced to do so. Also, Barrino has a daughter - shouldn't child services be involved? This evidently all stemmed from Barrino's affair with Cook, who is married. His wife is threatening a lawsuit against Barrino, and all of that jazz put her over the edge. But now she's back, on television, doing interviews, and acting like she's back on top. Really? Granted this is an opinion based article but it raises a lot of interesting questions All I am saying is she got extra publicity from the timing of this "event" and extra sales for her album that would not have otherwise been there. |
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Post by CookyMonzta on Aug 28, 2010 20:25:43 GMT -5
Most non-celebrities without albums to promote who try to commit suicide would be spending time in the hospital under supervision to make sure that there isn't another attempt, rather than rushing out to do promotional appearances for the album Coincidence or not, it seems to raise a valid question about the timing. No offense to Fantasia and I'm not saying it was staged...BUT I can't believe people are making it seem like it's impossible for it to be staged or that it's totally inhuman for someone to think it is. Labels are desperate. I'm not too sure about the whole ordeal myself, and at the end of the day we will never know anyway. Nice try, you two; but you completely and conveniently forgot what triggered her suicide attempt: It was a court document, filed by Paula Cook, regarding the divorce proceedings between herself and her soon-to-be-ex-husband Antwaun. The report was released to the public, and Tasia's name was on it. The media got a hold of it, and she was labeled a homewrecker (never mind the fact that she wasn't the first, and far from the worst) and rode with it, and there was talk that Paula might sue her (which she could under North Carolina law). Fragile as she always has been, this was pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. I guarantee you that she wasn't even thinking about the album when she swallowed all those pills, because there were very good reviews out there even before she lost it. The fact that she has a big family made it easier for her to go through with it, because she thought her daughter would be well taken care of if she had in fact died. Do you realize you are engaging in an exercise in total futility? Diva D has it right: Nobody risks their life for a big opening week. What good would it have done to go through with that, all for sales, and she ended up dead? She obviously wanted to go quietly and slowly. She obviously didn't want anyone to find her until she was dead. Why else would she hide in the closet? The only reason she is back on the road is because, as it seems to me, in her mind, singing is her therapy. She was really terrified 3 years ago, when she thought the operation on her throat (for a tumor near her vocal cords) would bring that to an end. Again, nice try; but she would have done this anyway, with or without an album about to be shipped. I thought she was fragile enough to have had the idea in her head when she was about to lose one of her houses. Or did people forget what a bumpy road her life was on before she got to the championship 6 years ago? And by the way, the thought that Paula Cook could sue her, with the end result being that she could lose both her homes and then some, really had to have brought a nervous breakdown. Publicity stunt? Only in your wildest dreams. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 20:37:41 GMT -5
LOL- If her album were released a month from now or even a month ago fine
The timing is a little too convenient.
And as the article I posted says, if it was a true suicide attempt, what does child services says about her child? Wouldn't the welfare of her child be taken into account here, by state agencies?
I ultimately don't care if it was staged or not. The convenient timing of the "suicide attempt" got her some extra publicity and a nice little bump in album sales that would not have been there otherwise.
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Post by CookyMonzta on Aug 28, 2010 20:41:31 GMT -5
Convenience? Nice try. It is simple coincidence. The argument that she did it to draw attention to her album is the thing that is far more convenient than her suicide attempt itself. Again, nobody kills themselves for a few thousand more sales. I ultimately don't care if it was staged or not. The convenient timing of the "suicide attempt" got her some extra publicity and a nice little bump in album sales that would not have been there otherwise. Obviously you do care if it was staged, since you continually imply convenience and put the words suicide attempt in quotation marks. Indeed. And then the phony argument would have been that she did it as a publicity stunt to jump start her sagging sales or to put her back in the spotlight, now that J-Hud's acting career (not to mention a tragedy of her own) has had her in the spotlight more than once. I do know how to play chess, yo.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2010 21:00:57 GMT -5
Suspected Suicide Attempt by Fantasia Barrino Would Be Act of Selfishness
If Fantasia Barrino indeed attempted suicide, then this was incredibly selfish. And it's hard to believe that taking "a bottle of aspirin" was an accident. Fantasia Barrio has a 9-year-old daughter, and for a mother of a young child to attempt suicide is just plain downright selfish.
I'll probably get backlash from people chastising me for not being more sympathetic, and for not understanding that a suicide attempt, even by someone as successful as Fantasia Barrino, is a sign of severe depression; mental illness at work.
However, there are multiple reasons for making a suicide attempt. Severe, clinical depression is one reason. But there are other reasons; for example, were Jim Jones' followers suffering from clinical depression? Were the Japanese Kamikaze suffering from clinical depression? Were the Columbine killers suffering from clinical depression?
Fantasia Barrino has had a walk in the park compared to another "American Idol" singing sensation: Jennifer Hudson. I compare these two because both have similar voices; both appeared on "American Idol," and both even look similar. But here's another reason I compare Fantasia to Jennifer: Jennifer has been to a greater hell than Fantasia could ever imagine, what with losing two family members to murder. Then there's been the weight struggles. Yet Jennifer apparently has not attempted suicide.
Though Fantasia Barrino has had some rough times lately (e.g., being accused of sleeping with a married man), you'd think that being a mother to a young child would be enough to sustain Fantasia's desire to live.
Who takes a "bottle of aspirin" for a headache? No, people take a "bottle of aspirin" to kill themselves. And Fantasia Barrino was super selfish for not thinking about what this would do to her daughter. It's only luck that the singer will live: There's a lot of speculation that this was a botched suicide attempt.
A bottle of aspirin, plus a sleep aid. What ELSE could this have been? Fantasia Barrino may not have a medical degree, but she certainly is educated enough to know that even for the meanest headache, you take ONLY the recommended dose of aspirin. You don't take a whole bottle.
Based on that tidbit of information alone, it's very easy to conclude that Fantasia Barrino attempted suicide, and wasn't even considering how this would destroy her young daughter.
My message to Fantasia Barrino is this: When the going gets rough, hug your daughter and imagine what her life would be like if she grew up knowing that her mother killed herself.
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Post by pnobelysk on Aug 28, 2010 21:51:22 GMT -5
*Usher Versus (LaFace/JLG) 40-45k ouch. could be worse. that ep idea is a lot different than a normal release. many ppl rnt used to it |
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Post by CookyMonzta on Aug 28, 2010 23:45:59 GMT -5
Suspected Suicide Attempt by Fantasia Barrino Would Be Act of SelfishnessIf Fantasia Barrino indeed attempted suicide, then this was incredibly selfish. And it's hard to believe that taking "a bottle of aspirin" was an accident. Fantasia Barrio has a 9-year-old daughter, and for a mother of a young child to attempt suicide is just plain downright selfish. I'll probably get backlash from people chastising me for not being more sympathetic, and for not understanding that a suicide attempt, even by someone as successful as Fantasia Barrino, is a sign of severe depression; mental illness at work. However, there are multiple reasons for making a suicide attempt. Severe, clinical depression is one reason. But there are other reasons; for example, were Jim Jones' followers suffering from clinical depression? Were the Japanese Kamikaze suffering from clinical depression? Were the Columbine killers suffering from clinical depression? Fantasia Barrino has had a walk in the park compared to another "American Idol" singing sensation: Jennifer Hudson. I compare these two because both have similar voices; both appeared on "American Idol," and both even look similar. But here's another reason I compare Fantasia to Jennifer: Jennifer has been to a greater hell than Fantasia could ever imagine, what with losing two family members to murder. Then there's been the weight struggles. Yet Jennifer apparently has not attempted suicide. Though Fantasia Barrino has had some rough times lately (e.g., being accused of sleeping with a married man), you'd think that being a mother to a young child would be enough to sustain Fantasia's desire to live. Who takes a "bottle of aspirin" for a headache? No, people take a "bottle of aspirin" to kill themselves. And Fantasia Barrino was super selfish for not thinking about what this would do to her daughter. It's only luck that the singer will live: There's a lot of speculation that this was a botched suicide attempt. A bottle of aspirin, plus a sleep aid. What ELSE could this have been? Fantasia Barrino may not have a medical degree, but she certainly is educated enough to know that even for the meanest headache, you take ONLY the recommended dose of aspirin. You don't take a whole bottle. Based on that tidbit of information alone, it's very easy to conclude that Fantasia Barrino attempted suicide, and wasn't even considering how this would destroy her young daughter. My message to Fantasia Barrino is this: When the going gets rough, hug your daughter and imagine what her life would be like if she grew up knowing that her mother killed herself. Source: Where's the source? And this really isn't adding anything to the discussion. She did text one of her friends while she was in the hospital, about having done something really stupid. It only goes to prove once again that this was no publicity stunt. Someone would really have to be callous to risk leaving a child behind for that purpose. And again, she is no stuntwoman. Once more, she ain't making Beyoncé money; so, she can't afford to take time out or hire a traveling psychologist. She's out there working for 2 people (herself and her daughter), assuming the freeloaders have been successfully pacified and neutralized by now. I would have to think that it could be February or March (after the Grammy Awards) before her next significant downtime period. Then she can sit down with a doctor and sort things out. Right now, the music is her only therapy. I think I said it once, and I'll say it again: Her suicide solution was made easier by the fact that she has a large family. If she had no one to look after her daughter, it would have been that much more selfish of her to even consider it. Is it just my imagination, or is there anyone else who thinks that maybe some people (the mainstream and tabloid media, for one) twisted her mind with the idea that she was somehow a bad mother for having ended up in a situation where she almost lost a house, and on top of that, getting in a relationship with a guy who as it turned out was still legally married (and instead of blaming him, like they rightfully blamed Tiger, they blame her); and in all that turmoil she bought it hook, line and sinker, and ended up believing it herself, enough to push her over the edge? |
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Post by Nadia on Aug 28, 2010 23:47:42 GMT -5
Go Fantasia :)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 7:23:25 GMT -5
Good news: the top ten this week will sell more than the same week last year.
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Post by slw84 on Aug 29, 2010 8:51:25 GMT -5
Suspected Suicide Attempt by Fantasia Barrino Would Be Act of SelfishnessIf Fantasia Barrino indeed attempted suicide, then this was incredibly selfish. And it's hard to believe that taking "a bottle of aspirin" was an accident. Fantasia Barrio has a 9-year-old daughter, and for a mother of a young child to attempt suicide is just plain downright selfish. I'll probably get backlash from people chastising me for not being more sympathetic, and for not understanding that a suicide attempt, even by someone as successful as Fantasia Barrino, is a sign of severe depression; mental illness at work. However, there are multiple reasons for making a suicide attempt. Severe, clinical depression is one reason. But there are other reasons; for example, were Jim Jones' followers suffering from clinical depression? Were the Japanese Kamikaze suffering from clinical depression? Were the Columbine killers suffering from clinical depression? Fantasia Barrino has had a walk in the park compared to another "American Idol" singing sensation: Jennifer Hudson. I compare these two because both have similar voices; both appeared on "American Idol," and both even look similar. But here's another reason I compare Fantasia to Jennifer: Jennifer has been to a greater hell than Fantasia could ever imagine, what with losing two family members to murder. Then there's been the weight struggles. Yet Jennifer apparently has not attempted suicide. Though Fantasia Barrino has had some rough times lately (e.g., being accused of sleeping with a married man), you'd think that being a mother to a young child would be enough to sustain Fantasia's desire to live. Who takes a "bottle of aspirin" for a headache? No, people take a "bottle of aspirin" to kill themselves. And Fantasia Barrino was super selfish for not thinking about what this would do to her daughter. It's only luck that the singer will live: There's a lot of speculation that this was a botched suicide attempt. A bottle of aspirin, plus a sleep aid. What ELSE could this have been? Fantasia Barrino may not have a medical degree, but she certainly is educated enough to know that even for the meanest headache, you take ONLY the recommended dose of aspirin. You don't take a whole bottle. Based on that tidbit of information alone, it's very easy to conclude that Fantasia Barrino attempted suicide, and wasn't even considering how this would destroy her young daughter. My message to Fantasia Barrino is this: When the going gets rough, hug your daughter and imagine what her life would be like if she grew up knowing that her mother killed herself. Source: Where's the "Beyonce didn't read" gif when you need it...what does this have to do with fantasia debuting at #2, though. Regardless of your point of view, this album is selling. Was her record label supposed to push it back the situation did happen two weeks before album release  Either way, I wish Katy could pull a strong 250 to 300k. I want her to go double platinum...we will see how the holiday sales pick up. Glad she is going to get her first #1 album but with sales like that will she pull a second week? I'm not so sure now.  |
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Post by speeddial on Aug 29, 2010 9:11:04 GMT -5
People buy albums because they like the artist. Were the 1 million + viewers of Fantasia's reality show, which aired earlier this year, also just watching because they felt bad for her? Why is it so hard to believe that Fantasia has a solid fanbase? The drama surrounding her life may have caused some fans - who may not be hardcore fans - to realize that her album was being released. I'll grant you that. But that does not mean that those people were just buying because they thought, "poor Tasia." With the economy being the way it is, why would anyone - let alone 100,000 people - purchase a CD out of only sympathy? Never said Fantasia did not have a fanbase This "suicide attempt" conveniently timed for the release of her album gives her the publicity needed for a 100,000 week and a #2 debut. Without it, the numbers would have been considerably less. This sort of publicity does have a way of boosting CD sales. Considerably less by how many albums? So all of those people just bought Fantasia's album out of SYMPATHY? Did *you* buy Fantasia's album because of her suicide attempt. No, of course not, because you are not a fan. People who are not fans or don't like her music to a certain extent would not buy her album just because she tried to kill herself. Kem just debuted with 76,000 copies. Fantasia's single has been a bigger hit/ had more audience impressions than his song overall. Plus, she has a hit reality show and was doing radio promotion before the suicide attempt. As such, I think Fantasia could have cleared *at least* 90,000+ regardless. Fantasia's profile, especially in the R&B market, has been quite high over the past year. |
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Post by spongebob on Aug 29, 2010 9:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 11:28:52 GMT -5
Never said Fantasia did not have a fanbase This "suicide attempt" conveniently timed for the release of her album gives her the publicity needed for a 100,000 week and a #2 debut. Without it, the numbers would have been considerably less. This sort of publicity does have a way of boosting CD sales. Considerably less by how many albums? So all of those people just bought Fantasia's album out of SYMPATHY? Did *you* buy Fantasia's album because of her suicide attempt. No, of course not, because you are not a fan. People who are not fans or don't like her music to a certain extent would not buy her album just because she tried to kill herself. Kem just debuted with 76,000 copies. Fantasia's single has been a bigger hit/ had more audience impressions than his song overall. Plus, she has a hit reality show and was doing radio promotion before the suicide attempt. As such, I think Fantasia could have cleared *at least* 90,000+ regardless. Fantasia's profile, especially in the R&B market, has been quite high over the past year. You don't think the front page announcement of her "suicide attempt" did anything at all for her first week numbers? You don't think that people read the news headlines and saw the news of the "suicide attempt" and the side announcemt that her album was out and didn't purchase because of the news article? I am sure Fantasia is a special case but usually that level of exposure INCREASES album sales dramatically rather than do nothing at all for it. Death or the threat of death has a way of doing nice things for album sales. For all the reasons you said, I am sure Fantasia would have had a top 10 or even top 5 debut regardless of the headlines. But the exposure from the headlines were responsible for the 6 digit numbers. |
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Post by Push The Button on Aug 29, 2010 11:51:17 GMT -5
I don't think that the suicide attempt was a publicity stunt at all. But her team and her label are certainly capitalizing on it, which doesn't help other peoples suspicions.
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Post by speeddial on Aug 29, 2010 12:08:36 GMT -5
Considerably less by how many albums? So all of those people just bought Fantasia's album out of SYMPATHY? Did *you* buy Fantasia's album because of her suicide attempt. No, of course not, because you are not a fan. People who are not fans or don't like her music to a certain extent would not buy her album just because she tried to kill herself. Kem just debuted with 76,000 copies. Fantasia's single has been a bigger hit/ had more audience impressions than his song overall. Plus, she has a hit reality show and was doing radio promotion before the suicide attempt. As such, I think Fantasia could have cleared *at least* 90,000+ regardless. Fantasia's profile, especially in the R&B market, has been quite high over the past year. You don't think that people read the news headlines and saw the news of the "suicide attempt" and the side announcemt that her album was out and didn't purchase because of the news article? I am sure Fantasia is a special case but usually that level of exposure INCREASES album sales dramatically rather than do nothing at all for it. Death or the threat of death has a way of doing nice things for album sales. For all the reasons you said, I am sure Fantasia would have had a top 10 or even top 5 debut regardless of the headlines. But the exposure from the headlines were responsible for the 6 digit numbers. Yes, I do think that the additional publicity has helped sales, but I doubt that it is more than probably around 20,000 copies. Probably. But all of your posts have made it seem like "considerably" fewer albums would have had her debuting with half of what she's projected to sell...like 60,000. Her reality show's main focus was on the production of her album. She was promoting the album for a month PRIOR to the suicide attempt on top radio stations, and her video was in heavy rotation on BET. Fact is that people would NOT purchase an album if they are not interested in the music. The extra publicity may have caused *maybe* 20,000 more albums to be bought than if not for the suicide attempt. But the majority of people who purchased were already fans and were anticipating her album after 3+ years of waiting. 120,000 vs. 100,000...both would have landed her at no. 2 or fighting for 3rd, which would have been just as good. |
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Aug 29, 2010 12:27:24 GMT -5
IMO, I think the sales would have been In the 100-120k without the suicide attempt. She's been consistent with her openings.
Free Yourself-240,000
FANTASIA-133,000
Back To Me-120-130k?
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Post by kylecburke on Aug 29, 2010 13:18:59 GMT -5
IMO, I think the sales would have been In the 100-120k without the suicide attempt. She's been consistent with her openings. Free Yourself-240,000 FANTASIA-133,000 Back To Me-120-130k? Well Christmas season was for the debut as well as Idol, Her 2nd was also released end of the year was it not? And it was her followup...An average person wouldnt even know she has a career anymore |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 13:42:04 GMT -5
Put it in more relative terms Fantasia's debut was at #8, the follow up debuted at #19
This one is at #2
It would be hard not to think that the difference is due to the exposure from the "suicide attempt"
In all likelihood, the debut of this album would have been considerably lower without the front page headlines that brought exposure to Fantasia from people who don't watch VH1 or would not have otherwise known that she had an album out
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 14:02:27 GMT -5
Put it simply when music artists are in the news for something other than music, they get publicity. They are exposed to people who might not otherwise hear the music because they are the lead story on CNN or other news outlets (that are not music sites).
Example: Michael Jackson died in 2009, this was the front story of all news outlets for weeks, not just the music sites and we all know what that did for album sales.
Fantasia's reality show will draw fans who watch the show - only. A suspected suicide that gains national coverage on non-music outlets will give Fantasia exposure to people who do not watch VH1. This would send people to the stores to buy the album that would not have otherwise had any idea the album was even out.
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Post by popindustrialist on Aug 29, 2010 14:08:34 GMT -5
Katy fakes lesbianism then goes evangelical on Gaga's ass, Fantasia screws trash and then takes some aspirin ... I dont really see a big difference.
Publicity stunts are the mother's milk of the entertainment industry.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Aug 29, 2010 15:17:48 GMT -5
This may have already been answered, but are the Starbucks sales factored into this forecast? I remember Streisand's real total the week of the Memoirs of an Imp. Angel fiasco was much higher than the forecast and it was either because of Starbucks and/or QVC. ??? I don't think that the suicide attempt was a publicity stunt at all. But her team and her label are certainly capitalizing on it, which doesn't help other peoples suspicions. This is what happened, btw. |
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Post by speeddial on Aug 29, 2010 15:50:13 GMT -5
IMO, I think the sales would have been In the 100-120k without the suicide attempt. She's been consistent with her openings. Free Yourself-240,000 FANTASIA-133,000 Back To Me-120-130k? Well Christmas season was for the debut as well as Idol, Her 2nd was also released end of the year was it not? And it was her followup... An average person wouldnt even know she has a career anymoreOnce again, the average person is NOT Fantasia's demographic. The average R&B fan knows quite well that Fantasia has a career. The TARGET audience is the most important in all aspects of business. Who cares if a Pop audience member does not know that she was still making music? R&B audience is usually very loyal or at least more loyal than the Pop audience. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 16:24:44 GMT -5
100,000 for the current album means we have gone outside Fantasia's target demographic due to national exposure from a non-music related issue
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Post by neally on Aug 29, 2010 16:41:08 GMT -5
I can't believe people think it was staged. Is it so hard to believe she's going through a tough time right now? Just because she has an album coming out doesn't mean she's some happy, skipping down the streets Mary Poppins. If its that unfathomable that she could possibly be depressed right now, then you're sadly mistaken. She had an affair ran all over the tabloids. Fantasia hasn't exactly had an easy life. Just because you gain fame doesn't mean you suddenly gain happiness. I don't understand why celebrities are somehow always doing something for fame. Is it that hard to believe she really attempted suicide? Call it coincidence if you must, but it wasn't staged. I also agree with yoKC on this one 100%. Risking your own life just to have a big opening week is far more unrealistic than it just being a coincidence. Thank you for bringing a dose of sense and reality into this thread. Honestly, I am shocked and disappointed that some folks out here truly believe that Fantasia staged a suicide attempt for record sales. |
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Post by speeddial on Aug 29, 2010 17:05:52 GMT -5
100,000 for the current album means we have gone outside Fantasia's target demographic due to national exposure from a non-music related issue Fewer than 100,000 R&B album buyers exist in the USA in a given week??? Huh? Monica, Maxwell, etc. who recently have had even higher debut weeks based SOLELY on the R&B fanbase will beg to differ. And let's not forget that last week KEM debuted with 76,000 albums, and he had less promotional exposure this year than Fantasia did prior to her suicide attempt. |
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