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Post by Lozzy on Jan 11, 2012 0:55:41 GMT -5
Can we change the title to "Madonna f/ N. Minaj & MIA - Gimme All Your Luvin'" (with the periods in MIA if possible)? The lack of a space in between the title and featured artists is annoying me, and the artists should be together. #ocd I agree with the space, however, most songs are Artist - Song f/ other artist eg Rihanna - We Found Love f/ Calvin Harris Fine, "Madonna - Gimme All Your Luvin' f/ Nicki Minaj & MIA" at least. I still prefer the other way, though.
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Post by josh on Jan 11, 2012 1:04:19 GMT -5
I agree with the space, however, most songs are Artist - Song f/ other artist eg Rihanna - We Found Love f/ Calvin Harris Fine, "Madonna - Gimme All Your Luvin' f/ Nicki Minaj & MIA" at least. I still prefer the other way, though. Me too. That's just how they go though :'(
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Post by slayZ on Jan 11, 2012 1:42:58 GMT -5
this is gonna leak...soon.
and it's also going to be released sooner than y'all think.
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Post by Lozzy on Jan 11, 2012 1:53:53 GMT -5
I think the ideal time to release this would be to radio on Friday 2/3, where radio could spin it in a "top of the hour" deal through the weekend, and to iTunes on the evening of Sunday 2/5. Even though that's eerily reminiscent of the "Born This Way" release schedule, it feels to me that it would be the best way to go. Releasing it earlier would lose the opportunity for a high peak on the Hot 100 and all, obviously.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 2:11:57 GMT -5
iTunes release the Friday prior to the Superbowl adds date the Tuesday after the Superbowl radio is going to play it sooner than that Tuesday, for sure.
releasing on Friday would catapult the song to the upper regions of iTunes, so people who don't understand searching on iTunes won't have to look very hard. It will already be in the top 200.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 2:14:32 GMT -5
this is gonna leak...soon. and it's also going to be released sooner than y'all think. It better leak tomorrow while I'm stuck in the house.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 2:18:46 GMT -5
i hope it doesn't leak early at all.
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Post by Lozzy on Jan 11, 2012 2:24:16 GMT -5
iTunes release the Friday prior to the Superbowl adds date the Tuesday after the Superbowl radio is going to play it sooner than that Tuesday, for sure. releasing on Friday would catapult the song to the upper regions of iTunes, so people who don't understand searching on iTunes won't have to look very hard. It will already be in the top 200. However, releasing on Friday would only give her three days of sales in her first week, and those sales from the first couple of days are going to be very important. If the first sales week is cut off after three days, the sales will be split too much and it will deny her from as high a peak as possible. While it would make no sense to release the song on the Monday, I believe releasing on Sunday/Sunday evening will be best because that way, most of the sales will count to the Feb. 6-12 sales week, ensuring her a reasonable entry onto the Hot 100.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 2:26:13 GMT -5
i hope it doesn't leak early at all. A song not leaking is generally never the case lol
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Post by Lozzy on Jan 11, 2012 2:29:44 GMT -5
i hope it doesn't leak early at all. A song not leaking is generally never the case lol "Born This Way", "The Edge of Glory", "Raise Your Glass", "Hold It Against Me", "We Found Love", "It Will Rain", "We R Who We R", "Only Girl (In the World)". All relatively recent releases with pretty high anticipation. Did any of them leak?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 2:30:25 GMT -5
iTunes release the Friday prior to the Superbowl adds date the Tuesday after the Superbowl radio is going to play it sooner than that Tuesday, for sure. releasing on Friday would catapult the song to the upper regions of iTunes, so people who don't understand searching on iTunes won't have to look very hard. It will already be in the top 200. However, releasing on Friday would only give her three days of sales in her first week, and those sales from the first couple of days are going to be very important. If the first sales week is cut off after three days, the sales will be split too much and it will deny her from as high a peak as possible. While it would make no sense to release the song on the Monday, I believe releasing on Sunday/Sunday evening will be best because that way, most of the sales will count to the Feb. 6-12 sales week, ensuring her a reasonable entry onto the Hot 100. true, i agree. i have hope that Interscope will handle things correctly. The MAIN sales will come after the Superbowl, so if it is indeed released on Friday (like some songs), the Hot 100 chart placement doesn't really mean anything at that point. Its purely to get the song moving up the chart so it's visible to the stupid Superbowl audience (who doesn't know how to use a search engine). That's my way of seeing it. Has anyone ever released something on a Sunday before? Would this be a first? Releasing Sunday morning would be the best case scenario, but would that realistically happen? it has to happen that day or sooner tho. Monday morning will be too late.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 2:38:04 GMT -5
A song not leaking is generally never the case lol "Born This Way", "The Edge of Glory", "Raise Your Glass", "Hold It Against Me", "We Found Love", "It Will Rain", "We R Who We R", "Only Girl (In the World)". All relatively recent releases with pretty high anticipation. Did any of them leak? I said it generally wasn't the case. ;)
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Post by Lozzy on Jan 11, 2012 2:42:40 GMT -5
However, releasing on Friday would only give her three days of sales in her first week, and those sales from the first couple of days are going to be very important. If the first sales week is cut off after three days, the sales will be split too much and it will deny her from as high a peak as possible. While it would make no sense to release the song on the Monday, I believe releasing on Sunday/Sunday evening will be best because that way, most of the sales will count to the Feb. 6-12 sales week, ensuring her a reasonable entry onto the Hot 100. true, i agree. i have hope that Interscope will handle things correctly. The MAIN sales will come after the Superbowl, so if it is indeed released on Friday (like some songs), the Hot 100 chart placement doesn't really mean anything at that point. Its purely to get the song moving up the chart so it's visible to the stupid Superbowl audience (who doesn't know how to use a search engine). That's my way of seeing it. Has anyone ever released something on a Sunday before? Would this be a first? Releasing Sunday morning would be the best case scenario, but would that realistically happen? it has to happen that day or sooner tho. Monday morning will be too late. Interscope is usually a good label; hopefully they will. I understand that you want it released on Friday to get it higher in the chart for increased visibility to potential Super Bowl audience buyers. How about Saturday for that? There'll still be time to get it high enough, I think, and that way less sales will happen in this first week. Again, the sales from the first couple of days are very important. I don't know about if it's happened before, but I can't see why it's unrealistic for it to happen now regardless of if it's happened before or not. Yes, Monday morning will definitely, definitely be too late either way.
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Post by Lozzy on Jan 11, 2012 2:44:09 GMT -5
"Born This Way", "The Edge of Glory", "Raise Your Glass", "Hold It Against Me", "We Found Love", "It Will Rain", "We R Who We R", "Only Girl (In the World)". All relatively recent releases with pretty high anticipation. Did any of them leak? I said it generally wasn't the case. ;) Not that many songs leak. I think Interscope is capable of preventing a leak for "Gimme All Your Luvin'" just like they'd done with "Born This Way".
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 2:46:12 GMT -5
i'm fine with Saturday. That would work, too.
this is all so exciting!!! I think the hype for this is way greater than the hype for 4 Minutes. I can smell a top 10 hit.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 2:49:20 GMT -5
I said it generally wasn't the case. ;) Not that many songs leak. I think Interscope is capable of preventing a leak for "Gimme All Your Luvin'" just like they'd done with "Born This Way". if they had some sort of "we'll play this at midnight" thing they had for BTW, it's going to be so fucking exciting. The radio release of BTW was pretty awesome, i was there and remember every bit of it. I stayed up till 2am waiting for it. And then they played it...twice in a row. it just seems all so surreal that a 53 year old woman can be so relevant in this day and age. I'm so happy to be a fan.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 2:49:33 GMT -5
Fine, at least give me a clip lol
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Post by Mpol on Jan 11, 2012 2:50:21 GMT -5
I'm in two minds. Part of me wants it to leak the other part doesn't, for sales purposes.
At the end of the day I want it to be a great track. The leak of the demo did not really excite me. She needs to hit it hard on the first go. She's at an age where if the first single doesn't really take, it will only get harder and harder for the follow up singles to help push this project. So quality is essential.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 2:55:36 GMT -5
this is gonna leak...soon. and it's also going to be released sooner than y'all think. How do you know it'll leak?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 2:56:55 GMT -5
i think the fact that it's been so closely underwrapped from the moment the demo leaked until now MIGHT mean that it is indeed very different. Or else it might've leaked already. They've tightened security, you can tell. If it was the same exact thing, i don't think it would be so secretive. We basically know nothing at this point. We don't know the album title, the album tracklist, the album cover, the photoshoot, NOTHING! It's very mysterious.
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Post by Mpol on Jan 11, 2012 3:02:20 GMT -5
As it should be but that they have tightened their security to me doesn't mean that it will so different. I'm hoping that it is, but it could well be very simular. Infact that logic works for it being more simular. It leaked, they cracked down as it is very like what the final version will sound like.
Time will tell. I can't wait either way. SO EXCITED!
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 3:05:18 GMT -5
I love the demo, so anything more added to it can only be better!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 3:06:45 GMT -5
I love the demo, so anything more added to it can only be better! i love it, too. It's still repeating in my mind, and i haven't listened to it in over a month (or well close to it). Gimme Gimme Gimme
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Post by Mpol on Jan 11, 2012 3:07:35 GMT -5
To me it feels quite underocoked. I like some of the hooks and it's Beautiful Stranger like vibe but it needs more if it's to be up to her usual standards... but that's just me.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 3:15:32 GMT -5
The bridge on the song would be killer with fuller production, and some dubstep.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 3:16:06 GMT -5
i don't know if any of you remember, but when the snippets FIRST leaked, there was a 10 sec snippet of the chorus that was very techno-y....very polished, and not at all like the demo itself. I keep telling everyone this but no one listens. It has the same melody and structure, but it's very hard-hitting. But what i heard was only 10 sec. But it was gone in hours just like the other snippets.
it's kinda of like the difference between the album version of E.T. and the E.T. feat. Kanye remix, where the verses were harder hitting. Everything swooped in harder.
I dunno. I just remember a really hard-hitting snippet, and then it was gone. It sounded amazing. Almost the same tempo as Judas.
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 3:19:12 GMT -5
i don't know if any of you remember, but when the snippets FIRST leaked, there was a 10 sec snippet of the chorus that was very techno-y....very polished, and not at all like the demo itself. I keep telling everyone this but no one listens. It has the same melody and structure, but it's very hard-hitting. But what i heard was only 10 sec. But it was gone in hours just like the other snippets. it's kinda of like the difference between the album version of E.T. and the E.T. feat. Kanye remix, where the verses were harder hitting. Everything swooped in harder. I dunno. I just remember a really hard-hitting snippet, and then it was gone. It sounded amazing. Almost the same tempo as Judas. You weren't crazy, I heard that as well. It was with the other clips that leaked from someone recording outside of her apartment.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 3:25:27 GMT -5
i don't know if any of you remember, but when the snippets FIRST leaked, there was a 10 sec snippet of the chorus that was very techno-y....very polished, and not at all like the demo itself. I keep telling everyone this but no one listens. It has the same melody and structure, but it's very hard-hitting. But what i heard was only 10 sec. But it was gone in hours just like the other snippets. it's kinda of like the difference between the album version of E.T. and the E.T. feat. Kanye remix, where the verses were harder hitting. Everything swooped in harder. I dunno. I just remember a really hard-hitting snippet, and then it was gone. It sounded amazing. Almost the same tempo as Judas. You weren't crazy, I heard that as well. It was with the other clips that leaked from someone recording outside of her apartment. there was that low quality snippet of the first verse, that seemed awful...and there was another snippet of the chorus sped-up like 2x the normal speed (which was awesome, almost chipmunk-like). But there was also another one. A very polished studio-like maybe electro/techno version. I can't even remember it now as it's been so long. I just know for a fact there was a different version floating around that no one seems to remember besides me. It was gone in an instant, and the demo doesn't showcase that. What would it have been? i'm just SOOOOO excited!
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Post by ALEX GONE WILD on Jan 11, 2012 3:30:14 GMT -5
You weren't crazy, I heard that as well. It was with the other clips that leaked from someone recording outside of her apartment. there was that low quality snippet of the first verse, that seemed awful...and there was another snippet of the chorus sped-up like 2x the normal speed (which was awesome, almost chipmunk-like). But there was also another one. A very polished studio-like maybe electro/techno version. I can't even remember it now as it's been so long. I just know for a fact there was a different version floating around that no one seems to remember besides me. It was gone in an instant, and the demo doesn't showcase that. What would it have been? i'm just SOOOOO excited! I don't know.. remember when 4 minutes was leaking there were really strange mixes of it leaking.. like the first clips that leaked of it were like really jazzy and funky instead of the final version. Maybe it was something like that?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 11, 2012 3:35:31 GMT -5
there was that low quality snippet of the first verse, that seemed awful...and there was another snippet of the chorus sped-up like 2x the normal speed (which was awesome, almost chipmunk-like). But there was also another one. A very polished studio-like maybe electro/techno version. I can't even remember it now as it's been so long. I just know for a fact there was a different version floating around that no one seems to remember besides me. It was gone in an instant, and the demo doesn't showcase that. What would it have been? i'm just SOOOOO excited! I don't know.. remember when 4 minutes was leaking there were really strange mixes of it leaking.. like the first clips that leaked of it were like really jazzy and funky instead of the final version. Maybe it was something like that? i remember the French radio leak of 4 Minutes, and it was sped-up and awesome sounding. That got me really excited. The final version was so slow, it didn't really impress me that much (although it did well on radio). I would've preferred the former. but this snippet seemed finished. It sounded ready. It f**king kills me that I can hear it in the back of my mind, but i can't put it to words. i completely believe the inital leak was intentional, as Madonna herself was lipping the lyrics at the Smirnoff competition, so she knew it was out there already. So i think the final version was already completed, tho some will think they re-did it because of feedback or something. I think it was a demo that was indeed leaked. Plus Nicki is not on it.
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