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Post by phil1996 on Jun 4, 2012 13:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by layne on Jun 4, 2012 13:59:33 GMT -5
I hope Creepin is one of them.
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Post by phil1996 on Jun 4, 2012 14:01:49 GMT -5
I'm gonna guess Creepin/Keep On as the next single, and Like Jesus Does after, with possibly I'm Gettin' Stoned closing out the album.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2012 14:52:30 GMT -5
"Creepin'" NEEDS to be a single. I am not a huge EC fan and didn't get the album, but I cherry-picked the songs from it that I do like. "Springsteen" was a must-have--it'll go down as one of my favorite songs of all time. But "Creepin'" is definitely my 2nd favorite. I'll have to go back and listen through again, to see what else catches my attention now that some time has passed.
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 4, 2012 15:39:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that "Creepin'" will be the next single.
"Springsteen" is in a league of its own though – this song will win many awards.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 4, 2012 17:12:40 GMT -5
Church has said himself in other recent interviews that he HATES (I'm not paraphrasing, he's said that exact word) the 'mainstream" and never wants to become part of the "mainstream." I put that in quotation marks, of course, because I feel much of Church's earlier catalog had plenty of cuts that appeased "mainstream" sensibilities including "Love Your Love the Most", and "Springsteen", as great as it is, is nonetheless unmistakably his most "mainstream"-friendly release to date. When you have a single perched at #19 on the Billboard Hot 100 and nearing the summit, I think it stands to reason it has reached "mainstream" altitudes. Still, I really enjoy "Chief" because despite the pandering, stereotype-ridden songwriting on most tracks, musically it is quite interesting and actually has something that correlates with his "outlaw" posturing. The production is great and varied too. And so I'm glad that, if any of his records is going deep, it will be this one. I too think "Creepin'" should be the fourth single. "Keep On" would work too, surely, but it is less than three minutes in duration and it just doesn't impact me upon listen as well as "Creepin'" does. If Church's aim is to keep expanding his live show and concert attendance, he needs something that harnesses all the energy of his show, and "Creepin'" is by far the standout in this respect. Then, I would probably release "Like Jesus Does" as the fifth single, I love "Over When It's Over" plenty more than that track, but the latter is just too short to make an effective single. "Over When It's Over" strikes me as a fan favorite meant to remain an album cut anyway. Church could probably get away with two consecutive rockers and go with "Keep On" at any rate, but I think variety would suit him well. Plus, should "Like Jesus Does" be a hit, he could then just release one additional single as gravy and ambitiously go with "Hungover and Hard Up" or "Jack Daniels". (which I'm certain he'd want to do with the simple fact "Lovin' You anyway" isn't even on the standard edition of "Chief' and is his most radio-friendly track to date, which I feel the reason for that is because Church KNEW it would take him too far toward the mainstream). Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by layne on Jun 4, 2012 17:28:11 GMT -5
Eric can maintain all he wants that he's not like everyone else, mainstream etc but at the end of the day this song "Springsteen" has made him much like NYN made Lady A. Very commercial, mainstream and also it has crossover appeal. I am interested though in seeing if the song will get the awards that it should be in contention for.
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Post by bamafan2102 on Jun 4, 2012 18:19:51 GMT -5
Eric is mainstream......Eric's not mainstream, Eric hates old people, Eric hates Carrie Underwood and Blake Shelton, Eric smokes weed, Eric drinks too much, Eric wears sunglasses at night....blah...blah....blah.
He's the hottest thing going right now with probably the #1 song of the year and a Top 3 selling album of the year.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 4, 2012 18:29:02 GMT -5
Eric is mainstream......Eric's not mainstream, Eric hates old people, Eric hates Carrie Underwood and Blake Shelton, Eric smokes weed, Eric drinks too much, Eric wears sunglasses at night....blah...blah....blah. He's the hottest thing going right now with probably the #1 song of the year and a Top 3 selling album of the year. And your point is?
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 4, 2012 18:51:42 GMT -5
Eric is mainstream......Eric's not mainstream, Eric hates old people, Eric hates Carrie Underwood and Blake Shelton, Eric smokes weed, Eric drinks too much, Eric wears sunglasses at night....blah...blah....blah. He's the hottest thing going right now with probably the #1 song of the year and a Top 3 selling album of the year. And your point is? The point was clearly stated. I don't understand your question.
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Post by layne on Jun 4, 2012 18:58:27 GMT -5
Eric is mainstream......Eric's not mainstream, Eric hates old people, Eric hates Carrie Underwood and Blake Shelton, Eric smokes weed, Eric drinks too much, Eric wears sunglasses at night....blah...blah....blah. He's the hottest thing going right now with probably the #1 song of the year and a Top 3 selling album of the year. So were the Dixie Chicks once upon a time.
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 4, 2012 19:14:24 GMT -5
That's true. The difference here is the Dixie Chicks' controversy took immediate radio effect on them. Eric's controversy frustrated half the crowd, made the other half love him more, but blew over and never resulted in an immediate excommunication from country radio. The argument has been visited multiple times so no need to rehash it here, but the two situations are far from the same.
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Post by layne on Jun 4, 2012 19:22:08 GMT -5
That's true. The difference here is the Dixie Chicks' controversy took immediate radio effect on them. Eric's controversy frustrated half the crowd, made the other half love him more, but blew over and never resulted in an immediate excommunication from country radio. The argument has been visited multiple times so no need to rehash it here, but the two situations are far from the same. In the end, not knowing when to shut up and sing can become an issue.
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 4, 2012 19:38:17 GMT -5
I agree. It's something a lot of people could learn from, including Eric, Miranda, and every other social media user.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 5, 2012 11:44:35 GMT -5
Country No.1 Eric Church Springsteen -84 Big & Rich That's Why I Pray Please come back to Buffalo, Eric Church. Next time, play indoors at the First Niagara Center.
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 5, 2012 11:57:00 GMT -5
Country No.1 Eric Church Springsteen -84 Big & Rich That's Why I Pray Please come back to Buffalo, Eric Church. Next time, play indoors at the First Niagara Center. He's rescheduling the concert. Those fans who had tickets to the cancelled show will not have to purchase any additional tickets.
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 6, 2012 15:02:58 GMT -5
How many weeks do you guys think this will spend at #1?
Luke Bryan is about 4 Million behind Eric on Mediabase, so I'm thinking "Springsteen" could get 2 weeks at the top before "Drunk On You" takes over. It'll be interesting to watch how high the audience will get on this one.
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Post by layne on Jun 6, 2012 15:17:50 GMT -5
How many weeks do you guys think this will spend at #1? Luke Bryan is about 4 Million behind Eric on Mediabase, so I'm thinking "Springsteen" could get 2 weeks at the top before "Drunk On You" takes over. It'll be interesting to watch how high the audience will get on this one. I think at least 2 weeks. I do however get the feel that "Drunk On You" is just as big of a hit as "Springsteen"
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 7, 2012 1:56:38 GMT -5
The point was clearly stated. I don't understand your question. If his "point" was that its irrelevant to talk about Eric Church as a person because his album is selling well and his single is red hot on the charts, then it isn't a sensible one. It almost implies he should receive some sort of immunity from this dicussion because he's successful and whatever he's doing is working. That may be, but it doesn't mean he can't be put to discussion for anything other than strictly music.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 7, 2012 8:36:35 GMT -5
The point was clearly stated. I don't understand your question. If his "point" was that its irrelevant to talk about Eric Church as a person because his album is selling well and his single is red hot on the charts, then it isn't a sensible one. It almost implies he should receive some sort of immunity from this dicussion because he's successful and whatever he's doing is working. That may be, but it doesn't mean he can't be put to discussion for anything other than strictly music. I think non music related discussions are great. It tends to break up the monotony of chart talk. Until all opinions have been expressed & its no longer a current event. Then it gets redundant & seems to become more about getting the last word & swaying others opinions then stating yours. I have to wonder if you would hold the same opinion if a poster , that admitted he wasn't a fan showed up weekly to Miranda Lambert's current single thread to harp that shes a home wrecker & contributed to Blakes divorce from his first wife. I suspect not.
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 7, 2012 8:56:39 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out, I really enjoy all genres of music and hopped on country a bit late. Do not like mainstream country all too much but enjoy the occasional hits on the chart (like any other chart). Anyways, I caught this song back in the beginning of April on an AM station. It was immediate to me, but it seemed to be struggling back then on the chart, completely surprised to see it at #1, well deserved.
Anyone think this will get pushed to Hot AC\Top 40? I can't see how it wouldn't be, it's THAT good. A classic.
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Post by Marv on Jun 7, 2012 10:10:03 GMT -5
I don't think that 'controversial' Rolling Stone interview will hurt him; while Nashville doesn't like being lectured or called out by an artist (think Faith Hill), numerous contributors to the newsletters of both Lon Helton & Phyllis Stark have stated repeatedly they've always liked Eric, or Miranda, or a few others, and were just 'waiting for the right song' to put them over the top.
Suffice it to say that 'White Liar' & 'Drink In My Hand' delivered big-time, and if Eric's next 24 months turn out to be as huge for him as Miranda's past 24 months have been, he would certainly appear to be next in line to become the format's next superstar, conceivably by the end of next year, just like she did in 2010.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 7, 2012 10:16:17 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out, I really enjoy all genres of music and hopped on country a bit late. Do not like mainstream country all too much but enjoy the occasional hits on the chart (like any other chart). Anyways, I caught this song back in the beginning of April on an AM station. It was immediate to me, but it seemed to be struggling back then on the chart, completely surprised to see it at #1, well deserved. Anyone think this will get pushed to Hot AC\Top 40? I can't see how it wouldn't be, it's THAT good. A classic. If it's any indication, I'm hearing it on the XM Pop channels. Feels quite out of place tbh
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 7, 2012 10:45:58 GMT -5
The point was clearly stated. I don't understand your question. If his "point" was that its irrelevant to talk about Eric Church as a person because his album is selling well and his single is red hot on the charts, then it isn't a sensible one. It almost implies he should receive some sort of immunity from this dicussion because he's successful and whatever he's doing is working. That may be, but it doesn't mean he can't be put to discussion for anything other than strictly music. His point was clearly stated....The controversy hasn't had much bearing on where the music is headed and how successful it will become. He didn't say anything about immunity from discussions regarding anything but music. What was YOUR point in coming on the Springsteen thread just to stir up an argument? "And your point is?" is a comment that seems unneccessary and inflammatory in purpose. I am not the biggest fan of Miranda or Pickler or Swift, but you don't see me coming on those threads just to reaffirm that I think they are of low moral character, or little vocal talent, or have a gimmick that brought them success. I guess I don't understand YOUR point. You've said numerous times that you aren't a fan of Eric, so why do you continuously come on this thread that has NOTHING to do with anything outside of Springsteen solely to pick arguments? I just don't get it.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 7, 2012 12:14:11 GMT -5
I think non music related discussions are great. It tends to break up the monotony of chart talk. Until all opinions have been expressed & its no longer a current event. Then it gets redundant & seems to become more about getting the last word & swaying others opinions then stating yours. I have to wonder if you would hold the same opinion if a poster , that admitted he wasn't a fan showed up weekly to Miranda Lambert's current single thread to harp that shes a home wrecker & contributed to Blakes divorce from his first wife. I suspect not. I only pointed this out because the conversation in question had been dead and buried by a new one (about the future single options for the fourth/fifth release from the album), and then someone was once again attempting to revive it with poor execution by pushing a mandate that "well... he's successful" eradicates any need for discussion. That's all I'm saying. I'm not picking any arguments, and suggestions otherwise are in poor taste. And as a reminder, this is a music board, not an Eric Church fan board, so I'm just as entitled to come in here and read/comment on discussions as anyone else. Also, dragging artists I like in an attempt to justify that I don't belong in this thread is petty.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 7, 2012 13:09:57 GMT -5
I think non music related discussions are great. It tends to break up the monotony of chart talk. Until all opinions have been expressed & its no longer a current event. Then it gets redundant & seems to become more about getting the last word & swaying others opinions then stating yours. I have to wonder if you would hold the same opinion if a poster , that admitted he wasn't a fan showed up weekly to Miranda Lambert's current single thread to harp that shes a home wrecker & contributed to Blakes divorce from his first wife. I suspect not. I only pointed this out because the conversation in question had been dead and buried by a new one (about the future single options for the fourth/fifth release from the album), and then someone was once again attempting to revive it with poor execution by pushing a mandate that "well... he's successful" eradicates any need for discussion. That's all I'm saying. I'm not picking any arguments, and suggestions otherwise are in poor taste. And as a reminder, this is a music board, not an Eric Church fan board, so I'm just as entitled to come in here and read/comment on discussions as anyone else. Also, dragging artists I like in an attempt to justify that I don't belong in this thread is petty. Its not petty, its a parable. I didn't say I held that belief. I could see why some would though. And honestly after an initial post or two I could probably even come to respect their opinion. However if they pop into the thread every week to somehow reaffirm their opinion , I may question their motives. To keep my post somewhat relevant , I really didn't care for this song at all when the album dropped. I was on a short road trip with a dead ipod last week & heard this several times. Its really grown on me & I'm happy to see its reached #1.
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 7, 2012 13:19:49 GMT -5
I think non music related discussions are great. It tends to break up the monotony of chart talk. Until all opinions have been expressed & its no longer a current event. Then it gets redundant & seems to become more about getting the last word & swaying others opinions then stating yours. I have to wonder if you would hold the same opinion if a poster , that admitted he wasn't a fan showed up weekly to Miranda Lambert's current single thread to harp that shes a home wrecker & contributed to Blakes divorce from his first wife. I suspect not. I only pointed this out because the conversation in question had been dead and buried by a new one (about the future single options for the fourth/fifth release from the album), and then someone was once again attempting to revive it with poor execution by pushing a mandate that "well... he's successful" eradicates any need for discussion. That's all I'm saying. I'm not picking any arguments, and suggestions otherwise are in poor taste. And as a reminder, this is a music board, not an Eric Church fan board, so I'm just as entitled to come in here and read/comment on discussions as anyone else. Also, dragging artists I like in an attempt to justify that I don't belong in this thread is petty. So saying "And your point is" (that comment in its context felt rude, and seemingly had no point other than to invoke an emotional response) and discussing said point in a condescending manner is not in poor taste, but to call you out on it is? I brought up the artists that you apparently like as an example of what it feels like you are doing, as someone that doesn't like Eric. As far as I know, everyone is welcome to post in any thread, but I would expect anti-Eric views to be opposed by fans of him and his music in this thread. Perhaps your style just rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe I read too much into your comment. You and I can just agree to disagree.
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Post by dodgertown2012 on Jun 7, 2012 22:57:32 GMT -5
Looks like Eric Church is racking up his second straight #1 hit with "Springsteen." The only question is is whether he will last more than a week at the top?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 23:53:07 GMT -5
^He may be able to get a 2nd week at the top, but probably won't be able to get anymore than that with labelmate Luke Bryan right behind. I expect Eric to be #1, with Luke up to #2 on Monday's new Billboard chart. It really depends on how Capitol/EMI wants to do this...they could probably push Luke a bit next week and hold Eric to one week at the top, or they could have Luke hold at #2 a bit and keep Eric in the 'max spins column' for another week, because Luke would still be able to follow him at #1.
"Springsteen" and "Drunk On You" have been the top 2 country songs on iTunes for the last couple of months now, occasionally flip-flopping (currently Luke is just ahead of Eric). I'd like to see Eric hold strong and get a 2nd week at #1 before Luke takes over, but I guess it's not a huge deal if Eric gets just the 1 week and then Luke takes over.
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Post by kml567 on Jun 9, 2012 9:04:46 GMT -5
I can't seem to access Mediabase's daily country charts (with the actual points) anymore. Can someone give me the link again?
I wonder what is the points different between Eric and Luke? Also, Brantley is gaining like crazy this week. The infamous Borchetta push from Big Machine might make things more difficult for Capitol/EMI.
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