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Post by texasdevil on Jul 26, 2012 11:19:53 GMT -5
While they included most of the relevant tracks, sourcing was an issue: -Nasty is not the single edit. -For Control, they tacked the intro from the Control CD onto the DOAD master. You can see the frequency cutoff switch from the intro to the main part of the track. -The Pleasure Principle is still not the 7'' Vocal Version which was the single version. It's the same edit of the album version which appeared on Design of a Decade -Diamonds is not the single edit. -For Rhythm Nation, it was someone's great idea to rip the LP Version from one of the maxi CD's and tack on the intro from the Rhythm Nation album with a poor edit point after the count. This is a new edit. -If was lifted straight from the janet. album so they faded the beginning a bit to smooth it out. It's not the radio edit. -Scream is nearly the single edit, but is missing the warped synth before the replaced "stop fuckin' with me" line. -Got 'Til It's Gone is the real radio edit, but missing a few seconds at the beginning with Q-Tip's line "now, why you wanna go an do that?" It just starts at the wrong point. -All Nite (Don't Stop) is lifted straight from Damita Jo so there's a leftover fade out from the previous track and the end cuts off early due to R&B Junkie starting after it. Why not just rip it from one of the CD singles? -Call On Me is lifted from 20 Y.O. instead of the single. For some reason, they decided to tack the outro of With U at the beginning of the song - hack editing. -Make Me is sourced from MP3. Yes, a commercial CD track sourced from MP3. This collections has similar problems as Madonna's Celebration package. (Which were fixed after the first pressing.) Keep in mind that these sets were mean for casual fans, not hardcore ones.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 26, 2012 11:24:16 GMT -5
How is it a bad tracklisting? It has all of the big hits (deluxe, anyhow, with the inclusion of "All I Have")- yeah, it omits "Play" and "I'm Gonna Be Alright" for lesser hits like "I'm Into You," "Feelin' So Good" and "Let's Get Loud" but, otherwise, all of the big singles are present in their hit versions, aren't they?
At least this was released when she still was scoring chart action- look at Paula Abdul's GH albums (similar act to Lopez, though with fewer albums). Neither the original or modified one charted on the Billboard 200.
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Post by esoteric76 on Jul 26, 2012 12:01:32 GMT -5
While they included most of the relevant tracks, sourcing was an issue: This collections has similar problems as Madonna's Celebration package. (Which were fixed after the first pressing.) Keep in mind that these sets were mean for casual fans, not hardcore ones. Totally agree with you, except that the most outspoken fans are the hardcore fans, and taking a little bit more time to put out a really flawless collection is worth it when the hardcore fans and the casual fans can both get what they want. I think we will see this done right with the upcoming 25th Anniversary reissues of Bad, Whitney, and the next Whitney Greatest Hits which is sure to be spectacular.
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Post by poplife on Jul 26, 2012 12:18:45 GMT -5
Ugh, was so disappointed when I found out this was edited. I wanted the explicit "I'm Real"!
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jul 27, 2012 7:19:09 GMT -5
While they included most of the relevant tracks, sourcing was an issue: -Nasty is not the single edit. -For Control, they tacked the intro from the Control CD onto the DOAD master. You can see the frequency cutoff switch from the intro to the main part of the track. -The Pleasure Principle is still not the 7'' Vocal Version which was the single version. It's the same edit of the album version which appeared on Design of a Decade -Diamonds is not the single edit. -For Rhythm Nation, it was someone's great idea to rip the LP Version from one of the maxi CD's and tack on the intro from the Rhythm Nation album with a poor edit point after the count. This is a new edit. -If was lifted straight from the janet. album so they faded the beginning a bit to smooth it out. It's not the radio edit. -Scream is nearly the single edit, but is missing the warped synth before the replaced "stop fuckin' with me" line. -Got 'Til It's Gone is the real radio edit, but missing a few seconds at the beginning with Q-Tip's line "now, why you wanna go an do that?" It just starts at the wrong point. -All Nite (Don't Stop) is lifted straight from Damita Jo so there's a leftover fade out from the previous track and the end cuts off early due to R&B Junkie starting after it. Why not just rip it from one of the CD singles? -Call On Me is lifted from 20 Y.O. instead of the single. For some reason, they decided to tack the outro of With U at the beginning of the song - hack editing. -Make Me is sourced from MP3. Yes, a commercial CD track sourced from MP3. This collections has similar problems as Madonna's Celebration package. (Which were fixed after the first pressing.) Keep in mind that these sets were mean for casual fans, not hardcore ones. I agree, but leaving the outro from the previous album track tacked on? That's just lazy LOL.
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Post by Lozzy on Jul 27, 2012 17:28:18 GMT -5
While they included most of the relevant tracks, sourcing was an issue: -Nasty is not the single edit. -For Control, they tacked the intro from the Control CD onto the DOAD master. You can see the frequency cutoff switch from the intro to the main part of the track. -The Pleasure Principle is still not the 7'' Vocal Version which was the single version. It's the same edit of the album version which appeared on Design of a Decade -Diamonds is not the single edit. -For Rhythm Nation, it was someone's great idea to rip the LP Version from one of the maxi CD's and tack on the intro from the Rhythm Nation album with a poor edit point after the count. This is a new edit. -If was lifted straight from the janet. album so they faded the beginning a bit to smooth it out. It's not the radio edit. -Scream is nearly the single edit, but is missing the warped synth before the replaced "stop fuckin' with me" line. -Got 'Til It's Gone is the real radio edit, but missing a few seconds at the beginning with Q-Tip's line "now, why you wanna go an do that?" It just starts at the wrong point. -All Nite (Don't Stop) is lifted straight from Damita Jo so there's a leftover fade out from the previous track and the end cuts off early due to R&B Junkie starting after it. Why not just rip it from one of the CD singles? -Call On Me is lifted from 20 Y.O. instead of the single. For some reason, they decided to tack the outro of With U at the beginning of the song - hack editing. -Make Me is sourced from MP3. Yes, a commercial CD track sourced from MP3. Thanks - I wasn't aware of any of this. Not too bad, but I am surprised they let that much slide.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 28, 2012 8:31:35 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/features/jennifer-lopez-and-her-american-idol-rejuvenation-1007688952.story?utm_source=most_recent#/features/jennifer-lopez-and-her-american-idol-rejuvenation-1007688952.story?utm_source=most_recentJennifer Lopez And Her 'American Idol' Rejuvenation: An Appreciationby Jason Lipshutz, N.Y. | July 27, 2012 On Monday (July 23), Mariah Carey was officially announced as a judge on the 12th season of "American Idol," joining her husband, "America's Got Talent" host Nick Cannon, on the small screen, albeit on a rival network. "As a singer, songwriter and producer, it's going to be fun and rewarding to help find new talent and give back with 'American Idol,'" Carey said in a press statement, before incidentally remembering that her new single, "Triumphant," comes out early next month. Three days before Carey was part of the Fox team, Jennifer Lopez, whom Carey effectively replaced on "Idol," performed her first U.S. date on a co-headlining tour with Enrique Iglesias at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. It was highly orchestrated and impressively theatrical: there was a boxing ring set up specifically for her chest-thumping new single "Goin' In," a medley of her (relatively) gritty singles like "Ain't It Funny" and "I'm Real (Remix)," an encore in which she declared "I still believe in love…" on a giant video screen, and an appropriately timed confetti explosion. Unlike Iglesias, whose set included an impromptu conversation with a fan that lasted 20 (!) minutes and large patches of songs where the Latin star simply clapped along without singing, Lopez made sure no aspect of her performance smacked of laziness. Four songs into her set, Lopez took a break to hurriedly catch her breath and deliver her own manicured statement about the TV juggernaut to the crowd. "It was an amazing experience for me," Lopez said of "Idol," "and I'm going to miss it very, very much. But at the end of the day, this is what I do. This is where I belong -- right here, with all of you." Lopez was referring to her live performances, but she also could have been speaking about her relevancy in mainstream culture. Where did J. Lo belong in the pop landscape before joining "American Idol" in the summer of 2010? No one was quite sure. It had been three years since the release of an album, "Brave," that didn't have a hit (its first single, "Do It Well," peaked at No. 31 on the Hot 100) and has only sold 168,000 copies in total, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Her last Top 10 single had come four years earlier, with 2006's "Control Myself," and as the new generation of female pop artists like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna continued sprinkling hits into the mainstream consciousness like they were pieces of glitter at their sold-out arena shows, Lopez's ability to capture a wide audience with new material had waned. Do you remember "Louboutins"? Neither do we. And then "American Idol" happened, and Jennifer Lopez concocted the most impressive reality-TV-based rejuvenation of a music career ever, scoring a massive hit and making people care about her new album and tour. "On The Floor" became one of her biggest hits to date, peaking at No. 3 on the Hot 100 last year, and while her "Love?" album didn't achieve Gaga-level sales -- it's sold 334,000 copies to date, according to Nielsen SoundScan -- the disc is her most wholly consistent full-length since 2001's "J. Lo," and most importantly, casual pop fans cared about it. In the past week alone, Lopez released a greatest-hits album, "Dance Again… The Hits," that added two more of those hits to her catalogue, and issued an altogether absurd music video for "Goin' In," a song that has the potential to sneak up Latin, Dance and Top 40 charts, with a video that's collected 110,000 YouTube views in two days. Other artists, like Maroon 5's Adam Levine, have used weekly stints to sustain already successful full-time gigs, and we'll soon see if Christina Aguilera can use her "Voice" juice to resuscitate a career that was losing steam before a "Moves Like Jagger" verse offered a trip back to the top. But as of now, Lopez has done the best job at turning a reality showcase into a defibrillator for a recording career. So how did J. Lo do it? After all, a seat at the "Idol" judges table doesn't guarantee a revitalized solo career (we see you, Paula Abdul). Even Lopez's partner in crime, Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler, hasn't passed the same grade as his co-star -- his solo single, "(It) Feels So Good," flamed out after receiving a proper Fox debut last year, and Aerosmith's new single, "Legendary Child," isn't faring much better, selling only 18,000 downloads so far, according to SoundScan. But Lopez rejiggered her career using five key mantras, mission statements that incorporated "Idol" and helped her get back on course: 1. Stay likable -- Whereas Tyler was the slightly creepy patriarch and Randy Jackson the platitude-spouting cheerleader on the judges table, J. Lo controlled her onscreen persona like a brilliant marionette. She remained encouraging and eased off on criticism, while shedding tears whenever she damn well pleased. Would a bitchier judge have made for better television? Of course! But it would have damaged the brand of Jennifer Lopez, who is now strolling out of the Fox gates with an almost motherly vibe. 2. Perform on "Idol" as often as possible Lopez's blend of choreography and upbeat tunes makes her a compelling performer for the "Idol" crowd, unlike Tyler, whose rock tracks doubtlessly came off as antiquated to the cool kids. Getting to perform (as well as release teaser clips and music videos) on a top-rated show alongside artists like Pitbull and Lil Wayne is certainly a good way of nudging people about your fresh tracks. Speaking of which... 3. Select white-hot collaborators -- Nothing cures a drought of popular singles like calling up Mr. 305 himself, Pitbull, as well as RedOne, the producer behind Gaga's "Just Dance" and "Poker Face," to help engineer the lead single to your comeback album. "On The Floor" performed incredibly well compared to Lopez's preceding singles, moving 3.6 million downloads (the aforementioned "Do It Well," by comparison, has sold 532,000 downloads). And that was just the start, with the next single, "I'm Into You," co-starring Lil Wayne, and her two "Dance Again… The Hits" singles, "Dance Again" and "Goin' In," tapping Pitbull again and Flo Rida, respectively. With collaborators like those, even Brian Dunkleman would crack the Top 20. 4. Drive a Fiat J. Lo's sponsorship with the car company led to a slew of national TV ads as well as a Fiat cameo in her "Papi" music video. Hell, she even drove a Fiat onstage during her American Music Awards performance last November. And you know what? The deal worked for both parties: Fiat gained some flashy product placement while Lopez became even more ubiquitous on the small screen. Plus, Lopez made bank, combined with the millions she made from "Idol" and movie roles like "What To Expect When You're Expecting" -- there's a reason that she's No. 1 on Forbes' latest Celebrity 100 list. 5. Bow out at the right time -- Look at that quote from Lopez's concert last week: "I'm going to miss it very, very much. But at the end of the day, this is what I do. This is where I belong -- right here, with all of you." By timing her "Idol" exit to the kick-off of a continental tour as well as a greatest-hits album, Lopez declared that she was leaving on her own terms, and with the fans in mind. Now, the contract negotiations for her return are a distant memory, and J. Lo can bask in leaving the reality TV world completely unscathed. And so it goes: as one pop diva exits "American Idol" and another takes her place with bubbly enthusiasm and a new single to casually mention. But before we hear Mariah Carey's new single and analyze her interplay with Ryan Seacrest, let's take a moment to appreciate Jennifer Lopez's phoenix-like rise from the ashes of dwindling returns and toast her continued success as she looks to Dance Again.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 28, 2012 15:53:29 GMT -5
334k is pretty impressive for LOVE? considering it only had one real hit.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 28, 2012 19:26:07 GMT -5
A second hit and promo could've pushed it to gold. Shame she let the era go to waste.
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Post by bigbluenote on Jul 29, 2012 9:11:09 GMT -5
A second hit and promo could've pushed it to gold. Shame she let the era go to waste. "she"? Isn't the article pretty much saying that she did everything possible to promote her album?
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Post by think pink. on Jul 30, 2012 16:09:19 GMT -5
A second hit and promo could've pushed it to gold. Shame she let the era go to waste. "she"? Isn't the article pretty much saying that she did everything possible to promote her album? She didn't though? 2 performances through out the entire era. Both spanning almost a year apart from each other.
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Post by slayZ on Jul 30, 2012 16:41:09 GMT -5
A second hit and promo could've pushed it to gold. Shame she let the era go to waste. I don't think "she" let the era go to waste. They just picked the wrong second single, which caused for the album to lose momentum and they couldn't get it back. There's nothing else they could have done other than to re-release. Nothing else would have been a hit after two underperforming songs on radio. I don't think "she" could have worked harder or could have wanted for Love? to be successful more than she did.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 30, 2012 16:58:55 GMT -5
I'm Into You was performing decent on radio and iTunes. A few performances could have really gave it that extra push but they did nothing with the single. And then sending out Papi...only to do nothing again with it besides the Fiat commercial which only ended up hurting the single in the long run.
I don't understand her promotion at all during that era. She promoted Louboutins more than she has any of her current singles that actually stood/stand a chance at doing something.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jul 30, 2012 22:50:16 GMT -5
I'm Into You was performing decent on radio and iTunes. A few performances could have really gave it that extra push but they did nothing with the single. And then sending out Papi...only to do nothing again with it besides the Fiat commercial which only ended up hurting the single in the long run. I don't understand her promotion at all during that era. She promoted Louboutins more than she has any of her current singles that actually stood/stand a chance at doing something. Papi had an award show performance . I remember it. It might have been late in the songs run but It deff happened
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Post by josh on Jul 30, 2012 23:16:46 GMT -5
She had the Fiat in the performance. So tacky.
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Post by BadRomance on Jul 31, 2012 0:49:22 GMT -5
She had the Fiat in the performance. So tacky. Apart from the FIAT, that was an amazing performance!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 31, 2012 8:21:39 GMT -5
She performed "On the Floor" on Idol in spring 2011 and performed on the AMAs in November- is that considered a year now? Plus, all three singles had videos, and that's the most important promo a single can have. Without the Idol tie-in, the album may have sold even less than 334K- even if she did more performances.
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Post by skizzo on Jul 31, 2012 8:57:00 GMT -5
I hope there's an International tracklisting. Missing out the original version of Ain't It Funny (a huge European hit), Play (another huge hit) and I'm Gonna Be Alright is just unacceptable.
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Post by Ace on Jul 31, 2012 9:40:50 GMT -5
I absolutely loved I'm Into You, and I still don't understand why it stalled. Such a great summery jam, totally thought it was gonna blow up.
Also, I agree that aside from the Fiat, that Papi performance was pretty fantastic. However, I never saw that song taking off.
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Post by Lozzy on Jul 31, 2012 9:44:16 GMT -5
I hope there's an International tracklisting. Missing out the original version of Ain't It Funny (a huge European hit), Play (another huge hit) and I'm Gonna Be Alright is just unacceptable. It's already been released internationally with the same track listing.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 1, 2012 11:49:58 GMT -5
Dance Again... The Hits debuts at No. 20 on the Billboard 200.
Per Paul Grein, the title track has scanned 954,000 to date.
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Post by BadRomance on Aug 5, 2012 1:51:00 GMT -5
The album debuted at #3 in Canada and #4 in the UK.
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Post by BadRomance on Aug 6, 2012 20:26:41 GMT -5
It sold 14K in the US and 39K internationally in his first week. 53K in total.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 20:46:29 GMT -5
The album debuted at #3 in Canada Go us.
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Post by BadRomance on Aug 7, 2012 15:49:49 GMT -5
New song with Enrique?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 9, 2012 13:37:14 GMT -5
^Didn't that leak months ago? I thought it was set for a reissue or something.
"Dance Again" holds at No. 90 in its 18th chart week (10 of those weeks spent below No. 50, the last seven weeks spent between 80-100).
Dance Again... The Hits drops 20-43 in its second week on the Billboard 200.
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Post by BadRomance on Aug 9, 2012 13:52:24 GMT -5
^Didn't that leak months ago? I thought it was set for a reissue or something. "Dance Again" holds at No. 90 in its 18th chart week (10 of those weeks spent below No. 50, the last seven weeks spent between 80-100). Dance Again... The Hits drops 20-43 in its second week on the Billboard 200. Nope that's another song called "Mouth 2 Mouth" who was never released.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 11, 2012 7:24:02 GMT -5
Ah- I didn't click on it, thinking it was that one. Maybe it will appear on the forthcoming reissue, Dance Again..The Hits... And More. .
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Post by BadRomance on Aug 12, 2012 2:39:03 GMT -5
Sales are now estimated to 105K worldwide after 2 weeks.
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Post by divasummer on Aug 12, 2012 10:32:49 GMT -5
Didn't she cancel her promo spots for I'm Into You due to her divorce? I remember she had a spot on the Billboard awards that she cancelled.
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