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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 5, 2012 16:02:37 GMT -5
Slant has started its best of the 80s list, and albums are up first (we can put the Songs list in this thread as well- not sure if it will start next week or not). Looks like Prince has the most entries (seven). He certainly was prolific, and he did produce top-notch work. www.slantmagazine.com/music/feature/best-albums-of-the-80s/308/page_181-10081. R.E.M., Reckoning 82. Sonic Youth, EVOL 83. Brian Eno and David Byrne, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts 84. Afrika Bambaataa & Soulsonic Force, Planet Rock: The Album 85. The Clash, Sandinista! 86. The Human League, Dare! 87. Tom Tom Club, Tom Tom Club 88. Pet Shop Boys, Actually 89. Talking Heads, Speaking in Tongues 90. Metallica, Master of Puppet 91. Meat Puppets, Meat Puppets II 92. My Bloody Valentine, Isn't Anything 93. The Fall, This Nation's Saving Grace 94. U2, War 95. Tears for Fears, Songs from the Big Chair 96. Talk Talk, The Colour of Spring 97. George Clinton, Computer Games 98. X, Los Angeles 99. Slick Rick, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick 100. Soul II Soul, Club Classics Vol. One
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Post by bryce on Mar 5, 2012 16:07:11 GMT -5
Rhythm Nation 1814 better be in the top 50...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 16:10:01 GMT -5
The Clash ususally wins these lists
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 5, 2012 16:16:00 GMT -5
I imagine Like a Prayer will be Madonna's top-ranked album. perhaps the debut album will appear, too. Like a Virgin and True Blue had some great, impactful singles, but not sure if the albums as a whole will garner enough love from Slant's critics to appear.
I expect both Control and Rhythm Nation 1814 to appear.
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Post by Honeymoon on Mar 5, 2012 16:21:58 GMT -5
Blondie - Autoamerican please, but I feel it's going to be absent :(
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 5, 2012 16:24:14 GMT -5
Both of Janet's album better be high. I hope Whitney's debut is there as well.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 5, 2012 16:29:18 GMT -5
Control usually gets more love than the follow-up, but, yes, both should be present.
Whitney's albums don't get as much critical love as some others, but the debut would be the one that would get cited, if there's a Whitney Houston album to be present.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Mar 5, 2012 16:41:12 GMT -5
My girl better be high on the list
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 16:50:57 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 5, 2012 17:01:26 GMT -5
London Calling was released in December 1979 outside the USA, but in January 1980 in the USA- so, yeah, I'd think it will place pretty high. :)
None of Prince's seven albums have appeared yet. Michael Jackson's Thriller undoubtedly will en d up high. Also imagine we'll see more Public Enemy. R.E.M. and Sonic Youth, The Smiths, Joy Division, The Stone Roses, Pixies, Kate Bush, New Order and other acclaimed 80s efforts.
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Post by Honeymoon on Mar 5, 2012 17:36:29 GMT -5
Reading some of Slant's past reviews on Whitney's albums they never seemed like particularly big fans so I'm not sure if even the debut will be able to appear on the list, although I personally think it deserves to be.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 5, 2012 18:19:49 GMT -5
It's so odd that best of the 80s lists often contain a lot of mainstream or memorable names while a Best of the 2000s list will often contain mostly unknowns and indie music.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 18:59:39 GMT -5
Rolling Stone 80s list - top 10
See the full list of 100 best albums of the 1980s here. 1. The Clash, "London Calling" This album could not have come at a more perfect time or from a more appropriate band than the Clash. Released stateside in January 1980, with the decade but a pup and the new year in gear, "London Calling" was an emergency broadcast from rock's Last Angry Band, serving notice that Armageddon was nigh, Western society was rotten at the core, and rock & roll needed a good boot in the rear. 2. Prince and the Revolution, "Purple Rain" Released in tandem with the film of the same name, "Purple Rain" was more than simply a soundtrack, and it stands as Prince's most cohesive and accessible album. "He envisioned the film as he made the album," says Alan Leeds, vice-president of Paisley Park Records, Prince's label. "He had a vision in his mind of the film a year before he got in front of the cameras, and he wrote the music to that vision." 3. U2, "The Joshua Tree" "The Joshua Tree" is the rather esoterically titled album he's referring to -- a title that even the typically solemn Bono could joke about. 500 Greatest Albums of All Time: 'London Calling' by the Clash 4. Talking Heads, "Remain in Light" "Remain in Light" may have been a commercial disappointment, but musically, the band's 1980 album -- which combines funk, disco and African rhythms -- was years ahead of its time. "It got great critical acclaim, and we felt that it kind of took popular music to the next phase," says Frantz, "which is what we always wanted to do." 5. Paul Simon, "Graceland" The journey to "Graceland" began with an unlabeled cassette tape that guitarist Heidi Berg gave to Simon, who listened to it incessantly, without knowing what it was, throughout the summer of 1984.
6. Bruce Springsteen, "Born in the U.S.A." "Born in the U.S.A." -- the album, the song and the sixteen-month tour -- turned out to be the breakthrough that Springsteen fans had been expecting for a decade. The influential Jersey musician became the world's biggest rock star -- and a bona fide American icon, to boot. 7. Michael Jackson, "Thriller" "Thriller," reportedly recorded for $750,000, has sold more than 40 million copies worldwide -- and it still sells. It earned Jackson over 150 gold and platinum awards worldwide and a record seven Grammys.
8. R.E.M., "Murmur" The members of R.E.M. incorporated elements of folk and country music into pop that was, by turns, bright and murky. Theirs was a quasi-traditional yet boundary-breaking sound that served as a blueprint for alternative bands throughout America for the rest of the decade. 9. Richard and Linda Thompson, "Shoot Out the Lights" "Even in the best days of our marriage, Richard and I didn't communicate with each other fabulously well," says Linda Thompson. "I think that the reason the music was good was that we tended to save it for work." Perhaps that explains why "Shoot Out the Lights" is both the best and last album Richard and Linda Thompson made together. 10. Tracy Chapman, "Tracy Chapman" Tracy Chapman was discovered in 1987 by fellow Tufts University student Brian Koppelman. "I was helping organize a boycott protest against apartheid at school, and someone told me there was this great protest singer I should get to play at the rally," says Koppelman, who now works in A&R at Elektra. He went to see Chapman perform at a coffeehouse called Cappuccino. "Tracy walked onstage, and it was like an epiphany," he says. "Her presence, her voice, her songs, her sincerity -- it all came across."
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Post by Honeymoon on Mar 5, 2012 19:00:26 GMT -5
It's so odd that best of the 80s lists often contain a lot of mainstream or memorable names while a Best of the 2000s list will often contain mostly unknowns and indie music. Maybe it's a time perspective thing? Maybe in 20 years we will see Gaga, Rihanna, Lil Wayne on top of these lists for the 2000s as they become less ubiquitous and more associated with the time period.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 19:13:34 GMT -5
Commercial success and critcal success have never been the same thing
Even many of the albums posted here so far were not that commercially successful
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 5, 2012 23:37:21 GMT -5
Yah- a lot of lists contain both indie and mainstream releases. Also, some outlets include more mainstream titles than others.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2012 9:14:52 GMT -5
61. Talking Heads, Stop Making Sense 62. George Michael, Faith 63. Tina Turner, Private Dancer 64. Pretenders, Pretenders 65. Run-D.M.C., Raising Hell. 66. The Replacements, Tim 67. XTC, Skylarking 68. Elvis Costello and the Attractions, Get Happy!! 69. The Smiths, Strangeways, Here We Come 70. Lou Reed, New York 71. Kate Bush, The Dreaming 72. Sonic Youth, Sister 73. HΓΌsker DΓΌ, Zen Arcade 74. Cocteau Twins, Treasure 75. Depeche Mode, Music for the Masses 76. Art of Noise, Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise? 77. Minutemen, Double Nickels on the Dime 78. The Bangles, Different Light 79. The Cure, Pornography 80. The Clash, Combat Rock
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 9:40:26 GMT -5
I don't see a lot of commercial appeal in this post either. This may end up being just a slight variation of many of the lists from this era that have come before it.
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Post by renfield75 on Mar 6, 2012 9:48:58 GMT -5
Since Prince is my favorite artist, I'm pretty pleased to see him getting his due (7 albums in the top 60!?!?) although it technically said he "had a hand in creating" 7 albums on the list. So that could also mean the Time, the Bangles, or (less likely) Sheila E. turning up. All of Prince's 80s albums except Batman are critically lauded, but I can't see 'Around The World In A Day' in the top 60. 'Lovesexy,' 'Controversy,' and 'Parade' are possible and 'Dirty Mind,' '1999,' 'Purple Rain,' and 'Sign 'O' The Times' are locks.
And Life In Technicolor, I agree with you about Blondie's 'Autoamerican' but critics have never been overly kind to that album. Unfortunately 'Parallel Lines' is usually the only Blondie album that turns up on any kind of list.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 6, 2012 9:50:27 GMT -5
Commercial success and critcal success have never been the same thing Even many of the albums posted here so far were not that commercially successful But they're recognizable. I can probably, at the very least, name a song from most of the albums on the list or recognize a tune or something. Most of the artist names I recognize as well. And I'm someone who listens very little to music from the 80s. Whereas the recent decade-lists for the 2000s, there were tons of artists that I still don't even recognize as being familiar in any sense of the word. Just an interesting observation on my part, is all.
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Post by renfield75 on Mar 6, 2012 9:51:55 GMT -5
Ah, just noticed the Bangles' 'Different Light' at number 78. Since it contains "Manic Monday," which Prince wrote under the pseudonym Christopher, I'm guessing that counts as one of the 7 albums he had a hand in creating.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2012 9:55:32 GMT -5
I glossed over the "had-a-hand-in" comment- usually Slant has pictured the act who had the most entries on the list. It may well be that even with his own albums,. Prince has the most entries (which would make saense).
Slant does a nice job of balancing lauded commercially successful acts with lesser commercially successful, but still recognizable, acts. There are so many lists out there where most of the names are foreign to me. Just goes to show how much lauded music is out there outside the commercial arena.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 9:59:58 GMT -5
But they're recognizable. I can probably, at the very least, name a song from most of the albums on the list or recognize a tune or something. Most of the artist names I recognize as well. And I'm someone who listens very little to music from the 80s. Whereas the recent decade-lists for the 2000s, there were tons of artists that I still don't even recognize as being familiar in any sense of the word. Just an interesting observation on my part, is all. Perhaps a sign that critically acclaimed music holds up better than that which is commerically successful? A large percentage of the 80s records were in the same boat when that decade ended as the 00s ones are now, but who's to say the modern albums won't be just as well known as these are now in twenty years time?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 6, 2012 10:59:42 GMT -5
After Violator this is my favorite album of theirs. Faith seems a bit low. I expected it to make the top 50 at least.
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Post by renfield75 on Mar 6, 2012 13:46:15 GMT -5
I glossed over the "had-a-hand-in" comment- usually Slant has pictured the act who had the most entries on the list. It may well be that even with his own albums,. Prince has the most entries (which would make saense). Slant does a nice job of balancing lauded commercially successful acts with lesser commercially successful, but still recognizable, acts. There are so many lists out there where most of the names are foreign to me. Just goes to show how much lauded music is out there outside the commercial arena. You know, actually, they could possibly even be including 'Like A Prayer' in Prince's tally. He co-wrote, sang on, and produced "Love Song" and played some guitar on "Like A Prayer" and "Act Of Contrition." That would count as 'had a hand in.' Even though "Love Song" is hardly a high point for either Prince or Madonna, I wish our two favorites would have done more collaborating back then. It could have been interesting...
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2012 18:48:42 GMT -5
^I agree- "Love Song" is kinda jarring when you first hear it (and maybe even some time thereafter). It took me a while to appreciate it for the quirky track that it is. And without it, we may not have gotten the glorious "Hung Up." ;)
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Post by Honeymoon on Mar 6, 2012 20:11:56 GMT -5
To be honest, I'm not even sure Madonna remembers she recorded "Love Song". I do really like it though
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2012 21:44:45 GMT -5
^How could she not, when she incorporated the following lyrics into "Hung Up":
Time goes by slowly for those who wait Those who run seem to have all the fun
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Post by Honeymoon on Mar 6, 2012 21:57:36 GMT -5
^How could she not, when she incorporated the following lyrics into "Hung Up": Time goes by slowly for those who wait Those who run seem to have all the fun :) True, I don't think she's ever acknowledged it otherwise. Which is strange because it was a collaboration between two of the biggest (besides MJ and maybe Whitney) music icons of the 80s. You wouldn't think it would be so ignored.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 6, 2012 22:23:44 GMT -5
Yeah, she only really talked about the collaboration upon the release of the LAP album.
Prince also played guitar on "Keep it Together," "Act of Contrition" and on one of the 12-inch "Like a Prayer" mixes.
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