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Post by carriekins on Jun 9, 2012 9:47:53 GMT -5
^^ Something is up with the link today - it's only pulling up Top 40.
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Post by someguy on Jun 10, 2012 10:25:38 GMT -5
How many weeks do you guys think this will spend at #1? Luke Bryan is about 4 Million behind Eric on Mediabase, so I'm thinking "Springsteen" could get 2 weeks at the top before "Drunk On You" takes over. It'll be interesting to watch how high the audience will get on this one. I'm hopeful that he'll get a second week at #1. He's far enough ahead that he could hold off Luke Bryan if the label really wanted to, but I wonder how much of a hurry they're in to send out the next single. I'll predict that he will get a second week, but I guess we'll know better by Tuesday or so. I re-listened to his album (which I really like), and "Over When It's Over" is the song that really stands out to me (besides the last two singles). I hope that sees a release at some point, especially if he's talking about releasing five singles.
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Post by phil1996 on Jun 10, 2012 10:57:54 GMT -5
I hope he releases that, but it's so short. Then again, Eric Church hates mainstream stuff, so every song on the album is a single contender.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Jun 10, 2012 11:02:57 GMT -5
Over When It's Over is definitely my favorite left of the non-singles. I wish Carolina would've been the album to go five singles deep.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jun 10, 2012 20:01:34 GMT -5
I only pointed this out because the conversation in question had been dead and buried by a new one (about the future single options for the fourth/fifth release from the album), and then someone was once again attempting to revive it with poor execution by pushing a mandate that "well... he's successful" eradicates any need for discussion. No. You assumed that is what bamafan2012 meant, but there is plenty of room to question your interpretation -- room that ought to have conditioned the dogmatism and tone of your response. As I read it, bamafan2102 was doing little more than pointing out that for all the controversy Eric Church has generated of late, his commercial success doesn't appear to have suffered. That isn't the same thing as saying his commercial success eradicates the need for any discussion. And as a reminder, this is a music board, not an Eric Church fan board, so I'm just as entitled to come in here and read/comment on discussions as anyone else. Also, dragging artists I like in an attempt to justify that I don't belong in this thread is petty. For future reference, this is generally true, but not true to the point of giving anyone license to repeat themselves with no additional substantive commentary added. We do have a Pulse rule against repeatedly trashing an artist in the same topic in a way that isn't about moving discussion forward but is about getting in the last word and/or upsetting other posters. I'm glad you folks have agreed to disagree, but I would suggest that the next time you're feeling snippy, don't post, especially not on a subject that already evokes bad feelings. Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions or concerns. In the meantime, please do continue back on topic here. Thanks.
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Post by dodgertown2012 on Jun 10, 2012 21:23:10 GMT -5
I agree. This is not the place for artist bashing or comment fights with other board members. Comments leading to negative emotional responses could be saved for another site like YT, which can be a free-for-all for nasty comments and unfortunately, it's allowed and "haters" get away with posting vulgar language and pointless negative opinions. Yes, I'm a newbie to this board and just learning the board rules and no, I'm not accusing anyone here of using profanity. I'm sorry my writing skills are not college level like a lot of members here. Anyways, I want to congratulate Eric Church for scoring his second consecutive #1 with "Springsteen." Keep up the good work Eric!
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Post by Marv on Jun 10, 2012 22:18:35 GMT -5
So do a lot of us dodgertown2012, and welcome to the board.
I'm also delighted that EC is back in the penthouse; his music is certainly 'out there', but his fans and radio listeners love his music, and that's all that matters.
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Post by austin on Jun 11, 2012 7:00:06 GMT -5
Over When It's Over is definitely my favorite left of the non-singles. I wish Carolina would've been the album to go five singles deep. I always forget how great Over When It's Over is. For whatever reason, I overlook it when I play his music on my iPod. Maybe because it is so short. But it is terrific, and despite how short it is, I think it'd be a strong single.
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Post by phil1996 on Jun 11, 2012 12:08:45 GMT -5
Over When It's Over is definitely my favorite left of the non-singles. I wish Carolina would've been the album to go five singles deep. Without You Here, Where She Told Me To Go, Carolina, or Ain't Killed Me Yet would've done great. Besides the 1st 3 singles, nothing really is radio friendly on this album, besides Like Jesus Does. So that shows that he truely hates mainstream.
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Post by carriekins on Jun 11, 2012 12:15:28 GMT -5
Officially #1 according to his Facebook (not that there is any surprise there). Congrats to Eric!
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Post by phil1996 on Jun 12, 2012 10:23:35 GMT -5
Eric Church did 6 songs at LP Field for the CMA Fest.
He performed his hits "Love Your Love The Most", "Drink in my Hand", "Guys Like Me", "Smoke A Little Smoke", "Springsteen", and....... "Creepin". Have to think, by that setlist, that "Creepin" will be creepin' its way to country radio in the coming days.
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 12, 2012 10:55:40 GMT -5
I think you're correct, Phil.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 13:30:01 GMT -5
I hope it's "Creepin'"...I just LOVE that one. Anyway, so glad this made it to #1. And I really love how the BCU made mention of Mike Dungan's quotes last year, when "Homeboy" had just peaked at #13: Sometimes confident predictions turn out to be more than just cheerleading. When Eric Church surprised the industry with simultaneous No. 1 debuts on the Billboard 200 and Billboardโs Top Country Albums with Chief last summer, then-Capitol/EMI Nashville president Mike Dungan (now in a similar role at Universal Music Group Nashville) predicted a pair of back-to-back No. 1 singles from the album. โI can comfortably project that our next single will be a No. 1 single at radio, which will be massive for him, because we havenโt had anything near that so far. And then weโll follow it up with another No. 1. I feel very comfortable with that,โ Dungan said in the Aug. 8, 2011, edition of Billboard Country Update.
Dungan made the prediction two weeks after the albumโs lead single, โHomeboy,โ peaked at No. 13 on the July 30, 2011, installment of Billboardโs Hot Country Songs chart, then made good on the first half of the projection when second single โDrink in My Handโ capped the Jan. 28 chart. Although it seemed uncharacteristically bold at the time, the promise of Dunganโs prediction is fully realized this week, as third single โSpringsteenโ becomes the artistโs second No. 1 on Hot Country Songs (2-1). The new No. 1 reaches the summit four weeks faster (19 weeks) than his first, which needed 23 weeks to ring the top bell. On its way to No. 1 on the audience list, โSpringsteenโ dominated Billboardโs Country Digital Songs for four weeks, with sales of more than 1.1 million downloads, according to Nielsen SoundScan. "Creepin'" would be the perfect follow-up, but I honestly will probably never tire of hearing "Springsteen". And it looks like they may go for a 2nd week...Luke Bryan did have a strong 560k gain in today's update, but Eric was still up 330k, and there was that nice ad in the BCU that said "#1 and still growing!" "Springsteen" is at a higher audience level (37.921 million) than most #1 songs have been at for the past couple of months, but there is still some room to grow, as songs like Luke Bryan's "I Don't Want This Night To End" and Chris Young's "You" hit 40 and 39 million, respectively, back in February.
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Post by kim8 on Jun 12, 2012 14:39:05 GMT -5
I hope it's Creepin too. I think that song is just so unique in many ways. I love the different tempo changes and the way he sounds like he's far away in the beginning and then it comes in louder and clearer. It's really a cool song. I'm not 100% sure how receptive radio will be to it though. I hope they embrace it with open arms!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 12, 2012 15:09:20 GMT -5
For the record, I don't consistently post negative comments in this thread. I looked back through it and I haven't posted in here that much at all. Most of the 'anti-Eric Church' discussion took place in that Country News & Other Non-Singles thread.
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Not sure why the short length of Over When It's Over would make it any less suited for radio. Its roughly the same length as his first two Top 10 hits from 2009.
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Post by Kanenrรก:ke on Jun 12, 2012 20:36:32 GMT -5
I keep seeing people say how he's not mainstream but I have yet to hear any song from him that wasn't geared directly at the mainstream especially "Drink In My Hand" and "Love Your Love The Most". I mean "Smoke A Litlte Smoke" was maybe a little off the normal topic of what most would record but otherwise everything he records seems really mainstream to me. I always laugh when he or a fan reffers to his stuff as non mainstream. That's not to say I dislike his music, I'm 50/50 on that, this current single is great, "His Kind Of Money", "Two Pink Lines", "Lightening", "Sinners Like Me" and "Drink In My Hand" are all also great, but I just find he's trying too hard to be something he's not. Maybe That's just me.
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Post by zaclord ๐ on Jun 12, 2012 22:00:20 GMT -5
I think "Homeboy" was a little out of the norm too, but other than that and "Smoke", I completely agree that all his singles have been pretty mainstream.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 13, 2012 9:33:27 GMT -5
On a side note, Eric Church's postponed Buffalo show will be June 28th at Darien Lake. JT Hodges will open.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 1:09:34 GMT -5
Up almost 1 million in the first 2 days of the week--this should easily get a 2nd week at #1 before Luke's "Drunk On You" takes over. There's an outside chance that this song could be the 1st ever to hit 52 million AI's on Mediabase in the next few days, and it also may take a stab at 40 million AI's on Billboard, which is a rare feat. Five songs did so in the past year--"Honey Bee", "Knee Deep", "Take A Back Road", "God Gave Me You", and "I Don't Want This Night To End"--but that was when BOTH Dallas stations were still on the panel, and neither of them is anymore since they don't play enough current music. Before "Honey Bee", you have to go way back to Toby Keith's "As Good As I Once Was" in 2005 to find a song that cracked the 40 million mark on Billboard.
Suffice it to say, tossing out weeks at #1 (since this likely won't get more than 2), "Springsteen" will be the biggest hit of the year so far.
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Post by longdistancerunner on Jun 14, 2012 5:50:16 GMT -5
^whoa! a possible 52 million! That makes it even more of a shame he got the shaft for one week just so Good Girl could get to the top. Talk about golf course deals and rigged charts...that was disgusting to watch. I never would have thought this would become the biggest hit of the year. So it seems a small cluster of songs hit 40 million but which was the highest or closest to 52?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 12:13:18 GMT -5
I don't think any song has ever hit 52 million on Mediabase before, but that's only because Mediabase adjusted their audience numbers (due to new arbitron ratings) back in February or March. Before that, the #1 songs usually had anywhere from 40-42 million.
So you really can't compare, lol. But compared to recent #1's, "Springsteen" has more audience on both charts than "Somethin' 'Bout A Truck", "Fly Over States", "Drink On It", "Alone With You", "A Woman Like You", etc.
Luke Bryan's "I Don't Want This Night To End" only peaked with about 43 million on Mediabase, but again, that was before the audience numbers got adjusted there. On Billboard, he peaked with 40.001 million AI's, and there's an outside chance "Springsteen" could be at or very near the 40 million mark on the next BB chart...but the thing is, when Luke was at his peak then, the Billboard panel still included KPLX and KSCS in Dallas (both have since been removed since they weren't playing enough current music) and those 2 stations combined can add 1.5 to 2 million AI's to a song at the top of the chart. Eric's getting these high numbers all without a major market like Dallas, albeit the trend these days is for stations to spin their 'powers' more, but still. Big numbers for Eric.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 14, 2012 15:59:58 GMT -5
Just came from AllAccess and they are showing an audience impression of 51.752 million.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 14, 2012 16:42:38 GMT -5
I think "Homeboy" was a little out of the norm too, but other than that and "Smoke", I completely agree that all his singles have been pretty mainstream. Particularly on the lyrical front. Most of his songs are about smoking marijuana, drinking and relationships. Oh, and a song titled "Lotta Boot Left To Fill." That is stereotypical country music in a nutshell. Until he stretches himself into thematic territory that dwells outside of that triad of tired themes, I won't take that 'anti-mainstream" claim seriously. Or at the very least, if he insists on continuing to tackle those topics, go even further like Jamey Johnson did with "Can't Cash My Checks" and talk about trying to grow your own marijuana farm, or tackle the highs and lows of relationships in a less-tackled light (maybe ones that reside outside the monogamy fairytale). Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by Marv on Jun 14, 2012 18:10:31 GMT -5
Those are phenomenal numbers for Eric or anybody else, and will undoubtedly secure 'Springsteen' a spot in the year-end top ten at both trades.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 22:45:37 GMT -5
Just came from AllAccess and they are showing an audience impression of 51.752 million. Yeah, he had a smaller update today and is starting to level out a bit, because at this point, he's about maxed out in audience. It's possible that he sneaks over 52 million in the coming days, and he could even do it as early as tomorrow.
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Post by jaseboyhyde on Jun 15, 2012 19:30:24 GMT -5
I think "Homeboy" was a little out of the norm too, but other than that and "Smoke", I completely agree that all his singles have been pretty mainstream. Particularly on the lyrical front. Most of his songs are about smoking marijuana, drinking and relationships. Oh, and a song titled "Lotta Boot Left To Fill." That is stereotypical country music in a nutshell. Until he stretches himself into thematic territory that dwells outside of that triad of tired themes, I won't take that 'anti-mainstream" claim seriously. Or at the very least, if he insists on continuing to tackle those topics, go even further like Jamey Johnson did with "Can't Cash My Checks" and talk about trying to grow your own marijuana farm, or tackle the highs and lows of relationships in a less-tackled light (maybe ones that reside outside the monogamy fairytale). Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS Hi HIBISCUS. I think he ventures outside the realm of mainstream much more often than most modern artists. Lightning, and Two Pink Lines (one that deals outside the monogamy fairytale relationship issues) were two of his earlier songs that didn't receive a ton of airplay. Capitol punishment and teen pregnancy aren't often covered by mainstream country. Of course you mentioned Smoke a little smoke and homeboy. I'm gettin' Stoned and Jack Daniels, while in your triad of tired themes, take a different approach to the subjects as "Smoke a Little Smoke" did. I think part of the genius of Songwriters and artists today is that they compete with the ever-growing multitude of past songs of the same themes, while overcoming the obstacle of making them lyrically original. Any song written today has been done before, almost without exception. Those artists that can cover the same topics with a new spin are the ones that I appreciate. I think Eric does a good job with that. Just my opinion. I always appreciate yours.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 15, 2012 23:06:49 GMT -5
Particularly on the lyrical front. Most of his songs are about smoking marijuana, drinking and relationships. Oh, and a song titled "Lotta Boot Left To Fill." That is stereotypical country music in a nutshell. Until he stretches himself into thematic territory that dwells outside of that triad of tired themes, I won't take that 'anti-mainstream" claim seriously. Or at the very least, if he insists on continuing to tackle those topics, go even further like Jamey Johnson did with "Can't Cash My Checks" and talk about trying to grow your own marijuana farm, or tackle the highs and lows of relationships in a less-tackled light (maybe ones that reside outside the monogamy fairytale). Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS Hi HIBISCUS. I think he ventures outside the realm of mainstream much more often than most modern artists. Lightning, and Two Pink Lines (one that deals outside the monogamy fairytale relationship issues) were two of his earlier songs that didn't receive a ton of airplay. Capitol punishment and teen pregnancy aren't often covered by mainstream country. Of course you mentioned Smoke a little smoke and homeboy. I'm gettin' Stoned and Jack Daniels, while in your triad of tired themes, take a different approach to the subjects as "Smoke a Little Smoke" did. I think part of the genius of Songwriters and artists today is that they compete with the ever-growing multitude of past songs of the same themes, while overcoming the obstacle of making them lyrically original. Any song written today has been done before, almost without exception. Those artists that can cover the same topics with a new spin are the ones that I appreciate. I think Eric does a good job with that. Just my opinion. I always appreciate yours. I'll agree with you that "Two Pink Lines" and "Lightning" are exceptions to the rule and do approach lesser-talked about topics. For the record, again, I really enjoy the whole of "Chief" for the production primarily. "Jack Daniels" sounds great and has a nice, blues-leaning back-porch vibe, I agree. But can you really say with a straight face that either that or "I'm Getting Stoned" provide anything new to the songwriting crop? I beg to differ. Lyrically they're extremely serviceable, have effective punch-lines ("Jack Daniels kicked my (bleep) again last night!") and make great sing-alongs, but in spite of that neither are original at all. Both are rooted in the "she-done-me-wrong-and-now-her-memory-is-gettin'-the-best-of-me" vein..........in drinking , or smoking, someone away (not to mention name-dropping Superman again in "Jack Daniels" just as he did in "Drink In My Hand"). * I don't see any new spin here. It's not to say I don't like either song, or that I don't like the way either song sounds. I actually enjoy them both a lot, especially in how they're executed. But they are extremely safe in the vein of mainstream country music, and cater directly to the tired topics country listeners expect. Conversely, take a song like Brett Eldredge's "Raymond." Musically, it is pretty middle-of-the-road and though it has some neotraditionalist touches, still comes across as safe. Lyrically, however.........it really stands out, in tackling a topic seldom covered in contemporary country music: Alzheimer's disease. And I have great respect for him tackling what is such a fiercely sensitive topic like that, as Church did with a song like "Lightning". Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 17, 2012 20:37:58 GMT -5
"Springsteen" is truly earning a 2nd week at #1 โ still putting up impressive numbers to remain at the top.
Luke Bryan has the highest audience that I can remember seeing for a #2 in quite a while.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 17, 2012 21:41:04 GMT -5
Honestly the top 4 are incredibly high right now. Summer is definitely in full swing on the charts.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 18, 2012 9:16:29 GMT -5
O.K., joey2002, this was your response on the Drunk On You Thread: Re: Luke Bryan - "Drunk On You" ยซ Reply #52 Today at 12:51am ยป
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't worry, nothing difficult here... this will easily be #1 next week.
Brantley also has a huge hit on his hands, but he'll have to wait a week to reach the top.
So, who is going to be #1 this week, Eric Church or Luke Bryan? Just asking!
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