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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 14, 2013 10:34:45 GMT -5
The unnerving fact in all of this (not to be a wet blanket when Robin is riding high off the song of the summer/signature song) is that, even with Blurred Lines being the runaway smash that it has been, the album could STILL underperform. I know Robin is pleased that the song has done so well, but I'm sure he would like to be awarded a platinum plaque for all his hustle. It wouldn't surprise me if this album scrapes gold, over all, unless Give It To You REALLY connects.
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 14, 2013 14:52:34 GMT -5
The fact he outsold Love After War in two weeks makes the album a success in my book. Platinum would be nice but Gold is more feasible; all he needs to sell is 450k to have the second best-selling album of his career.
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Post by slw84 on Aug 14, 2013 18:57:45 GMT -5
The fact he outsold Love After War in two weeks makes the album a success in my book. Platinum would be nice but Gold is more feasible; all he needs to sell is 450k to have the second best-selling album of his career. I agree. But I think that he needs 3 solid hits and good promo to get to platinum. Gold is for sure with thanksgiving sales and xmas sales. I think that if give it to u is half the success of blurred lines...heck, even 1/4 of the success then it will lead him to get a 3rd, 4th and 5th single considering he probably will have at least one sent to urban AC. Hopefully, it's rest of my life (urban ac)/give it to you to all other formats. I can go either way with Ooh la la and Pressure being singles in the spring or summer. I just need a tour performance of Top of the world if it doesn't become a single.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 22:25:46 GMT -5
Robin Thicke Sues to Protect 'Blurred Lines' from Marvin Gaye's FamilyIn order to shield "Blurred Lines," the hottest hit of the summer, Robin Thicke, Pharrell Williams and Clifford Harris, Jr. are going to court. A lawsuit was filed Thursday in California federal court by the trio against Marvin Gaye's family and Bridgeport Music, which owns some of Funkadelic's compositions. At issue are complaints about similarities between "Blurred Lines" and at least two songs. According to the suit, a copy of which was obtained by The Hollywood Reporter, "Plaintiffs, who have the utmost respect for and admiration of Marvin Gaye, Funkadelic and their musical legacies, reluctantly file this action in the face of multiple adverse claims from alleged successors in interest to those artists. Defendants continue to insist that plaintiffs' massively successful composition, 'Blurred Lines,' copies 'their' compositions." Read the lawsuit here. The suit claims the Gaye family is alleging that "Blurred Lines" and Gaye's "Got to Give It Up" "feel" or "sound" the same, and that the "Gaye defendants are claiming ownership of an entire genre, as opposed to a specific work." As for Funkadelic, there's said to be claimed similarity between Thicke's hit and Funakedlic's "Sexy Ways." "But there are no similarities between plaintiffs' composition and those the claimants allege they own, other than commonplace musical elements," states the lawsuit. "Plaintiffs created a hit and did it without copying anyone else's composition." A New York TImes critic has noted that "Blurred Lines" is "influenced heavily" by Gaye’s “Got to Give It Up,” but the lawsuit makes the point that "being reminiscent of a 'sound' is not copyright infringement. The intent in producing 'Blurred Lines' was to evoke an era." The Gayes and Bridgeport are said to be threatening litigation should the plaintiffs not pay a monetary settlement. Rather than wait for such a lawsuit to proceed, the plaintiffs are going to court to determine the parties' respective rights and obligations. In seeking a judgment, Thicke, Williams and Harris Jr. are not only looking for a declaration that their song doesn't violate the defendants' rights by copying their songs, but also that the "Gayes do not have an interest in the copyright to the composition 'Got To Give It Up' sufficient to confer standing on them to pursue claims of infringement of that composition." The plaintiffs are represented by Howard King and Stephen Rothschild of King, Holmes, Paterno & Berliner. THR has reached out to the defendants for comment and update with a response. www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/5657606/robin-thicke-sues-to-protect-blurred-lines-from-marvin-gayes-family
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Post by colson on Aug 15, 2013 23:57:49 GMT -5
^That's funny. There's no question that BL is a rip off Got To Give It Up. I mean you have to be tone deaf to not hear it.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 16, 2013 8:59:19 GMT -5
LOL. I said this from the moment I heard the song. I'm pretty sure I even said it in this thread. I assumed it was a sample and was surprised to find out that it wasn't. I also think the "OOOOH!" is a sample of Michael Jackson from "Don't Stop Til' You Get Enough". I expect some backlash now that he is suing the Gaye family. I don't think a lawsuit is really necessary. He probably should have just waited to see if they would sue and then countersue, if he REALLY felt the need.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 10:03:33 GMT -5
Imagine if this were Katy Perry suing Sara Bareilles. How come Pulse isn't up in arms over this? ;)
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 16, 2013 14:37:06 GMT -5
Let Robin live and be great!
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Post by Evergreen on Aug 16, 2013 19:36:57 GMT -5
You can't copyright an entire genre. It may be in the exact same style and sound very similar, but it isn't a sample. Marvin's family should have been more worried about him when he was alive.....
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 16, 2013 22:12:40 GMT -5
I'm confident if Blurred Lines had peaked at #99 and faded into oblivion, this would be a non-issue.
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Post by B****BetterGetNOSL333P on Aug 17, 2013 12:41:20 GMT -5
I'm confident if Blurred Lines had peaked at #99 and faded into oblivion, this would be a non-issue.
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Post by Jack on Aug 17, 2013 13:29:09 GMT -5
I'm confident if Blurred Lines had peaked at #99 and faded into oblivion, this would be a non-issue. There's a like button...
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Post by starr on Aug 22, 2013 3:47:18 GMT -5
Check out the comment section for this video of Justin Timberlake performing a cover of "Got To Give It Up." Some fan actually thinks that Justin copied Robin's "Blurred Lines!" ROTFLOL! :)
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 22, 2013 11:48:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 13:40:14 GMT -5
Marvin Gaye's Family Rejected Robin Thicke's Six-Figure OfferBillboard has learned that Robin Thicke’s team offered a six-figure sum to members of Marvin Gaye family in order to preempt a copyright infringement showdown, but the family turned it down. According to sources knowledgeable with the lawsuit, the settlement offer came after Frankie Christian Gaye, Marvin Gaye III and Nona Marvisa Gaye accused Thicke's "Blurred Lines" hit single of plagiarizing "Got To Give it Up," written and composed by Marvin Gaye, who died in 1984. Subsequently, Thicke, along with "Blurred Lines" co-writers Pharrell Williams and Clifford Harris, Jr., filed a lawsuit on Aug. 15 in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles requesting a ruling that "Blurred Lines" does not infringe on "Got To Give It Up." It also requested a similar judgement with regard to another accusation, by Bridgeport Music Inc., that "Blurred Lines" infringed on George Clinton's "Sexy Ways." Bridgeport and the Gaye family's attorney, Richard Busch, did not return calls requesting comment. Thicke's law firm, King, Holmes, Paterno & Berliner, declined to comment. In an interview with TMZ, Gaye's son, Marvin Gaye III said, "We’re not happy with the way that he went about doing business let alone suing us for something where he clearly got his inspiration from at the least." During an interview with GQ magazine in May about his career and the making of "Blurred Lines," Thicke said, "one of my favorite songs of all time was Marvin Gaye's 'Got to Give It Up.' I was like, 'Damn, we should make something like that, something with that groove.' Then he started playing a little something and we literally wrote the song in about a half hour and recorded it. The whole thing was done in a couple hours." Thicke's lawsuit said the "intent in producing 'Blurred Lines' was to evoke an era. In reality, the Gaye defendants are claiming ownership of an entire genre.... The reality is that the songs themselves are starkly different." The question remains, how different are they? Which may be up to a judge to decide. www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/5672484/marvin-gayes-family-rejected-robin-thickes-six-figure-offer-exclusive
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Post by #LisaRinna on Aug 23, 2013 17:43:01 GMT -5
Marvin's estate is looking thirsty as hell. Why didn't they sue over 'Love After War' being influenced by 'After The Dance'? Or 'Adorn' referencing 'Sexual Healing'?
Of course it's convenient for them, 'Blurred Lines' is an international smash. Robin's always been influenced by Marvin's music, he's a huge fan.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 23, 2013 19:26:16 GMT -5
Marvin's estate is looking thirsty as hell. Why didn't they sue over 'Love After War' being influenced by 'After The Dance'? Or 'Adorn' referencing 'Sexual Healing'? Of course it's convenient for them, 'Blurred Lines' is an international smash. Robin's always been influenced by Marvin's music, he's a huge fan. You are so right about Adorn. It's the almost the exact melody. Only issue is it wasn't #1 on the Hot 100 for umpteenth weeks.
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Post by freespirit on Aug 23, 2013 21:10:18 GMT -5
It's amazing how everyone is dragging Robin Thicke through the mud about this lawsuit, but Marvin Gaye's Estate fired the first shot by demanding payment or they would file a lawsuit. Robin Thicke, Pharrell and T.I. decided to go ahead and file a preemptive lawsuit which allows a court of law to decide whether or not they sampled "Got To Give It Up." The Gaye family does not even own the songs or publishing rights to any of Marvin Gaye's music; EMI/Jobete Publishing owns all of his songs, but their name is nowhere on this lawsuit and they have not file one separately. If "Blurred Lines" was not a huge hit, there would be no lawsuit.
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Post by B****BetterGetNOSL333P on Aug 24, 2013 21:07:07 GMT -5
I hope they can put out the NON-2Chaniz video, 'cause his so called rap SUCKS big time and totally ruined the video.
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Post by harry on Aug 25, 2013 3:27:21 GMT -5
They should've just officially sampled it on the credits for clearance reasons before the song came out anyway. The similarities are undeniable. Lily Allen did it with 'Who'd Have Known' and Take That and it saved a whole lot of drama.
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Post by SuperTrouper on Aug 25, 2013 3:37:05 GMT -5
"Give It 2 Me" (Madonna) was very similar to "Got to Give It Up" as well. The bass line is almost identical. Of course probably very few people in the US heard that song
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 25, 2013 13:02:14 GMT -5
Marques Houston's new single blatantly incorporates elements of Let's Get It On and Marvin's name is nowhere to be found in the credits. I wonder if his family go after him next.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 13:15:16 GMT -5
Let's be real here. Obviously success increases the likelihood that his family would sue. If nobody's heard the song, his family may not have heard it either. Plus it's a waste of time and money to sue someone for royalties when their rip-off song is generating such little revenue to begin with. This, like a lot of copyright infringement lawsuits, is all about getting a piece of the royalties, not about the principle of artistic integrity. "Blurred Lines" has been drawing heavy comparisons to "Got To Give It Up" since the moment it came out, and Robin himself said that "Blurred Lines" was heavily influenced by it. So while Marvin's family may be money hungry or whatever, I don't think they're reaching by claiming the song infringes without giving due credit.
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Post by bigb0882 on Aug 25, 2013 16:52:47 GMT -5
I don't think it is a sample. It is just heavily influenced but all music is influenced by something. The Gaye family can't claim ownership of an entire genre.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 17:02:05 GMT -5
I don't think it is a sample. It is just heavily influenced but all music is influenced by something. The Gaye family can't claim ownership of an entire genre. That would be like if they claimed "Blurred Lines" sounded like "Sexual Healing". That's not what they're doing. Critics and bloggers were pointing out the similarities from day one. Are they similar enough for the Gayes to win? I guess we'll see if it ends up going to court. It's obviously not that they're claiming they own the entire R&B genre though. Otherwise there are plenty of other massive R&B hits to come out in the past 30 years that they could have sued over too.
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Post by bigb0882 on Aug 25, 2013 21:18:11 GMT -5
But sampling is not the same as "sound similar to" Sampling is taking something directly from another song. Blurred Lines hasn't done that, IMO.
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Post by B****BetterGetNOSL333P on Aug 25, 2013 22:46:58 GMT -5
Give It 2 U was way too short on VMAs.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 26, 2013 7:58:34 GMT -5
Robin just oozes sex on stage. He does no wrong.
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 26, 2013 13:11:39 GMT -5
But sampling is not the same as "sound similar to" Sampling is taking something directly from another song. Blurred Lines hasn't done that, IMO. My feelings exactly. I'm certain if they did directly sample GTGIU that Marvin would've been credited. When he sampled Al Green, he gave credited accordingly.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Aug 26, 2013 16:56:45 GMT -5
It's obviously not that they're claiming they own the entire R&B genre though. Otherwise there are plenty of other massive R&B hits to come out in the past 30 years that they could have sued over too. But that is what their lawsuit is about, according to that Billboard article.
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