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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 17:14:26 GMT -5
Recently yes
Fantasia's albums have never even been in the top 5 before, much less #2
The extra non-music exposure got her to #2, which is something her VH1 shoul would not have done.
Leaking to the press a suicide attempt the week your album comes out is not a bad thing, it appeared to have worked quite well. She got exposure well beyond what VH1 would have given her
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Post by Positive Tension on Aug 29, 2010 17:42:07 GMT -5
I haven't followed Fantasia in the news, but if she actually faked suicide to gain album sales, it's pretty darn sick. If she didn't fake it, it's extremely sad, but all the stories of the suicide are no doubt the reason she's selling as much as she is in her first week. Without all the press she has been getting, I don't know if she would have cracked even the top ten.
Solid debut for Katy Perry. It's not a blockbuster first week, but her sales are in line with what I expected.
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Post by speeddial on Aug 29, 2010 18:29:23 GMT -5
Recently yes Fantasia's albums have never even been in the top 5 before, much less #2 Fantasia's first two albums also were released during the heavy Christmas season that has greater competition. Even if Fantasia's new album debuted with only around 80,000 copies this August, she would be no. 2 or no. 3. Or do you disagree? Kem's albums also have never debuted no. 2, but his latest one just did. Guess why? Because August is a much less competitive month. Fact.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 18:47:05 GMT -5
You are downplaying the national non-VH1 exposure that she got from her event.
Who's to say the VH1 audience (that is willing to buy her album) comprises of 100,000 people?
She has a name from her American Idol days that carries weight with people that do not watch VH1. Death and near-death experiences tend to do nice things for album sales. Some of those folks probably read about her pill bottle and went to buy her album
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Post by Jack on Aug 29, 2010 19:08:03 GMT -5
..An average person wouldnt even know she has a career anymore An "average" person. By that do you mean white, pop radio listeners? Smdh. 2m, you're HAMMERING this home. Nobody is denying that the album has sold more as a result of Fantasia's suicide attempt. You have to stop pretending that "all you are saying" is that she is benefiting from the suicide attempt. You have said and implied again, and again and again that she attempted to kill herself (some of your versions suggest she didn't actually attempt to kill herself, and it's a conspiracy that hundreds of people are in on) for a big opening week. You've said her near death is fake, "nice", "convenient" and " coincidental". You clearly are interested in her drama, enough to spend hours arguing with people on the internet about her, not to mention sifting through news articles to find negative ones that agree with your viewpoint. Furthermore, you clearly do dislike her. "Ultimately you don't care"? Ultimately you do. And for your information, the chart positions of her previous albums don't mean much. That's just indicative of what everybody else sold that week. Sure "Fantasia" came out in Q4, but you also should know she didn't have a hit single upon release. She has a number one single right now. Are you not going to let up? You've made your feelings on the situation perfectly clear. They're as unpleasant as the situation itself. But constantly reading different versions of "how", "why" and "if" Fantasia tried to kill herself has to be as boring to everybody else as it is to me.
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Post by speeddial on Aug 29, 2010 19:20:25 GMT -5
You are downplaying the national non-VH1 exposure that she got from her event. Who's to say the VH1 audience (that is willing to buy her album) comprises of 100,000 people?She has a name from her American Idol days that carries weight with people that do not watch VH1. Death and near-death experiences tend to do nice things for album sales. Some of those folks probably read about her pill bottle and went to buy her album Fantasia FOR REAL averaged 1.2 million viewers for the first season. Surely, 100,000 is not that many in comparison, and surely 100,000 of those would encompass the R&B-buying audience. Or do you think that 1.1 million viewers are ardent Pop and Country music fans only? Also, you keep saying that near-death experiences affect album sales? Which ones over the last 5 - 10 years have affected sales? Not death but near-death?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 19:27:42 GMT -5
..An average person wouldnt even know she has a career anymore An "average" person. By that do you mean white, pop radio listeners? Smdh. 2m, you're HAMMERING this home. Nobody is denying that the album has sold more as a result of Fantasia's suicide attempt. You have to stop pretending that "all you are saying" is that she is benefiting from the suicide attempt. You have said and implied again, and again and again that she attempted to kill herself (some of your versions suggest she didn't actually attempt to kill herself, and it's a conspiracy that hundreds of people are in on) for a big opening week. You've said her near death is fake, "nice", "convenient" and " coincidental". You clearly are interested in her drama, enough to spend hours arguing with people on the internet about her, not to mention sifting through news articles to find negative ones that agree with your viewpoint. Furthermore, you clearly do dislike her. "Ultimately you don't care"? Ultimately you do. And for your information, the chart positions of her previous albums don't mean much. That's just indicative of what everybody else sold that week. Sure "Fantasia" came out in Q4, but you also should know she didn't have a hit single upon release. She has a number one single right now. Are you not going to let up? You've made your feelings on the situation perfectly clear. They're as unpleasant as the situation itself. But constantly reading different versions of "how", "why" and "if" Fantasia tried to kill herself has to be as boring to everybody else as it is to me. I believe she attempted suicide. I believe the timing of the release to the press was convenient (coincidence perhaps - I can agree with too). Probably someone who works with her tied it to promotion of her album. I believe she got a HUGE boost from the exposure and that outweighs the exposure that she got from VH1. The #1 single is on one specific format that, by itself would not produce a #1 or near #1 album. The chart positions I quoted say that in any given week, she has not charted very high relative to her competition. Now she is #2. HDD and other industry reports suggest that this album has "exceeded expectations". This would probably be due to the extra exposure. People are trying to get me to believe that because of a #1 on Urban AC and a reality show on VH1, 100K or really really close to it would have happened anyway. 100K now means #2. She has never been higher than #8 before (her American Idol album). Chart positions become relevant as opposed to Soundscan numbers because Soundscan numbers vary by year and season and you can't compare them equally. I do like Fantasia's music. But that is irrelevant. It is clear to me, this album has exceeded expectations due to the exposure received from her recent non-music event. NOTE: The above comments express MY OPINION ONLY. This album may have been #2 and sold 100K anyway, with an Urban AC single and a VH1 reality show - we won't really know. In my opinion, catastrophic events in lives of celebrities generate interest from others that would not have otherwise been there. Maybe in Fantasia's case that is not true
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Post by kylecburke on Aug 29, 2010 20:42:23 GMT -5
100,000 for the current album means we have gone outside Fantasia's target demographic due to national exposure from a non-music related issue With or without any scadal...we have to be impressed and happy to see her earn success...Im glad to see something come out of the American Idol winners other than Carrie and Kelly all the time
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 20:43:22 GMT -5
100,000 for the current album means we have gone outside Fantasia's target demographic due to national exposure from a non-music related issue With or without any scadal...we have to be impressed and happy to see her earn success...Im glad to see something come out of the American Idol winners other than Carrie and Kelly all the time Of course
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Post by kylecburke on Aug 29, 2010 20:44:23 GMT -5
..An average person wouldnt even know she has a career anymore An "average" person. By that do you mean white, pop radio listeners? Smdh. 2m, you're HAMMERING this home. Nobody is denying that the album has sold more as a result of Fantasia's suicide attempt. You have to stop pretending that "all you are saying" is that she is benefiting from the suicide attempt. You have said and implied again, and again and again that she attempted to kill herself (some of your versions suggest she didn't actually attempt to kill herself, and it's a conspiracy that hundreds of people are in on) for a big opening week. You've said her near death is fake, "nice", "convenient" and " coincidental". You clearly are interested in her drama, enough to spend hours arguing with people on the internet about her, not to mention sifting through news articles to find negative ones that agree with your viewpoint. Furthermore, you clearly do dislike her. "Ultimately you don't care"? Ultimately you do. And for your information, the chart positions of her previous albums don't mean much. That's just indicative of what everybody else sold that week. Sure "Fantasia" came out in Q4, but you also should know she didn't have a hit single upon release. She has a number one single right now. Are you not going to let up? You've made your feelings on the situation perfectly clear. They're as unpleasant as the situation itself. But constantly reading different versions of "how", "why" and "if" Fantasia tried to kill herself has to be as boring to everybody else as it is to me. No what I ment was that Fantasia is not in the major public eye usually...when you ask anyone on the street what she has done..most won't think past her first album. Im happy for her! Getting 100K in august is great enough in this economy
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Post by kylecburke on Aug 29, 2010 20:47:35 GMT -5
An "average" person. By that do you mean white, pop radio listeners? Smdh. 2m, you're HAMMERING this home. Nobody is denying that the album has sold more as a result of Fantasia's suicide attempt. You have to stop pretending that "all you are saying" is that she is benefiting from the suicide attempt. You have said and implied again, and again and again that she attempted to kill herself (some of your versions suggest she didn't actually attempt to kill herself, and it's a conspiracy that hundreds of people are in on) for a big opening week. You've said her near death is fake, "nice", "convenient" and " coincidental". You clearly are interested in her drama, enough to spend hours arguing with people on the internet about her, not to mention sifting through news articles to find negative ones that agree with your viewpoint. Furthermore, you clearly do dislike her. "Ultimately you don't care"? Ultimately you do. And for your information, the chart positions of her previous albums don't mean much. That's just indicative of what everybody else sold that week. Sure "Fantasia" came out in Q4, but you also should know she didn't have a hit single upon release. She has a number one single right now. Are you not going to let up? You've made your feelings on the situation perfectly clear. They're as unpleasant as the situation itself. But constantly reading different versions of "how", "why" and "if" Fantasia tried to kill herself has to be as boring to everybody else as it is to me. I believe she attempted suicide. I believe the timing of the release to the press was convenient (coincidence perhaps - I can agree with too). Probably someone who works with her tied it to promotion of her album. I believe she got a HUGE boost from the exposure and that outweighs the exposure that she got from VH1. The #1 single is on one specific format that, by itself would not produce a #1 or near #1 album. The chart positions I quoted say that in any given week, she has not charted very high relative to her competition. Now she is #2. HDD and other industry reports suggest that this album has "exceeded expectations". This would probably be due to the extra exposure. People are trying to get me to believe that because of a #1 on Urban AC and a reality show on VH1, 100K or really really close to it would have happened anyway. 100K now means #2. She has never been higher than #8 before (her American Idol album). Chart positions become relevant as opposed to Soundscan numbers because Soundscan numbers vary by year and season and you can't compare them equally. I do like Fantasia's music. But that is irrelevant. It is clear to me, this album has exceeded expectations due to the exposure received from her recent non-music event. NOTE: The above comments express MY OPINION ONLY. This album may have been #2 and sold 100K anyway, with an Urban AC single and a VH1 reality show - we won't really know. In my opinion, catastrophic events in lives of celebrities generate interest from others that would not have otherwise been there. Maybe in Fantasia's case that is not true 2m I love the way you think...your comments are well thought out and even if some may be biased they are logical! Your not just a biased fan of someone that gets defended all the time :)
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Post by Oprah on Aug 29, 2010 21:08:31 GMT -5
120k sounds about right for an album that spawned an Urban AC hit and whose recording process was a major part of VH1's most successful show of the year. I think people are underestimating the strength of that particular format in terms of pushing CD sales; likewise, reality shows which highlights the creation of albums have proven quite helpful in advancing artist's careers, particularly female R&B singers. I find it far more plausible that this number is a result of those factors rather than people deciding to cop the CD because they heard she tried to kill herself.
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Post by GRRR on Aug 29, 2010 21:31:47 GMT -5
I have to say I never expected Fantasia to hit 100k even with all the things going on, I was expecting 55-60k at best :o
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Post by texasdevil on Aug 29, 2010 22:28:01 GMT -5
I have to say I never expected Fantasia to hit 100k even with all the things going on, I was expecting 55-60k at best :o Same here.
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Post by CookyMonzta on Aug 29, 2010 23:44:39 GMT -5
Recently yes Fantasia's albums have never even been in the top 5 before, much less #2 Fantasia's first two albums also were released during the heavy Christmas season that has greater competition. Even if Fantasia's new album debuted with only around 80,000 copies this August, she would be no. 2 or no. 3. Or do you disagree? Kem's albums also have never debuted no. 2, but his latest one just did. Guess why? Because August is a much less competitive month. Fact. I don't think the suicide attempt made that big of a difference at all. Consider this: In February, her record label promoted "Even Angels" to the Web, and I was convinced that this could be a top-10 hit on the Hot 100, strong enough for her album to match the opening week of her debut (240,000)... ...That is, if they had promoted the single to radio and made a video (they did neither), and released the album no later than mid-June (repeatedly pushed back, at least 4 times, starting with July 13). By April, with no "Even Angels" promoted to radio, I was convinced that J Records was throwing her under the bus, setting her up to get dropped. By this time I was afraid she'd struggle to reach 75,000 for opening week. But then, "Bittersweet" was promoted to R&B radio, and it got excellent reviews by listeners. I wasn't exactly mesmerized as I was with "Even Angels", but by then, snippets of other songs were leaked to the Web. After reading the reviews by listeners at this site and others, I was convinced she could conceivably open with more than 75,000. But it would depend on where "Bittersweet" peaked. She earned a one-night headliner in London in May. As "Bittersweet" made its way up the charts, there were more leaks and more good reviews. By the end of July, "Bittersweet" made it to #10, which is significantly higher than the #22 position of "Hood Boy", her opening single for her second album. That song, I believe, was costly for her opening week (133,000). Given the leaks, a top-10 R&B hit, her presence at VH1, and decent pre-release reviews before the release of Paula Cook's divorce papers prompted her suicide attempt, I was convinced she already had enough publicity to open with 100,000 copies. I was more worried about what she would sell during her second week; which made me believe that she had to open with more than 133,000 if she wanted to reach 350,000 total sales. That is a number I think she needs to reach before she maxes out, if she wants to avoid the prospect of getting dropped.
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Post by wunderkind on Aug 30, 2010 2:16:08 GMT -5
I haven't followed Fantasia in the news, but if she actually faked suicide to gain album sales, it's pretty darn sick. If she didn't fake it, it's extremely sad, but all the stories of the suicide are no doubt the reason she's selling as much as she is in her first week. Without all the press she has been getting, I don't know if she would have cracked even the top ten. Uhmm... she would've definitely still been in the top 10 without the press from her suicide attempt. Her last album had a much weaker lead single (Bittersweet has been top 10 at Urban on Billboard) and it still managed about 130,000 (it was in the holiday season, but still). She has had enough exposure lately from her VH1 series, which was one of the stations highest rated shows ever, and had a hit single at Urban radio. And she has always had a strong following of fans. It's not like breaking the top 10 requires huge sales right now, either People just underestimate what she would've sold anyway without the suicide attempt press - but we will never know regardless.
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Post by KMJ1 on Aug 30, 2010 9:25:49 GMT -5
anyway u cut it, she was as washed up as Ruben Studdord (spelling?)- far as musical relevancy towards the public. She has a good voice and was good for that season of AI (like Ruben), but did NOT maintain any musical legacy, hype, or real public interest. NO DOUBT the bulk of her 1st week album sales are only because of the suicide attempt.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 30, 2010 9:35:09 GMT -5
ONE year ago:
-- 1 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 108,942 -- BREAKTHROUGH -- 2 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 63,729 -- TIME OF OUR LIVES -- 3 SKILLET ATLANTIC 63,712 -- AWAKE 2 4 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 60,620 -12% NUMBER ONES 5 5 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 52,674 +16% ONLY BY THE NIGHT -- 6 IMOGEN HEAP RCA/RMG 46,962 -- ELLIPSE 1 7 REBA MCENTIRE VALORY 41,720 -56% KEEP ON LOVING YOU 3 8 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 41,259 -31% TWANG 6 9 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 36,062 -11% E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES) 10 10 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 34,309 +2% FEARLESS
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Post by #LisaRinna on Aug 30, 2010 9:42:38 GMT -5
120k sounds about right for an album that spawned an Urban AC hit and whose recording process was a major part of VH1's most successful show of the year. I think people are underestimating the strength of that particular format in terms of pushing CD sales; likewise, reality shows which highlights the creation of albums have proven quite helpful in advancing artist's careers, particularly female R&B singers. Exactly. See Monica who is enjoying success with her current era.
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Post by speeddial on Aug 30, 2010 9:57:08 GMT -5
anyway u cut it, she was as washed up as Ruben Studdord (spelling?)- far as musical relevancy towards the public. She has a good voice and was good for that season of AI (like Ruben), but did NOT maintain any musical legacy, hype, or real public interest. NO DOUBT the bulk of her 1st week album sales are only because of the suicide attempt. Did you fail to read the thread properly? Fact is that she already had a Top 10 R&B hit before the suicide attempt. Fact is that her last album went Gold 3 years ago and spawned the #1 R&B hit that stayed at number 1 for 7 weeks. That's ignoring her significant Broadway and reality show success. Why is R&B success so underrated?
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Post by kylecburke on Aug 30, 2010 10:02:47 GMT -5
anyway u cut it, she was as washed up as Ruben Studdord (spelling?)- far as musical relevancy towards the public. She has a good voice and was good for that season of AI (like Ruben), but did NOT maintain any musical legacy, hype, or real public interest. NO DOUBT the bulk of her 1st week album sales are only because of the suicide attempt. not as washed up as Ruben...she had her reality show and Oprah this year...I actually like the Even Angels song :) and I am noo Fantasia fan..AT ALL!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Aug 30, 2010 10:58:35 GMT -5
Why is R&B success so underrated? I know! :(
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Post by tae04 on Aug 30, 2010 11:41:59 GMT -5
Fantasia has remained relevant in R&B circles without the suicide drama. Her first cd sold 300k I believe and the 2nd one 133k. What number it placed means nothing, because it depends what else is out that week. Albums have gone number 1 below 100k. Urban AC has driven good sales for many artist. Recently, Kem is a good example. Nobody even knows him but he was #2 the other week.
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ONE year ago: -- 1 WHITNEY HOUSTON ARISTA/RMG 301,396 -- I LOOK TO YOU 2 2 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 161,604 +154% TIME OF OUR LIVES -- 3 TREY SONGZ ATLANTIC 135,896 -- READY 4 4 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 64,027 +6% NUMBER ONES 1 5 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 46,071 -58% BREAKTHROUGH 5 6 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 43,942 -17% ONLY BY THE NIGHT -- 7 CHEVELLE EPIC 42,913 -- SCI-FI CRIMES -- 8 PITBULL J RECORDS/RMG 41,173 -- REBELUTION 20 9 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 37,786 +59% THRILLER 10 10 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 35,007 +2% FEARLESS I thought that Colbie Callait hit #1 this week one year ago...
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NOW IN: 54.98%[/color] lw tw artist: album - label power index -- 1 KATY PERRY: TEENAGE DREAM - CAPITOL/EMI 106,903 -- 2 FANTASIA: BACK TO ME - J RECORDS/RMG 87,127 1 3 EMINEM: RECOVERY - SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 53,443 -- 4 USHER: VERSUS - LAFACE/JLG 29,317 -- 5 LITTLE BIG TOWN: REASON WHY - CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 26,637 8 6 JUSTIN BIEBER: MY WORLD 2.0 - ISLAND/IDJMG 18,467 2 7 KEM: INTIMACY - UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 17,891 5 8 TRACE ADKINS: COWBOY'S BACK IN TOWN - SHOW DOG 17,830 15 9 KIDZ BOP KIDS: KIDZ BOP 18 - RAZOR & TIE 17,601 7 10 LADY ANTEBELLUM: NEED YOU NOW - CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 14,742 12 11 DRAKE: THANK ME LATER - YM/CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 9,742 21 12 MIRANDA LAMBERT: REVOLUTION - COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 9,732 20 13 ZAC BROWN BAND: FOUNDATION - ATLANTIC 9,287 23 14 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 34 - CAPITOL/EMI 9,285 16 15 LADY GAGA: FAME - INTERSCOPE 9,276 13 16 AVENGED SEVENFOLD: NIGHTMARE - WARNER BROS. 8,142 4 17 IRON MAIDEN: FINAL FRONTIER - COLUMBIA 7,918 11 18 RICK ROSS: TEFLON DON - DEF JAM/IDJ 7,682 24 19 KE$HA: ANIMAL - KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 6,894 -- 20 RANDY ROGERS BAND: BURNING THE DAY - MCA NASHVILLE 6,806 42 21 ENRIQUE IGLESIAS: EUPHORIA - UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 6,678 30 22 USHER: RAYMOND VS. RAYMOND - LAFACE/JLG 6,575 14 23 CAMP ROCK 2: THE FINAL JAM: SOUNDTRACK - WALT DISNEY 6,569 17 24 MUMFORD & SONS: SIGH NO MORE - GLASSNOTE 6,250 44 25 JUSTIN BIEBER: MY WORLD - ISLAND/IDJMG 5,822 19 26 BLAKE SHELTON: ALL ABOUT TONIGHT - WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 5,439 45 27 JERROD NIEMANN: JUDGE JERROD & THE HUNG JURY - ARISTA NASHVILLE 5,288 34 28 LADY GAGA: THE REMIX - INTERSCOPE 5,265 -- 29 APOCALYPTICA: 7TH SYMPHONY - JIVE/RED INK 5,102 48 30 BIG BOI: SIR LUCIOUS LEFT FOOT - DEF JAM/IDJ 4,713 41 31 MILEY CYRUS: CAN'T BE TAMED - HOLLYWOOD 4,615 33 32 JACK JOHNSON: TO THE SEA - BRUSHFIRE/UNIV REPUBLIC 4,600 38 33 LADY GAGA: FAME MONSTER (EP) - INTERSCOPE 4,576 28 34 SHERYL CROW: 100 MILES FROM MEMPHIS - A&M 4,447 -- 35 DEVIL WEARS PRADA: ZOMBIE EP - FERRET RECORDS 4,277 -- 36 GODSMACK: THE ORACLE - UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 4,080 -- 37 NEVER SHOUT NEVER: HARMONY - SIRE 3,882 22 38 CAROLE KING & JAMES TAYLOR: LIVE AT THE TROUBADOUR - HEAR MUSIC 3,861 3 39 RAY LAMONTAGNE: GOD WILLIN' & THE CREEK DON'T RISE - RCA/RMG 3,704 32 40 B.O.B.: ADVENTURES OF BOBBY RAY - ATLANTIC 3,657 -- 41 NICKELBACK: DARK HORSE - ROADRUNNER 3,582 47 42 CARRIE UNDERWOOD: PLAY ON - 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 3,276 35 43 TRAIN: SAVE ME SAN FRANCISCO - COLUMBIA 3,247 6 44 ARCADE FIRE: SUBURBS - MERGE 3,210 -- 45 MICHAEL BUBLE: CRAZY LOVE - REPRISE 3,039 37 46 BUN B: TRILL O.G. - RAP-A-LOT 2,953 -- 47 JOHN MAYER: BATTLE STUDIES - COLUMBIA 2,831 36 48 BLACK KEYS: BROTHERS - NONESUCH 2,783 43 49 DONDRIA: DONDRIA VS. PHATFFFAT - MALACO 2,573 -- 50 FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH: WAR IS THE ANSWER - PROSPECT PARK 2,530
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Post by Jack on Aug 30, 2010 13:52:09 GMT -5
anyway u cut it, she was as washed up as Ruben Studdord (spelling?)- far as musical relevancy towards the public. She has a good voice and was good for that season of AI (like Ruben), but did NOT maintain any musical legacy, hype, or real public interest. NO DOUBT the bulk of her 1st week album sales are only because of the suicide attempt. Did you fail to read the thread properly? Fact is that she already had a Top 10 R&B hit before the suicide attempt. Fact is that her last album went Gold 3 years ago and spawned the #1 R&B hit that stayed at number 1 for 7 weeks. That's ignoring her significant Broadway and reality show success. Why is R&B success so underrated?Unless you're Ke$ha getting number one songs on iTunes, any other success is irrelevant. Did you not know? I hate to play the "r" card, but if having one of the top ten biggest hits of the decade on a certain format can be swept up as "washed up", then I give up. Broaden your horizons people.
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Post by speeddial on Aug 30, 2010 13:53:10 GMT -5
^I so agree with you, yoKC. Great post!
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Post by David on Aug 30, 2010 13:59:28 GMT -5
Did you fail to read the thread properly? Fact is that she already had a Top 10 R&B hit before the suicide attempt. Fact is that her last album went Gold 3 years ago and spawned the #1 R&B hit that stayed at number 1 for 7 weeks. That's ignoring her significant Broadway and reality show success. Why is R&B success so underrated?Unless you're Ke$ha getting number one songs on iTunes, any other success is irrelevant. Did you not know? I hate to play the "r" card, but if having one of the top ten biggest hits of the decade on a certain format can be swept up as "washed up", then I give up. Broaden your horizons people. Its not just Urban either. Some people feel if something isn't a success on Pop, then its a flop. The only format that seems to get a free pass is Country. Its like people think if you get hits on Urban or Hot AC then you should be getting them on Pop, or you're irrelevant. lol People also seem to exclude Urban AC and AC as formats all together around here.
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Post by Oɴʟуßoy® on Aug 30, 2010 14:43:19 GMT -5
I didnt know this was a Fantasia: Did She or Didn't She? thread.
Also.. Tasia has a fanbase. She had a good 1st single and people were interested in what she had to release. Its not like her album was reviewed poorly and got that much sales. If that were the case then you can say that the suicide attempt helped but nah.
BTW how much is Katy opening up with?
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