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Post by desertfloods on Jun 13, 2012 20:10:56 GMT -5
Just putting this out there but wouldn't Two Black Caddilacs have more 'controversy' with it than this song. With Blown Away the lyrics make it obvious to me that the dad was an abusive father who deserves whatever is coming to him while Two Black Caddilacs makes no mention of whether or not the guy abused either woman just that he cheated (not that I give a lot of sympathy for cheaters). If anything TBC would be the song IMO that would get more people talking about whether the two women were morally just to kill the cheater. Either way I'm proud of Carrie for going against the grain and releasing material that is more than just the typical party, love, or breakup songs that are currently on the country airwaves. She really is taking many more artistic risks which I think in the end will pay off! That's what I feel about Two Black Cadillacs as well. Killing a man just because he cheated? If you question that people might feel the girl in Blown Away should just send the father to rehab, then it's even more obvious in TBC. Just get a divorce, lol!!! The point about these two songs is not about being morally correct or what's the rational thing to do. It's about revenge stories. They are not the right thing to do, just like in BHC as well, but hey, we're all humans with that dark side sometimes wishing for revenge. It's fun to let imagination rule once in a while.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jun 13, 2012 20:29:23 GMT -5
I have tried but this just sounds like a pop song to me. I think Carrie is Carrie and she will get played, but I think this is one of the few Carrie songs to be stopped short of no.1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2012 21:01:37 GMT -5
I think this will be a hit. "Good Girl" was a rocker and got to #1, and this doesn't have as much of an edge--sonically, it's not very 'country' but it still falls under the big power ballad category, and if Lady A and Rascal Flatts can keep taking stuff like "Just A Kiss", "Dancin' Away With My Heart", and "Easy" towards the top of the chart, then I don't think Carrie will have any problems with this.
And I totally agree regarding TBC--I actually think that one has far fewer details than "Blown Away" does. It's still a great song but there's not much to it. The man cheated, and he gets killed, but it never says how the 2 women did it, and it also says that the 2 women first met at the funeral, so you have to assume a lot--either they called each other and worked out some sort of plan, or they probably had a hitman take the guy out...I mean, it wouldn't make sense if just 1 of the women killed him and the other wasn't really in on the plan, right? Then it's just not the same song, if you follow me. So I really feel like TBC is the song that doesn't have much in the way of details. It's a great song but with all of Carrie's comments so far, I think that one will forever be overshadowed by "Blown Away" (the song that gave her chills--long before any of us fans even knew she had recorded it, she was saying stuff like that, and that's saying a lot, since she had a hand in writing TBC but not BA.) I guess they could release TBC right after BA, but I'm sure she'll want to release something more upbeat and not as dark. To me, it was just obvious that it was gonna be BA over TBC or any other song on the album, for that matter.
Both songs are great and both are dark but I don't think either is too dark for country radio. The video for this song also looks like it's gonna be epic. The only thing that I do think could keep it from #1 is if some terrible tornado outbreak happened, especially in Oklahoma, like we have had in recent years (Oklahoma, Arkansas, Alabama, and other states have all been hit really hard in the past few years). I hate to say it but that is possible. Certainly I don't wish for that to happen, and not just because Carrie will have a dark 'tornado-related' song on the chart...you don't ever wish for that to happen.
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Post by sbp17 on Jun 13, 2012 21:16:48 GMT -5
I think this will be an impact single but could possibly be her lowest peak. The Night The Lights In Georgia (#12). Independence Day (#12). Goodbye Earl (#12). Gunpowder & Lead (#7).
All of those were bigger hits than their peak might indicate but to get to the top, you can't sacrifice any spins and the darker, violent subject matter could cause the PDs to have some hesitation in giving this full support.
Having said that, The Thunder Rolls is an exception but then again, that was Garth Brooks.
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Post by jptexas on Jun 13, 2012 21:24:05 GMT -5
I think this will be an impact single but could possibly be her lowest peak. The Night The Lights In Georgia (#12). Independence Day (#12). Goodbye Earl (#12). Gunpowder & Lead (#7). All of those were bigger hits than their peak might indicate but to get to the top, you can't sacrifice any spins and the darker, violent subject matter could cause the PDs to have some hesitation in giving this full support. Having said that, The Thunder Rolls is an exception but then again, that was Garth Brooks.[/b] Yea, and this is Carrie Underwood. It's had almost 200k in sales on itunes, and it's not even being played yet. Another number one for Mrs Fisher.
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Post by sbp17 on Jun 13, 2012 21:32:01 GMT -5
Yea, and this is Carrie Underwood. It's had almost 200k in sales on itunes, and it's not even being played yet. Another number one for Mrs Fisher. This song has had a couple of high profile live performances which are a large contributor to its early sales success. And I can point to countless sales successes that did not translate to radio #1s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2012 22:28:52 GMT -5
The tried and played-out "POP NOT COUNTRY!!!!1!" argument makes me chuckle because it's been upheld for pretty much every Carrie release. Clearly, if it was that big of an issue and radio was offended by the envelope of Country being pushed, then Carrie wouldn't have fifteen #1s to her name.
Let's face it. Is Rascal Flatts' Easy the "Country" that everyone wants? Is Lady Antebellum's "Wanted You More" the "Country" that everyone complains is non-existent today? Is Taylor Swift's "Sparks Fly" the "Country" that some of you try-hards are pleading to have on the airwaves?
No, no, and no, and yet Easy achieved a Top 3 peak, Wanted You More has already built to #29 (and is still rising), and Sparks Fly went #1. Country is changed, and artists (and their labels, of course) can do what they feel is necessary to do to maintain major relevance, achieve hits, and appeal to wide audiences. Carrie and her team are simply playing the game, and playing it brilliantly. Carrie has Country tunes that she's released, and she'll have Country tunes that she'll release in the future. She's using the established radio staple notoriety that she's attained to push the envelope of Country music by releasing songs that are combinations of Country and another genre, and with this song (as with the Rascal Flatts, Lady Antebellum, and Taylor Swift examples I used above), she's continuing to do so, only it's a near-strictly pop song, as were the previous examples in this post.
Sorry, but this argument is just stupid at this point. Country is such a different genre than it was years ago, and I highly doubt that any of the artists or big names in the genre are frowning at that because Country has become, arguably, the biggest genre of any kind of music today, thanks to the acts that keep pushing the boundaries of Country and bringing in more and more fans to the genre (Carrie's a grade-A example of that, as are Taylor and Lady Antebellum). Country fans can keep their "down-home Country stars" (a la George Strait, Alan Jackson, etc.), but clearly they're very, very fond of the Country-pop/rock/AC/etc. acts that are hot in the industry right now. Therefore, saying that this song won't do well because it's too pop is simply foolish.
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Post by jptexas on Jun 13, 2012 22:39:37 GMT -5
Yea, and this is Carrie Underwood. It's had almost 200k in sales on itunes, and it's not even being played yet. Another number one for Mrs Fisher. This song has had a couple of high profile live performances which are a large contributor to its early sales success. And I can point to countless sales successes that did not translate to radio #1s. Ok, I'll agree to disagree. I'm still positive this song will peak at number one. I guess we'll see right around Oct or so.
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Post by desertfloods on Jun 13, 2012 23:08:46 GMT -5
Amazing song review from Taste of Countrytasteofcountry.com/carrie-underwood-blown-away-song/5 stars Excerpt: ...The pre-chorus is four lines of music as good as anything the 29-year-0ld has ever recorded. Josh Kear and Chris Tompkins wrote the song. They also wrote ‘Before He Cheats.’ When it’s said and done both will be amongst the Top 5 Carrie Underwood songs of all time......‘Blown Away’ will rub some the wrong way, but the best songs always do. Underwood needs to be congratulated for throwing safety to the winds of Oklahoma. This song is dangerous, but irresistible.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jun 14, 2012 8:49:07 GMT -5
Is Taylor Swift's "Sparks Fly" the "Country" that some of you try-hards are pleading to have on the airwaves? ... Sorry, but this argument is just stupid at this point. ... Therefore, saying that this song won't do well because it's too pop is simply foolish. I don't think the argument is stupid or foolish or "try-hard"y, and even if it were objectively any of the above, you would be out of line and in violation of Country Forum rules for the name-calling. I'm not sure why you thought that kind of post would be a constructive contribution to conversation. But to address your substantive point, here is why I don't think it is crazy to suggest that there's a possibility that country radio will resist a Carrie single that is too edgy or not country enough. For all the examples one can come up with of singles that have done well at country radio without being particularly country, I think country radio applies different expectations to different artists. I think that Carrie is expected to release music that is generally located in the center of the genre. She may often release country-hyphenate music, but many of her natural vocal stylings (particularly, the cry and the curls in her voice) are country, and that comes through even on a rock song like "Good Girl." Speaking of "Good Girl," it sure looked like country radio was waiting to see if the song would catch on with its most conservative listeners before advancing it into the top-5, didn't it? Happily, the song did catch on and then took advantage of a window to get to #1. The point is, Carrie is an Opry member whose vocal stylings show a real affinity with classic country artists despite some modern rock influences, and though no one is confusing her with Loretta Lynn at the moment, I think she bears the expectations of staying true to the genre a little more heavily than some of the superstars you have named. It is not stupid to think that could come into play here. Reba has sung a variety of country styles in her career, and country radio was willing to take "Turn on the Radio" to #1. But it drew the line at her cover of "If I Were A Boy," which was the next single. Now, my personal view is that "Blown Away" is going to be hard to deny. But I can see the argument that country radio may draw a line, particularly because of the vocal production in the chorus. As with "Good Girl," it will be interesting to see how "Blown Away" tracks with the genre's most musically conservative listeners. Country is such a different genre than it was years ago, and I highly doubt that any of the artists or big names in the genre are frowning at that because Country has become, arguably, the biggest genre of any kind of music today,... You don't think George Strait, Alan Jackson, Randy Travis, Vince Gill, and Lee Ann Womack are frowning over the current direction of the genre? Let me encourage you then, to read this 3 May 2012 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette interview with Vince Gill and this 4 June 2012 Regina Leader-Post interview with Randy Travis, for starters. It would be one thing if country radio were balancing the contemporary and the edgy with the traditional -- I remember arguing even a few years ago that it was. But these days, I'm seeing traditional country being pushed off the airwaves entirely. Let's chalk George Strait and Alan Jackson's slow movement up to radio ageism and the emergence of a new generation of would-be superstars, fine. Why is Chris Young, holder of a streak of five consecutive #1 hits, struggling with his first truly traditional single from his current album? Why is it that Ashton Shepherd and Joe Nichols are now without major label deals? I realize that with Easton Corbin, Greg Bates, and Josh Turner all is not lost for neo-traditional fans (and in Josh's case in particular, single quality has been an issue), but I think the trend away from traditional country on country radio is unmistakable. None of which is to criticize Carrie for pushing the envelope with this particular release -- I believe that Arista Nashville absolutely had to release "Blown Away," especially with early indicators of the response it is getting. I think the song itself is excellent, like nothing else that is out there right now on any mainstream radio format, and I love listening to the cry in Carrie's voice in the verses as well as in the line "'Til there's nothing left standing." I simply disagree with your comment that none of the genre's big names is frowning over the current state of the country genre. And I would like to see Carrie using her position to carve out some more space for countrier country (a third single release of "Wine After Whiskey," for example, would be nice, though I think "Good in Goodbye" may wind up getting the nod instead). Eagerly awaiting the inevitable back and forth when it looks like "Pontoon" may block this song from the top spot...(or maybe "Pontoon" will stay ahead the whole way).
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Post by austin on Jun 14, 2012 9:19:53 GMT -5
Great posts, everyone, and some of you have opened my eyes to the other side of the debate (notably Typo, desertfloods, and Almost Honest . ) I expect this song to be a hit, maybe even a smash, I just see the possibility of some backlash for the content of the song (which all those career defining hits of the other artists mentioned did receive).
We'll see what happens. I don't like the song much at all, but I don't want to see her get bad reaction to it for the story/content.
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Post by layne on Jun 14, 2012 11:17:10 GMT -5
If Pontoon is going to be the Monster hit that is predicted, It should have no problem staying ahead of this "Controversial" song.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Jun 14, 2012 11:38:03 GMT -5
'Blown Away' has more of a country feel to me than 'Good Girl' did. While instrumentation is certainly a part of what makes a song "country," it's not the only part. For me, country music is all about great storytelling, and this song is a great story. The subject matter might be sensitive to some, but I don't think it'll be enough to hurt the song's success. And IMO, some of the best songs have uncomfortable subject matter (Whiskey Lullaby - suicide; Concrete Angel - child abuse; just to name a couple).
I think 'Blown Away' might actually catch on easier than 'Good Girl' did for some. For example, my mother hated 'Good Girl' because she said there was nothing country about it. She loves 'Blown Away,' though.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 14, 2012 11:47:07 GMT -5
^ I agree. I definitely think Blown Away is more country than Good Girl, and while it may not sound it from a production standpoint, the song is pretty straightforward country. And even with its poppier sound, I still prefer that to the rock edge of GG.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 15:51:38 GMT -5
lol.
Anyways, I can see the whole GG/BA argument. Personally, what I feel makes the title track countrier than GG is the storyline. Country music is a genre of storytelling, and even though this song has a very Pop production, I can't see a song with these lyrics fitting into the Pop genre. It's a very intense plotline, which is something that mainstream Pop very rarely ever sees.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 15, 2012 1:14:38 GMT -5
This is an image that was sourced for the song. I added the text to it. I'm sure they'll use the same font as the album titles but I think this looks pretty good.
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Post by dajire4 on Jun 15, 2012 9:10:34 GMT -5
ooh, lovin' that cover. They should really use that font, fits perfectly in
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Post by Marv on Jun 15, 2012 10:38:02 GMT -5
That picture is flat-out phenomenal!
Thanks!
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Jun 15, 2012 10:41:16 GMT -5
that should be the single cover.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 15, 2012 11:21:50 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! That pic was from somewhere, think it is the promo pic for the single or from the video. but the text and placement was all me! :)
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Post by StillTheSame on Jun 15, 2012 12:01:30 GMT -5
That photo is gorgeous!
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Post by justlurkingaround on Jun 15, 2012 16:13:21 GMT -5
My review of Blown Away (the single) if anyone's interesting in reading it.
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Post by Gravity. on Jun 15, 2012 23:02:15 GMT -5
I think this song is brilliant. I love the way it sounds. It may not be the most country sounding song on the record, but it still sounds great. I even really like the processed sounding "There's not enough rain in Oklahoma..." parts.
As for how it'll do on the charts...I'm a little unsure. It could pull an "Independence Day" that peaks in the teens, but still is remembered forever. It could do a "Thunder Rolls" and be a huge chart hit as well. I guess only time will tell. I'm excited to see how it does.
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Post by jptexas on Jun 18, 2012 11:08:14 GMT -5
GG is at number 8 this morning and going down. Is it just me or is Carrie the only one that waits a while before releasing the next single. I could be wrong, maybe others do as well.
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Post by carriekins on Jun 18, 2012 11:14:34 GMT -5
GG is at number 8 this morning and going down. Is it just me or is Carrie the only one that waits a while before releasing the next single. I could be wrong, maybe others do as well. Most artists give the previous single time to go recurrent and move out of the top 5 recurrents before releasing their new singles. Sometimes, an artist will 'rush' a single out (see ZBB's "The Wind") in advance of a new album while the current song is still falling. Waiting can be helpful, though. Chris Young's "You" has been in the top 10 for recurrents frequently, and one could argue his new single "Neon" is suffering as a result. One might make the same argument for Jake Owen's "Alone With You" hindering "The One that Got Away" from starting to take off. GG is definitely falling, and falling quickly, but many stations are already spinning BA, as well. BA will chart before it's "officially" sent to radio, for sure. PS you might want to delete your post on the other thread. :)
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Post by jptexas on Jun 18, 2012 11:33:17 GMT -5
^I already did.
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Post by bluedog6 on Jun 18, 2012 13:22:35 GMT -5
I didn't read through all the posts, but does anyone else think of Bonnie Tyler's "Holding Out for a Hero" when they hear this? Not for content, more for the pace of the song.
I'm not sure I am liking all the distortion that has been added to Carrie's voice. In certain spots it reminds of Brittany Spears. Carrie is too good to have her voice messed with like that.
I do like this song infinitely better than Good Girl. I don't think she yells quite as much or as loud in BA as she does in GG so that is a positive. I'm ok with the subject matter. It will be interesting to see which way this song goes for me once I start hearing it more. Will it grow on me and or will it fade into the background? Hmmmm?
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jun 18, 2012 16:35:10 GMT -5
Debuts at #58 this week on Billboard
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Post by Mack on Jun 18, 2012 16:50:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure I am liking all the distortion that has been added to Carrie's voice. In certain spots it reminds of Brittany Spears. Carrie is too good to have her voice messed with like that. Who's Brittany Spears? ??? If you mean Britney Spears, then no, Carrie sounds nothing like her on this track, even with the vocal distortion. Also, that effect was clearly used for aesthetic purposes, not because Carrie *needs* it.
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Post by bluedog6 on Jun 18, 2012 19:01:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure I am liking all the distortion that has been added to Carrie's voice. In certain spots it reminds of Brittany Spears. Carrie is too good to have her voice messed with like that. Who's Brittany Spears? ??? If you mean Britney Spears, then no, Carrie sounds nothing like her on this track, even with the vocal distortion. Also, that effect was clearly used for aesthetic purposes, not because Carrie *needs* it. Hahahaha! Spelling, my bad. Carrie for sure doesn't need it like whatever her name is. The point is that I don't like it and prefer a much more natural sounding voice. It is not aesthetically pleasing to me anyway.
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