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Post by nightshade on Apr 11, 2012 14:57:32 GMT -5
2nd Single off of Trespassing will be "Never Close Our Eyes"! SourceI hope this goes top 15/20 on Pop. Of the songs we've heard, I feel this has the most hit-potential. Adam posted an audio snippet of the song in late March. Listen here.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Apr 11, 2012 15:01:56 GMT -5
This was hands down my favorite of the 3 or 4 we heard. But is it featuring Bruno Mars? I heard a version with him at the beginning. Unless Bruno cut it at some point in demo form.
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Post by Jack on Apr 11, 2012 15:25:19 GMT -5
For the record, I LOVED Better Than I Know Myself. I know I seem to be the only one, but just putting that out there before we move on.
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Post by cosem on Apr 11, 2012 15:30:09 GMT -5
This was hands down my favorite of the 3 or 4 we heard. But is it featuring Bruno Mars? I heard a version with him at the beginning. Unless Bruno cut it at some point in demo form. No, it doesn't feature Bruno Mars. Bruno wrote it and there is an old demo floating around plus a fan-made mash-up with both of them. I'm happy with this choice. I really love this song and think it can do well on radio. Here is a recent acoustic performance of NCOE:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 15:51:45 GMT -5
Sounds lacking in the same manner as "Better Than I Know Myself" after one listen to the snippet.
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Post by kingofpain on Apr 11, 2012 15:53:46 GMT -5
Yikes, what happened to BTIKM? Did that song completely bomb?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 15:56:53 GMT -5
Yikes, what happened to BTIKM? Did that song completely bomb? Yes. It got a #50 peak thanks to recurrents/purges (it was already beginning to fall when it finally broke the top 50) and then was out of the top 50 the Tuesday after.
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Post by wastedtime on Apr 11, 2012 17:51:07 GMT -5
Oh. I was hoping for Naked Love.
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Post by slamina on Apr 11, 2012 20:01:16 GMT -5
I thought Cuckoo was the most radio-friendly of the snippets. I would have gone with that. Sounds lacking in the same manner as "Better Than I Know Myself" after one listen to the snippet. Yeah, I agree. Something about this is forgettable to me like BTIKM was.
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Post by bb on Apr 11, 2012 20:05:33 GMT -5
There's nothing about this, that, in my opinion, will do anything "Better Than I Know Myself" couldn't--- it sounds fairly similar and it doesn't offer anything more instant. I have heard "Cuckoo" and I do think it's the stronger song, but with some extensive promotion and a big push from the label, this could probably make top twenty. I do really like it, I'm just especially skeptical, seeing as the lead single performed so terribly.
I think he needs a more instant smash to salvage this already struggling era, and this doesn't feel like it. I hope it does well!
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Post by tambien on Apr 11, 2012 20:34:42 GMT -5
I will wait 'til I have heard the entire song in its final mixed version before deciding if I like it and if it will do well on radio (which I don't really care about but of course Adam and RCA do). I think it has potential and this snippet has better sound than the one posted up top: idolator.com/6344092/adam-lambert-never-close-our-eyes-single-cover
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Post by liberalmusiclover on Apr 11, 2012 20:43:32 GMT -5
P!nk should write more songs for him.
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Post by secretchef on Apr 11, 2012 20:48:48 GMT -5
BTIKM looks too have peaked at #17 on HAC.
I can't wait to hear the final production on this. This is my favorite of the snippets.
Reminds me of We Found Love or Where Have You Been, fast beat, mid verses that Adam can actually sing.
Well the good thing is RCA has lined up CHR spring concerts the week of album drop. No guarantee for spins, but it should help. KISS Chicago, KISS Boston, KTU NYC and Q102 Philly and CT. Come on RCA!
I wonder when we can hear it?
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Post by foxxden on Apr 11, 2012 21:47:16 GMT -5
There's nothing about this, that, in my opinion, will do anything "Better Than I Know Myself" couldn't--- it sounds fairly similar and it doesn't offer anything more instant. I have heard "Cuckoo" and I do think it's the stronger song, but with some extensive promotion and a big push from the label, this could probably make top twenty. I do really like it, I'm just especially skeptical, seeing as the lead single performed so terribly. I think he needs a more instant smash to salvage this already struggling era, and this doesn't feel like it. I hope it does well! I agree, this really isn't that different melodically or tempo wise as "BTIKM". Plus slower paced songs don't tend to fare as well during the Spring/Summer...my vote (based on the clips) would have been to release "Cuckoo". Seems like RCA is hoping that the Bruno writing cred will provide a push of its own.
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Post by slayZ on Apr 11, 2012 22:11:19 GMT -5
lol utter flop. :(
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Post by lucytor on Apr 11, 2012 22:13:24 GMT -5
There's nothing about this, that, in my opinion, will do anything "Better Than I Know Myself" couldn't--- it sounds fairly similar and it doesn't offer anything more instant. I have heard "Cuckoo" and I do think it's the stronger song, but with some extensive promotion and a big push from the label, this could probably make top twenty. I do really like it, I'm just especially skeptical, seeing as the lead single performed so terribly. I think he needs a more instant smash to salvage this already struggling era, and this doesn't feel like it. I hope it does well! Here's the link to the album ncoe snippet. soundcloud.com/adamofficial/never-close-our-eyes The album version is quite different from the acoustic version linked above, and VERY different from btikm. First of all, it's faster. It also has a very definable, dancey hook, which btikm lacked. I don't know if it will make it or not on radio, but I see little similarity in the two songs.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Apr 11, 2012 22:20:23 GMT -5
This entire project, regardless of quality, is probably doomed.
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Post by saga on Apr 11, 2012 22:23:25 GMT -5
Oh I love this song, so happy they picked it for second single. I think it's radio katnip!
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Post by secretchef on Apr 11, 2012 22:35:51 GMT -5
Of the 4 snippets, NCOE is the fastest at 130 bpm. Cuckoo was the slowest.
If they didn't vet the choices to pds for the last month during promo, they weren't doing their job.
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Post by snowflakes on Apr 11, 2012 22:59:53 GMT -5
This was a good choice for radio and one of my favorites of the snippets. I can't wait to hear the final mix version that will be sent to radio. Adam said in an interview today that this was the song the PDs wanted to go with. It was a choice between 3 songs I think. Can't say this song wasn't vetted when he was doing radio promo so hopefully they're on board. I don't think this era is doomed. The album isn't even out and most of the general public when you step away from the internet haven't heard BTIKM very much which had only 5 million audience impression. #2 seems to be Adam's lucky number so we'll see how it all works at the end.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 11, 2012 23:16:32 GMT -5
I really don't know why Idols struggle so much with their 2nd releases. I mean, we haven't had a successful sophomore project from an Idol contestant since what, Daughtry?
In some ways I think half of the artists who come from Idol would've been better off without Idol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 23:25:18 GMT -5
Love this. I haven't lost faith in this era just yet.
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Post by strawberries on Apr 11, 2012 23:44:19 GMT -5
Sounds lacking in the same manner as "Better Than I Know Myself" after one listen to the snippet. Yeah so far not feeling any of these singles, voice sounds great as usual but something is missing. Surely there are better radio friendly songs then this.
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Post by out of reach on Apr 11, 2012 23:46:30 GMT -5
I really don't know why Idols struggle so much with their 2nd releases. I mean, we haven't had a successful sophomore project from an Idol contestant since what, Daughtry? In some ways I think half of the artists who come from Idol would've been better off without Idol. I don't know if I agree with that. Idol has given many mass exposure and helped artists launch careers even if it's not being big pop stars. I don't think Adam Lambert would have a major record deal if it wasn't for idol. As far as second releases go, I think it's mostly due to striking while the iron is hot on the first record. After that unless said artist has a massive hit the people who are not stans kind of move on.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 12, 2012 0:02:56 GMT -5
Of course Idol gives mass exposure, but I think Idol contestants are at a bit of an artistic disadvantage honestly, which is why so many struggle to maintain their popularity. The entire process of going on Idol and releasing an album is so fast that the contestants don't even really find time to figure out what type of artist they want to be, so their record labels throw generic, unmemorable pop songs at them which do well enough to sell some albums but not enough to garner a long-lasting following. Come time for the sophomore album and these artists have no artistic direction and the labels have don't know what to do with them anymore now that most of their fans have moved on to the next hot thing and you have a problem.
Notice how the only Idols who have really been able to maintain a successful career are ones who knew exactly what kind of artist they wanted to be, like Carrie Underwood and Chris Daughtry (and things are looking up for Scotty McCreery thus far too). The exception of course would be Kelly Clarkson, but she had a lot of "first Idol" hype that probably helped her, and she's fought considerably for larger artistic control on her career.
I just think that the entire process of American Idol has a lot of flaws and that's showing with the amount of winners and runner-ups who fade away greatly outnumbering the ones who stick around. That's not to say the show hasn't brought some strong talent to the forefront but at this point it's pretty much running entirely on the fuels of three successful contestants, and as more contestants fail to reach the levels of those three people are starting to lose interest in it as a talent-producing machine.
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Post by out of reach on Apr 12, 2012 0:34:10 GMT -5
I get what your saying but for the most part their track record is not bad when put next a label trying to launch a new artist. It's damn tough to break out in mainstream and even tougher to maintain it.
Let's not forget that it helped Jennifer Hudson, Katherine McPhee, Kellie Pickler and a slew of others that it opened doors for. Sure not huge stars but I still think it was better to be on idol than not.
I don't want to deviate too much as this thread is about Adam.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 12, 2012 0:46:08 GMT -5
Well...I think it's relevant to Adam. He was really hyped as this next huge thing three years ago and now he can barely get a top 50? It's just bizarre to me the way Idols fall off so fast. Though maybe you have a point that this problem isn't exclusive to Idols.
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Post by out of reach on Apr 12, 2012 0:58:10 GMT -5
Well...I think it's relevant to Adam. He was really hyped as this next huge thing three years ago and now he can barely get a top 50? It's just bizarre to me the way Idols fall off so fast. Though maybe you have a point that this problem isn't exclusive to Idols. I think with Adam is that they are still trying to establish him and you can't release mediocrity while getting established. To be honest, I am scratching my head a little. Adam has a solid fanbase, financial support from his label, has A list media status and has the best songwriters in the business writing songs for him. I do think the general public has lost some interest but still, launching this era should have been relatively easy with the momentum he has had. I will wait to form a full opinion on this song once I hear the studio version.
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Post by Rurry on Apr 12, 2012 2:08:42 GMT -5
See, it's just weird because I feel the same way and I felt the same way about several other Idol contestants who fizzled in their second era and I just don't get it. It's like the labels just completely pull support after the first era ends.
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Post by secretchef on Apr 12, 2012 5:48:33 GMT -5
Era should have been relatively easy, but what kind a start is dropping a lead single on Dec 20 and following up with adds a month later. The whole first single rollout was a mess. Did they honestly expect pop spins with that song? They seem to have concentrated some radio effort in the past month. And they are still doing work in the UK. I'm not counting Adam out yet or internationally. Call me cautiously optimistic. Two Queen gigs are are scheduled for July 11th and 12th at the Hammersmith Apollo, That will bring some press. The Queen/Elton gig is rumored to be the closing ceremonies of the European Cup in Kiev. If it's true, it could be televised globally. outside-org.co.uk/2012/04/queen-with-adam-lambert-–-despite-cancelled-sonisphere-uk-concerts-to-go-ahead/Amazon has a short clip of NCOE up www.amazon.com/dp/B007TD92DC/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_D.NHpb141MGKNJimmy Kimmel concert is scheduled for April 26th. It's weird to me, like the era is just now finally getting started. Let's go RCA! Prove you can do something with sophomore releases :) Adam may not be the easiest Idol to sell, but it doesn't seem like they have given up either.
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